Let this serve as a lesson to the fools that think Devs are the ones ruining the genre. They are just catering to the masses.
Solo players are not "ruining the genre". Nothing is ruining anything. Like all aspects of modern life, shit changes. No one is to blame for it.
Old-school "forced grouping" games were cool when they were the only thing going. Devs realized that model was turning off a huge portion of the potential market, so they adapted. I've been around a while (had a UO account on release day) and I enjoy MMORPGS a hell of a lot more now than I did then. See, it's up to me to decide what's fun for me and what I'll pay for.
The "community" people QQ about losing only existed because we were forced to wait for long periods of time for interesting shit to happen. Devs realized that that is a dumb way to go -- so respawn times are shorter, once-a-day spawns are replaced by instances. More people subscribe, devs make more money.
The fact is that we "old schoolers" can't go home again. The conditions that allowed the bullshit people get all nostalgic for don't exist anymore.
even if you could find a game that worked exactly like pre-NGE swg or old-school UO or whatever, it would not be the same. Because the scene you're nostalgic for only existed because so many diverse types of interests were forced into one environment. Now, a pvp'er can find a pure pvp game. Carebears will be doing something else, though, so the old-school predatory PK environment won't ever exist again. Crafters will favor crafting-heavy MMOs. Pet lovers will favor Rappelz or FW.
I play these games to experience a fantasy world that I cannot experience in reality, call it an alternate reality if you will. Any game feature that improves immersion is a good one in my book, any game feature that distracts from the "alternate world" feeling is a bad one.
I do not care about competition in games at all, it's meaningless to me. Thus count me in for the cooperative play style.
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Can't believe theres so many Solo preference players out there! Sadly...over time I've become one of them : /.
When I used to have free time I would have instantly voted for group play. But nowadays ....well I'm still just waiting for my next MMO but now I have other things to do in RL...
Currently playing AoC:HA - it could be the fact that its F2P and the community consists of idiots mainly, could be the fact that there are very few people online - but I can't be arsed to group.
Hopefully when the next MMO comes and lots of people play it I'll go back to grouping. But in games I'm not fully invested in, I'll solo just to kill time.
I guess that could be a fair representation of the majority of the people posting here. They are playing solo to kill time - i.e. they are not fully committed to the MMO they are playing - i.e. they aren't enjoying it that much.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
I'd just like to reiterate that the poll isnt about why you play in relation to game content (it doesnt end, or achieving things etc). The question is, since you enjoy the fact that it doesnt end - do you mostly prefer to play by your self or with others? And when achieving things, do you like to do so mostly alone or in a group?
I suspect a few people clicked other as a refusal to be categorized, but when in reality, they objectively easily could have clicked on of the options without much insult to their egos. It could of course also be that the explanation sucked, wich I then would regret.
The A.I. difficulty varies from rpg to rpg or mmorpg to mmorpg but it always have a cap .Mostly its difficulty ro beat is based on numbers (bosses have huge life bars huge strenght etc etc) which means even in top seelling titles in the market the ai is a joke.
Main reason is the so callled better challenge which u can find only vs other players who's reactions in combat could be unpedictable(without script :] ) . Even the competition with other guilds on various goals is a big reason for many players to play mmorpg's.
Sure coop with guildmates and other players is a plus but its mostly a mean so u can achive the goals which as i explained above is the competition vs other players.
As a final state if someone wanted a solid pve expirience most single player rpg's are better than any pve mmorpg not to mentionu can play coop many rpg's with friends via hamachi or tcp ip .
i love to socialize with people ingame having common goals with a guild/clan , no matter if its in a sandbox or themepark game( yes thats possible).
But sometimes , specially when i have had a bad day , i dont wanna talk nor hang out with anyone ingame ...i just wanna play solo like "ego doesnt share his lego"
Sometimes i wanna whack someone and take his belongings saying "thank you Sir, ill put it to good use"
Sometimes i wanna help a newbie out of his disorientation and spoonfeed him a little.
Im a mixed bag.......
