Yes that's right Vanguard getting more and more players by the week, I really don't know where all these are comming from but after 3 years, Vanguard world feels healthy once again, people are grouping up, people are shouting for dungeon runs.
And the best part is SOE sees this, they are planning for 2 more updates this year and bug fixing updates.
I see you in Telon
Yeah it totally has!
There's like 300 people on right now prime time. Awesome numbers!
The way I see it SOE is a business. The goal of a business is to make money, and once the business starts costing more to run than it brings in, the business closes. So SOE's goal should be to make money as well as all other game companies. So complaining that SOE only does stuff be because they see $$$$$$$$$ as a result is retarded The game is thier own, not the players, to do with as they see fit.
I myself, love Vanguard, and will probably return in another month or so. My only hope with this surge in poulation is that they either open a PVP server or patch some PVP in to the game.
you can conduct business in an ethical or unethical manner.
and ya, they can do whatever they want to the game. they can shut it down the day after they've sold it to you for $50 or after you've bought $200 worth off their online store.
doesn't mean you'll be happy about it, or buy their products again.
I'm suspicious. I don't trust SOE for crap these days. I wish I could, because I actually like their games. It just amazes me that VG gets no attention while EQ gets its 1 crappy xpac and an anniversary dungeon per year, along with regular patching and fixes. Just think if thought outside the box and found a way to migrate the EQ hardcore into VG...
Agreed, but I have believed for years that SOE bought VG just to make it die a slow death due to apathy on their part... they didn't want VG competing with their baby EQ2.
Maybe SOE has finally learned. They are finally doing some needed work on VG. it's about bloody time.
I wont play Vanguard until they make a good revamp on the game. I played it for 2 years but it need new combat, ACTION combat, not the same stand still and fight. [...]
it does sometimes see a mini wave of increased players.. but it doesnt last.
And tbh, the news of a patch here and there isnt any kind of reason to start playing seriously again. compared to other rpg's out there, the graphics are really bad now, along with 'still broken' mechanics around diplomacy and crafting.. its just not worth any kind of effort.
Even if it went free to play, compared to other free to play game it would just look pathetic.
it does sometimes see a mini wave of increased players.. but it doesnt last.
And tbh, the news of a patch here and there isnt any kind of reason to start playing seriously again. compared to other rpg's out there, the graphics are really bad now, along with 'still broken' mechanics around diplomacy and crafting.. its just not worth any kind of effort.
Even if it went free to play, compared to other free to play game it would just look pathetic.
it does sometimes see a mini wave of increased players.. but it doesnt last.
And tbh, the news of a patch here and there isnt any kind of reason to start playing seriously again. compared to other rpg's out there, the graphics are really bad now, along with 'still broken' mechanics around diplomacy and crafting.. its just not worth any kind of effort.
Even if it went free to play, compared to other free to play game it would just look pathetic.
I couldn't disagree more. I think Vanguard is one of the better looking MMO's out there. It's not as good looking as AoC and some parts of LotR. But I'm done with both of those games.
I just loaded VG back on my PC last night, and I just ran around for an hour or two looking at the countryside. The big open world gives me a sense of immersion that other MMO's just can't compete with. There is nothing like seeing something waaaaay off in the distance and knowing you can just run strait to it without hitting a fucking invisible wall.
Personally I think the only thing hurting the game is the lack of PvP and any kind of alternate character advancement. I blame SoE for that though, not Vanguard. SoE's negect of such a potentially awesome game is a true shame.
it does sometimes see a mini wave of increased players.. but it doesnt last.
And tbh, the news of a patch here and there isnt any kind of reason to start playing seriously again. compared to other rpg's out there, the graphics are really bad now, along with 'still broken' mechanics around diplomacy and crafting.. its just not worth any kind of effort.
Even if it went free to play, compared to other free to play game it would just look pathetic.
I couldn't disagree more. I think Vanguard is one of the better looking MMO's out there. It's not as good looking as AoC and some parts of LotR. But I'm done with both of those games.
I just loaded VG back on my PC last night, and I just ran around for an hour or two looking at the countryside. The big open world gives me a sense of immersion that other MMO's just can't compete with. There is nothing like seeing something waaaaay off in the distance and knowing you can just run strait to it without hitting a fucking invisible wall.
