Well the reality that you are ignoring is that the list for Rift includes all of those games still operating PLUS about eleventy billion other mmo's.*
This being the internet and all I assume you have the capability to move your mouse over to the list of mmo games on this very website yet you chose not to for some unknown reason.
*yes eleventy billion is an exaggeration, so is saying that WoW had the same level of competition at release as Rift.
Not really.
Rift is the 'next gen' MMO with everything you'd expect in a world class AAA mmo. Those games aren't.
Rift is fully polished with all the content you'd expect.
Rift has.. rifts!
Rift isn't competing vs all those older games. It's only competing against one now (WoW) as evidenced by it's advertising (We aren't in Az.. well you get the picture. If not, turn on your television) and three in the future... SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.
Since those aren't out yet, there's only one it's competing against, WoW. But they only have themselves to fault for that.. WoW didn't pick the fight.
well, im not sure about the next generation bit.. tbh.. to me it just seems like more of the same, the Rifts themselves are a decent enough mechanic - that unfortunately can be annoying as often as it is entertaining... i don't think however that the game is really a competitor for WoW, but Rift is a AAA title, something that is lacking from most of the other Fantasy MMO's.. how well it will cope when games like SW:TOR, GW2 and The Secret World, comes out.. remains to be seen, i don't think its in any danger of failing.. but.. must admit.. The Secret World is one game that might tempt me away from Rifts.. for a while at least .. and thats the issue.. Plenty of WoW players play other games from time to time, but they return to WoW, inevitably.. will Rifts have the same kind of dedication.. we'll see.. i'm optimistic.. but.. what happens when those 3 games hit the market.. its anybodies guess....
I realized how disenfranchised I am with the whole "themepark MMO" thing after getting one of these invites. At first I thought, "Awesome!" After some more thought, I got angry at the idea of logging into a game and doing almost exactly what I was doing before I left. I really just can't enjoy killing dragons and players in an instance to get shiny gear anymore.
Did WoW have a free week for people to come back after four months after launching coupled with almost 50% off sales on SUBSCRIPTIONS, not box prices?
I'm asking because you seem to be pretty familiar with WoW since 'forever'.
1.) I played WoW since launch an only quit this past March.
2.) I never said WoW offered a free week for people to come back. I said they have offered free trials. Which they have for a very long time. I also never said they reduced box prices.
3.) I did recieve an email after the 4.1 update to come back and try the game.
Well the reality that you are ignoring is that the list for Rift includes all of those games still operating PLUS about eleventy billion other mmo's.*
This being the internet and all I assume you have the capability to move your mouse over to the list of mmo games on this very website yet you chose not to for some unknown reason.
*yes eleventy billion is an exaggeration, so is saying that WoW had the same level of competition at release as Rift.
Not really.
Rift is the 'next gen' MMO with everything you'd expect in a world class AAA mmo. Those games aren't.
Rift is fully polished with all the content you'd expect.
Rift has.. rifts!
Rift isn't competing vs all those older games. It's only competing against one now (WoW) as evidenced by it's advertising (We aren't in Az.. well you get the picture. If not, turn on your television) and three in the future... SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.
Since those aren't out yet, there's only one it's competing against, WoW. But they only have themselves to fault for that.. WoW didn't pick the fight.
You're honestly saying that WoW had more mmo competition in 2004 than Rift in 2011? I mean come on, I know as you said this is the internets and all .. but .. but .. that's an insane position to stake out. You do realize that more mmo's have been released since 1999-2004, right? Again I point you to the top or left margins of this very web page where you can see entire lists of currently existing mmo's.
For bonus points in the same breath that you discount any of the games that you listed operating in 2004, you then say that Rift's only competitor is WoW .. which also released in 2004.
Really? Doesn't that sound silly? That's even crazier than asserting that WoW had more competition in 2004. You've distilled the entire mmo genre down to only Rift and WoW.
There's no reality based way to defend your statement.
Personally I reserve my hateration for titles that actually deserved it such as FFXIV.
So it's okay for YOU to hate a game that you think 'deserve it' even though people like it, but it's not okay for someone else to do that if they felt it?
As a member of the Rift community... you're making us look bad with that entitlement "better than thou" attitude of criticizing someone else game but not taking it the same way yourself.
