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So, was it a lie that pre-order stocks are 'limited', or is the demand lower then expected?

It has to be one or the other, right?

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  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    I'm not sure what you're getting at. Pre-order stocks weren't limited, however collector's edition pre-order stocks were.

    Even then, I'm pretty sure that every retailer got a limited number of CEs to sell for pre-order, so if you can find a retailer that didn't sell all their CEs yet you are in luck.

  • deadmilkdeadmilk Member Posts: 173

    As long as people are willing to fork out $150 for an ok game, they will make sure there are plenty of copies..

  • udonudon Member UncommonPosts: 1,803

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    Option 3.  They increased the supply.

  • BarakIIIBarakIII Member Posts: 800

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks. Even then it's not like they won't be making more, it's just that if they sell out you might have to wait a few days to get yours. They are limiting stocks for the same reason they are waiting for two days to release in the EU, they don't want the servers to get rushed all in one day. So they didn't lie, you simply misunderstood.

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    Not from the way my email reads, it says to hurry up and pre-order, because now that it has been announced, pre-orders will go fast....Seems like they want people to think that ALL copies are limited.  I think it is a crock.

     

    I will probably play, but I call BS on this limited amount of all copies.....Collectors are probably limited, due to only so many of the figures and such being made....They bought a production run of them, and they are not going to buy another run...That I see....But digital copies that are going to be limited...I will believe it when I see it...

     

    I also don't see much of a break, when 1 month is $14.99, 3 months is $13.99/mo, and 6 months is $12.99/mo...A lot of games are offering $10.99 to $9.99 if you are willing to pay 6 months in advance.  Seems like a pretty weak price break imo.  If I play, no way I pay for more than 1 month at a time at that break.

     

    I am not bashing the game, I am just calling BS on them trying to create a false sense of shortage for the normal copies to sell the game, and mentioning a weak price break....All very legitimate, with nothing to do with the state of the game or how good it will or won't be.

     

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by udon

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    Option 3.  They increased the supply.

     

    So they can increase them according to demand and they are not, by defintion, 'limited'?

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Game company's do not lie, there employees and costumer's misinterpret what the company meant.

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  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks. Even then it's not like they won't be making more, it's just that if they sell out you might have to wait a few days to get yours. They are limiting stocks for the same reason they are waiting for two days to release in the EU, they don't want the servers to get rushed all in one day. So they didn't lie, you simply misunderstood.

     

    They exactly are saying pre-order stocks are limited, not that the total copies of the game are limited, just that when pre-order stocks are out, you may have to wait a undisclosed time, for them to make more available....Like say 1 day or 1 week....Or whatever...So if you don't want to be left without being able to play on launch day....You better buy now!

     

  • kegtapkegtap Member Posts: 261

    pre-oders that come with early access are limted. not all pre-orders but you may miss out on early access.

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  • BarakIIIBarakIII Member Posts: 800

    Originally posted by vesavius

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

    Oh gosh, I've never heard that marketing line before, whatever will I do? Give me a break. That's possibly the oldest marketing line there is.

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    Pre-order stocks weren't limited, however collector's edition pre-order stocks were.

     

    They stated,and continue to state, that allpre-orders were/ are.

    No, it wasnt just the CE edition at all.

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    Originally posted by vesavius


    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

    Oh gosh, I've never heard that marketing line before, whatever will I do? Give me a break. That's possibly the oldest marketing line there is.

     

    So you agree that they lied?

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Originally posted by vesavius

    Originally posted by BarakIII


    Originally posted by vesavius


    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

    Oh gosh, I've never heard that marketing line before, whatever will I do? Give me a break. That's possibly the oldest marketing line there is.

     

    So you agree that they lied?

    So once more Company's do not lie, they hire or retaine lawyers.

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  • BarakIIIBarakIII Member Posts: 800

    Originally posted by vesavius

    Originally posted by BarakIII


    Originally posted by vesavius


    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

    Oh gosh, I've never heard that marketing line before, whatever will I do? Give me a break. That's possibly the oldest marketing line there is.

     

    So you agree that they lied?

    No, I'm saying your post is silly.

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    Originally posted by vesavius


    Originally posted by BarakIII


    Originally posted by vesavius


    Originally posted by BarakIII

    If I'm not mistaken, they were saying stocks are limited, not pre-order stocks.

     

    No, they are explicitly saying 'preorder now while stocks last'.

    Oh gosh, I've never heard that marketing line before, whatever will I do? Give me a break. That's possibly the oldest marketing line there is.

     

    So you agree that they lied?

    No, I'm saying your post is silly.

     

    How very evasive :)

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    Off of their website, in the pre-order faq.

