OP gives us 3 polls where we can vote from a number of well-established (not to say beaten to death) options.
Thread-title should therefore be: "An old MMO-copy is born here!".
Lol yes maybe it should, but thats not the point of the polls. The point of the threads are to get people thinking and suggestions other than what is listed. Which is what people are doing.
I dont like how the OP seems to be handling this poll at all...
Constant disregard to specific genres, mixing in first person shooter/third person shooter in the list...
Ok I mean seriously...You can make a first person fantasy game (elder scrolls) a first person post apocalyptic game (fallen earth o.O) a third person sci fi (global agenda, firefall, s4 league) and things like that...
Cyberpunk = matrix, Star Ocean Till the end of time (Even if its highly mixed with fantasy), Ghost in the shell series, Deus Ex, Half Life 2, Shin Megami Tensei
"If you don't know what cyberpunk is, it's basically a set of common themes and styles that usually involves dystopian futures, grim urban settings, totalitarian regimes, hacking and/or aliens and guys in shades and black trench coats."
Steampunk = Full metal alchemist, arcanum, Final fantasy 9(I think..Its been ages since I played), Wild Arms games, Final fantasy 6, Dark Cloud 2, Legend of Mana for the ps1,
You dont have to describe them..You dont see rift ads saying its a fantasy game o.O It says "Were not in azeroth anymore"
So I dont see a problem that the OP is seeing o.O
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Also Im not sure if you noticed but Warcraft and World of Warcraft is steampunk ish(very little but its still in there!). They just decided to focus on the more fantasy side o.O Srsly...Whats the problem with something having a more steampunk art style and setting? Or cyberpunk for that matter?
Better yet if you want a better description of steampunk, I remember the goblin and gnome outpost in TBC were very steampunk. I expect the goblin starting zone to be very steampunk as well. Umm...So is that goblin (i think they were goblins) place in the thousand needles o.O
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You dont have to use the word steampunk on the ads srsly. 90% of these just show trailers and things like that not with a huge sign "The world of Steampunkcraft" o.O
The red pill thing was him saying that The Matrix = cyberpunk btw o.o
How many people know that FMA is a steampunk world? Not a lot o.O but do they like the story and the setting? maybe they do maybe they dont o.O Srsly...Now Im getting confused since I didnt really read the OP and I assumed he meant the setting of the game o.O
I am pretty sure that I never said I didnt know what steam/cyber/everything else punk types of games are. I am simply saying that companies to not market them as that for a reason. And yes Rift is labeled as a Fantasy game. See links below.
The Lineage II Olympiad system is a good thing i guess. Its so cool one hero of each class, with unique items, unique crown and skill and that aura.. its so amazing:
Personally I'd like to see about 3 of those listed combined, and I think you could combine more with a good story and implementation.
Specifically, I'd like to see Fantasy, Medieval Fantasy, Vampires and Werewolves. I've spent countless hours thinking about what I'd do if I had a team to make an MMO I'd be proud of, but it'd be too much to type here and I think it'd make too many arguments with the userbase here. I wouldn't mind discussing it with you in PMs if you wish.
I voted Sci Fi, since there's such a lack of the genre in MMOs. Obviously, I was torn between Sci Fi and Futuristic, but the latter conjours more of an EVE image from your description and I'd prefer an avatar game, rather than one where you're a ship.
Also, a good martial arts game would is also sorely missed. I still think 9Dragons is the best of the bunch, and that's aged quite substantially.
As many have stated, though, I don't really care about the genre as much as not getting in and 10 minutes later thinking "Oh Lord, I just CAN'T go through all this AGAIN!".
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If a mmo is born here, would sound like my plan would work. I have a lengthy couple text documents on the MMO that I wanted to create, however lacking the coding abilities and what not, it's just a couple of documents. I have two MMO's one being a cliche Fantasy game and another being a next gen sci-fi game. I was eventually going to write a lore but its pretty much in my head and not on file but i do have some notes. Couple of my friends said I should pitch the idea to a company, but I doubt I would see anything back.