In other words, you can dish it out but you can't take it.
Errr, I'm now confused. So are you actually defending Rift but I just misunderstood your posts?
To be clear I was poking fun at your posts because I thought they displayed an irrational hatred toward Rift. If that wasn't the case then I apologize to you and the 328 people who liked FFXIV.
p.s. No I don't really apologize, FFXIV is a horrible, horrible game ... its hard to have half price sub promotions when your product is so horrible you couldn't even charge money for it in the first place hehe.
the average game maker would make more money if they pooled their game together then try to own market like wow
imagine you pay say 15 $ month but the pool of game is say rift,mortal, etcimagine they get their share etc
make it like a stack of 4 each so for 15$ a month you choose the 4 you like and just pay the monthly +the buying cost of the game you play of cuarse.each game maker would make less per game but i bet they would make more in the end cuase more player would be there!soe does it .if it was bad i bet they wouldnt do it!
now all we need is a system a la cable channel but for gaming (a la carte)you pay this amount for say this this and that etc!
Originally posted by Aluvius Originally posted by popinjay
Originally posted by Aluvius
Well the reality that you are ignoring is that the list for Rift includes all of those games still operating PLUS about eleventy billion other mmo's.* This being the internet and all I assume you have the capability to move your mouse over to the list of mmo games on this very website yet you chose not to for some unknown reason.
*yes eleventy billion is an exaggeration, so is saying that WoW had the same level of competition at release as Rift.
Not really.
Rift is the 'next gen' MMO with everything you'd expect in a world class AAA mmo. Those games aren't. Rift is fully polished with all the content you'd expect.
Rift has.. rifts!
Rift isn't competing vs all those older games. It's only competing against one now (WoW) as evidenced by it's advertising (We aren't in Az.. well you get the picture. If not, turn on your television) and three in the future... SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.
Since those aren't out yet, there's only one it's competing against, WoW. But they only have themselves to fault for that.. WoW didn't pick the fight.
You're honestly saying that WoW had more mmo competition in 2004 than Rift in 2011? I mean come on, I know as you said this is the internets and all .. but .. but .. that's an insane position to stake out. You do realize that more mmo's have been released since 1999-2004, right? Again I point you to the top or left margins of this very web page where you can see entire lists of currently existing mmo's.
For bonus points in the same breath that you discount any of the games that you listed operating in 2004, you then say that Rift's only competitor is WoW .. which also released in 2004.
Really? Doesn't that sound silly? That's even crazier than asserting that WoW had more competition in 2004. You've distilled the entire mmo genre down to only Rift and WoW.
There's no reality based way to defend your statement. Trion launched RIFT in March, with NO competition around it. Games before it (FFXIV, DCUO etc) all crashed out and bombed. RIFT has had an absolutely clean run with the recent exception of Firelands from WoW.
Every other game out is old and dated that is worth playing. Name a game in the last three years that was actually competition to RIFT AND was fun to play with good sub numbers?
Look at those dates I listed (which you obviously didn't). WoW launched right in the THICK of all the games that were brand new. All the games you are talking about WoW went head to head with them all from the word GO.
Seriously, RIFT has no competition now, but in less than 6 months or so, we are going to see exactly how well RIFT can stand up to true competition with brand new games coming.
Errr, I'm now confused. So are you actually defending Rift but I just misunderstood your posts?
To be clear I was poking fun at your posts because I thought they displayed an irrational hatred toward Rift. If that wasn't the case then I apologize to you and the 328 people who liked FFXIV.
p.s. No I don't really apologize, FFXIV is a horrible, horrible game ... its hard to have half price sub promotions when your product is so horrible you couldn't even charge money for it in the first place hehe.
Well at least you finally admit to being confused. Now we are getting someplace.
I'm not defending OR advocating RIFT which is what you don't understand. I don't tell people to 'buy it' or 'don't buy it'. I figure if they are paying the sub, then they are adult enough to read reviews and take a trial.
See, in your world everything seems to be black and white. You either hate RIFT or you love it. You are either defending it or attacking it. There is no grey zone as often the case for fanbois. You have the George Bush mentality of "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" type of nonsense logic.
