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welcome back week 13th - 19th July
OkhamsRazor
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Apparently theres a welcome back week starting today .http://uk.riftgame.com/en/products/return-to-telara/index.php?utm_campaign=return_to_telara_0711&utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotions_eu&utm_content=learn_more_button
Its ment to start today but I can't seam to get in . Has anyone else had any luck ?
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From the site:
Query:
If the game is doing as well as people say, why do you have to offer old players a free week to come back after four months?
Does it seem logical based on the 'trial servers' and the deep, deep discounts we've seen so far?
"TO MICHAEL!"
I'm also unable to login, no idea why it won't work.
I read on the forums they are working on it, and that they jumped the gun a bit by sending out the e-mails now. Should be fixed asap, and the only thing you need to to do is login. Looking forward to trying it later, hopefully today.
Dev tracker post on the Rift forums said hold tight, the emails went out a bit early, they are still activating everyone's accounts to utilize this.
But the really cool news out of Rift today is what they have in patch 1.4
PVP Rifts! Cross Shard LFG and more PVP changes.
WoW has had free trials since forever and almost every game out there sends out a free trial to old players after releasing new content. I am still getting them from AoC and I got one from WoW recently. It is all about trying to bring in subscription revenue.
If you want to read something into it then have at it, but this is not uncommon for any game whether it is doing well or poorly.
I'm asking because you seem to be pretty familiar with WoW since 'forever'.
"TO MICHAEL!"
lol welcome back already? thats like them assuming people have already quit.
Although there were a good number of MMOs out when WOW was released....there wasn't enough of a need to offer a welcome back promo back then. The competition is exponentially greater these days and ..imo....RIFT is smart to try and keep/reclaim and gain as many subs as possible. Think of all the MMOs that have gone under..they didnt even have the money to adverstise like RIFt does. That alone should say something. I'm not saying Rift hasn't lost subs..all MMOs do. They're just not going to cry about it and give up. Populations on the servers I'm on are a bit lower but far from empty.
I don't see any hate in his message. He's just pointing out the truth. WoW didn't jump on having big sales and inviting previous purchasers to return this fast. They didn't need to. I don't remember WoW ever on sale actually. In fact I haven't seen any MMO jump on these price drops, free trial program, and free weeks/weekends to prior players this soon after release. It proves they must be seeing a large drop in subscribers because what would they have to benefit from this program if there were only a small number of prior unsubscribed players?
I still hope players are enjoying it and that it does well for Trion. I'm not going to ignore the obvious though. It could be doing better then it is, and they know it. I didn't care for it, but I like the fact they released a very smooth build and are focusing a lot on frequent content patches. That's a good model for the whole genre to think about.
Edit: Apparently Aluvius deleted the message I was responding to.
I think they are doing pretty much what every MMO wouldve done in hindsight had they the money and resources for it. Instead of just leaning back satisfied with what they got, they are working hard to get everyone playing the game. Preemptive is better than too late realising your game has slowly died/stagnated. There is no second coming, once a game firmly sets itself at say 100-200k it wont get any more chances.
WoW is the exception ofc. Comparing to WoW is meaningless. Lets instead compare to WAR and AoC and Aion... yes they didnt do that well did they. I bet they wish they had the resources and possibility to go back (lol) and do something at least similar to what Rift is doing now.
Now, what this have to do with what he's implictly saying?
You spoke and spoke nothing at the same time
"It has potential"
-Second most used phrase on existence
"It sucks"
-Most used phrase on existence
LMAO at this hard! Thanks=)
I think possibly they arent seeing a huge drop in subs, but instead they have a huge turnover(right word?) and they arent reaching the sub numbers they think they possibly could. Make any sense? I think it does.
Yes lets pretend he didnt imply something
Edit: No WoW didnt have a welcome back after 4 months. Nobody did at the time. And see where that got many games. Trion is trying a new approach and I hope it pays off for them. I'm still not sure why we are talking about WoW anyways, no game has rocketed in subs like WoW.... well I dont have to tell you I'm sure you know.
I like to believe that Trion is a smart company. Not only do they respond to bugs and player feedback quickly, but they also do monthly updates, do whatever they can to try and have old, unsubbed players come back AND do whatever they can to have new players join their game.
In my point of view, that is not a sign that "OMG RIFT IS DIEIGN AND IT WULL SHUTS DOWN SERVARS IN A MONTH", but rather that they want to please their current player base and keep growing. A smart company, if anything. A very smart company.
Being, currently, a player, I can state, without fear or doubt, that the population, at least in my server, which is an RP-PVE server, far from being the most popular type, is very healthy, maybe even growing.
Only problem I see with that is by preemptively dropping the price on your product, it just reduces revenue if it's doing just fine the way it is. Granted, Best Buy and a couple bookstores do a similar thing by dropping the price of some new releases for a limited time. So I guess it's a strategy with some merit, but still seems a little odd to me in this case. If it works for them then kudos to Trion for making the right call/risk. I know I prefer seeing free trials right after release. It would've saved me a lot of money the past 5 years if every MMO did that.
Sounds excellent. Thanks for the heads up!!
As of 8:26 pm CST I still can't login and play. Not a good start to the free week offer.
I think it's interesting how they really are shooting for combining every one of the MMO genre's popular features found in other MMOs but never before all in one. You have the public questing, harvesting collectables, cross server LFGs, PVP battlegrounds, PVP Rifting, pretty typical races and class selection, just all mixed in to a talent-tree/multiclass/dual spec combination. They're doing good work. It's becoming a real hybrid MMO although it hasn't grown particularly good at my favorite features yet. Maybe I'll give it another shot after a couple more content/feature updates like this latest one.
I hope they add something like the unlockable power sets in CoX or DKs in WoW after reaching a certain level, or oldschool SWG when you had to reach some crazy list of achievements to play as a Jedi. Maybe even make one or two classes or modes with permadeath for the hardcore achiever. That would give a few more things to do beyond or aside from endgame that were/are popular in other MMOs.
QFMFT
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Wow did not need to because it did not have the same competition that RIFT does. It's brilliant for Trion to offer this to those who may have burned out after the first couple months.
At this point, I'm not sure if some of you are just repeating what you've read someplace before in error, saying it because it sounds good made up in defense, or flat out lying.. but whatever it is, it really has to stop.
I understand this is the internet and all, but even that has some limits when things are easily checked.
Reality needs to meet modern day discussions at some point.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Well the reality that you are ignoring is that the list for Rift includes all of those games still operating PLUS about eleventy billion other mmo's.*
This being the internet and all I assume you have the capability to move your mouse over to the list of mmo games on this very website yet you chose not to for some unknown reason.
*yes eleventy billion is an exaggeration, so is saying that WoW had the same level of competition at release as Rift.
Actually I guess a mod deleted it, I'm proud of my snark
I stand by my statement though, there are many folks on this forum struck with Rift Derangement Syndrome. Its an irrational hatred for one of the genre's better releases in the last few years. Personally I reserve my hateration for titles that actually deserved it such as FFXIV.
Rift is the 'next gen' MMO with everything you'd expect in a world class AAA mmo. Those games aren't.
Rift is fully polished with all the content you'd expect.
Rift has.. rifts!
Rift isn't competing vs all those older games. It's only competing against one now (WoW) as evidenced by it's advertising (We aren't in Az.. well you get the picture. If not, turn on your television) and three in the future... SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.
Since those aren't out yet, there's only one it's competing against, WoW. But they only have themselves to fault for that.. WoW didn't pick the fight.
"TO MICHAEL!"