The longevity of the game relies heavily on the guillability of the userbase. The stupider the user, the more likely the game will go on. People "came back" for Dawn, and what did they get? A broken assed, terrible game that is nothing like an "MO 2.0" which was so long touted.
When they get territory control, do you REALLY think it's going to work? Of course not -- but stupid people that don't learn lessons the first time around will come back to the game expecting the world, and then be disappointed, but not leaving before sticking around a few months. Welcome to the new business model.
but like i said, territory control is content most people will enjoy. New horses and cooking isnt. Its that simple TC is what people want its content that will further the lfie of the game. Nothing which came in dawn did that, nothing whcih was coming in dawn was gonig to do that as i raised many concenrs before the patch wnet live over what was gonig to be in it. I dont have those issues with TC so im confident it will be much better recieved, sure the game will likely loose some people with bugs introduced in TC update but it wont loose even more through a lack of new content, unlike dawn.
When i login to mo i enjoy my time playing the game, i dont see how im being decieved or gullable. If i was subscribing jsut based off of a possible future for MO then yea but im not im subscribed because i enjoy the game, the fact that mo also has plenty of exciting features planned is just something to look forward to. i do prefer the new mounts for the most part, i just think it was the wrong time to add them to the game.
darkfall 1.0 is likely to close down, yea and be replaced with 2.0 something mant of the community feel cheated about, sicne there has been patches promised for almost a year that never materialised and 0 patches for lnog stretches of time only for them to announce yes were working on a new darkfall when originally they replied no we arent. Also wipe or no wipe, cap or no cap, from reading the forums the community are up in arms and even the fanboys are questioning their loyalty. I personally look forward to darkfall 2.0 and will liekyl give it a go. But prehaps all the fuss on thier forums is a warning that it would only end badly.
when you begin considering buying stock to force mmo employees out of crappilly run games, i think its time to flush that turd down the toilet.
i mean seriously. what's next, running for congress to change the laws regarding mmo development? MO is a never was. move on. jump on board embers of caerus like everyone else is doing.
Just to understand, the whole "content machine" SV are talking about, is in fact a feature that requires a large and active population in order to work?
Nice !
I hope you enjoy skirmishing with 5 half naked dudes over an empty hill, cause that's pretty much what its going to look like.
Not sure how it is in his country, but I believe in the majority of countries the CEO is BY LAW responsible of properly running his company and can be sued if he mismanaged the company. Poeple invest the money, there not giving it away, they have certain rights and the CEO of a public company is responsible to maintain a healty company.
example: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2367786,00.asp#fbid=vclVfbZEXSm - "a group of shareholders have filed suit against the company's board, alleging, among other things, gross mismanagement and waste of corporate assets." So accoding to this arrticle even the whole board.
I seriously never understood the hate for this developer.
I went to a resturant before because the outside of the store looked nice, ordered an appetizer and it was quite good. When my entree came out I discovered it wasnt that great and the staff had low to mediocre service. I never returned to the restaurant.
Not sure why some people research the owner of the resturant and sit outside the restaurant in thier tye-dye banging bongos, picketing and boycotting the place and always speaking of suing the place(but never doing it). Its just weird on that end.
Ive played MO, had fun for a while, found out the company wont fix bugs and allows exploits, and quit playing... never looking back.
PS-(Dont insert some lame response about how you went to a restaurant and got food poisoning and had a retarded baby and its all Henricks fault).
I seriously never understood the hate for this developer.
I went to a resturant before because the outside of the store looked nice, ordered an appetizer and it was quite good. When my entree came out I discovered it wasnt that great and the staff had low to mediocre service. I never returned to the restaurant.
Not sure why some people research the owner of the resturant and sit outside the restaurant in thier tye-dye banging bongos, picketing and boycotting the place and always speaking of suing the place(but never doing it). Its just weird on that end.
Ive played MO, had fun for a while, found out the company wont fix bugs and allows exploits, and quit playing... never looking back.
PS-(Dont insert some lame response about how you went to a restaurant and got food poisoning and had a retarded baby and its all Henricks fault).
This is a forum and I find this thread a very interesting an relevant discussion regarding the liability of the CEO and board to the shareholders. This discussion is from an shareholder point of view not that of a regular player. So the analogy of your is incorrect.
I seriously never understood the hate for this developer.
