With CCPs income being in dollars and Euros and presumably much of their staff cost outgoings in Kroner, they should be better off due to the financial collapse.
Actually CCP employees are paid in euros if they choose to.
So far WoD seems vaporware for many... and Dust wont save them. Future is not that bright...
well DUST514 is going to be a PS3 exclusiv.. thats Epic Fail #1 right there... thats assuming it ever makes it to release.. which is far from certain... as for WoD possibly being vapourware.. i'd have to agree.. maybe they need to concentrate on Eve and ditch some of these dodgy ideas, they could end up being very expensive lessons...
I wish that Dust514 was on the PC, I'd love to jump back into the Eve universe in FPS style but it's no surprise that CCP is known for their specialized products. I think it'll be niche, which is what they're good at.
The fact after years of working on WIS/Incarna they could barely deliver one shoddy room with zero gameplay and even that one room is so shockingly coded it caused hardware failures due to heat issues just proves they can't deliver on the target they set themselves.
As a company they need scale back on their WOD/Dust plans fully support the FIS team and sort out the core game play issues fix the only product they have before it dies and then they can re-evaluate what they really want to do and more importantly what is actually achievable for them.
Selene, another memebr of the CSM and a former employee of CCP has written a blog on this http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com/2011/09/reality-check.html. It shows that Mittani is correct in saying that the CSM speak with one voice and it is an interesting view from an ex-dev on CCPs inner workings.
Alongside what Selene says in his blog above (and the entires CSM voice on this) CCP have also had a lucky break that no new AAA mmos have been released recently that would draw mass players away during this time of lack of content. With some highly anticipated MMOs nearing Beta stages soon they need to act quick before the game has a mass exodus. When a game becomes known as dying fast, rats leave the ship and little new blood is brought in to replace them.
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
Drivel.
It's the way it was implemented, coupled with the ingoring of the major part of the game (Flying in Space), coupled with the "18 months" saga, piled on top of all the previous idiocy ccps upper management have displayed that provided the perfect storm for all this.
Listening to the playerbase rather than railroading them all into playing a way a large portion of didn;t want to... It's not like people weren't screaming at them what needing looking at.....
Iterating on previous additions that were unfinished, Fixing bugs that had been in the game for YEARS, fixing obvious imbalances that even they themselves acknowledged a long time ago, making CHOICE a major part of improvements...... and many, many more.
----- Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
You are looking at this through a very limited lense. The Issue is not that people do not want walking in stations but goes back about two years.
1.The past three expansions have not had near the content of earlier EVE Expansions despite steady growth in profits for the game.
2.A Blog was released saying like 80% of Devs were working on what is basically a glorified station interface that the community kinda wanted. There would be no in space improvements for 18 months.
3.CCP said they were not going to add Cash Shops and added them. Not so bad cept a Newsletter got leaked talking about P2W Items and calling the players the Golden Goose. There response to this was a Dev Blog talking about why prices were high on current items citing Japanese $1000 Jeans(Seriously), while ignoring player concerns.
4.Players in the months up to the expansion stated pretty much unanimously that they would like a Station interface when docked, current or a new one that allows them quick access to gear without loading station enviroments. Despite this they did not do this and used a static image of the door leading to the rest of the station.
5. Incarna the Expansion touted for years as making EVE a whole new world, the one where they got 3 Sup Par Expansion because Dev Time was needed for Incarna, the Flagship release of EVE. It was one Instanced Minmatar Room. That is it, no interacting with other players which is the main thing everyone wanted, no other Captains Quarters just One Room and a Cash Shop.
/Clap Clap Clap.
Incarna is a whole new level of MMO disapointment like if Cata was a new Death Wing Pet and a Sitting Room. So Hyped up by CCP then crap.
After the players got angry CCP flew the CSM's to talk about how to fix it. They said they would release the minutes soon they were just finishing local translations... ten weeks ago. They said they'll bring back a Station Interface and no word on that.