PS:
If an mmo happens to catch me for longer than 2 month these days ...it means it has a tight knit mature community that
holds some sort of mental quality specialy when it comes to socialize in respect with others.
but honestly sandbox , themepark no matter what stereotype you wanna put it ...
theres a steep curve towards south when it comes to Ogame communities
I suspect a few people clicked other as a refusal to be categorized, but when in reality, they objectively easily could have clicked on of the options without much insult to their egos. It could of course also be that the explanation sucked, wich I then would regret.
Well, your title says you want to know "why" people play these games, but in the poll you're providing choices of "how" to play. Thus the answers are for two different questions. I think that's why people (including me) choose "other".
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I suspect a few people clicked other as a refusal to be categorized, but when in reality, they objectively easily could have clicked on of the options without much insult to their egos. It could of course also be that the explanation sucked, wich I then would regret.
Well, your title says you want to know "why" people play these games, but in the poll you're providing choices of "how" to play. Thus the answers are for two different questions. I think that's why people (including me) choose "other".
Im not quite sure I agree with you. If cooperation is not a means, but an end, then it's not a question of "how" you play, but "why". However, for some, as a poster above me mentioned, he saw cooperation as a means to victory (over other players). For him, achieving victory is "why", and grouping up is a "how". For me its the other way around - I play for the social experience, and the victory is what bonds us together (how). In any case, I feel my original question of "why" you play mmorpgs is still valid. I am just steering you into a more focused topic of discussion because the answer to "why" could be interepreted probably as many times as there are users in here. Most of us probably have several reasons to play mmorpgs, and they are likely to vary from time to time. There is probably a why that is some how related to other people, and that's the 'why' I want to know about.
I can go into tons of science on how to create a meaningful poll, but honestly, you can just look that up on the internet if you want to and find a better expert than me.
I think that a lot of people play because they enjoy "play in a massive shared persistent world" and what they enjoy "the most" is that this play can vary from solo to group to arm's length interaction (i.e. buying an item another player made without directly interacting with that player, etc.).
If you wanted to find out whether people prefer soloing or grouping, you should have asked that. You've kinda mixed several different questions into one and people are answering the most obvious one, which "why do you play MMOs?".
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@Arieste: hmm, so you dont find my intro to the poll enlightening at all?
Not really.
Many players play (exclusively PvE) so that they can win over other players by defeating content ahead of them.
Many players play so they can raid and can sell stuff on auction and make money (commerce, but not really solo).
Those are just two easy examples of how the lack of clarity in what you're asking sabotages your own explanations. Generally, the more you explain, the less clear things become for polls.
You make the assumption that what draws players to MMOs in general is either the desire to play to solo or the desire to play in group. This is a faulty assumption. Players are drawn by all kinds of diverse things. Tons of people play just for story or for challenge, none of it has anything to do with solo or group. Sure, they may end up doing things solo or in a group, but that may not be the driving factor behind them wanting to play an MMO.
Hell, some people play MMOs because they like the graphics or because they're based on Tolkien or Star Wars. Some people play MMOs because they're really cheap compared to other forms of entertainment.
There is a pretty famous test called the "Bartle Test" that classifies different types of RPG players based on what they like to do in game. It attempts to answer the question of how people play, but it involves multiple questions with set examples and provides an answer as percentages among 4 categories. Just goes to show that it's not really as simple as asking "why do you play?".
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
@Arieste: First I want to thank you for your feedback. I apprecate it.
Then I have to admit I'm going to not read all of your post, and thus returning the favor you showed me by not reading mine. In just a post or two above yours I explained that I know there are many reasons to play a mmorpg. I am in this poll only interested in a very narrow part of the reason why. I am assuming that "other people" has some sort of bearing when playing an MMORPG - wether it be to be with those others, or shun them.
But ok, the poll is as it is, and even though the number of people answering "other" is very high, it is also very interesting seeing the relationship between "group" and "solo" answers.
It's not really possible to deduct any valuable information from this poll, because I have no reasonable amount of controll over the survey group. According to some studies, only a fraction of the total player base is even here to read this survey, and the question then is: who exactly are those players. Are they "the vocal minority". Do we have a broad representation? Nope we probably dont, and hence - this is simply a pop-survey easily thrown into the trash can at the end of the day
Because I play to have fun. If I felt like melting peoples faces, Id go ahead and melt their faces.
If I want to kill a big ole stupid dragon then Ill go alone. If I cant do it alone, I grab a bunch of other random people.