I went to a resturant before because the outside of the store looked nice, ordered an appetizer and it was quite good. When my entree came out I discovered it wasnt that great and the staff had low to mediocre service. I never returned to the restaurant.
Not sure why some people research the owner of the resturant and sit outside the restaurant in thier tye-dye banging bongos, picketing and boycotting the place and always speaking of suing the place(but never doing it). Its just weird on that end.
Ive played MO, had fun for a while, found out the company wont fix bugs and allows exploits, and quit playing... never looking back.
PS-(Dont insert some lame response about how you went to a restaurant and got food poisoning and had a retarded baby and its all Henricks fault).
This is a forum and I find this thread a very interesting an relevant discussion regarding the liability of the CEO and board to the shareholders. This discussion is from an shareholder point of view not that of a regular player. So the analogy of your is incorrect.
Ahh, So why dont the shareholders sue? I'm not a securities lawyer myself but I'm sure there is a legal course of action they can take instead of talking about it on a gaming forum. If there isnt then... Oh well, accept the investment risk and invest a little smarter next time as you only have yourself to blame for investing in a penny stock niche gaming indie developer.
darkfall 1.0 is likely to close down, yea and be replaced with 2.0 something mant of the community feel cheated about, sicne there has been patches promised for almost a year that never materialised and 0 patches for lnog stretches of time only for them to announce yes were working on a new darkfall when originally they replied no we arent. Also wipe or no wipe, cap or no cap, from reading the forums the community are up in arms and even the fanboys are questioning their loyalty. I personally look forward to darkfall 2.0 and will liekyl give it a go. But prehaps all the fuss on thier forums is a warning that it would only end badly.
The DF community is always pissed about one thing or another, and the forums are an extremely poor indicator of the state of things. Some of the most rabid haters still hold a sub specifically so they can spread disinformation and outright lies on the subscriber forums.
Not the most accurate way to judge the perception of the fanbase overall, the majority are looking forward to the changes coming to the game.
Anyways, let's stay on topic here, this thread isn't about DF.
When i login to mo i enjoy my time playing the game, i dont see how im being decieved or gullable. If i was subscribing jsut based off of a possible future for MO then yea but im not im subscribed because i enjoy the game, the fact that mo also has plenty of exciting features planned is just something to look forward to. i do prefer the new mounts for the most part, i just think it was the wrong time to add them to the game.
You have stated that you are doing nothing in game but helping newbies and wait for your sub to expire. You are obviously not enjoying the game as you would still be subscribing if you did.
Why do you keep posting comments like the above when it is in direct contradiction to your posts on the official boards?
darkfall 1.0 is likely to close down, yea and be replaced with 2.0 something mant of the community feel cheated about
So Darkfall take steps to fix the problems in the game and you are complaining? Who cares if the 1.0 closes, in Shadowbane servers opened and closed all the time. They appear to be doing what SV is incapable of doing, which is fixing their game.
I seriously never understood the hate for this developer.
I went to a resturant before because the outside of the store looked nice, ordered an appetizer and it was quite good. When my entree came out I discovered it wasnt that great and the staff had low to mediocre service. I never returned to the restaurant.
Not sure why some people research the owner of the resturant and sit outside the restaurant in thier tye-dye banging bongos, picketing and boycotting the place and always speaking of suing the place(but never doing it). Its just weird on that end.
Ive played MO, had fun for a while, found out the company wont fix bugs and allows exploits, and quit playing... never looking back.
PS-(Dont insert some lame response about how you went to a restaurant and got food poisoning and had a retarded baby and its all Henricks fault).
This is a forum and I find this thread a very interesting an relevant discussion regarding the liability of the CEO and board to the shareholders. This discussion is from an shareholder point of view not that of a regular player. So the analogy of your is incorrect.
Ahh, So why dont the shareholders sue? I'm not a securities lawyer myself but I'm sure there is a legal course of action they can take instead of talking about it on a gaming forum. If there isnt then... Oh well, accept the investment risk and invest a little smarter next time as you only have yourself to blame for investing in a penny stock niche gaming indie developer.