I cast my vote for dieselpunk and/or atomicpunk, a subgenre in the sci-fi category. Love the aesthetic and it isn't known well enough to become cliche yet.
Agreed! Steampunk or as this man said Dieselpunk... what ever that may be haha!
I voted for Sci-Fi, but really the most important thing is to make a design where the mechanics mesh well with the theme. As long as you do that...almost any theme should do fine.
For example: If you are going to do something modern/futuristic that involves lots of gun-play you probably want something that supports combat distances significantly longer then 30 meters, involves some sort of aiming mechanic (rather then the typical tab targeting) and you probably want to avoid the Holy Trinity....as those (IMO) don't really mesh very well the type of combat represented by modern fire-arms.
If you're using an engine that can't support those sort of things...then you may want t consider a theme that mesh's well with what your engine can support. (IMO) That's one of the biggest mistakes MMO's make....a lack of consistancy in mechanics with the genre they are trying to cover.
I agree with you. Taking on too much and more then what can be handled is failure 101. What we are doing is getting ideas from gamers to build upon this project. We want people thinking and thinking differently from what has been the cookie cutter of MMO's. Everyone things that WoW and DAoC and UO are the standard for an MMO, (there are more obviously but those are the most popular mentions) and they really arent. Those are just one style of MMO gaming that is possible. We want to explore the other possibilities.
Honestly, what I'd love to see is an MMO that could capture the style of play that Mount & Blade: Warbands does as a SPRPG.... where you have multiple level of play captured in a single game experience.... You have FPS style combat where you are controling your individual character in a fight. You have a tactical layer bolted on top of that where you are giving battlefield orders to groups of troops that you command, you have a strategic/empire building level where you take control of fiefs, etc and the things you as a player do have a real effect on the game world. On top of that you have RP storylines that you follow and participate in and influence.... AND you have your standard achiever type gaming where you are building up your individual characters skills, equipment, reputation, etc.
I'm not certain how feasable that would be to impliment in an MMO environment....but pulling something like that off...almost regardless of genre would really make me drool as a gamer.
The line you quoted was in the FAQ as well. which I think people barely read? People look at rift and go "Ohh it looks fantasy" Whether you flat out say it or educate the players or not theyll go with what the world is like or they wont even name it w/e o.O
Remember that these (fantasy, sci fi, steampunk,dieselpunk, historical, etc) are all settings. Whether its fantasy or not you end up explaining hte basic working on the world which you can do in one paragraph or a small clip of your games locations o.O
Itll greatly affect art style and the world but its the same with Fantasy. Do you want it dark fantasy? Will it be using myths? Will it be the usual goblins gnolls, etc? Will it be a bright happy fantasy? Or will you basically just copy off WoW, Rift, etc? Will it be in a slightly more modern time? Or medieval style stuff? Or even earlier? etc etc...
With us saying "Cyberpunk!!" Or "Steampunk!!!" or "Dieselpunk!!!" That means were giving you a very very specific type of worlds and themes. That doesnt mean you have to flat out say that to the actual consumers. It just means that by saying that,we let you know a lot about how the world and the setting is. Becaue its quite specific on how the world is.
But judging by the way youre treating it all Im expecting that the company really has no idea on what it does and it just wants a quick buck and doesnt really care much about the actual IP that youre trying to possibly create. Or youre just trolling o.o
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I guess my version of steampunk which may completely innacurate was more of like Tri-Gun's world (If you are familiar with the show/comic/manga)...I won't go into details though.
That aside...whatever you do...What Ever You Do, do NOT make it 1 side vs 1 side. Pleease do not do this. There is way to many "Good vs Evil" games. Give me 3 sides, or give me the ability to make my own towns. 1 side versus 1 side is just way too overplayed (And kinda the "easy way out") Get creative, show me something new and cool!