Players being entitled bitches on the forums is always done by nobody's with a chip on there shoulder and are prombtly told where to shove that chip by the players. This is different, most of EVE's core contributers and community members are the ones speaking out. EVE has a tight Community that has a lot of love for EVE. It has been said many times by the Dev's, News Sites and Players that the Community is what makes EVE so great.
Mittens is right about this. The CSM's are here to represent the players and some are angry, most are disapointed and a lot have ether unsubbed or stopped logging on. They want to nip this in the bud and end fears about EVE. EVE Players were a happy bunch compared to most MMO's but there not anymore.
So far WoD seems vaporware for many... and Dust wont save them. Future is not that bright...
WoD doesn't seem to fit into any form of EvE SyFy universe as near as I can tell. Dust is just BS. I am betting you CCP are setting up bank accounts in the Bahamas and then just go banckrupt on everyone at some point in next year or two.
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
You are looking at this through a very limited lense. The Issue is not that people do not want walking in stations but goes back about two years.
1.The past three expansions have not had near the content of earlier EVE Expansions despite steady growth in profits for the game.
2.A Blog was released saying like 80% of Devs were working on what is basically a glorified station interface that the community kinda wanted. There would be no in space improvements for 18 months.
3.CCP said they were not going to add Cash Shops and added them. Not so bad cept a Newsletter got leaked talking about P2W Items and calling the players the Golden Goose
4.Players in the months up to the expansion stated pretty much unanimously that they would like a Station interface when docked, current or a new that allows them quick access to gear without loading station enviroments. Despite this they did not do this and used a static image rhe door leading to the rest of the station.
5. Incarna the Expansion touted for years as making EVE a whole new world, the one where they got 3 Sup Par Expansion because Dev Time was needed for Incarna, the Flagship release of EVE. It was one Instanced Minmatar Room. That is it, no interacting with other players which is the main thing everyone wanted, no other Captains Quarters just One Room and a Cash Shop.
/Clap Clap Clap.
Incarna is a whole new level of MMO disapointment like if Cata was a new Death Wing Pet and a Sitting Room. So Hyped up by CCP then crap.
After the players got angry CCP flew the CSM's to talk about how to fix it. They said they would release the minutes soon they were just finishing local translations... ten weeks ago. They said they'll bring back a Station Interface and no word on that.
Players being entitled bitches on the forums is always done by nobody's with a chip on there shoulder and are prombtly told where to shove that chip. This is different, most of EVE's core contributers and community members are the ones speaking out. EVE has a tight Community and a lot of love for EVE. It has been said many times by the Dev's, News Sites and Players that the Community is what makes EVE so great.
Mittens is right about this. The CSM's are here to represent the players and some are angry, most are disapointed and a lot have ether unsubbed or stopped logging on. They want to nip this in the bud and end fears about EVE. EVE Players were a happy bunch compared to most MMO's but there not anymore.
They should be again.
Totally correct.
My view is that WiS could have been brilliant, but there is nearly nothing to show for it after several years, so development should concentrate of FiS: This is because FiS is Eve's (and CCP's) 'bread and butter' - the central nub, and it must be continually added to with good material.
Funny how a kid like Mittani touts so many useless titles and yet seems to know so little about how game developement works, or what the original vision for EVE was several years ago. I was in beta and been around EVE as a player from the beginning and it is not 100% about the ships. The goal CCP has said time and again is to develope as immersive a universe as possible. Well guess what, that involves adding features other than how fast a trigger-happy gate camper can gank a newb.
Personally at this point I hope CCP keeps players like Mittani waiting for EVE content and finishes WoD.
It's no wonder the population in EVE is stagnant lately with how crude, vulgar, and plain ignorant most of the EVE playerbase has become, making it a challenge for any new player to find any fun in the game.
The only "feature" that was added with Incarna was the humiliatingly dreadful cash shop.
Forgive me if I am underwhelmed with this much needed alternative to the " trigger-happy gate camper" features we miss.
