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Why Torchlight 2 will be better than Diablo 3
ThomasN7
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1. No Real Money Auction house.
2. Torchlight 2 is modable.
3. Torchlight 2 will have superior character customization.
4. Lan is supported.
5. Single player offline play is supported.
6. No gold farmers!
7. Matt Uelmen is doing the Torchlight 2 soundtrack.
8. It will be much cheaper to buy compared to Diablo 3.
9. Better loot
10. Runic games has 2 of the original creators of Diablo games, they know arpgs!
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You have opened the floodgates!!!!!!!!!
BOOYAKA!
i'll prolly play both.
Would of happened illegally if they did not implement it themselves. Time to get over it.
1. This doesn't make it better, just adds another limitation, yet theres no part of TL2 that could merit cash spending.
2. This is a perk, but doesn't make game a better than game b, TL2 is still a Diablo Clone...
3. will it? how so?
4. *Shrugs* just play online... the Off-Line lan party isn't as popular as it once was.
5. This is good.
6. This is usually a sign of a game not having value, therefore not making it better than something else.
7. No Opinion
8. Game pricing can be a pleasant thing, definately not a definitive object of making item a better than item b.
9. How would you know this? References?
10. Cool, but games aren't made by 2 people, most games coming out have some devs from all-star titles, doesn't ensure anything.
If you have any references to backup your claims i'd be glad to check them out otherwise I'm just going to assume this is rage because Blizzard conducts business in the way others will also start doing so to protect their wallets. Like it or not.
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uhm... yea... well.
if you say so ^^
moddable and lan support? easy work for every (wannabe) hacker eh?
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Consider yourself rebuttal'd.
1. Not in game but on the internets there will be plenty of places to buy gear / gold
2. Great point
3. Maybe
4. 80% of the people who buy diablo 3 dont care because they dont have friends to lan with.
5. Who wants to play diablo alone? lame
6. How so???? dream on my friend
7. Cool story
8. Sucks to be poor? most people will shell out the extra 20 to buy from the big guy
9. You have no idea what the loot is like in either game
10. And diablo 3 has the rest....
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Zzzzzz...neither game has been released so how can you even know? everything you know about either game is based off what the company allows to be leaked to the public to create that much more hype for their respective game.
Dude you really need to stop speaking for everyone else, mods are not worthless. In fact they made the fallout games and Elder Scrolls series way better than they would have been without mods. In fact mods helped the replay ability of these games by a lot. So to say mods is worthless is completely idiotic, just because you do not see value in them does not mean thousands of other people that do are wrong. The fact that you can say this shows how clueless you really are when it comes to the overall gaming culture and not just Blizzard games.
Ummmm, no if you actually do some research you would find most of the people that made Diablo 1 and 2 do not work for Blizzard anymore.
wow really Diablo 1 has better game play really? What have you been smoking I want some!
my crystal ball tell me that horde of chinese farmer will prosper from the RM auction house, well more sales and transaction fee for blizzard then *sacrasm*hehe
Because it will be more like the Diablo we've come to love than D3 itself will be, plain and simple :P
Sales will likely reflect the opposite though. Mostly since blizz has quite a flock of lemmings from their most recent games alone, there are probably just as many who agree with D3's changes as there are those who don't, and of course the real die-hard Diablo fans that will play it for namesake alone.
But us playing TL2 instead will no we are playing the superior game
Even if we're considered somewhat hipsters for liking the less popular game more lol.
get real, d2 was way better, and way outsold it.
"Dude you really need to stop speaking for everyone else"
lawls, sorry truth hurts. 99% of mods are utter crap, and 99% of people who buy the game won't touch them with a ten foot pole.
Having played D1, D2 LOD online, and Torchlight all three....I feel qualified to state my opinion. lol
I think it's pretty bold to proclaim Runic will make something better than Blizzard. Big difference in financial backing there, for one, and the game mechanics of D3 are going to be far more complex than that of T2. HOWEVER....having said that....I am sick to death of Blizzard and would rather give my money to Runic, SO....I plan on playing T2. But I don't delude myself into thinking it's for sure "better"....just makes my conscience feel better to spend my money there, that's all.