I don't even mind quests so much, or instanced dungeons (though would prefer a variaty of instanced and non-instanced dungeons) but please, do NOT make another 1v1 game.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
I guess my version of steampunk which may completely innacurate was more of like Tri-Gun's world (If you are familiar with the show/comic/manga)...I won't go into details though. That aside...whatever you do...What Ever You Do, do NOT make it 1 side vs 1 side. Pleease do not do this. There is way to many "Good vs Evil" games. Give me 3 sides, or give me the ability to make my own towns. 1 side versus 1 side is just way too overplayed (And kinda the "easy way out") Get creative, show me something new and cool! I don't even mind quests so much, or instanced dungeons (though would prefer a variaty of instanced and non-instanced dungeons) but please, do NOT make another 1v1 game.
ive never seen trigun so i cant comment. It may have steampunk elements though o.o the only thing about it i that i saw was tht the guy wore a red trenchcoat and had a gun lol. But yah 3 major sides would be best!
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I want to see a universe where you can fly ships through space (not a mini-game) and walk in space ports and in the open world on land.
I have a feeling that the quick dismissal of cyperpunk genre games being not feasible or related to "skateboarder goths" is code for "stay-at-home moms, rednecks and retirees won't buy it, and we just want to sell copies more copies than WoW to the broadest, most non-informed audience we can find at the expense of a truly unique and engaging gaming experience".
And here I thought this was an idea thread to create a great game, and not a money-grabbing commercial endeavor which eventually features commercials with Mr. T and Ozzy Osborne.
Also theres no need to call it flatly "Cyberpunk" in most major ads o.O You can sell it as a futuristic world or something similar yknoe?
Also...The futuristic world where you can fly ships and land on stations :P SWG!!! lawl
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Cyberpunk-ness didnt stop the matrix from being a success o.o
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Call it something other than cyber punk. The words cyber punk are not marketable to people other than those that avoid marketing. They more than likely block advertisement in there browser, and avoid sites they feel are just marketing tools. Are you going to market the game virally for the company?
I have no idea, thats just the first thought that pops into my head when i hear cyber punk. I couldnt even tell you what cyber punk is honestly. Nor do I care to find out. But i would play a good game regardless. I may hesitate buying anything called cyber punk, it just sounds like its trying to be something, when its just another wow clone anyway:) J/J
Themes are getting boring anyway. Just imagine something and go. It is what it turns out to be. It's a great year for imagining things.
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Thats what Ive been saying the whole time. The subgenre is called cyber punk but you dont have to use that to market it. Call it sci fi because it IS a subgenre of sci if. Now the whole problem was with the guy who was asking for a setting so people gave a descriptive name for it.
Just like when people say "Dark fantasy" or "Mythic Fantasy" or "Magic Realism" Or "Paranormal Fantasy" Or "Science fantasy" , "Alternative Universe", "Hard Sci Fi", "Soft Sci fi", etc etc.
Secret World? Science fantasy, alternative universe, dark fantasy.
Warcraft? Fantasy, Steampunk ( goblins and gnomes), etc etc
Do you see people calling FMA a steampunk in mainstream? Do you see everyday people calling the matrix a cyberpunk? probably not. But you dont have to use that name to describe the game especially when selling it to people who dont know.
-.- Were using those terms because thats a way we can use to get our thoughts of it through. If anyone were interested on what it actually means they can google it o.O
Also its a setting o.O Im really confused now because Ive been saying that over and over.
Also if you watched matrix....ill say it again o.O Thats a cyberpunk setting o.O
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you dont have to market it as cyberpunk!!! Call it a sci fi, a world where so and so happens ugh -.-
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Very sorry i can't vote because i really don't have a preference,i just like well thought out games that show some depth behind every idea.I guess if i had any preference,i would leave sci fi out,not because i don't like it,i just know how much work and effort it takes to make a good game in the sci fi genre,example i find Eve to be about a 2/10,no where near the effort needed to be a complete game.
If your developing studio thinks it can handle a sci-fi then go for it,all the power to you guys.