Duno.. Might be coz the combined shares are less worth then the cost from a court case. simply not worth it, the game has no value, the game engines are all 3th party so worth nothing also. at most they would get is some computers whit old software licenses ( the programming tools) the building the team resides in is a rented place (remember from some fan post who went there) the game servers are rented soooo so far I mentioned only a minor software license that might be worth a very tiny bit/fraction of the invested amount .. there is simply nothing of worth and its better to let some corrupt Greek sit in some office dooming them self slowly, write of the cost and get tax refunds or if very lucky see a amazing turn around some day bringing in millions and making the game/company actual worth fighting over.
When i login to mo i enjoy my time playing the game, i dont see how im being decieved or gullable. If i was subscribing jsut based off of a possible future for MO then yea but im not im subscribed because i enjoy the game, the fact that mo also has plenty of exciting features planned is just something to look forward to. i do prefer the new mounts for the most part, i just think it was the wrong time to add them to the game.
You have stated that you are doing nothing in game but helping newbies and wait for your sub to expire. You are obviously not enjoying the game as you would still be subscribing if you did.
Why do you keep posting comments like the above when it is in direct contradiction to your posts on the official boards?
darkfall 1.0 is likely to close down, yea and be replaced with 2.0 something mant of the community feel cheated about
So Darkfall take steps to fix the problems in the game and you are complaining? Who cares if the 1.0 closes, in Shadowbane servers opened and closed all the time. They appear to be doing what SV is incapable of doing, which is fixing their game.
i recieved yet another free month of gametime for the last pic of the month, (2x i have won it) so of course i wont be canceling my subscription. But i will likely resub after this month anyway because recently i have been having plenty of fun in MO rolling with a few people in a small pvp group, mainly guildies.
im not complaining about darkfall, the darkfall community is doing that. All i know is im looking forward to seeing if darkfall 2.0 fixes the obvious issues with darkfalls game mechanics so it doesnt fail like darkfall 1.0 did.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
The winner of the September picture contest was Huh, an account that only joined in September 2011 so is not one of your accounts (unless of course you only play the game on trial accounts or bought another copy of the game, but you have stated that is not the case). So which contest did you win? It was not the "last pic of the month" so any game time added would have expired by now considering the screenshot contest was suspended for a long time.
I also think it is telling that it apparently took free game time to get you to play. If you will only play it for free, you cannot consider the game worth a monthly fee.
You then say you are having fun with your guildies, when AQ has pretty much quit (according to your own members posts on the official forums). Do you also claim the population is rising then, as threads on the official are full of people who cannot find any PvP apart from occasional guard zone skirmishes. Who is right? Those posters are you, who only a couple of weeks ago was going to quit until he was given free game time by SV?
As for Darkfall, if you consider Darkfall 1.0 a failure, how can you regard MO as anything other than an unmitigated disaster? Darkfall is in FAR FAR better shape than MO will ever be.
The winner of the September picture contest was Huh, an account that only joined in September 2011 so is not one of your accounts (unless of course you only play the game on trial accounts or bought another copy of the game, but you have stated that is not the case). So which contest did you win? It was not the "last pic of the month" so any game time added would have expired by now considering the screenshot contest was suspended for a long time.
I also think it is telling that it apparently took free game time to get you to play. If you will only play it for free, you cannot consider the game worth a monthly fee.
You then say you are having fun with your guildies, when AQ has pretty much quit (according to your own members posts on the official forums). Do you also claim the population is rising then, as threads on the official are full of people who cannot find any PvP apart from occasional guard zone skirmishes. Who is right? Those posters are you, who only a couple of weeks ago was going to quit until he was given free game time by SV?
As for Darkfall, if you consider Darkfall 1.0 a failure, how can you regard MO as anything other than an unmitigated disaster? Darkfall is in FAR FAR better shape than MO will ever be.
SV likes to reward the truly faithful and its helps with marketing.
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The winner of the September picture contest was Huh, an account that only joined in September 2011 so is not one of your accounts (unless of course you only play the game on trial accounts or bought another copy of the game, but you have stated that is not the case). So which contest did you win? It was not the "last pic of the month" so any game time added would have expired by now considering the screenshot contest was suspended for a long time.
I also think it is telling that it apparently took free game time to get you to play. If you will only play it for free, you cannot consider the game worth a monthly fee.
You then say you are having fun with your guildies, when AQ has pretty much quit (according to your own members posts on the official forums). Do you also claim the population is rising then, as threads on the official are full of people who cannot find any PvP apart from occasional guard zone skirmishes. Who is right? Those posters are you, who only a couple of weeks ago was going to quit until he was given free game time by SV?