Personally I think the only thing hurting the game is the lack of PvP and any kind of alternate character advancement. I blame SoE for that though, not Vanguard. SoE's negect of such a potentially awesome game is a true shame.
My thoughts exactly but i do not believe it needs PvP, would be a nice additon though. Best immersion and PvE this side of the moon
This is indeed good news and I hope it works out. Vanguard was an excellent game and afters years of searching, gave me something reminiscent of Shadowbane (my all-time favorite). The fully open world and ruthless pvp was near and dear. The only reason we stopped playing was the lack of population. Last I recall, they were down to 1 server.
As for re-subbing, I'll mostly likely keep an eye on the game and see what happens. Hopefully things will pick up as it is a really great game.
I enjoy the game immensely although I did bypass it at launch so was left relatively unaffected by the whole initial debacle.
I actually suspended my subscription, (o_O), once I heard the good news as I'd genuinely like to see if they make good on their announced intentions.
If it falls through again then I know for sure Vanguard will never see an upgrade again whilst SoE maintains the game. Assuming they see through on their intent then there's a chance that the game can continue the revived interest on the part of gamers and we'll all be the better for it.
So go, SoE, go - you have the ball now. Pump those legs and dampen my cynicism.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
It is not lying, it's called an opinion. Graphics are very user subjective. Some people will like a particular games gaphics and some won't. As far as VG, finding the "truth" is easy: play the free trial.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
If its really tru that Vanguard is getting more people then thats great, I really used to liked this game... just couldn't bring myself to give Smedley any money.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
It is not lying, it's called an opinion. Graphics are very user subjective. Some people will like a particular games gaphics and some won't. As far as VG, finding the "truth" is easy: play the free trial.
It is subjective... However, i happen to think Vanguards armor/weapon models are better than ANYTHING out there... The weak area is the character animations and physics.. but its really not that type of game ( RIFT - action MMO bs ). As far as landscape and world goes, I think that Vanguard is the undisputed winner there however, nothing really compares.
Of course, Vanguard has a style, but to say the graphics are dated or not good is not accurate, its the more realistic style like eq/eq2/rift, not stylized like wow/tor etc.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
It is not lying, it's called an opinion. Graphics are very user subjective. Some people will like a particular games gaphics and some won't. As far as VG, finding the "truth" is easy: play the free trial.
It is subjective... However, i happen to think Vanguards armor/weapon models are better than ANYTHING out there... The weak area is the character animations and physics.. but its really not that type of game ( RIFT - action MMO bs ). As far as landscape and world goes, I think that Vanguard is the undisputed winner there however, nothing really compares.
Of course, Vanguard has a style, but to say the graphics are dated or not good is not accurate, its the more realistic style like eq/eq2/rift, not stylized like wow/tor etc.
I happen to agree with you. However, I realize some people may find the graphics "dated" or "lacking". To each their own.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
Vanguard was so far ahead of its time in graphics that it is only now, almost 5 years on, starting to look dated compared to games like Rift or Aion or the games yet to be released. The physics and animations, as mentioned, are a bit disappointing but not bad. What is most impressive is the world. How it is laid out, how vast it is, how "real" it seems inspite of the simpler textures and fewer polygons on some items. Vanguard does a much better job, with a lot less in graphics power, creating a "real" world in its scope.
Do I want better graphics in Vanguard. Oh yes, please. But, in the end, if I have to choose between invisible walls and constricting terrain that funnels you to the next quest hub but with great graphical detail or a world of wide open spaces, huge cities and traversable mountains but less graphical detail when you get close, well. I choose the later. The imagination is much better at filling in gaps than it is filling in missing world.
Vanguard was so far ahead of its time in graphics that it is only now, almost 5 years on, starting to look dated compared to games like Rift or Aion or the games yet to be released. The physics and animations, as mentioned, are a bit disappointing but not bad. What is most impressive is the world. How it is laid out, how vast it is, how "real" it seems inspite of the simpler textures and fewer polygons on some items. Vanguard does a much better job, with a lot less in graphics power, creating a "real" world in its scope.