Opinion/suggestion......
Maybe a poll to ask if we like a browser based game or not,because knowing the current trends,i get a sneaky suspicion of browser based here.Or a poll related to the "type" of model you plan on using.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If you are indeed...a company developer of some sort that plan to make a next gen mmorpg i think you should really take under consideration this.
Just in case it will be a medieval fantasy mmoRPG i would suggest to you if u never have done it before you start proggraming codes for the game to install to your computer and play for at least 2 weeks the following games . Mount and blade Warband and oblivion.
Play them carefully observe the combat system,learn from them, see what elements you could take from them and combine them in your game.
Next gen u said? Well since we ve seen so far all the rest mmorpgs ,the one whats missing from the market and hundrends of thousand sof ppl are askign for it , is to see at last a realistic combat system in a well made medieval fantasy world.
tera gw2 are towards action direction but i think they are trying to impress mostly youngsters with flipjumps backwards 20 meters? rolling and jumping around aka frogs? sorry but compared to oblivion or mount and balde warbans they r both kids stuff.
So want to make a revolutionary mmorpg next gen? try realistic looking gameplay. Ppl will love it.
Just in case it will be a medieval fantasy mmoRPG i would suggest to you if u never have done it before you start proggraming codes for the game to install to your computer and play for at least 2 weeks the following games . Mount and blade Warband and oblivion.
Play them carefully observe the combat system,learn from them, see what elements you could take from them and combine them in your game.
Agreed. But they should also try out a little pen and paper RPGs, like Palladium, Runequest and Warhammer fantasy RPG (not D&D).
And go down to the local ARMA and talk a little with guys that actually know how to use a weapon and have real knowledge about weapons and armor (if nothing else can you find someone for the motion suit there).
Just playing other computer games for ideas isn't good. A few back to basics helps.
MMOs and single player RPGs are based on pen and paper RPGs. P&P RPGs are based on fantasy books that are based on medeivel Europe and actual battles. Knowledge of those things will give you ideas that havn't been used a zillion times.
What do Meridian 59, UO and Everquest have in common? They were made by pen and paper RPG players in an attempt to recreate the wonders of roleplaying to a computer, To make a good game you need to have more knowledge than just abou Wow.
I put my vote in for Sci-Fi mainly because Fantasy is so burned out. I think horror/vampires appeals to some but you limit the amount of people who are interested as some don't care for those genres much.
Thats what Ive been saying the whole time. The subgenre is called cyber punk but you dont have to use that to market it. Call it sci fi because it IS a subgenre of sci if. Now the whole problem was with the guy who was asking for a setting so people gave a descriptive name for it.
Just like when people say "Dark fantasy" or "Mythic Fantasy" or "Magic Realism" Or "Paranormal Fantasy" Or "Science fantasy" , "Alternative Universe", "Hard Sci Fi", "Soft Sci fi", etc etc.
Secret World? Science fantasy, alternative universe, dark fantasy.
Warcraft? Fantasy, Steampunk ( goblins and gnomes), etc etc
Do you see people calling FMA a steampunk in mainstream? Do you see everyday people calling the matrix a cyberpunk? probably not. But you dont have to use that name to describe the game especially when selling it to people who dont know.
-.- Were using those terms because thats a way we can use to get our thoughts of it through. If anyone were interested on what it actually means they can google it o.O
Also its a setting o.O Im really confused now because Ive been saying that over and over.
Also if you watched matrix....ill say it again o.O Thats a cyberpunk setting o.O
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you dont have to market it as cyberpunk!!! Call it a sci fi, a world where so and so happens ugh -.-
I wasnt in the least saying that making a cyber/steam/whatever punk game is out of the question. The original confliction was that companies cannot market a game that is labeled as cyber/steam/whatever punk. Which I see you understand here. That was the original argument though. I never said that we wouldnt do a cyberpunk game because people wouldnt know what it was. Simply stated that we wouldnt call it that and thats why its not on the poll.
