any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
GamesCom and PAX Prime are proper game conventions, where fans get to meet the developers and play the demo.
E3 is overrated press-only bull****. Developers only go to E3 for publicity and awards (which give publicity).
U proved my point for me fan conventions are just that fans of the game voted for could so happen that more guyild wars 2 fans came the TOR.
Even though SW:TOR has got more fans than GW2? Nice logic you've got there!
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
*facepalm* all i have seen is 15 - 20 mins long videos. And about E3
E3 – First, let’s get one of the most-asked questions out of the way. We are NOT going to be on the floor at E3. We really have mixed feelings about E3. On the one hand it can be a great centralized way to meet press and retailers. On the other hand, it’s anti-fan. As the marketing guy, if I’m going to spend a boatload of money on a booth, videos, props, etc., I want to be able to share it with the folks who’ll geek-out on it the most – the fans! IMO, E3 could steal a page from gamescom, which is a combination of a civilized business/industry area and a showy exhibit hall that’s open to consumers. If they did that, E3 would be a no-brainer in my book.
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
Now your just making shit up good try through fan boys...
And you're not acting like a fanboy?
Oh the irony.
I try not to take sides when it comes to either game, but can't you just accept that maybe are trying a bit too hard to disrespect one of them?
I am not a fanboy i dont like tor either shit i dont even like half the mmos cause nothing will ever top daoc in it's prime. I am just tired of hearing about a game that has been showing the same shit over and over for a year and getting praised for it.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
So...amount of exposure that a game has decreases its quality/popularity? No.
amount of quality increases popularity...and seeing as how SWTOR has the star wars IP behind it, it is already going to be popular. Too bad popularity doesn't effect quality.
Anyways, what do you think would happen if GW2 went to E3 and then pulled an E3 for all even like they did back in 2004 with GW?
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
Now your just making shit up good try through fan boys...
And you're not acting like a fanboy?
Oh the irony.
I try not to take sides when it comes to either game, but can't you just accept that maybe are trying a bit too hard to disrespect one of them?
I am not a fanboy i dont like tor either shit i dont even like half the mmos cause nothing will ever top daoc in it's prime. I am just tired of hearing about a game that has been showing the same shit over and over for a year and getting praised for it.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is? My point is there is nothing in guild wars 2 that hasnt already been done. Oh they didnt break the holy trinity with no healing i am sure doing raids drinking pots will be some much more fun.
I like Guild Wars 2 for being Guild Wars 2. I played the first Guild Wars for several hundred hours across multiple characters, and I like how they're catering towards the change in my playstyle. I like how they make it so when I make a new character, I'll see a slightly different story, so I don't have to roll my eyes every single time <insert> sacrifices his life to save me (at least I hope). I've been going into action-like fighters and games of that sort for a while, so this faster-paced combat certainly attracts me more than the original Guild Wars style.
I love pulling off combos especially off of what other players do. If I can see a trailer showing a variety of different combos players can coordinate, I'll be completely bought on this game. I'm still waiting to see an air-juggle combo or a chain knockdown combo. Probably setting up myself for failure, but I'm hoping.
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
Now your just making shit up good try through fan boys...
And you're not acting like a fanboy?
Oh the irony.
I try not to take sides when it comes to either game, but can't you just accept that maybe are trying a bit too hard to disrespect one of them?
I am not a fanboy i dont like tor either shit i dont even like half the mmos cause nothing will ever top daoc in it's prime. I am just tired of hearing about a game that has been showing the same shit over and over for a year and getting praised for it.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is?
So? You tried to make out that GW2 has shown nothing new about it's game in the past year. They clearly have. This isn't really about other MMOs.
What new things are you exactly looking for? 4D technology? Flying dishwasher mobs? A penguin surfing minigame? GW2 is an MMO, and looks to be a high quality one at that. Why do you have to bash the game just because other people like it?
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
Now your just making shit up good try through fan boys...
And you're not acting like a fanboy?
Oh the irony.
I try not to take sides when it comes to either game, but can't you just accept that maybe are trying a bit too hard to disrespect one of them?
I am not a fanboy i dont like tor either shit i dont even like half the mmos cause nothing will ever top daoc in it's prime. I am just tired of hearing about a game that has been showing the same shit over and over for a year and getting praised for it.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is?
So? You tried to make out that GW2 has shown nothing new about it's game in the past year. They clearly have. This isn't really about other MMOs.
What new things are you exactly looking for? 4D technology? Flying dishwasher mobs? A penguin surfing minigame? GW2 is an MMO, and looks to be a high quality one at that. Why do you have to bash the game just because other people like it?
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
Now your just making shit up good try through fan boys...
And you're not acting like a fanboy?
Oh the irony.
I try not to take sides when it comes to either game, but can't you just accept that maybe are trying a bit too hard to disrespect one of them?