I also usually like to play with other people. Doesnt matter if were just a 10 man group, farming mats and crafting or even a 40 man group of level 85s raiding hogger o.o
Sometimes, I go to the mmo I play just to troll chat, other times I just go there cuz Im bored but then when I get there Im still bored so like..Yah! o.o
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Because I play to have fun. If I felt like melting peoples faces, Id go ahead and melt their faces.
If I want to kill a big ole stupid dragon then Ill go alone. If I cant do it alone, I grab a bunch of other random people.
I also usually like to play with other people. Doesnt matter if were just a 10 man group, farming mats and crafting or even a 40 man group of level 85s raiding hogger o.o
Sometimes, I go to the mmo I play just to troll chat, other times I just go there cuz Im bored but then when I get there Im still bored so like..Yah! o.o
I'm wondering if it was a mistake to include "other" as a valid option. In this case, the poster says that he/she usually plays in a group. Yet he/she clicked "other" because of wanting to point out he/she was playing for FUN. The first sentence in the introduction clearly says that it's a GIVEN that the game in question is played because its fun. I'm not measuring how many people play because they are looking for fun... I'm asking wether you usually play in a group, solo or AH setting when you're having "fun"
Because I play to have fun. If I felt like melting peoples faces, Id go ahead and melt their faces.
If I want to kill a big ole stupid dragon then Ill go alone. If I cant do it alone, I grab a bunch of other random people.
I also usually like to play with other people. Doesnt matter if were just a 10 man group, farming mats and crafting or even a 40 man group of level 85s raiding hogger o.o
Sometimes, I go to the mmo I play just to troll chat, other times I just go there cuz Im bored but then when I get there Im still bored so like..Yah! o.o
I'm wondering if it was a mistake to include "other" as a valid option. In this case, the poster says that he/she usually plays in a group. Yet he/she clicked "other" because of wanting to point out he/she was playing for FUN. The first sentence in the introduction clearly says that it's a GIVEN that the game in question is played because its fun. I'm not measuring how many people play because they are looking for fun... I'm asking wether you usually play in a group, solo or AH setting when you're having "fun"
Oh well I live and I learn.
Hmm I should rephrase that. I meant that we are 10 people farming different mats*
Like...yknoe grouping up just to use the group chat and such? Like...soloing while in a group o.o Doesnt usually happen in western mmos, but it happens a LOT in eastern ones I played. Like DOMO. We group up then seperate and do our own thing but were still in a group even if were each doing different things like one d00d farming over the other side of the map or something similar.
How would you treat grouping in an AH setting then? Because I did say farming mats and crafting o.o so for the most part we would each be farming different things and then just hanging around crafting stuff :O
If I were to generalize it,
I would usually be soloing some of the time, soloing while grouped most of the time, doing group stuff sometimes, and AH setting would be game dependent o.o I actually remember being in crafting groups in Neosteam where we were just grouped together and mining and stuff together even if at its heart, we really didnt even need to be grouped up for that o.o but then again we needed the chat box thingie o.o
Where would that fall under? Because it will be soloing in groups but then that wouldnt fit in either of those 2 categories o.o
Edit :
To make it clearer, I tend ot treat groups in eastern mmos as temporary guilds o.o' so yah
Edit:
And where would soloing in groups fall under as well? :O
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Because I play to have fun. If I felt like melting peoples faces, Id go ahead and melt their faces.
If I want to kill a big ole stupid dragon then Ill go alone. If I cant do it alone, I grab a bunch of other random people.
I also usually like to play with other people. Doesnt matter if were just a 10 man group, farming mats and crafting or even a 40 man group of level 85s raiding hogger o.o
Sometimes, I go to the mmo I play just to troll chat, other times I just go there cuz Im bored but then when I get there Im still bored so like..Yah! o.o
I'm wondering if it was a mistake to include "other" as a valid option. In this case, the poster says that he/she usually plays in a group. Yet he/she clicked "other" because of wanting to point out he/she was playing for FUN. The first sentence in the introduction clearly says that it's a GIVEN that the game in question is played because its fun. I'm not measuring how many people play because they are looking for fun... I'm asking wether you usually play in a group, solo or AH setting when you're having "fun"
Oh well I live and I learn.