Actually you flat out said that they are not valid themes o.O
Since the last 3-4 posts ive always tried to explain the genre and that you dont have to call it that o.O
I still think that these polls should be redone
Edit : just in case it was forgotten, i think these polls should be redone to give more insight into the setting and moving the fps/tps option out of the poll. Or just forget this poll and askfor the permission To use the info on the other poll
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Lol yes maybe it should, but thats not the point of the polls. The point of the threads are to get people thinking and suggestions other than what is listed. Which is what people are doing.
That's a strange way to get people to talk about MMO innovations, but if it really works, more power to you.
I am pretty sure that I never said I didnt know what steam/cyber/everything else punk types of games are. I am simply saying that companies to not market them as that for a reason. And yes Rift is labeled as a Fantasy game. See links below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rift_(video_game)
http://www.riftgame.com/en/game/faq.php
Question 2 on their own website says this, "Yes, RIFT is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in a unique fantasy world."
Its the simple things in life that get peoples minds working. The easier and more controversail it is, the more they think and ideas spark
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The Lineage II Olympiad system is a good thing i guess. Its so cool one hero of each class, with unique items, unique crown and skill and that aura.. its so amazing:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dz6Z7ZZE_x4/STXSvzGEmpI/AAAAAAAAAiI/IyBPsIas2xw/s400/39.jpg
OBS: bad english, i know.
Since cyber punk was not on the list I voted for scifi. My ideal game will have....
-deep crafting system that is relivant to the economy
-no levels or classes
-avatars that are not spaceships
-cognatively chalenging
-dynamic story line
-no theme parks
-no rails
someone pinch me im dreaming again.
Personally I'd like to see about 3 of those listed combined, and I think you could combine more with a good story and implementation.
Specifically, I'd like to see Fantasy, Medieval Fantasy, Vampires and Werewolves. I've spent countless hours thinking about what I'd do if I had a team to make an MMO I'd be proud of, but it'd be too much to type here and I think it'd make too many arguments with the userbase here. I wouldn't mind discussing it with you in PMs if you wish.
I voted Sci Fi, since there's such a lack of the genre in MMOs. Obviously, I was torn between Sci Fi and Futuristic, but the latter conjours more of an EVE image from your description and I'd prefer an avatar game, rather than one where you're a ship.
Also, a good martial arts game would is also sorely missed. I still think 9Dragons is the best of the bunch, and that's aged quite substantially.
As many have stated, though, I don't really care about the genre as much as not getting in and 10 minutes later thinking "Oh Lord, I just CAN'T go through all this AGAIN!".
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If a mmo is born here, would sound like my plan would work. I have a lengthy couple text documents on the MMO that I wanted to create, however lacking the coding abilities and what not, it's just a couple of documents. I have two MMO's one being a cliche Fantasy game and another being a next gen sci-fi game. I was eventually going to write a lore but its pretty much in my head and not on file but i do have some notes. Couple of my friends said I should pitch the idea to a company, but I doubt I would see anything back.
Agreed! Steampunk or as this man said Dieselpunk... what ever that may be haha!
Honestly, what I'd love to see is an MMO that could capture the style of play that Mount & Blade: Warbands does as a SPRPG.... where you have multiple level of play captured in a single game experience.... You have FPS style combat where you are controling your individual character in a fight. You have a tactical layer bolted on top of that where you are giving battlefield orders to groups of troops that you command, you have a strategic/empire building level where you take control of fiefs, etc and the things you as a player do have a real effect on the game world. On top of that you have RP storylines that you follow and participate in and influence.... AND you have your standard achiever type gaming where you are building up your individual characters skills, equipment, reputation, etc.
I'm not certain how feasable that would be to impliment in an MMO environment....but pulling something like that off...almost regardless of genre would really make me drool as a gamer.
