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Why do people complain about ps3 exclusive?
This is really really confusing me.
And heres why...
CCP said a long time ago that they wanted to cater to a completely different audence from the eve players so that they dont end up competing against each other.
Xbox 360 mmorpgs require the servers to be under microsofts FULL CONTROL. Therefore you can not have DUST interacting with eve unless they fork over the eve server to microsoft.
If they released this game for consoles AND pcs that means that you have to seperate the console and pc players at all times. This is because the PC players will 100% without a doubt own the console playeres. This would lead to having to make an even more complicated server structure to handle the segregation of PC and PS3 players. Granted it wont be THAT complex but it will still end up causing problems on a gameplay perspective.
So I really dont understand all the people going "It shouldve been on the xbox as well" or "we need it for the pc" or "Its seperating the playerbase" Face it people we knew from the beginning that CCP was targetting the people who dont play EVE o.o
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1. So they did, so they are not catering to my audience, the PC audience. So I no likey.
2. See # 1.
3. It is not my fault people want to play on inferior machines.
So we knew from the beginning, and I complained from the beginning. wth is your point?
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Dust 514 was promoted as cross-console by CCP for two years. And FFXI is already cross-platform (Xbox 360, PS2, PC and early PS3's).
There is nothing wrong with targeting another audience. Many developers do it with many of their titles. What CCP has done however is split a pre-existing title. had CCP wanted to release a stand alone online lobby shooter 'based' on the EvE universe no one would have cared. They have however created what essentially equates to an expansion to their game and then told a large chunk of their playerbase they could not enjoy it. Imagine if WoW's Cataclysm had released on XBox only and Blizzard told all of their current players they would need to purchase an XBox to enjoy the new content.
There is also this when it comes to the 360, this is in reference to the Tribes game coming out by Hi-rez, but I guess this would effect dust to.
From a IGN Q&A...
"It was originally announced for PC and 360, but at the moment it seems like the 360 version is on hold. At least until Microsoft figures out a way to let developers patch their games regularly and with ease."
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Patching via the PS3 isn't any easier. DCUO, for example, has to through Sony's normal patching process.
I'm not sure what that means, I've been trying to use google-fu to get more info on the 360 issue can't seem to find any. Mind explaining a little further about what using Sony's normal patching process means? My google-fu proved weak tracking that info down to.
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From DCUO PC website where PC players were complaining about PS3 approval process slowing down PC version. Response is from SOE employee: "Actually I'm going to close this one before it gets even more heated. There are no plans to stagger updates as both versions have to go through a number of approvals (the PS3 just has one additional one). Hotfixes are being planned for bugs we've reported and we appreciate the patience everyone has had with them." Source
The reason why I don't play EvE is because I can't stand the long travels and the empty space although I love the gameplay
If EvE had Dust incorporated I will definetly play it
Dust should be an EvE expansion, because tha's what EvE is missing to increase its appeal, it would be nice to have Space warfare and Planet battlegrounds in one game.
Therefore is a shame they won't release it for PCs, since I was hoping for something like that to start playing EvE seriously.
Console players won't pay a subscription, when developers are going to learn that simple fact?
Oh well, I am sure Firefall and Planetside Next will get all the subscription Dust will miss out.
Know by chance if this is the same hurdle Xbox has as well? The way I took that 360 comments was there was something on a technical level rather than just an approval level.
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It's approval based for both the PS3 and Xbox 360. FFXI, for example, was approved for the Xbox 360 and even runs cross-platform. And even SOE's internal MMOs have to go through SCE's approval process for patching.
So to say one console is 'patch friendly' while the other is not simply isn't based in fact.
Thats hardly a comparison
Eve and dust to WoW and cataclysm.
If they added Underwater exploration in the WoW world that has slight connections to WoW and with completely different gameplay then you can compare it that way. But then even still, its a pretty far off difference.
Cataclysm is still WoW and plays like wow, is built like wow, etc. DUST is a completely new game. No space ships, no attacking each other and minimal contact between them. You cant take your eve ship and land to see whats going on in dust and they cant go up to your space ship and see whats going on in eve.
There is actually very minimal contact compared to the ones shown in trailers where you see eve ships bombard the planets and stuff. At most, itll be handled through a menu or w/e but not directly like how its shown.