Being critical and pointing out a game's faults, shortcomings, failures and goofs isn't about partisan viewing. It's about telling the truth as a person sees it. This is the same way to someone who points out a game's strengths, triumphs, achievements and worth. You don't have to be saying all good things because this is a RIFT forum so you can 'fit in'.
That's just too high school of a mentality and most adults have long gotten past that.
I loved FFXI very much. It's the longest game I ever played and based on the fun and community I experienced there, I bought FFXIV and figured it would be better. I was shocked when it wasn't even close.
FFXIV was a game with no soul, no core, and no direction. Things were broken, buggy and incoherent. The schemes they put in place made no sense (fatigue) and the grind wasn't enjoyable like the grind in FFXI. They did so many things wrong that the only thing I can say they did right was update the graphics and scenery.. and most of that was copypasta. FFXIV was stillborn.. and I'm a fan of the series and can say that.
So, if I can say that about that, I sure as hell can point out things in RIFT as well because I'm not here to appeal to your sense of fairplay or be in the same 'gang' as you kissing a company's butt.
I'm a customer with a six month subscription, and I'll say what I damn well please.
Originally posted by natuxatu Rift is already having a welcome back week.. that doesn't sound good.. but w/e
hm maybe i'll try it.. see what it's about... downloading now >.> why not.
They have some interesting changes proposed. If they don't end up like SOE and can't deliver because of one thing or another, they could have a pretty good game by the time it's all said and done.
Right now though, the style is kind of flat and mundane. So anyone resubbing the game after playing for awhile is pretty much paying for potential of what they say is coming out. Anyone brand new could pretty much play now and take two months to do most of RIFT and be ready when Hammerknell hits with new stuff.
People in-game are kind of bopping around right now and crying about two things:
1) The new PvP limit raises to R7-8 will absolutely crush anyone starting Pvp when it starts in kind of a Warhammer endgame fashion and..
2) The cross server shard system coming is going to 'wreck the community' because people will start ninjalooting.
I think the cross shard whiners are crybabies actually or some kind of elite purists poopsockers, but I think the PvPer CERTAINLY have a valid point about R6's now hitting R8 and smashing everyone else under R6.
I saw that thing in Warhammer plain as day with Renown... new players simply could not compete and basically had to 'die' their way up the ranks.
Rift is already having a welcome back week.. that doesn't sound good.. but w/e
hm maybe i'll try it.. see what it's about... downloading now >.> why not.
They have some interesting changes proposed. If they don't end up like SOE and can't deliver because of one thing or another, they could have a pretty good game by the time it's all said and done.
Right now though, the style is kind of flat and mundane. So anyone resubbing the game after playing for awhile is pretty much paying for potential of what they say is coming out. Anyone brand new could pretty much play now and take two months to do most of RIFT and be ready when Hammerknell hits with new stuff.
People in-game are kind of bopping around right now and crying about two things:
1) The new PvP limit raises to R7-8 will absolutely crush anyone starting Pvp when it starts in kind of a Warhammer endgame fashion and..
2) The cross server shard system coming is going to 'wreck the community' because people will start ninjalooting.
I think the cross shard whiners are crybabies actually or some kind of elite purists poopsockers, but I think the PvPer CERTAINLY have a valid point about R6's now hitting R8 and smashing everyone else under R6.
I saw that thing in Warhammer plain as day with Renown... new players simply could not compete and basically had to 'die' their way up the ranks.
This is a problem I've highlighted before that with the way that Rift is designed it will find it difficult to expand its content horizontally to give leveling a much more expansive feel. Trion have missed the point to an MMO where the vast majority of players enjoy the leveling part of the genre, games like WOW. EQ2, LotRO have multiple leveling paths with distinct lore to make you feel like your on a completely different story than before, if Trion started adding in different leveling paths they would have to rewrite the entire early game as its so linear in its direction. So they can only add content vertically with more tiers of PvP and gear, this is why I say its a very poorly executed design, Trion have misjudged what MMO players want from an MMO and as you say Popinjay by the time they start adding extra things to do in Rift the competition in P2P games will be out and I'm afraid it goodbye Rift or Freemium.
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I don't see the point, the game can't changed that much since launch. They really should have waited until a year after launch at least.