Try checking out the word developement. It doesn't equate to instant gratification.
Dismissing the head of a player elected organization that discusses developer prioritization because of his in-game persona is, in my opinion, absolutely daft. Regardless of your opinion of the indivual himself, the entire player elected body of the CSM appears to be in full agreement that the upper management of CCP is neglecting what is currently their sole MMO title.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the game as it is, and many player's love the current game, and the new directions CCP have picked. However, there are serious flaws with the game that have not been adressed by CCP. Some date back several years. The interview is also absolutely correct that two of the past three expansions have been very lackluster and have left very few 'new' things for player's to do.
Unlike standard theme park games were developer's design new content for player's each expansion, sandbox games deliver the environment for player's to create their own content... but once player's grow bored with the game itself, and the developer's no longer have the time to invest in growing the sandbox... things rapidly reach a point where the game will just die out.
The last few expansions have had VERY few things for player's to partake in. In theory CCP was going to totally revitalize the New Player Experience so new player's had a more streamlined way to enter the game. That content ended up taking about an hour for new player's to go through... then they were dumped in a 8-10 hour outdated tutorial system that, in some cases, directly conflicted with things that were explained in the new tutorials.
That's a small example, but if CCP cannot even spend time trying to appeal to NEW player's, it's no suprise that many of the veteran player's are feeling bored. The fact that CCP has bitten off entirely too much with their two new game releases, coupled with the absolutely horrid state of the world's finances and their obligations to stockholders to complete these new games means it's absolutely to be expected that they would ignore their flagship title.
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
That... couldn't possibly be further from the truth.
You can see on Youtube the promo video's CCP presented for that new feature back in 2007. Let me repeat that... 2007.
I'm not entirely certain what year it is now, but the vision CCP presented in 2007 looks absolutely nothing like what they actually released nearly half a decade later. Maintaining any level of excitement over a vaporware feature set, then seeing the absolute shambles of what it was released as... how could the community possibly be happy?
And that's ignoring all the overheating issues they added with their new poorly coded engine. Yes, some of those issues have been resolved, but not all... not by any means.
Further, CCP promised to iterate on their new Walking in Stations system, but the closest we've come to seeing the other portions of it is from a NY fashion designer working for Lady Gaga... apparently CCP was willing to share their product with a fashion show... but not their paying customers.
Soo... After reading that it seems that WoW is not the only place that has paraniod and stingy vets ready to blame anything then themself for the facrt that they love has gone stale. And in turn has the vets still playing using the fact to propell their own agenda.
That curve looks pretty normal for a game of that age.
You do not know what your talking about.
Does WoW have two free expansions a year ?
Has the play style of WoW change since release?
Answers no.
They have nothing in comparrison. The players in Eve love the game they just want CCP to listen instead of concentrating on fluff to cater to the "my little poney" crowd. Like the ones who play WoW.
I play Eve and personaly I do not want it to be flooded by WoW players. Lets keep things in space. Incarnna is a fail.
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
You have no clue ...
We were shown videos of WiS prior to Apocrypha that featured a WHOLE STATION !!! Hillmar himself was presenting the environment with bars, palyer run shops, corporation/alliance war rooms etc. IT WAS AWESOME !!! Even then people protested against allocating DEV and server resources to this because we had performance and balance problems.
Fast forward to Incarna. We got ONE ROOM where you are alone and cannot do anything new. Badly coded as well since the performance was/is abysmal. We still have the balance problems (some got worse) but no new content and worse client performance. And declining PCU.
Now we should shut up and quielty pay for the game ? The Mittani and the CSM have my full support on this.
So far WoD seems vaporware for many... and Dust wont save them. Future is not that bright...
Actually I think they are aware of the....
I have to call BS on this!
Because If this is the case then CCP will have to lose a crap load of players to satisfy your fantasy. The OP is right and its not because i have been playing the game from 2003. I dont like Goons ... never have. But the OP is on the CSM and we did elect him so he does represent the players in this regard.