     


    BioWare has always had a history of delivering high quality experiences for our customers and we are dedicated to making sure that track record continues with Star Wars: The Old Republic. Our focus is on not only delivering a high quality game, but also in developing a thriving online environment. In order to ensure a great user experience we have decided to limit initial launch supply. Further supplies will be released post-launch. 

     

     

    It's creating a fake shortage, to drive sales...It's fine and all, and they will also give early access, based on the order of you putting your pre-order code into their database...So they are creating a shortage, and then to top it off, creating another factor to drive earlier sales.

     

    They have every right to do so, but I call BS, like I said on you not being able to buy a pre-order on say 12/19/2011...We will see....I have a feeling, I will not have to say, hey, I was wrong!

     


  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Launching near christmas ? They are going to need all the help they can get.

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  • Matticus75Matticus75 Member UncommonPosts: 396

    Nope not going to get burned again, not buying anything, ill just want till what you guys think before I buy this game

  • OberholzerOberholzer Member Posts: 498
    Situations like this are neither new or shocking, really who cares. If you want a game bad enough to pre order then do so. If not roll the dice and hope you can get it the day of release. I can recall once in the past year not being able to get a game on release day after not preordering. Doesn't happen often but it can happen. Just my own personal experience.

  • Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    I'm not sure what you're getting at. Pre-order stocks weren't limited, however collector's edition pre-order stocks were.

    Even then, I'm pretty sure that every retailer got a limited number of CEs to sell for pre-order, so if you can find a retailer that didn't sell all their CEs yet you are in luck.

    actually they have said the number of pre-order codes would be limited so that they could try and control the tiered launch they will be doing.  however they have never said what the limit would be.

     

    As reported by Game Informer, EA said today that it will be limiting the number of Star Wars: The Old Republic copies that will be available at launch, through both retail and digital channels. EA reportedly made this decision so as to ensure server stability when the game goes live later this year.

    The publisher went on to note that while it has already established what the exact number of copies sold will be, it will not be announcing that figure. If and when that sales figure is reached, the publisher plans to cease digital sales while it expands server capacity. Once the player load can be accommodated, EA will resume game sales.

    http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/star-wars-the-old-republic/news/6330062/ea-to-cap-star-wars-the-old-republic-sales?mode=all

     

    however from what i have seen, demand may be a bit higher than expected.  it broke EA's record for pre-order sales.  all we have in terms of pre-order numbers currently is US retail sellers, and that number as of this past monday was 463,121 pre-orders.  that is just US retailers, and doesn't include digital or european sales

  • KabaalKabaal Member UncommonPosts: 3,042

    A lot of people are latching on to the word limited without realising that they aren't quite as limited as they think. It is a guesstimate but probably a conservative one that pre-orders and pre-order codes are already well above 1.5million including all US, EU, AUS and every other part of the world physical and digital requests. They are still available, just not at every retailer letting the numbers still climb higher.

    Why do i say 1.5mil at least? Us has nearly 500k in physical pre-orders so i have to assume Europe does too, add on to that all the orders from countries and continents outside of those, and then take a wild guess at the digital pre-orders through origin. Personally i think those digital pre-orders would equal or exceed the physical ones but 1.5 doesn't sound like a silly number, yet it is huge.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by vesavius

    It has to be one or the other, right?

    Stuff like this is lying, it is "being competetive".

    Besides 10 million copies are limited just like 3 are. Limited just means that you start making a certain number of copies before launch, the actual numbers of how many copies they decided to make doesn't affect that.

  • BarakIIIBarakIII Member Posts: 800

    Originally posted by Kabaal

    A lot of people are latching on to the word limited without realising that they aren't quite as limited as they think. It is a guesstimate but probably a conservative one that pre-orders and pre-order codes are already well above 1.5million including all US, EU, AUS and every other part of the world physical and digital requests. They are still available, just not at every retailer letting the numbers still climb higher.

    Why do i say 1.5mil at least? Us has nearly 500k in physical pre-orders so i have to assume Europe does too, add on to that all the orders from countries and continents outside of those, and then take a wild guess at the digital pre-orders through origin. Personally i think those digital pre-orders would equal or exceed the physical ones but 1.5 doesn't sound like a silly number, yet it is huge.

    I disagree on several things here. I think most people still prefer to have a physical copy of a game. While I think digitial sales are becoming more popular, they still haven't reached the level of box sales. I could be wrong, but that's my opinion concerning digital sales.

    I also think you're jumping to conclusions on the idea that Europe will have as many sales as in North America. Also considering they are limiting where they release the game, it's not as widespread of a release as you seem to be implying. Not even all of Europe has had full access.

    The meaningless marketing line the OP brought up notwithstanding, they have said all along they will be limiting the release so that they can have a smooth launch. I doubt they will sale out via pre-orders, but I suppose anything is possible.

  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600

    As it is impossible to reach the number infinity, then by mathematics at any one time stock will be limited. 

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