Hmm I should rephrase that. I meant that we are 10 people farming different mats*
Like...yknoe grouping up just to use the group chat and such? Like...soloing while in a group o.o Doesnt usually happen in western mmos, but it happens a LOT in eastern ones I played. Like DOMO. We group up then seperate and do our own thing but were still in a group even if were each doing different things like one d00d farming over the other side of the map or something similar.
How would you treat grouping in an AH setting then? Because I did say farming mats and crafting o.o so for the most part we would each be farming different things and then just hanging around crafting stuff :O
If I were to generalize it,
I would usually be soloing some of the time, soloing while grouped most of the time, doing group stuff sometimes, and AH setting would be game dependent o.o I actually remember being in crafting groups in Neosteam where we were just grouped together and mining and stuff together even if at its heart, we really didnt even need to be grouped up for that o.o but then again we needed the chat box thingie o.o
Where would that fall under? Because it will be soloing in groups but then that wouldnt fit in either of those 2 categories o.o
Edit :
To make it clearer, I tend ot treat groups in eastern mmos as temporary guilds o.o' so yah
Yes, I see your point. And it's a good one - it's not easy (or even just) to slip into one single category. Yet, that's what the poll asks you to do. It's up to you and your discretion to select a category that suits you *the most*. Maybe it'd be easier to answer if you ask yourself "if I had to take one of these things away from my game, which would I miss the most?" I dont know if that would help. Of course we often play our games because of the game as a whole, and not a single part. Just click one you think suits you the most, close your eyes and hope for the best?
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Solo players are not "ruining the genre". Nothing is ruining anything. Like all aspects of modern life, shit changes. No one is to blame for it.
Old-school "forced grouping" games were cool when they were the only thing going. Devs realized that model was turning off a huge portion of the potential market, so they adapted. I've been around a while (had a UO account on release day) and I enjoy MMORPGS a hell of a lot more now than I did then. See, it's up to me to decide what's fun for me and what I'll pay for.
The "community" people QQ about losing only existed because we were forced to wait for long periods of time for interesting shit to happen. Devs realized that that is a dumb way to go -- so respawn times are shorter, once-a-day spawns are replaced by instances. More people subscribe, devs make more money.
The fact is that we "old schoolers" can't go home again. The conditions that allowed the bullshit people get all nostalgic for don't exist anymore.
even if you could find a game that worked exactly like pre-NGE swg or old-school UO or whatever, it would not be the same. Because the scene you're nostalgic for only existed because so many diverse types of interests were forced into one environment. Now, a pvp'er can find a pure pvp game. Carebears will be doing something else, though, so the old-school predatory PK environment won't ever exist again. Crafters will favor crafting-heavy MMOs. Pet lovers will favor Rappelz or FW.
For me its a total package in a good mmo.
PvP
PvE
Crafting
Aucion House
Exploring
Meeting nice people
Those are some of the major things
Yep.
Its not something specific, its the many things you can do.
Including soloing. Being able to manage really hard content solo is big fun.
Voted other.
I play these games to experience a fantasy world that I cannot experience in reality, call it an alternate reality if you will. Any game feature that improves immersion is a good one in my book, any game feature that distracts from the "alternate world" feeling is a bad one.
I do not care about competition in games at all, it's meaningless to me. Thus count me in for the cooperative play style.
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I can only choose one?
To me its all those reasons !
To inhabit another world.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
I hear you buddy.
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That poll's results are horrible!
Can't believe theres so many Solo preference players out there! Sadly...over time I've become one of them : /.
When I used to have free time I would have instantly voted for group play. But nowadays ....well I'm still just waiting for my next MMO but now I have other things to do in RL...
Currently playing AoC:HA - it could be the fact that its F2P and the community consists of idiots mainly, could be the fact that there are very few people online - but I can't be arsed to group.
Hopefully when the next MMO comes and lots of people play it I'll go back to grouping. But in games I'm not fully invested in, I'll solo just to kill time.
I guess that could be a fair representation of the majority of the people posting here. They are playing solo to kill time - i.e. they are not fully committed to the MMO they are playing - i.e. they aren't enjoying it that much.