And if you did not vote then dont complain about it not being so... to thoughs that have not! Because many have been to lazy to make there voices heard in CMS voteing ... but would complain about the condidates.
"Walking in stations was necessary to actually show people they had avatars and not spaceships. Despite all the vets crying it has affected them little."
Thats not it... I like the idea but not at the expence of the core gameplay. I think its important to develop this idea but not try and skin the players with the NEX $70 a pop store. They give me the feeling that i am being SHROOD HARD ... I mean $70 for an item.
But hey there is fool born everyday ... and thats there target market!
"So all in all, Mittani is right to fear what is coming, his alliance is one of the ones that will take the blunt of it, but it will open up the game to a lot more players and CCP knows they really have no choice if they intend to grow the game."
What fantastic SPECULATION on your part. If all the vets left ..what do you think would happen to the EvE economy ... and how many new players would have to replace them. ..I can see your a NEW player .. noob.
..well said Mittani ... i have already voted with my subs so i cant support you on the offical EvE forums ... GO CSM !
So far WoD seems vaporware for many... and Dust wont save them. Future is not that bright...
Actually I think they are aware of the....
I have to call BS on this!
Because If this is the case then CCP will have to lose a crap load of players to satisfy your fantasy. The OP is right and its not because i have been playing the game from 2003. I dont like Goons ... never have. But the OP is on the CSM and we did elect him so he does represent the players in this regard.
And if you did not vote then dont complain about it not being so... to thoughs that have not! Because many have been to lazy to make there voices heard in CMS voteing ... but would complain about the condidates.
"Walking in stations was necessary to actually show people they had avatars and not spaceships. Despite all the vets crying it has affected them little."
Thats not it... I like the idea but not at the expence of the core gameplay. I think its important to develop this idea but not try and skin the players with the NEX $70 a pop store. They give me the feeling that i am being SHROOD HARD ... I mean $70 for an item.
But hey there is fool born everyday ... and thats there target market!
"So all in all, Mittani is right to fear what is coming, his alliance is one of the ones that will take the blunt of it, but it will open up the game to a lot more players and CCP knows they really have no choice if they intend to grow the game."
What fantastic SPECULATION on your part. If all the vets left ..what do you think would happen to the EvE economy ... and how many new players would have to replace them. ..I can see your a NEW player .. noob.
..well said Mittani ... i have already voted with my subs so i cant support you on the offical EvE forums ... GO CSM !
Even if you can not support the CSM via the official forums, you can still support this initivative by talking about it on the forums, twitter, youtube, gaming sites etc.
The Mittani did a follow up post here on how everyone can do their part.
Everything ends and I guess decline of EvE has started. Game was neglected by CCP for too long , they made wrong decisions and things that need fixing piled up tremendusly. They imho don't have enough resources avabile to bring back EvE back on rails , as they cannot and don't want to relocate resources from Dust and WoD.
Well anyway , it was nice to know you Eve. Bye bye o/
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
The concept was indeed sexy. it still is.
What they actually delivered was about a sexy as the 4-day old corpse of a crazy cat lady.
So I'm sorry, but no. You don't get to blame this on fickle players misleading the poor harassed developers.
Funny how a kid like Mittani touts so many useless titles and yet seems to know so little about how game developement works, or what the original vision for EVE was several years ago. I was in beta and been around EVE as a player from the beginning and it is not 100% about the ships. The goal CCP has said time and again is to develope as immersive a universe as possible. Well guess what, that involves adding features other than how fast a trigger-happy gate camper can gank a newb.
Personally at this point I hope CCP keeps players like Mittani waiting for EVE content and finishes WoD.
It's no wonder the population in EVE is stagnant lately with how crude, vulgar, and plain ignorant most of the EVE playerbase has become, making it a challenge for any new player to find any fun in the game.
The only "feature" that was added with Incarna was the humiliatingly dreadful cash shop.
