to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
Then you would be wrong. But then again, who listens to those that know anything.
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
What sources are you using for beta discussions? Cuz my sources mostly approve of what they see, for it being beta and all.
I'm not even getting TOR as it isnt my flavor of genre, so fanboi stamp can't fit here, but everything i've heard says it's doing just fine.
alot of things are good, but there are also things that MUSt be addressed, and it being "just fine" is wishful thinking right now.
to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
And I suppose you are a beta tester that is breaking the NDA to tell the "truth" about the game. Then again, if you can't be trusted to honor a simple NDA then how is anyone going to trust any of what you claim to say?
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
What sources are you using for beta discussions? Cuz my sources mostly approve of what they see, for it being beta and all.
I'm not even getting TOR as it isnt my flavor of genre, so fanboi stamp can't fit here, but everything i've heard says it's doing just fine.
alot of things are good, but there are also things that MUSt be addressed, and it being "just fine" is wishful thinking right now.
'Just Fine' implies it is still in BETA, there are GOING to be things that HAVE to be fixed before release, which is the POINT of beta. OVERALL <---(that word is the kicker), this game is coming along 'just fine' and if continued in this fashion will release next year, maybe even LATE next year if they scrap some things and start from scratch on them.
If they have enough people on it, which i mean, its bioware, the game might still even release this year. a bit wishful? maybe. possible? maybe.
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
Ok...
You should hold off playing it until 2014 then. Or, in accordance with you thread title, never pick it up at all.
to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
Aren't they in the middle of releasing a new beta build? Isn't it a bit off to be saying the above while you have no clue what that build introduces?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
What sources are you using for beta discussions? Cuz my sources mostly approve of what they see, for it being beta and all.
I'm not even getting TOR as it isnt my flavor of genre, so fanboi stamp can't fit here, but everything i've heard says it's doing just fine.
Just wait and see, all anyone can do. But vaporware as OP thinks is not it. Polish and wanting a very good launch so there is no bad press based on stability and playability is what they are doing IMO.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
Aren't they in the middle of releasing a new beta build? Isn't it a bit off to be saying the above while you have no clue what that build introduces?
really it needs 2 more test phases. there's time for another one before the supposed launch window, but the amount of work to be done to fix things would be just outside their usual time table.
it would have to be a miracle build, something that has never been done.
Many games, after the first or second stage closed beta, have glaring issues. You can list all the MMO's on the top 50 list and you'll have just listed all the games that were pretty much in the same state as ToR's current state.
They are releasing a completely new build in the next couple of weeks and most expect another round of Beta testing to hit within the next 30 days. I don't expect to see anything close to open-B for at least 60-90 days.
Also, there will ALWAYS be someone posting somewhere about how bad insert game name here is in it's current state. Odds are, those people have no idea how game development progresses and double those odds that they aren't even looking at the core because fluff and graphics is all they truly care about.
...and you have sources from where to support this?
no, just dont think beta went very good and all talk of release has droped off,, i think at this point we would be doing good to see the game out at all in 2012
What sources are you using for beta discussions? Cuz my sources mostly approve of what they see, for it being beta and all.
I'm not even getting TOR as it isnt my flavor of genre, so fanboi stamp can't fit here, but everything i've heard says it's doing just fine.
Just wait and see, all anyone can do. But vaporware as OP thinks is not it. Polish and wanting a very good launch so there is no bad press based on stability and playability is what they are doing IMO.
this is why i feel it should be pushed back by two months. it's not completely atrocious or unplayable, but these aren't all quick fixes. also, optimization still has not been done at all. we'll see what the next build holds, but i don't think it'll be ready for release november/december. there's little point in some of you getting upset because this will be better for the game's reception.
Many games, after the first or second stage closed beta, have glaring issues. You can list all the MMO's on the top 50 list and you'll have just listed all the games that were pretty much in the same state as ToR's current state.
They are releasing a completely new build in the next couple of weeks and most expect another round of Beta testing to hit within the next 30 days. I don't expect to see anything close to open-B for at least 60-90 days.
Also, there will ALWAYS be someone posting somewhere about how bad insert game name here is in it's current state. Odds are, those people have no idea how game development progresses and double those odds that they aren't even looking at the core because fluff and graphics is all they truly care about.
there will not be an open beta, the game is expected by most people(and by EA apparently) to release in about six to eight weeks and i know how development progresses. i've been in plenty of MMO beta tests. i also know how fanboys react to anything less than gushing praise.
to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
And I suppose you are a beta tester that is breaking the NDA to tell the "truth" about the game. Then again, if you can't be trusted to honor a simple NDA then how is anyone going to trust any of what you claim to say?
i would rather take a little information from a guy thats seen some stuff rather than a gaming company thats leading us on for years....
but i dont know about it being in our best interest if its delayed, i for one would rather deal with some bugs for a little bit than wait untill they actualy start building the deathstar for this game to come out.
This NDA on ToR is beyond aggrivating right because it makes forming a actual opinion on the game impossible. It is hard to say when someone is trolling because the second they post info that breaks the NDA mmorpg.com is required to delete the post lol
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This NDA on ToR is beyond aggrivating right because it makes forming a actual opinion on the game impossible. It is hard to say when someone is trolling because the second they post info that breaks the NDA mmorpg.com is required to delete the post lol
Well to form an opinion, you would have to have the launch build to even have all the info. Until we have a release date and launch build, it will continue to be tested and is only a beta build. So NDA is just stating the obvious. The game is being tested and changing based on feedback.