I'd just like to reiterate that the poll isnt about why you play in relation to game content (it doesnt end, or achieving things etc). The question is, since you enjoy the fact that it doesnt end - do you mostly prefer to play by your self or with others? And when achieving things, do you like to do so mostly alone or in a group?
I suspect a few people clicked other as a refusal to be categorized, but when in reality, they objectively easily could have clicked on of the options without much insult to their egos. It could of course also be that the explanation sucked, wich I then would regret.
For me the answer is more than obvious.
The A.I. difficulty varies from rpg to rpg or mmorpg to mmorpg but it always have a cap .Mostly its difficulty ro beat is based on numbers (bosses have huge life bars huge strenght etc etc) which means even in top seelling titles in the market the ai is a joke.
Main reason is the so callled better challenge which u can find only vs other players who's reactions in combat could be unpedictable(without script :] ) . Even the competition with other guilds on various goals is a big reason for many players to play mmorpg's.
Sure coop with guildmates and other players is a plus but its mostly a mean so u can achive the goals which as i explained above is the competition vs other players.
As a final state if someone wanted a solid pve expirience most single player rpg's are better than any pve mmorpg not to mentionu can play coop many rpg's with friends via hamachi or tcp ip .
voted for other
i love to socialize with people ingame having common goals with a guild/clan , no matter if its in a sandbox or themepark game( yes thats possible).
But sometimes , specially when i have had a bad day , i dont wanna talk nor hang out with anyone ingame ...i just wanna play solo like "ego doesnt share his lego"
Sometimes i wanna whack someone and take his belongings saying "thank you Sir, ill put it to good use"
Sometimes i wanna help a newbie out of his disorientation and spoonfeed him a little.
Im a mixed bag.......
PS:
If an mmo happens to catch me for longer than 2 month these days ...it means it has a tight knit mature community that
holds some sort of mental quality specialy when it comes to socialize in respect with others.
but honestly sandbox , themepark no matter what stereotype you wanna put it ...
theres a steep curve towards south when it comes to Ogame communities
peace
I have never enjoyed solo play in an MMORPG. I don't find it enjoyable or entertaining in the least.
I either group, look for a group, or whack mobs at the entrance of a popular dungeon while waiting to find a group.
I don't pursue solo quests, or grind solo. I find it as interesting as watching paint dry.
If you removed all solo content from a game, I would not notice because I don't play it.
Cooperation is the real goal, but it has to have things to do/accomplish solo for the times you just dont want to bother with anyone else.
Well, your title says you want to know "why" people play these games, but in the poll you're providing choices of "how" to play. Thus the answers are for two different questions. I think that's why people (including me) choose "other".
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To strategically kill others; wasn't an option.
What's wrong wit'u?
Im not quite sure I agree with you. If cooperation is not a means, but an end, then it's not a question of "how" you play, but "why". However, for some, as a poster above me mentioned, he saw cooperation as a means to victory (over other players). For him, achieving victory is "why", and grouping up is a "how". For me its the other way around - I play for the social experience, and the victory is what bonds us together (how). In any case, I feel my original question of "why" you play mmorpgs is still valid. I am just steering you into a more focused topic of discussion because the answer to "why" could be interepreted probably as many times as there are users in here. Most of us probably have several reasons to play mmorpgs, and they are likely to vary from time to time. There is probably a why that is some how related to other people, and that's the 'why' I want to know about.
It's a poorly phrased poll.
I can go into tons of science on how to create a meaningful poll, but honestly, you can just look that up on the internet if you want to and find a better expert than me.
I think that a lot of people play because they enjoy "play in a massive shared persistent world" and what they enjoy "the most" is that this play can vary from solo to group to arm's length interaction (i.e. buying an item another player made without directly interacting with that player, etc.).
If you wanted to find out whether people prefer soloing or grouping, you should have asked that. You've kinda mixed several different questions into one and people are answering the most obvious one, which "why do you play MMOs?".
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
@Arieste: hmm, so you dont find my intro to the poll enlightening at all?
Not really.
Many players play (exclusively PvE) so that they can win over other players by defeating content ahead of them.
Many players play so they can raid and can sell stuff on auction and make money (commerce, but not really solo).
Those are just two easy examples of how the lack of clarity in what you're asking sabotages your own explanations. Generally, the more you explain, the less clear things become for polls.