Forgive me if I am underwhelmed with this much needed alternative to the " trigger-happy gate camper" features we miss.
Try checking out the word developement. It doesn't equate to instant gratification.
Try checking out the word "deliver" - it's what you haven't done when 70 people take 2 years to produce one single small room where you can't actually do anything or see any other players, and call it an MMO expansion.
Try checking out the word developement. It doesn't equate to instant gratification.
Try checking out the word "deliver" - it's what you haven't done when 70 people take 2 years to produce one single small room where you can't actually do anything or see any other players, and call it an MMO expansion.
Hey now, those $70 monocles won't make themselves! :P
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Actually CCP employees are paid in euros if they choose to.
I wish that Dust514 was on the PC, I'd love to jump back into the Eve universe in FPS style but it's no surprise that CCP is known for their specialized products. I think it'll be niche, which is what they're good at.
The fact after years of working on WIS/Incarna they could barely deliver one shoddy room with zero gameplay and even that one room is so shockingly coded it caused hardware failures due to heat issues just proves they can't deliver on the target they set themselves.
As a company they need scale back on their WOD/Dust plans fully support the FIS team and sort out the core game play issues fix the only product they have before it dies and then they can re-evaluate what they really want to do and more importantly what is actually achievable for them.
Verax
Selene, another memebr of the CSM and a former employee of CCP has written a blog on this http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com/2011/09/reality-check.html. It shows that Mittani is correct in saying that the CSM speak with one voice and it is an interesting view from an ex-dev on CCPs inner workings.
Alongside what Selene says in his blog above (and the entires CSM voice on this) CCP have also had a lucky break that no new AAA mmos have been released recently that would draw mass players away during this time of lack of content. With some highly anticipated MMOs nearing Beta stages soon they need to act quick before the game has a mass exodus. When a game becomes known as dying fast, rats leave the ship and little new blood is brought in to replace them.
No Eve = No Dust514
I've gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this. For years prior to Incarna, "Walking in Stations" was such an alluring, sexy concept - and now that it's out (well, only the first part of it, the Captain's Quarters) - players can't get enough of Flying in Space.
I really wouldn't want to be an MMO developer. There's no possible way to make your community happy for any considerable length of time; as long as you change the game (which you'll have to do, or else they'll accuse the game of stagnating), you'll be "breaking" something or doing "something stupid."
Drivel.
It's the way it was implemented, coupled with the ingoring of the major part of the game (Flying in Space), coupled with the "18 months" saga, piled on top of all the previous idiocy ccps upper management have displayed that provided the perfect storm for all this.
Listening to the playerbase rather than railroading them all into playing a way a large portion of didn;t want to... It's not like people weren't screaming at them what needing looking at.....
Iterating on previous additions that were unfinished, Fixing bugs that had been in the game for YEARS, fixing obvious imbalances that even they themselves acknowledged a long time ago, making CHOICE a major part of improvements...... and many, many more.
-----
Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
You are looking at this through a very limited lense. The Issue is not that people do not want walking in stations but goes back about two years.
1.The past three expansions have not had near the content of earlier EVE Expansions despite steady growth in profits for the game.
2.A Blog was released saying like 80% of Devs were working on what is basically a glorified station interface that the community kinda wanted. There would be no in space improvements for 18 months.
3.CCP said they were not going to add Cash Shops and added them. Not so bad cept a Newsletter got leaked talking about P2W Items and calling the players the Golden Goose. There response to this was a Dev Blog talking about why prices were high on current items citing Japanese $1000 Jeans(Seriously), while ignoring player concerns.
4.Players in the months up to the expansion stated pretty much unanimously that they would like a Station interface when docked, current or a new one that allows them quick access to gear without loading station enviroments. Despite this they did not do this and used a static image of the door leading to the rest of the station.