With all the sales, server closures and now this it seems they are hurting for subs and need to pull all the stops out, but as you say the game cannot have changed so much in 4 months, but it does one thing, keeps Rift in the headlines on gaming sites another solely PR move from Trion.
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Well, since it had been a while since I had played RIFT I said to myself "well..why not? Hey its free!"
Rift seems to be a good idea that isn't working out so well. Before I begin on a rant I will stop and compose myself. I was rather upset after spending around an hour in the free return. First of all, the server I was on was changed into a trial server. Great way to start my comeback, had to transfer my toons one by one, and not to the server I wanted. No, that server was blocked off. No biggie, I changed from Dimroot to Shatterbone and tried to play my good old 50 Guardian Cleric. Wrong, I was not able to select that character. Not sure why, but I wasn't. No problem, I decided, just another Rift-glitch, I have been on since beta and have seen the ugly of the game, so, I'll just play my 40 Guardian rogue. Ok, check, I can select the rogue. But, then I started thinking before I launched the character, what about my other toons? I tried my 30 Defiant rogue and I could select him, tried my 15 Guardian Warrior, sure enough, I could select him, then tried my 13 Defiant Cleric and no go. I noticed that the two middle toons in the list I could not select. Well, that is just odd, so I log out and try to search any reason why I could not select some of my toons.
I found no reasons available. I checked my system for any issues thinking "maybe its my mouse?" So I launch Minecraft and click around, yep, mouse works. I delete my Defiant Cleric (he was so low that I could redo that in a few hours) and then try again to select my 50 Cleric. No go, except now, I can't select my Guardian Warriow. By now, I am pissed and say screw it and create a new toon.
I create a new Defiant Cleric and try to customize the characters look. All of the controls to change the look of the toon are disabled. Yes, disabled, I couldn't click on any of them and they were grayed out. I exit the game and relaunch it and try again, same thing. "WTF?!" I say to myself as I throw in the name Vvash (all mine are Vv toons and Vash the Stampede is an alright character) and start the game. So now I have a toon that I created cause I couldn't access my already started toon and also, the toon doesn't look the way I want him to. Grinding my teeth together I proceed on throwing a few choice words at the game.
All seems well as I start up and begin eating the NPCs for lunch with an cruel grin on the whole time. Then I get to select my second soul. The menu comes up to select it and I can only click on 3 of the available and the preview for them takes 3-4 clicks to launch them. Once again, I grind my teeth after a few more clicks of exasperation and say a few more choice words and click on Shaman. I play a two more levels and get to a sub boss fight and a few people join my public group. Normally, I would have no problem, I don't mind helping at all. Heck, I am a tank after all. We knock out the quest with ease (it is an easy solo mission anyhow) and I run off to turn in the quest. By now, I am ready to leave the group, (I usually roll solo anyhow) and right click on my avatar and try to select "Leave Party" but the option is disabled. Incredulously I look again and begin fuming as more people join the group. I log off the game and then login again. I am still in the group. I had forgotten that it is persistant. I run my toon back to town and exit the game.
All in all, RIFT is still a decent game. I started playing in Beta and it was buggy. Then I played after the release (I was on the jumpstart) and the game was great. I started a guild "Pain Apostles" and we began running the game like mad men (and women). We all slowly left the game, I was the last one left when I departed. The opportunity to start again after so long seemed like a great chance to see how well they changed the game and if I would like it more. Well, Trion, I must say I am rather disappointed. The game is the same, just more buggy and more annoying. I want to really say this game is for me, but it is just too unpredictable with each patch.
To all who can play without errors or issues, more power to you. I can't seem to get the game to run well now and am not willing to spend time researching it this time around and fixing it like I did last time. This time, it's just not worth it. Guess I will go back to Minecraft and be bored. At least I can click on everything.
Dev tracker post on the Rift forums said hold tight, the emails went out a bit early, they are still activating everyone's accounts to utilize this.
But the really cool news out of Rift today is what they have in patch 1.4
PVP Rifts! Cross Shard
The horse has bolted, sunshine. The changes in 1.4 should have been available at launch, but unfortunately, Rift became just another snoozefest at level cap.
Will anybody ever learn how to properly release a AAA MMO? The first company to make a good fantasy MMO with content to feed the end-game, will make a fortune. Adding content 4 months after release is just not acceptable any more.