The line you quoted was in the FAQ as well. which I think people barely read? People look at rift and go "Ohh it looks fantasy" Whether you flat out say it or educate the players or not theyll go with what the world is like or they wont even name it w/e o.O
Remember that these (fantasy, sci fi, steampunk,dieselpunk, historical, etc) are all settings. Whether its fantasy or not you end up explaining hte basic working on the world which you can do in one paragraph or a small clip of your games locations o.O
Itll greatly affect art style and the world but its the same with Fantasy. Do you want it dark fantasy? Will it be using myths? Will it be the usual goblins gnolls, etc? Will it be a bright happy fantasy? Or will you basically just copy off WoW, Rift, etc? Will it be in a slightly more modern time? Or medieval style stuff? Or even earlier? etc etc...
With us saying "Cyberpunk!!" Or "Steampunk!!!" or "Dieselpunk!!!" That means were giving you a very very specific type of worlds and themes. That doesnt mean you have to flat out say that to the actual consumers. It just means that by saying that,we let you know a lot about how the world and the setting is. Becaue its quite specific on how the world is.
But judging by the way youre treating it all Im expecting that the company really has no idea on what it does and it just wants a quick buck and doesnt really care much about the actual IP that youre trying to possibly create. Or youre just trolling o.o
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Im for vampiers and werewolfs or horror !
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I guess my version of steampunk which may completely innacurate was more of like Tri-Gun's world (If you are familiar with the show/comic/manga)...I won't go into details though.
That aside...whatever you do...What Ever You Do, do NOT make it 1 side vs 1 side. Pleease do not do this. There is way to many "Good vs Evil" games. Give me 3 sides, or give me the ability to make my own towns. 1 side versus 1 side is just way too overplayed (And kinda the "easy way out") Get creative, show me something new and cool!
I don't even mind quests so much, or instanced dungeons (though would prefer a variaty of instanced and non-instanced dungeons) but please, do NOT make another 1v1 game.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
ive never seen trigun so i cant comment. It may have steampunk elements though o.o the only thing about it i that i saw was tht the guy wore a red trenchcoat and had a gun lol. But yah 3 major sides would be best!
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I voted sci-fi as well.
I want to see a universe where you can fly ships through space (not a mini-game) and walk in space ports and in the open world on land.
I have a feeling that the quick dismissal of cyperpunk genre games being not feasible or related to "skateboarder goths" is code for "stay-at-home moms, rednecks and retirees won't buy it, and we just want to sell copies more copies than WoW to the broadest, most non-informed audience we can find at the expense of a truly unique and engaging gaming experience".
And here I thought this was an idea thread to create a great game, and not a money-grabbing commercial endeavor which eventually features commercials with Mr. T and Ozzy Osborne.
Also theres no need to call it flatly "Cyberpunk" in most major ads o.O You can sell it as a futuristic world or something similar yknoe?
Also...The futuristic world where you can fly ships and land on stations :P SWG!!! lawl
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Cyberpunk-ness didnt stop the matrix from being a success o.o
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Call it something other than cyber punk. The words cyber punk are not marketable to people other than those that avoid marketing. They more than likely block advertisement in there browser, and avoid sites they feel are just marketing tools. Are you going to market the game virally for the company?
I have no idea, thats just the first thought that pops into my head when i hear cyber punk. I couldnt even tell you what cyber punk is honestly. Nor do I care to find out. But i would play a good game regardless. I may hesitate buying anything called cyber punk, it just sounds like its trying to be something, when its just another wow clone anyway:) J/J
Themes are getting boring anyway. Just imagine something and go. It is what it turns out to be. It's a great year for imagining things.
See you in the dream..
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Thats what Ive been saying the whole time. The subgenre is called cyber punk but you dont have to use that to market it. Call it sci fi because it IS a subgenre of sci if. Now the whole problem was with the guy who was asking for a setting so people gave a descriptive name for it.
Just like when people say "Dark fantasy" or "Mythic Fantasy" or "Magic Realism" Or "Paranormal Fantasy" Or "Science fantasy" , "Alternative Universe", "Hard Sci Fi", "Soft Sci fi", etc etc.