I am not a fanboy i dont like tor either shit i dont even like half the mmos cause nothing will ever top daoc in it's prime. I am just tired of hearing about a game that has been showing the same shit over and over for a year and getting praised for it.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is?
So? You tried to make out that GW2 has shown nothing new about it's game in the past year. They clearly have. This isn't really about other MMOs.
What new things are you exactly looking for? 4D technology? Flying dishwasher mobs? A penguin surfing minigame? GW2 is an MMO, and looks to be a high quality one at that. Why do you have to bash the game just because other people like it?
U all are just making my point clearer thanks!
Okay then, to answer your question; GW2 has a choice-driven personal story, which has never been done in an MMO before. Happy?
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is? My point is there is nothing in guild wars 2 that hasnt already been done. Oh they didnt break the holy trinity with no healing i am sure doing raids drinking pots will be some much more fun.
Just to clear this up, there are NO health potions.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is? My point is there is nothing in guild wars 2 that hasnt already been done. Oh they didnt break the holy trinity with no healing i am sure doing raids drinking pots will be some much more fun.
Just to clear this up, there are NO health potions.
Good man, we have tried to combat him with logic, but the fact is, that it just doesn't work.
All you gotta do is be hyped for a game you like. But if you cant be hyped for a gme you like without hating on a game you dont. Then you get pages of bickering like this crap thread has become.
Sometimes I think if ToR didnt exist we wouldnt have half the GW2 fanboys we see around here.
Sometimes I think if ToR didnt exist we wouldnt have half the GW2 fanboys we see around here.
i dont agree with this. i think most people are just super excited about GW2 because it looks that good. and many are simply peeved that one of their favourite IP's is a WoW clone.
I got one thing to say and this is my opinion don't bother replying cuz am not going reply back
I see guild wars 2 as a complet new exprience its a new game they are trying to make new things (Unique under water combat, Personal sotry,New Combat system. Mini games, Dynamic events isntead of quests,No holy trinity tanks, healer, dps etc...)
And on other side i see SW:TOR as following:
A wow clone with voice acting NPC scifi theme with lazer swords and lazer guns everyting is the same even the combat oh yeah wait theres something difrent instead of animal mounts they did flying machines .
if BW wants to make a decent profit, they will HAVE TO release before GW2 so they can at least enjoy the box sales, if not the continuing subs.
TOR has nothing to worry about when it comes to GW2. Most gamers, not the rabid fanboys that have been hyping GW2 like its the coming of robot Jesus, know little or nothing about it. I'm excited for both games but will treat GW2 just like I did with GW1...something to play when I'm bored. GW1 was entertaining but not great, and lets not even talk about the "community", one I found so vile that they would make a WoW trade chat troll blush.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Guild wars 2: I cannot describe this game... its like 0 divided by 0 and then black hole f*** everything. Hype: 10 + 0/0
I have read most of your forum posts and I admire your optimism. I really do. But you're setting yourself up for disappointment, mate.
Well if you spent less time reading up on his post history of 27, you can squeeze in time to go look at a guild wars 2 video and have fun, why bother with a hype rating of undefined, it actually made the game sound bad :P
I'll take your advice and watch some of the videos. Please help me find a good Guild Wars 2 podcast with actual PvP combat. Thanks in advance.
10min of ingame combat footage, I think theres some PvP shown at the near end of the trailer, but this basically shows the lack of class system and how everyone helps out everyone, reviving and casting firewalls for protection as well as fire arrows.
EDIT: It also is in a playlist of HD GW2 vids, now surely one of them will inspire you (not to be a fanboy tho, keep it realistic :P)
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
But if you cant be hyped for a gme you like without hating on a game you dont. Then you get pages of bickering like this crap thread has become.
Sometimes I think if ToR didnt exist we wouldnt have half the GW2 fanboys we see around here.
All games have fanboys. GW2, TOR, WoW etc...
In fact, in all the forums I go to, TOR official forum is the worst place for what you are describing. You can't even make suggestions on how to improve the game without being attacked. Must be the StarWars/bioware syndrome. Either way, there are these people for every upcoming game. I'm not how you think GW2 is any different, or worth explicitly pointing out.
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Even though SW:TOR has got more fans than GW2? Nice logic you've got there!
*facepalm* all i have seen is 15 - 20 mins long videos. And about E3
E3 – First, let’s get one of the most-asked questions out of the way. We are NOT going to be on the floor at E3. We really have mixed feelings about E3. On the one hand it can be a great centralized way to meet press and retailers. On the other hand, it’s anti-fan. As the marketing guy, if I’m going to spend a boatload of money on a booth, videos, props, etc., I want to be able to share it with the folks who’ll geek-out on it the most – the fans! IMO, E3 could steal a page from gamescom, which is a combination of a civilized business/industry area and a showy exhibit hall that’s open to consumers. If they did that, E3 would be a no-brainer in my book.
http://www.arena.net/blog/arenanet-hits-the-convention-circuit
misinformed guy is misinformed...