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well, im not sure about the next generation bit.. tbh.. to me it just seems like more of the same, the Rifts themselves are a decent enough mechanic - that unfortunately can be annoying as often as it is entertaining... i don't think however that the game is really a competitor for WoW, but Rift is a AAA title, something that is lacking from most of the other Fantasy MMO's.. how well it will cope when games like SW:TOR, GW2 and The Secret World, comes out.. remains to be seen, i don't think its in any danger of failing.. but.. must admit.. The Secret World is one game that might tempt me away from Rifts.. for a while at least .. and thats the issue.. Plenty of WoW players play other games from time to time, but they return to WoW, inevitably.. will Rifts have the same kind of dedication.. we'll see.. i'm optimistic.. but.. what happens when those 3 games hit the market.. its anybodies guess....
I realized how disenfranchised I am with the whole "themepark MMO" thing after getting one of these invites. At first I thought, "Awesome!" After some more thought, I got angry at the idea of logging into a game and doing almost exactly what I was doing before I left. I really just can't enjoy killing dragons and players in an instance to get shiny gear anymore.
1.) I played WoW since launch an only quit this past March.
2.) I never said WoW offered a free week for people to come back. I said they have offered free trials. Which they have for a very long time. I also never said they reduced box prices.
3.) I did recieve an email after the 4.1 update to come back and try the game.
You're honestly saying that WoW had more mmo competition in 2004 than Rift in 2011? I mean come on, I know as you said this is the internets and all .. but .. but .. that's an insane position to stake out. You do realize that more mmo's have been released since 1999-2004, right? Again I point you to the top or left margins of this very web page where you can see entire lists of currently existing mmo's.
For bonus points in the same breath that you discount any of the games that you listed operating in 2004, you then say that Rift's only competitor is WoW .. which also released in 2004.
Really? Doesn't that sound silly? That's even crazier than asserting that WoW had more competition in 2004. You've distilled the entire mmo genre down to only Rift and WoW.
There's no reality based way to defend your statement.
Errr, I'm now confused. So are you actually defending Rift but I just misunderstood your posts?
To be clear I was poking fun at your posts because I thought they displayed an irrational hatred toward Rift. If that wasn't the case then I apologize to you and the 328 people who liked FFXIV.
p.s. No I don't really apologize, FFXIV is a horrible, horrible game ... its hard to have half price sub promotions when your product is so horrible you couldn't even charge money for it in the first place hehe.
the average game maker would make more money if they pooled their game together then try to own market like wow
imagine you pay say 15 $ month but the pool of game is say rift,mortal, etcimagine they get their share etc
make it like a stack of 4 each so for 15$ a month you choose the 4 you like and just pay the monthly +the buying cost of the game you play of cuarse.each game maker would make less per game but i bet they would make more in the end cuase more player would be there!soe does it .if it was bad i bet they wouldnt do it!
now all we need is a system a la cable channel but for gaming (a la carte)you pay this amount for say this this and that etc!
ummm open world pvp....yummy :-)
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
Rift is the 'next gen' MMO with everything you'd expect in a world class AAA mmo. Those games aren't.
Rift is fully polished with all the content you'd expect.
Rift has.. rifts!
Rift isn't competing vs all those older games. It's only competing against one now (WoW) as evidenced by it's advertising (We aren't in Az.. well you get the picture. If not, turn on your television) and three in the future... SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.
Since those aren't out yet, there's only one it's competing against, WoW. But they only have themselves to fault for that.. WoW didn't pick the fight.
You're honestly saying that WoW had more mmo competition in 2004 than Rift in 2011? I mean come on, I know as you said this is the internets and all .. but .. but .. that's an insane position to stake out. You do realize that more mmo's have been released since 1999-2004, right? Again I point you to the top or left margins of this very web page where you can see entire lists of currently existing mmo's.
For bonus points in the same breath that you discount any of the games that you listed operating in 2004, you then say that Rift's only competitor is WoW .. which also released in 2004.
Really? Doesn't that sound silly? That's even crazier than asserting that WoW had more competition in 2004. You've distilled the entire mmo genre down to only Rift and WoW.