As for Darkfall, if you consider Darkfall 1.0 a failure, how can you regard MO as anything other than an unmitigated disaster? Darkfall is in FAR FAR better shape than MO will ever be.
i did buy 2 acconuts yes, i created the forum account in septemder using my second acconut due to issues with my main forum account which were resolved later. After i posted the screenshot under my alt account. my alt account is indeed HUH which i won billy or cyde will back me up on that. theres about 6 people still playing from my guild, billy, gigamo, zoltan, me ,darran, reprobate, alfie (sometimes) , afterlife (sometimes) along iwth friends who arent in aq.
darkfall has 1 year of release time over MO, i bleeive in 1 more year from now mo will be in better shape than darkfall is currently. if it lives 1 more year of course. If both games live another year darkfall 2.0 and MO will be interesting to be able to compare them both.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
i did buy 2 acconuts yes, i created the forum account in septemder using my second acconut due to issues with my main forum account which were resolved later. After i posted the screenshot under my alt account. my alt account is indeed HUH which i won billy or cyde will back me up on that. theres about 6 people still playing from my guild, billy, gigamo, zoltan, me ,darran, reprobate, alfie (sometimes) , afterlife (sometimes) along iwth friends who arent in aq.
darkfall has 1 year of release time over MO, i bleeive in 1 more year from now mo will be in better shape than darkfall is currently. if it lives 1 more year of course. If both games live another year darkfall 2.0 and MO will be interesting to be able to compare them both.
Yes thats him for the first part.
For the second part you are way, way off. The Darkfall game engine is top-notch. It blows away Unreal/Atlas. A year from now Mortal will still have the same shitty engine, and everyone will be playing DF 2.0.
More development time will not make Mortal better, because DF keeps getting better and better. The new siege system is friggin awesome and everyone is really positive about it.
i did buy 2 acconuts yes, i created the forum account in septemder using my second acconut due to issues with my main forum account which were resolved later. After i posted the screenshot under my alt account. my alt account is indeed HUH which i won billy or cyde will back me up on that. theres about 6 people still playing from my guild, billy, gigamo, zoltan, me ,darran, reprobate, alfie (sometimes) , afterlife (sometimes) along iwth friends who arent in aq.
darkfall has 1 year of release time over MO, i bleeive in 1 more year from now mo will be in better shape than darkfall is currently. if it lives 1 more year of course. If both games live another year darkfall 2.0 and MO will be interesting to be able to compare them both.
Yes thats him for the first part.
For the second part you are way, way off. The Darkfall game engine is top-notch. It blows away Unreal/Atlas. A year from now Mortal will still have the same shitty engine, and everyone will be playing DF 2.0.
More development time will not make Mortal better, because DF keeps getting better and better. The new siege system is friggin awesome and everyone is really positive about it.
For some reason Death thinks Darkfall is failing but not MO. Strange
AV have way more overheads and expenses than SV. They have 2 servers to support, they didnt get funding from their father unlike henrik althoguh i know the greek goverment paid some of it im not sure what terms they were under to pay it back or anything, also look at the current financial crisis greece is in. They have way mroe developers to pay who are likely on much higher wages than sv staff, the community is stating the pop is at an all time low. I beleive SV can function on a shoe string budget but AV cannot they might have a higher pop but they have much higher overheads compared to sv.
From what i can gather darkfall2.0 is sounding great, hopefully the grind will be cut down and im more than willing to give it a try, but there is no denying the current underlying fear of the darkfall forums that 2.0 might never surface.
Of course MO has been on a slippy slope since release, Thats plain to see by anyone, the population was way way higher on rleease than now. Its unlikely to ever see those numbers again anytime soon. The game has problems and the developers keep breaking stuff with each of their previous patches, But that doesnt mean i dont enjoy the game or that i think the TC update will increase the population and be a great addition to its feature list, Because i do enjoy it and i do think the TC update will make a difference.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
AV have way more overheads and expenses than SV. They have 2 servers to support, they didnt get funding from their father unlike henrik althoguh i know the greek goverment paid some of it im not sure what terms they were under to pay it back or anything, also look at the current financial crisis greece is in. They have way mroe developers to pay who are likely on much higher wages than sv staff, the community is stating the pop is at an all time low.