So really it just comes down to what they want that last build to be. How many times are they going to change things basted on testers feedback. It still very well could come out in Nov/Dec. But if it isn't in Nov, I think it will be pushed to Feb/March. I really want to play this game, so I am hoping for Nov. But I don't care when, I will be playing for a long time regardless. I can wait.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
Well to form an opinion, you would have to have the launch build to even have all the info. Until we have a release date and launch build, it will continue to be tested and is only a beta build. So NDA is just stating the obvious. The game is being tested and changing based on feedback.
You go into Beta testing like this when you think your game is ready for launch. I think what happened is they were dumb and tried to use the Beta wekends for marketing and it completely back fired in their faces.
By the time the second Beta rolled around on Rift the NDA was gone. There was review after review of every aspect of the game and you could form extremely solid opinions on the game. I just hope they do not screw this up and ruin what could be much needed competition into this market.
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...and you have sources from where to support this?
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It's more likely that EA will push the game out before it's finished than to delay it indefinitely, in my opinionn.
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Check other posts. . mostly seems like negative. . or troll posting.
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to be serious, this game has a number of issues and i cannot see it coming out in 2011. before you get all mad, it is in your best interest that this game be delayed unitl february or march. just factoring in their timetable as far as client release, the amount of fixes needed and testing time. i imagine going into detail would get the post deleted, if anyone has any questions on specifics PM me.
IF this game comes out in november/december, it'll be in bad shape.
Then you would be wrong. But then again, who listens to those that know anything.
Let's party like it is 1863!
alot of things are good, but there are also things that MUSt be addressed, and it being "just fine" is wishful thinking right now.
And I suppose you are a beta tester that is breaking the NDA to tell the "truth" about the game. Then again, if you can't be trusted to honor a simple NDA then how is anyone going to trust any of what you claim to say?
Let's party like it is 1863!
this is nothing more then something to get a rise out of people and in no way based upon any facts...
'Just Fine' implies it is still in BETA, there are GOING to be things that HAVE to be fixed before release, which is the POINT of beta. OVERALL <---(that word is the kicker), this game is coming along 'just fine' and if continued in this fashion will release next year, maybe even LATE next year if they scrap some things and start from scratch on them.
If they have enough people on it, which i mean, its bioware, the game might still even release this year. a bit wishful? maybe. possible? maybe.
The Deep Web is sca-ry.
Ok...
You should hold off playing it until 2014 then. Or, in accordance with you thread title, never pick it up at all.
Aren't they in the middle of releasing a new beta build? Isn't it a bit off to be saying the above while you have no clue what that build introduces?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So, more or less a bogus thread.
Just wait and see, all anyone can do. But vaporware as OP thinks is not it. Polish and wanting a very good launch so there is no bad press based on stability and playability is what they are doing IMO.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
really it needs 2 more test phases. there's time for another one before the supposed launch window, but the amount of work to be done to fix things would be just outside their usual time table.
it would have to be a miracle build, something that has never been done.
Many games, after the first or second stage closed beta, have glaring issues. You can list all the MMO's on the top 50 list and you'll have just listed all the games that were pretty much in the same state as ToR's current state.
They are releasing a completely new build in the next couple of weeks and most expect another round of Beta testing to hit within the next 30 days. I don't expect to see anything close to open-B for at least 60-90 days.
Also, there will ALWAYS be someone posting somewhere about how bad insert game name here is in it's current state. Odds are, those people have no idea how game development progresses and double those odds that they aren't even looking at the core because fluff and graphics is all they truly care about.
this is why i feel it should be pushed back by two months. it's not completely atrocious or unplayable, but these aren't all quick fixes. also, optimization still has not been done at all. we'll see what the next build holds, but i don't think it'll be ready for release november/december. there's little point in some of you getting upset because this will be better for the game's reception.
there will not be an open beta, the game is expected by most people(and by EA apparently) to release in about six to eight weeks and i know how development progresses. i've been in plenty of MMO beta tests. i also know how fanboys react to anything less than gushing praise.
i would rather take a little information from a guy thats seen some stuff rather than a gaming company thats leading us on for years....
but i dont know about it being in our best interest if its delayed, i for one would rather deal with some bugs for a little bit than wait untill they actualy start building the deathstar for this game to come out.
~WASABI~
one or two month wouldn't be so bad. a smooth launch is much more important, fans are already willing to deal with any initial hiccups, even big ones.
This NDA on ToR is beyond aggrivating right because it makes forming a actual opinion on the game impossible. It is hard to say when someone is trolling because the second they post info that breaks the NDA mmorpg.com is required to delete the post lol
You mean gasp...I have a pre-order that will last another 3 years! LOL
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Well to form an opinion, you would have to have the launch build to even have all the info. Until we have a release date and launch build, it will continue to be tested and is only a beta build. So NDA is just stating the obvious. The game is being tested and changing based on feedback.
So really it just comes down to what they want that last build to be. How many times are they going to change things basted on testers feedback. It still very well could come out in Nov/Dec. But if it isn't in Nov, I think it will be pushed to Feb/March. I really want to play this game, so I am hoping for Nov. But I don't care when, I will be playing for a long time regardless. I can wait.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
You go into Beta testing like this when you think your game is ready for launch. I think what happened is they were dumb and tried to use the Beta wekends for marketing and it completely back fired in their faces.
By the time the second Beta rolled around on Rift the NDA was gone. There was review after review of every aspect of the game and you could form extremely solid opinions on the game. I just hope they do not screw this up and ruin what could be much needed competition into this market.
MOD delete please this is strictly a trolling thread