There's no reality based way to defend your statement.
Trion launched RIFT in March, with NO competition around it. Games before it (FFXIV, DCUO etc) all crashed out and bombed. RIFT has had an absolutely clean run with the recent exception of Firelands from WoW.
Every other game out is old and dated that is worth playing. Name a game in the last three years that was actually competition to RIFT AND was fun to play with good sub numbers?
Look at those dates I listed (which you obviously didn't). WoW launched right in the THICK of all the games that were brand new. All the games you are talking about WoW went head to head with them all from the word GO.
Seriously, RIFT has no competition now, but in less than 6 months or so, we are going to see exactly how well RIFT can stand up to true competition with brand new games coming.
"TO MICHAEL!"
I'm not defending OR advocating RIFT which is what you don't understand. I don't tell people to 'buy it' or 'don't buy it'. I figure if they are paying the sub, then they are adult enough to read reviews and take a trial.
See, in your world everything seems to be black and white. You either hate RIFT or you love it. You are either defending it or attacking it. There is no grey zone as often the case for fanbois. You have the George Bush mentality of "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" type of nonsense logic.
Being critical and pointing out a game's faults, shortcomings, failures and goofs isn't about partisan viewing. It's about telling the truth as a person sees it. This is the same way to someone who points out a game's strengths, triumphs, achievements and worth. You don't have to be saying all good things because this is a RIFT forum so you can 'fit in'.
That's just too high school of a mentality and most adults have long gotten past that.
I loved FFXI very much. It's the longest game I ever played and based on the fun and community I experienced there, I bought FFXIV and figured it would be better. I was shocked when it wasn't even close.
FFXIV was a game with no soul, no core, and no direction. Things were broken, buggy and incoherent. The schemes they put in place made no sense (fatigue) and the grind wasn't enjoyable like the grind in FFXI. They did so many things wrong that the only thing I can say they did right was update the graphics and scenery.. and most of that was copypasta. FFXIV was stillborn.. and I'm a fan of the series and can say that.
So, if I can say that about that, I sure as hell can point out things in RIFT as well because I'm not here to appeal to your sense of fairplay or be in the same 'gang' as you kissing a company's butt.
I'm a customer with a six month subscription, and I'll say what I damn well please.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Rift is already having a welcome back week.. that doesn't sound good.. but w/e
hm maybe i'll try it.. see what it's about... downloading now >.> why not.
Right now though, the style is kind of flat and mundane. So anyone resubbing the game after playing for awhile is pretty much paying for potential of what they say is coming out. Anyone brand new could pretty much play now and take two months to do most of RIFT and be ready when Hammerknell hits with new stuff.
People in-game are kind of bopping around right now and crying about two things:
1) The new PvP limit raises to R7-8 will absolutely crush anyone starting Pvp when it starts in kind of a Warhammer endgame fashion and..
2) The cross server shard system coming is going to 'wreck the community' because people will start ninjalooting.
I think the cross shard whiners are crybabies actually or some kind of elite purists poopsockers, but I think the PvPer CERTAINLY have a valid point about R6's now hitting R8 and smashing everyone else under R6.
I saw that thing in Warhammer plain as day with Renown... new players simply could not compete and basically had to 'die' their way up the ranks.
"TO MICHAEL!"
This is a problem I've highlighted before that with the way that Rift is designed it will find it difficult to expand its content horizontally to give leveling a much more expansive feel. Trion have missed the point to an MMO where the vast majority of players enjoy the leveling part of the genre, games like WOW. EQ2, LotRO have multiple leveling paths with distinct lore to make you feel like your on a completely different story than before, if Trion started adding in different leveling paths they would have to rewrite the entire early game as its so linear in its direction. So they can only add content vertically with more tiers of PvP and gear, this is why I say its a very poorly executed design, Trion have misjudged what MMO players want from an MMO and as you say Popinjay by the time they start adding extra things to do in Rift the competition in P2P games will be out and I'm afraid it goodbye Rift or Freemium.
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What? Already?
I don't see the point, the game can't changed that much since launch. They really should have waited until a year after launch at least.
With all the sales, server closures and now this it seems they are hurting for subs and need to pull all the stops out, but as you say the game cannot have changed so much in 4 months, but it does one thing, keeps Rift in the headlines on gaming sites another solely PR move from Trion.
