I am really hoping they can pull a TOR launch off, but after experiencing how badly Rift was overhyped I won't be preordering until i get some noncontrolled NDA information. I can understand them being tightlipped but we are getting fairly close to the launch date and still no news from actual players. This kind of control definitely makes me more reserved but once again let me state that I hope they can pull it off.
I know it is hard to understand that the game is still in testing. But the game is still in testing. The beta weekends are testing the servers as a stress test. But they have said that they are still testing features. The last one the devs talked about was the mod system and that it is still changing as they test in beta. (From the Dev Tracker on swtor and NYCC)
So until things are set and ready for launch. It won't make sense to bring down the NDA. It would cause issues to have a system talked about in detail, then at launch it is completely different or scraped all together. So I am ok with the NDA up. They are not hiding anything. It is a BW MMORPG with a real RPG like their SPGs. It has been said over and over. So love it or hate it, it is what it is. The rest is subjective. So until you or those you trust play it, the NDA drop won't help that much IMO.
And as far as the press NDA drop. I would think it would be just a review of what they have seen. Not the whole game. But we will find out tomorrow.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
Do we really need an NDA drop at this point? The game is maybe 6 weeks from release, depending on when early release starts, and Bioware is still worried about controlling the amount of information leaking out. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about TOR.
If you buy into the "evil corporation just out to ruin our fun conspiracy oh noes" hokum, sure.
Otherwise, it's just status quo, same as all the other NDAs.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
They're just "Limiting beta information quantities to ensure players have a smooth and high quality hyped state-of-mind at launch". Certain countries without talented gaming journalists are not allowed to read up on the game until they are guaranteed the ultimate reading satisfaction.
Do we really need an NDA drop at this point? The game is maybe 6 weeks from release, depending on when early release starts, and Bioware is still worried about controlling the amount of information leaking out. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about TOR.
If you buy into the "evil corporation just out to ruin our fun conspiracy oh noes" hokum, sure.
Otherwise, it's just status quo, same as all the other NDAs.
Who said anything about an evil corporation? I'm just implying the game sucks. And no, not all MMOs keep their NDA up this close to release. WoW had their NDA down for months before launch.
Do we really need an NDA drop at this point? The game is maybe 6 weeks from release, depending on when early release starts, and Bioware is still worried about controlling the amount of information leaking out. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about TOR.
If you buy into the "evil corporation just out to ruin our fun conspiracy oh noes" hokum, sure.
Otherwise, it's just status quo, same as all the other NDAs.
Who said anything about an evil corporation? I'm just implying the game sucks. And no, not all MMOs keep their NDA up this close to release. WoW had their NDA down for months before launch.
What do you mean by "sucks", do you mean "not an MMO I'd like" or do you mean "a game with no redeemable qualities"?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
A poster on Swtor.com assesses accurately why the NDA will be dropped for (a limited ammount of) press first :
Originally Posted by Grimhand
"Yes, because if they lift the NDA on testers as well, you can bet they'd see a TON of liars/trolls trying to claim they were in beta and that the game is awful and lie through their teeth about features.
It would be a NIGHTMARE for them to clean up.
But leaving it to the press, it is very easy for BioWare to make a post on these forums or a statement clarifying info, or correcting mistakes.
If IGN makes a goof, it is effortless (almost) for SR to make a dev post and say thus. If "Random Beta tester X" on another games forums makes a goof and poisons a bunch of previously interested players to not buy the game, that is EXTREMELY difficult for BioWare to isolate and fix.
The NDA doesn't negate any issues of troll type posts on the internet but it helps immensely to keep that number low."
Simple rule on press embargoes: unless you've been told you're under embargo, you're a tester. Ergo, no, you can't talk about the game.
To those thinking of this game I beg you to do your research. If there were a full NDA lift tommorow I would not hold back on my negative reviews and I will leave it there. This is not trolling, but please look into this game hard.
This makes no sense, we can't talk about stuff that is public knowledge as of tomorrow? Is that what he's saying? Bollocks
It is based on the theory, that journalists will honestly tell you, the game developer, what they think about the game. They THINK they can control that only friendly journalists will write about TOR. Which, as someone who worked as journalist and was the object of journalism, I can safely say is wrong. Journalists will always lie and pretend to be friendly to get a sensational story afterwards. Cheating and treachery is the basic creed of journalism. Trust me, I know first hand. So their idea will not work anyway.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
A partial (and controlled) NDA drop tells me BW isn't exactly confident in their product.
This close to release, and you're still worried about negative press? That doesn't bold well for your game...
You're basically telling everyone: "Yeah, if we lift the NDA completely, people are going to s*** all over our game."
Have some confidence BW! Drop the NDA completely and let the world discuss the game openely!
If it's as good as you think it is, negative press be damned. The game will speak for itself, right?
I don't buy the whole "There would be a huge mess for them to clean up with all the trolls/idiots ragging on the game..."
Newsflash: Tons of people have already been ragging on the game for years, and if you know where to look, you can find plenty of (recent) opinions from beta testers that are disappointed by it. So what's the difference if the NDA is actually dropped? Are they worried that the impressions journalists have of the game will match up to what's already been said by some of the nay sayers?
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
This makes me think they have something to hide. There would be no reason to have a controlled NDA lift if there wasnt. I will not preorder because of this. If real players say the game is good and fun after release I will buy it. Better to wait, IMO. I dont trust reviews from hand picked friendly journalists...