This is actually reminding me more of Pokemon colliseum in Gamecube being linked to Pokemon in the GBA and not like WoW and Cataclysm.
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I think the concept is cool... It is expanding the EvE IP to a new genre. Clever.
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fucking sick ps3 is amazing, i am so happy it isnt on just xbox360. i dont mind it being on both, but ps3 is great news for me
I am not bashing at all. But it is funny to see someone so excited over PS with its recent set backs as a corporation. I agree I like PS, not matter where they messed up. Same for Sega...
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Seriously... you have to ask why people complain?
Ummm... doesn't it make sense that those with a PC or Xbox who were looking forward to the game might be just a little dissapointed?
And ps3? What were they thinking by choosing the console with the smallest market penetration?
Maybe because it is clearly the more superior of the consoles.
Not to mention they probably put a bid out for the systems before deciding multi-platform. If thats the case they will get their revenue they want...
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Why do people complain about ps3 exclusive?
Because I don't own one and would like to play it. Any game that comes out for one platform only limits its audience. CCP says they are doing this to bring a new audience as you ahve said. . . so why limit it?
I lose a game and they lose a potential customer.
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To answer the OP's question.. I am not exactly a complainer but I was effected by this. I am a former EvE player, and while I enjoyed the game, most of the elements were too slow for me. However, I did really enjoy the game in a lot of ways. When I first watched a video of the CCP team showing DUST - I was very very impressied. I thought to myself "Finally some hardcore action and a ground game to the empty space". I did a bit more research and realized it was for consoles only. I was very disappointed. Never thought about it again.
My personal opinion about EvE is that is has tremendous potential. For example.. If the space part of EvE were to be only 1 element of the game. Then you could say fly to a planet. Dock your Ship, and then explore the planet in an FPS style. That would be amazing. With the captains quarters I think they are heading in the right direction. Maybe in another year or 2 I will end up playing this game. But at the moment it's simply not for me.
I think the people who played FFXI on Xbox and PS3 would disagree including me. Not to mention the people playing DCUO on PS3 which is actually doing quite well. I also play DCUO on PS3 btw.
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Do you mean all the 3-4 players?
The few players who still play those games do it on PC
Why people should pay a subscription for DCU when there is plenty of similar games available on PS3 which are free?
Console gamers are games fanatics as in they need to play something new at least once a week they do not have the constance to play the same game for long, even less if they have to pay for it.
Better to buy a brand new game than spending money on subscription.
Play which games? FFXI I'm sure still has players on the Xbox360, probably not PS2 as the system is a gen old. Point is they had people on those systems that were just fine with paying a subscription. Also let's not forget Phantasy Star and EQ Adventures which aslo had subs and did fine on the PS2. DCUO as I said while doing poorly on the pc is doing just fine on the PS3 as evidenced by the fact that the servers are always quite populated unlike thier PC counterparts.
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Phantasy Star and EQ Adventures, dead games.......... just to show how unfeasable the monthly subscription is
DCU is still fairly new and has been made specifically for Console, also I would like to know how many servers does it have 2?.......4? Not a lot for a good financial return, it is just a niche
Console gamers are very different from PC gamers
Of course the majority of gamers own both a Console and a PC but their habits are fairly different
I play mainly MMORPGs on PCs and play Console games for the FPS and Racing Games, but I won't pay a subscription to play an FPS or a Racing game
I believe that's the way gamers use the PC and the Console, they compensate each other, they are not in competition
The PC is a better environment for subscription based games, Consoles are the classic "Arcade" machines were people want fun on tap without the fuss of having to pay a monthly subscription for a single game
Well, OP, it's simple. One day, the Dust 514 fanboys are going to wake up and realize that since it's a PS3 exclusive, Sony Publishing will be the publisher and you'll have to give Sony your cash if you want to play 514. Like it or not, there is a lot of hate around these parts for anything Sony because of the whole CU/NGE thing with regards to SWG.
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Actually, Phantasy Star Universe on the Xbox 360 has outlived both the PS2 and PC versions. There are large numbers of Xbox 360 and PS2 FFXI players. And DCUO set SOE sales records because it came to the PS3 as well as PC. The game failed long-term because of SOE and their infamous 'patches' and 'fixes'...not unwilling players.