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Well, since it had been a while since I had played RIFT I said to myself "well..why not? Hey its free!"
Rift seems to be a good idea that isn't working out so well. Before I begin on a rant I will stop and compose myself. I was rather upset after spending around an hour in the free return. First of all, the server I was on was changed into a trial server. Great way to start my comeback, had to transfer my toons one by one, and not to the server I wanted. No, that server was blocked off. No biggie, I changed from Dimroot to Shatterbone and tried to play my good old 50 Guardian Cleric. Wrong, I was not able to select that character. Not sure why, but I wasn't. No problem, I decided, just another Rift-glitch, I have been on since beta and have seen the ugly of the game, so, I'll just play my 40 Guardian rogue. Ok, check, I can select the rogue. But, then I started thinking before I launched the character, what about my other toons? I tried my 30 Defiant rogue and I could select him, tried my 15 Guardian Warrior, sure enough, I could select him, then tried my 13 Defiant Cleric and no go. I noticed that the two middle toons in the list I could not select. Well, that is just odd, so I log out and try to search any reason why I could not select some of my toons.
I found no reasons available. I checked my system for any issues thinking "maybe its my mouse?" So I launch Minecraft and click around, yep, mouse works. I delete my Defiant Cleric (he was so low that I could redo that in a few hours) and then try again to select my 50 Cleric. No go, except now, I can't select my Guardian Warriow. By now, I am pissed and say screw it and create a new toon.
I create a new Defiant Cleric and try to customize the characters look. All of the controls to change the look of the toon are disabled. Yes, disabled, I couldn't click on any of them and they were grayed out. I exit the game and relaunch it and try again, same thing. "WTF?!" I say to myself as I throw in the name Vvash (all mine are Vv toons and Vash the Stampede is an alright character) and start the game. So now I have a toon that I created cause I couldn't access my already started toon and also, the toon doesn't look the way I want him to. Grinding my teeth together I proceed on throwing a few choice words at the game.
All seems well as I start up and begin eating the NPCs for lunch with an cruel grin on the whole time. Then I get to select my second soul. The menu comes up to select it and I can only click on 3 of the available and the preview for them takes 3-4 clicks to launch them. Once again, I grind my teeth after a few more clicks of exasperation and say a few more choice words and click on Shaman. I play a two more levels and get to a sub boss fight and a few people join my public group. Normally, I would have no problem, I don't mind helping at all. Heck, I am a tank after all. We knock out the quest with ease (it is an easy solo mission anyhow) and I run off to turn in the quest. By now, I am ready to leave the group, (I usually roll solo anyhow) and right click on my avatar and try to select "Leave Party" but the option is disabled. Incredulously I look again and begin fuming as more people join the group. I log off the game and then login again. I am still in the group. I had forgotten that it is persistant. I run my toon back to town and exit the game.
All in all, RIFT is still a decent game. I started playing in Beta and it was buggy. Then I played after the release (I was on the jumpstart) and the game was great. I started a guild "Pain Apostles" and we began running the game like mad men (and women). We all slowly left the game, I was the last one left when I departed. The opportunity to start again after so long seemed like a great chance to see how well they changed the game and if I would like it more. Well, Trion, I must say I am rather disappointed. The game is the same, just more buggy and more annoying. I want to really say this game is for me, but it is just too unpredictable with each patch.
To all who can play without errors or issues, more power to you. I can't seem to get the game to run well now and am not willing to spend time researching it this time around and fixing it like I did last time. This time, it's just not worth it. Guess I will go back to Minecraft and be bored. At least I can click on everything.
WinnTech
The horse has bolted, sunshine. The changes in 1.4 should have been available at launch, but unfortunately, Rift became just another snoozefest at level cap.
Will anybody ever learn how to properly release a AAA MMO? The first company to make a good fantasy MMO with content to feed the end-game, will make a fortune. Adding content 4 months after release is just not acceptable any more.
You would not have to have a welcome back week if you were not loosing subs. This stinks just like the old welcome back weeks in Lotro.
All this tells me they loosing subs left and right and grasping at straws trying to get previous subscribers to come back to try new stuff.
All I can do is laugh.