Okay guys, please.... I know its a standard MO tactic to point fingers and redirect the conversation to another companys shortfalls...BUT...
We are not talking about AV- We are talking about MO. We are also talking about how the CEO has anaged to keep his job when the stock has been steadily falling whilst Henrick has only seemed to lie, hype and disappoint.
I know you love MO Deathy, but you are trying to redirect the whole discussion. What you are doing would be the same as someone who holds Stock in Ford (when they hit their all time low) saying "Oh, Well... Damn Toyota BLOWS UP."
Actually, its not even that since I dont think Av is a Public company... One things for sure- Darkfall works. If it wasnt for "no skillcaps" (a terrible descision and a conversation for the DARKFALL FORUM) the game would be freaking epic.
Please remember, we are discussing Henrick and SV and Mortal Online... If you wish to bring up "Hello Kitty Online" or any other game (to show why Henrick is doing a good job???) Please use the appropriate Forum.
AV have way more overheads and expenses than SV. They have 2 servers to support, they didnt get funding from their father unlike henrik althoguh i know the greek goverment paid some of it im not sure what terms they were under to pay it back or anything, also look at the current financial crisis greece is in. They have way mroe developers to pay who are likely on much higher wages than sv staff, the community is stating the pop is at an all time low. I beleive SV can function on a shoe string budget but AV cannot they might have a higher pop but they have much higher overheads compared to sv.
From what i can gather darkfall2.0 is sounding great, hopefully the grind will be cut down and im more than willing to give it a try, but there is no denying the current underlying fear of the darkfall forums that 2.0 might never surface.
Of course MO has been on a slippy slope since release, Thats plain to see by anyone, the population was way way higher on rleease than now. Its unlikely to ever see those numbers again anytime soon. The game has problems and the developers keep breaking stuff with each of their previous patches, But that doesnt mean i dont enjoy the game or that i think the TC update will increase the population and be a great addition to its feature list, Because i do enjoy it and i do think the TC update will make a difference.
So your reasoning for MO not failing and AV failing is you think most of the money Henrik got was from dad?? You need to read through the finaincials he got a lot of loans. He is also in major debt. We know this for fact because of the financials. What proof do you have AV is losing money?? Also DarkFall is not the only way AV makes money. Maybe you should not comment about things you do not have solid proof of.
Fact we have solid proof MO is failing
NON fact we do not have solid financial proof AV is failing.
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The longevity of the game relies heavily on the guillability of the userbase. The stupider the user, the more likely the game will go on. People "came back" for Dawn, and what did they get? A broken assed, terrible game that is nothing like an "MO 2.0" which was so long touted.
When they get territory control, do you REALLY think it's going to work? Of course not -- but stupid people that don't learn lessons the first time around will come back to the game expecting the world, and then be disappointed, but not leaving before sticking around a few months. Welcome to the new business model.
but like i said, territory control is content most people will enjoy. New horses and cooking isnt. Its that simple TC is what people want its content that will further the lfie of the game. Nothing which came in dawn did that, nothing whcih was coming in dawn was gonig to do that as i raised many concenrs before the patch wnet live over what was gonig to be in it. I dont have those issues with TC so im confident it will be much better recieved, sure the game will likely loose some people with bugs introduced in TC update but it wont loose even more through a lack of new content, unlike dawn.
When i login to mo i enjoy my time playing the game, i dont see how im being decieved or gullable. If i was subscribing jsut based off of a possible future for MO then yea but im not im subscribed because i enjoy the game, the fact that mo also has plenty of exciting features planned is just something to look forward to. i do prefer the new mounts for the most part, i just think it was the wrong time to add them to the game.
darkfall 1.0 is likely to close down, yea and be replaced with 2.0 something mant of the community feel cheated about, sicne there has been patches promised for almost a year that never materialised and 0 patches for lnog stretches of time only for them to announce yes were working on a new darkfall when originally they replied no we arent. Also wipe or no wipe, cap or no cap, from reading the forums the community are up in arms and even the fanboys are questioning their loyalty. I personally look forward to darkfall 2.0 and will liekyl give it a go. But prehaps all the fuss on thier forums is a warning that it would only end badly.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/325963/I-fear-Darkfall-will-be-shut-down-soon.html
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
nightmare you are just the worst for typos lol. how fast do you type?
when you begin considering buying stock to force mmo employees out of crappilly run games, i think its time to flush that turd down the toilet.
i mean seriously. what's next, running for congress to change the laws regarding mmo development? MO is a never was. move on. jump on board embers of caerus like everyone else is doing.