You make the assumption that what draws players to MMOs in general is either the desire to play to solo or the desire to play in group. This is a faulty assumption. Players are drawn by all kinds of diverse things. Tons of people play just for story or for challenge, none of it has anything to do with solo or group. Sure, they may end up doing things solo or in a group, but that may not be the driving factor behind them wanting to play an MMO.
Hell, some people play MMOs because they like the graphics or because they're based on Tolkien or Star Wars. Some people play MMOs because they're really cheap compared to other forms of entertainment.
There is a pretty famous test called the "Bartle Test" that classifies different types of RPG players based on what they like to do in game. It attempts to answer the question of how people play, but it involves multiple questions with set examples and provides an answer as percentages among 4 categories. Just goes to show that it's not really as simple as asking "why do you play?".
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
@Arieste: First I want to thank you for your feedback. I apprecate it.
Then I have to admit I'm going to not read all of your post, and thus returning the favor you showed me by not reading mine. In just a post or two above yours I explained that I know there are many reasons to play a mmorpg. I am in this poll only interested in a very narrow part of the reason why. I am assuming that "other people" has some sort of bearing when playing an MMORPG - wether it be to be with those others, or shun them.
But ok, the poll is as it is, and even though the number of people answering "other" is very high, it is also very interesting seeing the relationship between "group" and "solo" answers.
It's not really possible to deduct any valuable information from this poll, because I have no reasonable amount of controll over the survey group. According to some studies, only a fraction of the total player base is even here to read this survey, and the question then is: who exactly are those players. Are they "the vocal minority". Do we have a broad representation? Nope we probably dont, and hence - this is simply a pop-survey easily thrown into the trash can at the end of the day
KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL.
crafting is nice.
I voted "other"
Because I play to have fun. If I felt like melting peoples faces, Id go ahead and melt their faces.
If I want to kill a big ole stupid dragon then Ill go alone. If I cant do it alone, I grab a bunch of other random people.
I also usually like to play with other people. Doesnt matter if were just a 10 man group, farming mats and crafting or even a 40 man group of level 85s raiding hogger o.o
Sometimes, I go to the mmo I play just to troll chat, other times I just go there cuz Im bored but then when I get there Im still bored so like..Yah! o.o
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I'm wondering if it was a mistake to include "other" as a valid option. In this case, the poster says that he/she usually plays in a group. Yet he/she clicked "other" because of wanting to point out he/she was playing for FUN. The first sentence in the introduction clearly says that it's a GIVEN that the game in question is played because its fun. I'm not measuring how many people play because they are looking for fun... I'm asking wether you usually play in a group, solo or AH setting when you're having "fun"
Oh well
I live and I learn.
Hmm I should rephrase that. I meant that we are 10 people farming different mats*
Like...yknoe grouping up just to use the group chat and such? Like...soloing while in a group o.o Doesnt usually happen in western mmos, but it happens a LOT in eastern ones I played. Like DOMO. We group up then seperate and do our own thing but were still in a group even if were each doing different things like one d00d farming over the other side of the map or something similar.
How would you treat grouping in an AH setting then? Because I did say farming mats and crafting o.o so for the most part we would each be farming different things and then just hanging around crafting stuff :O
If I were to generalize it,
I would usually be soloing some of the time, soloing while grouped most of the time, doing group stuff sometimes, and AH setting would be game dependent o.o I actually remember being in crafting groups in Neosteam where we were just grouped together and mining and stuff together even if at its heart, we really didnt even need to be grouped up for that o.o but then again we needed the chat box thingie o.o
Where would that fall under? Because it will be soloing in groups but then that wouldnt fit in either of those 2 categories o.o
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To make it clearer, I tend ot treat groups in eastern mmos as temporary guilds o.o' so yah
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And where would soloing in groups fall under as well? :O
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Yes, I see your point. And it's a good one - it's not easy (or even just) to slip into one single category. Yet, that's what the poll asks you to do. It's up to you and your discretion to select a category that suits you *the most*. Maybe it'd be easier to answer if you ask yourself "if I had to take one of these things away from my game, which would I miss the most?" I dont know if that would help. Of course we often play our games because of the game as a whole, and not a single part. Just click one you think suits you the most, close your eyes and hope for the best?