*Psst* Your image doesn't work.
Edit: Nevermind.
Then why the hate? I mean, what's the point?
Yet a couple of days a ago they showed underwater combat and dungeons. That's entirely new, so I don't get what you mean.
So...amount of exposure that a game has decreases its quality/popularity? No.
amount of quality increases popularity...and seeing as how SWTOR has the star wars IP behind it, it is already going to be popular. Too bad popularity doesn't effect quality.
Anyways, what do you think would happen if GW2 went to E3 and then pulled an E3 for all even like they did back in 2004 with GW?
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Daoc and perfect world have underwater combat and so does a ton of other game so your point is? My point is there is nothing in guild wars 2 that hasnt already been done. Oh they didnt break the holy trinity with no healing i am sure doing raids drinking pots will be some much more fun.
I like Guild Wars 2 for being Guild Wars 2. I played the first Guild Wars for several hundred hours across multiple characters, and I like how they're catering towards the change in my playstyle. I like how they make it so when I make a new character, I'll see a slightly different story, so I don't have to roll my eyes every single time <insert> sacrifices his life to save me (at least I hope). I've been going into action-like fighters and games of that sort for a while, so this faster-paced combat certainly attracts me more than the original Guild Wars style.
I love pulling off combos especially off of what other players do. If I can see a trailer showing a variety of different combos players can coordinate, I'll be completely bought on this game. I'm still waiting to see an air-juggle combo or a chain knockdown combo. Probably setting up myself for failure, but I'm hoping.
So? You tried to make out that GW2 has shown nothing new about it's game in the past year. They clearly have. This isn't really about other MMOs.
What new things are you exactly looking for? 4D technology? Flying dishwasher mobs? A penguin surfing minigame? GW2 is an MMO, and looks to be a high quality one at that. Why do you have to bash the game just because other people like it?
U all are just making my point clearer thanks!
Okay then, to answer your question; GW2 has a choice-driven personal story, which has never been done in an MMO before. Happy?
Im a let you finish guild wars 2 but Star Wars The Old Rebuplic is one of the best MMO's of all time.
SW:TOR started development at around the same time as GW2 and will be releasing around the same time as well. So they are both doing something new.
This kind of thing happens a lot with me. Indeed, I should rightfully stop. ; )
We must not speak with the bantha fodder until it has mastered grammar and spelling.
Just to clear this up, there are NO health potions.
Good man, we have tried to combat him with logic, but the fact is, that it just doesn't work.
All you gotta do is be hyped for a game you like.
But if you cant be hyped for a gme you like without hating on a game you dont. Then you get pages of bickering like this crap thread has become.
Sometimes I think if ToR didnt exist we wouldnt have half the GW2 fanboys we see around here.
if BW wants to make a decent profit, they will HAVE TO release before GW2 so they can at least enjoy the box sales, if not the continuing subs.
i dont agree with this. i think most people are just super excited about GW2 because it looks that good. and many are simply peeved that one of their favourite IP's is a WoW clone.
I got one thing to say and this is my opinion don't bother replying cuz am not going reply back
I see guild wars 2 as a complet new exprience its a new game they are trying to make new things (Unique under water combat, Personal sotry,New Combat system. Mini games, Dynamic events isntead of quests,No holy trinity tanks, healer, dps etc...)
And on other side i see SW:TOR as following:
A wow clone with voice acting NPC scifi theme with lazer swords and lazer guns everyting is the same even the combat oh yeah wait theres something difrent instead of animal mounts they did flying machines .
TOR has nothing to worry about when it comes to GW2. Most gamers, not the rabid fanboys that have been hyping GW2 like its the coming of robot Jesus, know little or nothing about it. I'm excited for both games but will treat GW2 just like I did with GW1...something to play when I'm bored. GW1 was entertaining but not great, and lets not even talk about the "community", one I found so vile that they would make a WoW trade chat troll blush.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
yo. I'm really happy for you SWTOR and i'mma let you finish but Guild wars 2 is the best upcoming mmo of all time. OF ALL TIME!
XD
are you really the first person to actually read the thread title? lol.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrac1ZhXUks&playnext=1&list=PL1EBC50B789FC136A
10min of ingame combat footage, I think theres some PvP shown at the near end of the trailer, but this basically shows the lack of class system and how everyone helps out everyone, reviving and casting firewalls for protection as well as fire arrows.
EDIT: It also is in a playlist of HD GW2 vids, now surely one of them will inspire you (not to be a fanboy tho, keep it realistic :P)
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
All games have fanboys. GW2, TOR, WoW etc...
In fact, in all the forums I go to, TOR official forum is the worst place for what you are describing. You can't even make suggestions on how to improve the game without being attacked. Must be the StarWars/bioware syndrome. Either way, there are these people for every upcoming game. I'm not how you think GW2 is any different, or worth explicitly pointing out.