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By that logic Wolfenstien 3D is the best FPS because it spawned the FPS genre, and no other FPS game has come close to replicating its success. I guess I will never agree with you on this, the gaming genre has advanced so much from where it was when Diablo 1 and Wolfenstein came out, that those games are just things to look back on with nostalgia.
AI has improved so much from those days, texture quality has improved, game coding as improved with game design. Games now have physics and feel more like a real setting you can emerge yourself into. I would not give up those advances for all the Diablo 1 like games in the world. Just thinking about how dumb the AI was back then, makes me want to throw up!
You are so full of yourself and your Blizzard is god crap that you cannot see beyond your own bias view. 99% of mods are crap; you really have no clue do you. Let’s see all the games that are out right now that were created by mods and then eventually moved into the main stream. DOTA, Day of Defeat, Counter Strike, Battlefield Desert combat, Red Orchestra, Garry’s mod, Black Mesa, Team fortress, Portal, Left 4 Dead, Natural Selection 2, Spring, Tatical Ops, Killing Floor, and Eve of Destruction.
Just because you have a much gaming culture as an ant, don’t try and speak for 99% of gamers. Otherwise these game or the games they spawned from would not exist, and here is a fun fact for you the people that made these mods usually got hired by people in the gaming industry. Hence why value published Portal and Left 4 dead, they saw what these kids were doing with mods and hired them to make a full game out of it. And guess what without mods that would have never happened. So keep your blind Blizzard fandom to yourself unless you know what you are talking about, and here you have no freaking clue.
Better? Possibly.
More successful? Doubtful.
Will make more money than D3? Not a chance.
I think the devs can live with the end result.
Strange, not to argue with anyone here, but pretty much every gamer I know has used or is still playing mods on the previously listed games as well as others...as for Torchlight 2 vs. Diablo 3...i'll sit this one out
The truth is that those 1% of mods that aren't 'crap' turn out to be ten times better than the original.
The first Half-Life engine was a quake engine mod, and then later turned into a game...
Which supported mods and spawned Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat which were also ported into full games.
Team Fortress was also originally a quake mod, and ported into TF Classic for the Half-Life engine, and then later TF2 under the Source engine.
Indie companies have been spawned out of good mods, Valve being a perfect example of this.
Personally I'd rather the option for mods to exist. The only reason why Blizzard is expressly against mods is so they can further force players into their vanilla RMT auction house game so they can try to milk players with additional fees.
All in all Diablo 3 will still outsell Torchlight 2, but that's because the majority of gamers, like with most any consumer, is easily swayed by marketing gimmicks and pop culture fads, which Blizzard is great at. Torchlight 2 will be an overall more superior game, and in fact be all the more so for the fact that most of the kiddies will be too busy button mashing in Diablo 3.
Actually in specific terms the high texture pack & game FX packs that people have created as mods for TL1 have extended the life of the game for a lot of people by continually improving the graphics.
There are a lot of good Mods for TL1, sadly the one I really want is online co-op
No way will T2 be better than D3 - absolutely no way. That said, I'll be getting them both because I am an RPG hoarder.
What is the obsession people have with mods now?
Didn't use any for d1
Didn't use any for d2
And from what i've seen not gonna need any for d3
Exactly what mods were there for d1 and d2 that are so damn important?
It's additional (usually free) content. What's there not to like about it?
That's untrue. Diablo was pretty much based on the ROGUE genre of games, which have been around since the 1980s.
I would not be too sure of that, Blizzard’s last single player release SC2 plays like a RTS from the year 2000. It is nowhere near as complex or advanced as other RTS that are out. Not saying that is a good or bad thing, since they really designed that game for the E-sport anyway and what better way to do that then make a game everyone has been playing already for 10 years.