Just to understand, the whole "content machine" SV are talking about, is in fact a feature that requires a large and active population in order to work?
Nice !
I hope you enjoy skirmishing with 5 half naked dudes over an empty hill, cause that's pretty much what its going to look like.
Not sure how it is in his country, but I believe in the majority of countries the CEO is BY LAW responsible of properly running his company and can be sued if he mismanaged the company. Poeple invest the money, there not giving it away, they have certain rights and the CEO of a public company is responsible to maintain a healty company.
example: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2367786,00.asp#fbid=vclVfbZEXSm - "a group of shareholders have filed suit against the company's board, alleging, among other things, gross mismanagement and waste of corporate assets." So accoding to this arrticle even the whole board.
Like I said though are the laws different there?
I seriously never understood the hate for this developer.
I went to a resturant before because the outside of the store looked nice, ordered an appetizer and it was quite good. When my entree came out I discovered it wasnt that great and the staff had low to mediocre service. I never returned to the restaurant.
Not sure why some people research the owner of the resturant and sit outside the restaurant in thier tye-dye banging bongos, picketing and boycotting the place and always speaking of suing the place(but never doing it). Its just weird on that end.
Ive played MO, had fun for a while, found out the company wont fix bugs and allows exploits, and quit playing... never looking back.
PS-(Dont insert some lame response about how you went to a restaurant and got food poisoning and had a retarded baby and its all Henricks fault).
This is a forum and I find this thread a very interesting an relevant discussion regarding the liability of the CEO and board to the shareholders. This discussion is from an shareholder point of view not that of a regular player. So the analogy of your is incorrect.
Ahh, So why dont the shareholders sue? I'm not a securities lawyer myself but I'm sure there is a legal course of action they can take instead of talking about it on a gaming forum. If there isnt then... Oh well, accept the investment risk and invest a little smarter next time as you only have yourself to blame for investing in a penny stock niche gaming indie developer.
The DF community is always pissed about one thing or another, and the forums are an extremely poor indicator of the state of things. Some of the most rabid haters still hold a sub specifically so they can spread disinformation and outright lies on the subscriber forums.
Not the most accurate way to judge the perception of the fanbase overall, the majority are looking forward to the changes coming to the game.
Anyways, let's stay on topic here, this thread isn't about DF.
Duno.. Might be coz the combined shares are less worth then the cost from a court case. simply not worth it, the game has no value, the game engines are all 3th party so worth nothing also. at most they would get is some computers whit old software licenses ( the programming tools) the building the team resides in is a rented place (remember from some fan post who went there) the game servers are rented soooo so far I mentioned only a minor software license that might be worth a very tiny bit/fraction of the invested amount .. there is simply nothing of worth and its better to let some corrupt Greek sit in some office dooming them self slowly, write of the cost and get tax refunds or if very lucky see a amazing turn around some day bringing in millions and making the game/company actual worth fighting over.
i recieved yet another free month of gametime for the last pic of the month, (2x i have won it) so of course i wont be canceling my subscription. But i will likely resub after this month anyway because recently i have been having plenty of fun in MO rolling with a few people in a small pvp group, mainly guildies.
im not complaining about darkfall, the darkfall community is doing that. All i know is im looking forward to seeing if darkfall 2.0 fixes the obvious issues with darkfalls game mechanics so it doesnt fail like darkfall 1.0 did.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
The winner of the September picture contest was Huh, an account that only joined in September 2011 so is not one of your accounts (unless of course you only play the game on trial accounts or bought another copy of the game, but you have stated that is not the case). So which contest did you win? It was not the "last pic of the month" so any game time added would have expired by now considering the screenshot contest was suspended for a long time.
I also think it is telling that it apparently took free game time to get you to play. If you will only play it for free, you cannot consider the game worth a monthly fee.
You then say you are having fun with your guildies, when AQ has pretty much quit (according to your own members posts on the official forums). Do you also claim the population is rising then, as threads on the official are full of people who cannot find any PvP apart from occasional guard zone skirmishes. Who is right? Those posters are you, who only a couple of weeks ago was going to quit until he was given free game time by SV?