Secret World? Science fantasy, alternative universe, dark fantasy.
Warcraft? Fantasy, Steampunk ( goblins and gnomes), etc etc
Do you see people calling FMA a steampunk in mainstream? Do you see everyday people calling the matrix a cyberpunk? probably not. But you dont have to use that name to describe the game especially when selling it to people who dont know.
-.- Were using those terms because thats a way we can use to get our thoughts of it through. If anyone were interested on what it actually means they can google it o.O
Also its a setting o.O Im really confused now because Ive been saying that over and over.
Also if you watched matrix....ill say it again o.O Thats a cyberpunk setting o.O
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you dont have to market it as cyberpunk!!! Call it a sci fi, a world where so and so happens ugh -.-
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Very sorry i can't vote because i really don't have a preference,i just like well thought out games that show some depth behind every idea.I guess if i had any preference,i would leave sci fi out,not because i don't like it,i just know how much work and effort it takes to make a good game in the sci fi genre,example i find Eve to be about a 2/10,no where near the effort needed to be a complete game.
If your developing studio thinks it can handle a sci-fi then go for it,all the power to you guys.
Opinion/suggestion......
Maybe a poll to ask if we like a browser based game or not,because knowing the current trends,i get a sneaky suspicion of browser based here.Or a poll related to the "type" of model you plan on using.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If you are indeed...a company developer of some sort that plan to make a next gen mmorpg i think you should really take under consideration this.
Just in case it will be a medieval fantasy mmoRPG i would suggest to you if u never have done it before you start proggraming codes for the game to install to your computer and play for at least 2 weeks the following games . Mount and blade Warband and oblivion.
Play them carefully observe the combat system,learn from them, see what elements you could take from them and combine them in your game.
Next gen u said? Well since we ve seen so far all the rest mmorpgs ,the one whats missing from the market and hundrends of thousand sof ppl are askign for it , is to see at last a realistic combat system in a well made medieval fantasy world.
tera gw2 are towards action direction but i think they are trying to impress mostly youngsters with flipjumps backwards 20 meters? rolling and jumping around aka frogs? sorry but compared to oblivion or mount and balde warbans they r both kids stuff.
So want to make a revolutionary mmorpg next gen? try realistic looking gameplay. Ppl will love it.
Agreed. But they should also try out a little pen and paper RPGs, like Palladium, Runequest and Warhammer fantasy RPG (not D&D).
And go down to the local ARMA and talk a little with guys that actually know how to use a weapon and have real knowledge about weapons and armor (if nothing else can you find someone for the motion suit there).
Just playing other computer games for ideas isn't good. A few back to basics helps.
MMOs and single player RPGs are based on pen and paper RPGs. P&P RPGs are based on fantasy books that are based on medeivel Europe and actual battles. Knowledge of those things will give you ideas that havn't been used a zillion times.
What do Meridian 59, UO and Everquest have in common? They were made by pen and paper RPG players in an attempt to recreate the wonders of roleplaying to a computer, To make a good game you need to have more knowledge than just abou Wow.
So I agree with you, Tazar.
I put my vote in for Sci-Fi mainly because Fantasy is so burned out. I think horror/vampires appeals to some but you limit the amount of people who are interested as some don't care for those genres much.
I wasnt in the least saying that making a cyber/steam/whatever punk game is out of the question. The original confliction was that companies cannot market a game that is labeled as cyber/steam/whatever punk. Which I see you understand here. That was the original argument though. I never said that we wouldnt do a cyberpunk game because people wouldnt know what it was. Simply stated that we wouldnt call it that and thats why its not on the poll.
Since the last 3-4 posts ive always tried to explain the genre and that you dont have to call it that o.O
I still think that these polls should be redone
Edit : just in case it was forgotten, i think these polls should be redone to give more insight into the setting and moving the fps/tps option out of the poll. Or just forget this poll and askfor the permission To use the info on the other poll
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