5. Incarna the Expansion touted for years as making EVE a whole new world, the one where they got 3 Sup Par Expansion because Dev Time was needed for Incarna, the Flagship release of EVE. It was one Instanced Minmatar Room. That is it, no interacting with other players which is the main thing everyone wanted, no other Captains Quarters just One Room and a Cash Shop.
/Clap Clap Clap.
Incarna is a whole new level of MMO disapointment like if Cata was a new Death Wing Pet and a Sitting Room. So Hyped up by CCP then crap.
After the players got angry CCP flew the CSM's to talk about how to fix it. They said they would release the minutes soon they were just finishing local translations... ten weeks ago. They said they'll bring back a Station Interface and no word on that.
Players being entitled bitches on the forums is always done by nobody's with a chip on there shoulder and are prombtly told where to shove that chip by the players. This is different, most of EVE's core contributers and community members are the ones speaking out. EVE has a tight Community that has a lot of love for EVE. It has been said many times by the Dev's, News Sites and Players that the Community is what makes EVE so great.
Mittens is right about this. The CSM's are here to represent the players and some are angry, most are disapointed and a lot have ether unsubbed or stopped logging on. They want to nip this in the bud and end fears about EVE. EVE Players were a happy bunch compared to most MMO's but there not anymore.
They should be again.
I totally agree with The Mittani.
Apocrypha was a fantastic expansion - we need more expansions that were as good.
I think WiS could be amazing, but it seems that CCP are limiting Eve's funding, so FiS should have priority for the forseable future.
WoD doesn't seem to fit into any form of EvE SyFy universe as near as I can tell. Dust is just BS. I am betting you CCP are setting up bank accounts in the Bahamas and then just go banckrupt on everyone at some point in next year or two.
Totally correct.
My view is that WiS could have been brilliant, but there is nearly nothing to show for it after several years, so development should concentrate of FiS: This is because FiS is Eve's (and CCP's) 'bread and butter' - the central nub, and it must be continually added to with good material.
Try checking out the word developement. It doesn't equate to instant gratification.
Dismissing the head of a player elected organization that discusses developer prioritization because of his in-game persona is, in my opinion, absolutely daft. Regardless of your opinion of the indivual himself, the entire player elected body of the CSM appears to be in full agreement that the upper management of CCP is neglecting what is currently their sole MMO title.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the game as it is, and many player's love the current game, and the new directions CCP have picked. However, there are serious flaws with the game that have not been adressed by CCP. Some date back several years. The interview is also absolutely correct that two of the past three expansions have been very lackluster and have left very few 'new' things for player's to do.
Unlike standard theme park games were developer's design new content for player's each expansion, sandbox games deliver the environment for player's to create their own content... but once player's grow bored with the game itself, and the developer's no longer have the time to invest in growing the sandbox... things rapidly reach a point where the game will just die out.
The last few expansions have had VERY few things for player's to partake in. In theory CCP was going to totally revitalize the New Player Experience so new player's had a more streamlined way to enter the game. That content ended up taking about an hour for new player's to go through... then they were dumped in a 8-10 hour outdated tutorial system that, in some cases, directly conflicted with things that were explained in the new tutorials.
That's a small example, but if CCP cannot even spend time trying to appeal to NEW player's, it's no suprise that many of the veteran player's are feeling bored. The fact that CCP has bitten off entirely too much with their two new game releases, coupled with the absolutely horrid state of the world's finances and their obligations to stockholders to complete these new games means it's absolutely to be expected that they would ignore their flagship title.
That... couldn't possibly be further from the truth.
You can see on Youtube the promo video's CCP presented for that new feature back in 2007. Let me repeat that... 2007.
I'm not entirely certain what year it is now, but the vision CCP presented in 2007 looks absolutely nothing like what they actually released nearly half a decade later. Maintaining any level of excitement over a vaporware feature set, then seeing the absolute shambles of what it was released as... how could the community possibly be happy?
And that's ignoring all the overheating issues they added with their new poorly coded engine. Yes, some of those issues have been resolved, but not all... not by any means.