As for Darkfall, if you consider Darkfall 1.0 a failure, how can you regard MO as anything other than an unmitigated disaster? Darkfall is in FAR FAR better shape than MO will ever be.
Actually if it wasn't for the possibility to train in ALL skills, DarkFall would be nearly perfect.
I dont think issueing new shares is an obscure swedish law as per your post on page one.... but yes Starvault is a circus.
SV likes to reward the truly faithful and its helps with marketing.
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i did buy 2 acconuts yes, i created the forum account in septemder using my second acconut due to issues with my main forum account which were resolved later. After i posted the screenshot under my alt account. my alt account is indeed HUH which i won billy or cyde will back me up on that. theres about 6 people still playing from my guild, billy, gigamo, zoltan, me ,darran, reprobate, alfie (sometimes) , afterlife (sometimes) along iwth friends who arent in aq.
darkfall has 1 year of release time over MO, i bleeive in 1 more year from now mo will be in better shape than darkfall is currently. if it lives 1 more year of course. If both games live another year darkfall 2.0 and MO will be interesting to be able to compare them both.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
Yes thats him for the first part.
For the second part you are way, way off. The Darkfall game engine is top-notch. It blows away Unreal/Atlas. A year from now Mortal will still have the same shitty engine, and everyone will be playing DF 2.0.
More development time will not make Mortal better, because DF keeps getting better and better. The new siege system is friggin awesome and everyone is really positive about it.
For some reason Death thinks Darkfall is failing but not MO. Strange
Perhaps that would change if AV gave him some free game time?
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wouldnt hurt
AV have way more overheads and expenses than SV. They have 2 servers to support, they didnt get funding from their father unlike henrik althoguh i know the greek goverment paid some of it im not sure what terms they were under to pay it back or anything, also look at the current financial crisis greece is in. They have way mroe developers to pay who are likely on much higher wages than sv staff, the community is stating the pop is at an all time low. I beleive SV can function on a shoe string budget but AV cannot they might have a higher pop but they have much higher overheads compared to sv.
From what i can gather darkfall2.0 is sounding great, hopefully the grind will be cut down and im more than willing to give it a try, but there is no denying the current underlying fear of the darkfall forums that 2.0 might never surface.
Of course MO has been on a slippy slope since release, Thats plain to see by anyone, the population was way way higher on rleease than now. Its unlikely to ever see those numbers again anytime soon. The game has problems and the developers keep breaking stuff with each of their previous patches, But that doesnt mean i dont enjoy the game or that i think the TC update will increase the population and be a great addition to its feature list, Because i do enjoy it and i do think the TC update will make a difference.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
DF started as a hobby project in 1997: http://www.sickenger.com/articles/the_making_of_darkfall/
Even model design and animations are outsourced, and you may find DF graphics assets in freelance artists portfolios.
50% of goverment loan was repayed quickly after launch - so it's not like AV needs new investors to stay alive.
Okay guys, please.... I know its a standard MO tactic to point fingers and redirect the conversation to another companys shortfalls...BUT...
We are not talking about AV- We are talking about MO. We are also talking about how the CEO has anaged to keep his job when the stock has been steadily falling whilst Henrick has only seemed to lie, hype and disappoint.
I know you love MO Deathy, but you are trying to redirect the whole discussion. What you are doing would be the same as someone who holds Stock in Ford (when they hit their all time low) saying "Oh, Well... Damn Toyota BLOWS UP."
Actually, its not even that since I dont think Av is a Public company... One things for sure- Darkfall works. If it wasnt for "no skillcaps" (a terrible descision and a conversation for the DARKFALL FORUM) the game would be freaking epic.
Please remember, we are discussing Henrick and SV and Mortal Online... If you wish to bring up "Hello Kitty Online" or any other game (to show why Henrick is doing a good job???) Please use the appropriate Forum.
So your reasoning for MO not failing and AV failing is you think most of the money Henrik got was from dad?? You need to read through the finaincials he got a lot of loans. He is also in major debt. We know this for fact because of the financials. What proof do you have AV is losing money?? Also DarkFall is not the only way AV makes money. Maybe you should not comment about things you do not have solid proof of.
Fact we have solid proof MO is failing
NON fact we do not have solid financial proof AV is failing.