Do I want better graphics in Vanguard. Oh yes, please. But, in the end, if I have to choose between invisible walls and constricting terrain that funnels you to the next quest hub but with great graphical detail or a world of wide open spaces, huge cities and traversable mountains but less graphical detail when you get close, well. I choose the later. The imagination is much better at filling in gaps than it is filling in missing world.
agree. The world takes the cake for sure and its not just "a pretty picture" even the towns/cities are designed so well i appreciate them quite a bit. ( as i did ironforge / stormwind /org all those years ago ).
The one thing vanguard needs the most ( techincally ) is the physics/animations.... It really feels "old" there.
Unlike EQ2 where this is kept on the 2 exchange servers here is the problem with Vanguard.
I liked it at one time as well until this hit. If it was on one server only or they had a special server for it then fine but as it stands now no thanks! I know people buy the exact same things from third party websites but most end up getting hacked anyway .
Having it available with no consequence or making it easier to allow others to do it
/Fail
Might as well allow or create bot programs for download on the vanguard website.
I play eq2 as of now and they have it for that game as well but limited to the real money servers.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
It is not lying, it's called an opinion. Graphics are very user subjective. Some people will like a particular games gaphics and some won't. As far as VG, finding the "truth" is easy: play the free trial.
It is subjective... However, i happen to think Vanguards armor/weapon models are better than ANYTHING out there... The weak area is the character animations and physics.. but its really not that type of game ( RIFT - action MMO bs ). As far as landscape and world goes, I think that Vanguard is the undisputed winner there however, nothing really compares.
Of course, Vanguard has a style, but to say the graphics are dated or not good is not accurate, its the more realistic style like eq/eq2/rift, not stylized like wow/tor etc.
I happen to agree with you. However, I realize some people may find the graphics "dated" or "lacking". To each their own.
Sure they say the graphics are outdated but how many recently games with one open world and no instances has better graphics?
I understand how they think but thier thoughts is somewhat missplaced.
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Yeah it totally has!
There's like 300 people on right now prime time. Awesome numbers!
you can conduct business in an ethical or unethical manner.
and ya, they can do whatever they want to the game. they can shut it down the day after they've sold it to you for $50 or after you've bought $200 worth off their online store.
doesn't mean you'll be happy about it, or buy their products again.
Meh, the living dead is still dead. VG has essentially been in a zombified state since launch.
Agreed, but I have believed for years that SOE bought VG just to make it die a slow death due to apathy on their part... they didn't want VG competing with their baby EQ2.
Maybe SOE has finally learned. They are finally doing some needed work on VG. it's about bloody time.
Go away.
I am extremely happy that people are playing this game, I shall be back shortly, what a great game.
it does sometimes see a mini wave of increased players.. but it doesnt last.
And tbh, the news of a patch here and there isnt any kind of reason to start playing seriously again. compared to other rpg's out there, the graphics are really bad now, along with 'still broken' mechanics around diplomacy and crafting.. its just not worth any kind of effort.
Even if it went free to play, compared to other free to play game it would just look pathetic.
Sorry you dont like it
I couldn't disagree more. I think Vanguard is one of the better looking MMO's out there. It's not as good looking as AoC and some parts of LotR. But I'm done with both of those games.
I just loaded VG back on my PC last night, and I just ran around for an hour or two looking at the countryside. The big open world gives me a sense of immersion that other MMO's just can't compete with. There is nothing like seeing something waaaaay off in the distance and knowing you can just run strait to it without hitting a fucking invisible wall.
Personally I think the only thing hurting the game is the lack of PvP and any kind of alternate character advancement. I blame SoE for that though, not Vanguard. SoE's negect of such a potentially awesome game is a true shame.
My thoughts exactly but i do not believe it needs PvP, would be a nice additon though. Best immersion and PvE this side of the moon
This is indeed good news and I hope it works out. Vanguard was an excellent game and afters years of searching, gave me something reminiscent of Shadowbane (my all-time favorite). The fully open world and ruthless pvp was near and dear. The only reason we stopped playing was the lack of population. Last I recall, they were down to 1 server.
As for re-subbing, I'll mostly likely keep an eye on the game and see what happens. Hopefully things will pick up as it is a really great game.
I'm glad this game seems to be making a come back. I always thought it should have done better then it did.
I enjoy the game immensely although I did bypass it at launch so was left relatively unaffected by the whole initial debacle.
I actually suspended my subscription, (o_O), once I heard the good news as I'd genuinely like to see if they make good on their announced intentions.