Further, CCP promised to iterate on their new Walking in Stations system, but the closest we've come to seeing the other portions of it is from a NY fashion designer working for Lady Gaga... apparently CCP was willing to share their product with a fashion show... but not their paying customers.
My chairman. VoV
Agree on everything the CSM is doing / done and have done what I can to bring more hits on this news through other social sites.
EVE once again is in the news, all for the wrong reasons.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
CCP egos knows no bounds and that will be their downfall.
You do not know what your talking about.
Does WoW have two free expansions a year ?
Has the play style of WoW change since release?
Answers no.
They have nothing in comparrison. The players in Eve love the game they just want CCP to listen instead of concentrating on fluff to cater to the "my little poney" crowd. Like the ones who play WoW.
I play Eve and personaly I do not want it to be flooded by WoW players. Lets keep things in space. Incarnna is a fail.
You have no clue ...
We were shown videos of WiS prior to Apocrypha that featured a WHOLE STATION !!! Hillmar himself was presenting the environment with bars, palyer run shops, corporation/alliance war rooms etc. IT WAS AWESOME !!! Even then people protested against allocating DEV and server resources to this because we had performance and balance problems.
Fast forward to Incarna. We got ONE ROOM where you are alone and cannot do anything new. Badly coded as well since the performance was/is abysmal. We still have the balance problems (some got worse) but no new content and worse client performance. And declining PCU.
Now we should shut up and quielty pay for the game ? The Mittani and the CSM have my full support on this.
I have to call BS on this!
Because If this is the case then CCP will have to lose a crap load of players to satisfy your fantasy. The OP is right and its not because i have been playing the game from 2003. I dont like Goons ... never have. But the OP is on the CSM and we did elect him so he does represent the players in this regard.
And if you did not vote then dont complain about it not being so... to thoughs that have not! Because many have been to lazy to make there voices heard in CMS voteing ... but would complain about the condidates.
"Walking in stations was necessary to actually show people they had avatars and not spaceships. Despite all the vets crying it has affected them little."
Thats not it... I like the idea but not at the expence of the core gameplay. I think its important to develop this idea but not try and skin the players with the NEX $70 a pop store. They give me the feeling that i am being SHROOD HARD ... I mean $70 for an item.
But hey there is fool born everyday ... and thats there target market!
"So all in all, Mittani is right to fear what is coming, his alliance is one of the ones that will take the blunt of it, but it will open up the game to a lot more players and CCP knows they really have no choice if they intend to grow the game."
What fantastic SPECULATION on your part. If all the vets left ..what do you think would happen to the EvE economy ... and how many new players would have to replace them. ..I can see your a NEW player .. noob.
..well said Mittani ... i have already voted with my subs so i cant support you on the offical EvE forums ... GO CSM !
Even if you can not support the CSM via the official forums, you can still support this initivative by talking about it on the forums, twitter, youtube, gaming sites etc.
The Mittani did a follow up post here on how everyone can do their part.
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?9644-Goonswarm-Federation-The-Last-Bastion-Of-True-Gooniness&p=295116&viewfull=1#post295116
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
Everything ends and I guess decline of EvE has started. Game was neglected by CCP for too long , they made wrong decisions and things that need fixing piled up tremendusly. They imho don't have enough resources avabile to bring back EvE back on rails , as they cannot and don't want to relocate resources from Dust and WoD.
Well anyway , it was nice to know you Eve. Bye bye o/
The concept was indeed sexy. it still is.
What they actually delivered was about a sexy as the 4-day old corpse of a crazy cat lady.
So I'm sorry, but no. You don't get to blame this on fickle players misleading the poor harassed developers.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Try checking out the word "deliver" - it's what you haven't done when 70 people take 2 years to produce one single small room where you can't actually do anything or see any other players, and call it an MMO expansion.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Hey now, those $70 monocles won't make themselves! :P
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
BestSigEver :P