If it falls through again then I know for sure Vanguard will never see an upgrade again whilst SoE maintains the game. Assuming they see through on their intent then there's a chance that the game can continue the revived interest on the part of gamers and we'll all be the better for it.
So go, SoE, go - you have the ball now. Pump those legs and dampen my cynicism.
If anyone is considering vanguard, try it for yourself. Get to level 15 with one of the signature classes ( bloodmage / bard / psionist / disciple or others ) and see what you think.
It is amazing the crap that is said on the internet and the way it effects our own reality. The Reality of recent game launches when compared to the Reality of vanguard... vanguard wins hands down.
graphics are nothing short of breathtaking.
Classes are fantastic and well designed
Crafting is a ton of fun, best crafting other than swg imo i have ever seen
Harvesting is even fun ( never thought i would say that )
Diplomacy is something i will be trying very soon as many say its fantastic.
Looking back, if you compare the Reality of vanguard to the Promise/Marketing of many recent launches ( aoc, war, aion, rift ), vanguard would be pushed aside. Well all those games are out, most of us have tried them and most of us have moved on. Coupled with a constant dumbing-down approach to the mmo-RPG space, Vanguard is now standing out like a gem.
Your right, both sides will lie or hide the true to make their opinion. Like the graphics. Sure, the world itself is stunning and most of the creatures you fight in it are interesting. But the player characters and the armor and weapons you equip look no better than decent, OK,or fair and thats being very generous. There is nothing beautiful or breathtaking about it.
It is not lying, it's called an opinion. Graphics are very user subjective. Some people will like a particular games gaphics and some won't. As far as VG, finding the "truth" is easy: play the free trial.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
First time I saw Khal from that village you start in as I came down it was absolutely breathtaking.
If its really tru that Vanguard is getting more people then thats great, I really used to liked this game... just couldn't bring myself to give Smedley any money.
It is subjective... However, i happen to think Vanguards armor/weapon models are better than ANYTHING out there... The weak area is the character animations and physics.. but its really not that type of game ( RIFT - action MMO bs ). As far as landscape and world goes, I think that Vanguard is the undisputed winner there however, nothing really compares.
Of course, Vanguard has a style, but to say the graphics are dated or not good is not accurate, its the more realistic style like eq/eq2/rift, not stylized like wow/tor etc.
I happen to agree with you. However, I realize some people may find the graphics "dated" or "lacking". To each their own.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
Vanguard was so far ahead of its time in graphics that it is only now, almost 5 years on, starting to look dated compared to games like Rift or Aion or the games yet to be released. The physics and animations, as mentioned, are a bit disappointing but not bad. What is most impressive is the world. How it is laid out, how vast it is, how "real" it seems inspite of the simpler textures and fewer polygons on some items. Vanguard does a much better job, with a lot less in graphics power, creating a "real" world in its scope.
Do I want better graphics in Vanguard. Oh yes, please. But, in the end, if I have to choose between invisible walls and constricting terrain that funnels you to the next quest hub but with great graphical detail or a world of wide open spaces, huge cities and traversable mountains but less graphical detail when you get close, well. I choose the later. The imagination is much better at filling in gaps than it is filling in missing world.
All die, so die well.
agree. The world takes the cake for sure and its not just "a pretty picture" even the towns/cities are designed so well i appreciate them quite a bit. ( as i did ironforge / stormwind /org all those years ago ).
The one thing vanguard needs the most ( techincally ) is the physics/animations.... It really feels "old" there.
Unlike EQ2 where this is kept on the 2 exchange servers here is the problem with Vanguard.
I liked it at one time as well until this hit. If it was on one server only or they had a special server for it then fine but as it stands now no thanks! I know people buy the exact same things from third party websites but most end up getting hacked anyway .
Having it available with no consequence or making it easier to allow others to do it
/Fail
Might as well allow or create bot programs for download on the vanguard website.
I play eq2 as of now and they have it for that game as well but limited to the real money servers.
Big difference.
My 2 cents.
https://exchange.livegamer.com/vanguard/
If I see SOE cares about it, I'll return, but first, I'll check what they are really doing, not what they are promising, becouse I don't trust SOE
Sure they say the graphics are outdated but how many recently games with one open world and no instances has better graphics?
I understand how they think but thier thoughts is somewhat missplaced.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.