Personally i think controlling the NDA to the press is a good idea, they can show the press the most polished areas so far, and not shwo them the reason the beta testing is going ahead, aka the bits they are still testing...
The game isn't finished and to be fair a mmorpg souldn't ever be, but they can only polish parts of the game that they are happy with and not testing anymore. A reviewer will also see both sides of the coin or should, where as a player that doesn't want to play the game, or possible didn't play the game, will troll about it for their own satisfaction.
Gett the reviewers out their with their preview views and get good publicity, open the nda up fully with 2 months till release and trollers will troll and the reviewers wouldn't be seen.
Simple rule on press embargoes: unless you've been told you're under embargo, you're a tester. Ergo, no, you can't talk about the game.
To those thinking of this game I beg you to do your research. If there were a full NDA lift tommorow I would not hold back on my negative reviews and I will leave it there. This is not trolling, but please look into this game hard.
This makes no sense, we can't talk about stuff that is public knowledge as of tomorrow? Is that what he's saying? Bollocks
It is based on the theory, that journalists will honestly tell you, the game developer, what they think about the game. They THINK they can control that only friendly journalists will write about TOR. Which, as someone who worked as journalist and was the object of journalism, I can safely say is wrong. Journalists will always lie and pretend to be friendly to get a sensational story afterwards. Cheating and treachery is the basic creed of journalism. Trust me, I know first hand. So their idea will not work anyway.
Read the post I made before yours.
I think their tactic isn't so much about controlling WHAT the media say, but limiting the AMOUNT of sources which say anything at all. Due to this:
1. That limited amount of sources will get a relatively high exposure compared to thousands of sources at once
2. They can easily add to, dispell or react to what these sources are bringing out (which wouldn't be the case in a full NDA drop).
It's pretty obvious that this is a step towards an NDA drop but it gives them a window to address any discrepancies between the beta which people have been testing and the game at launch. Before those thousands of beta impressions will be fired off and judge the game based on a 2+ months before launch client.
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
Sorry, not buying it.
Major spoilers like that are easily avoidable by, *gasp*, closing your browser, or better yet, not reading a preview/review that says "MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!"
I think us gamers are pretty savy enough to take care of ourselves in that regard. We don't need BW's NDA protection for that.
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
Earlier in the thread, a couple people implied that EA is not an evil money grubbing corporation. That was bad, but now I see you expressing the naive belief that these enormous corporations who are creating this game solely for money are actually looking out for the consumer.
I think their tactic isn't so much about controlling WHAT the media say, but limiting the AMOUNT of sources which say anything at all. Due to this:
1. That limited amount of sources will get a relatively high exposure compared to thousands of sources at once
2. They can easily add to, dispell or react to what these sources are bringing out (which wouldn't be the case in a full NDA drop).
It's pretty obvious that this is a step towards an NDA drop but it gives them a window to address any discrepancies between the beta which people have been testing and the game at launch. Before those thousands of beta impressions will be fired off and judge the game based on a 2+ months before launch client.
That's pretty smart, in fact.
All of these reasons, plus half of the general public still cannot make the difference between:
This product is bad (which is followed by an absence of arguments)
I don't like the product (which is usually followed by arguments, at which point someone can make their own idea of the game)
Add this to the fact that the people who dislike a product feel that they have a mission to tell the world how bad it is (e.g. official forums are full of complaints, rarely positive posts such as: I really like this aspect of the game).
Explosive mix indeed, that can clearly hurt their sales. So if I were EA, I'd save myself the pain and do a partial NDA drop at this stage as well.
Simple rule on press embargoes: unless you've been told you're under embargo, you're a tester. Ergo, no, you can't talk about the game.
Ye i think its pretty bad when the press is echoing the rumors and spreading the missinformation and the dev team is suddnely bound to code and release aborted features to not look as utterly fools.
I have been reading thos whole topic and I get the idea that the "partial NDA drop" means this:
"Only the press (we have in our backpocket) should put out positive reviews about the best part of our game, the starter zone, and all player oppinions who are negative should be silenced (because clearly they are trolls/rants)."
Bioware wants a grip on this stronger than the current manipulation of the Chinese goverment on their media channels. I find it really hard to believe that actual "trolls/rants" could overshadow the number of legit reviews about SW:ToR by beta testers. I don't really understand why they are panicing so hard, or is there really something fishy going on?
Other than that... only from the starting zone? What? Yeah Age of Conan was a great game... if you looked only at the first 10 levels. The game changed completely around (when it was launched) at lvl 20 when it should get 5.5/10 reviews instead of the 9/10 points it received from all these beloved press websites who only test the first 10 levels of a game. Allot of game websites have learned from this, but now they are only allowed to talk about the start... so close to release?
It's not really screaming "we feel confident about our game" at all. But I guess lets wait and see?
Once the gate is open there will be no control of anything, testers will come forward and put out here what they did not like. The suits at EA and Bioware will not be able to stop it.
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
If you wait long enought... the NDA is gonna be lifted on december 20. Just dont pre order, dont buy, wait and you will have tons of reviews starting on this day.
I my self am hyped like hell with this game but Im gonna wait. Im feel like a good thing that at least we have a partial NDA lift, I will read all I can find about swtor from the press with the NDA drop and then will wait more, until I have a clear picture, that means a want the good reviews but I want to wait for the bad ones too.
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
Sorry, not buying it.
Major spoilers like that are easily avoidable by, *gasp*, closing your browser, or better yet, not reading a preview/review that says "MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!"
I think us gamers are pretty savy enough to take care of ourselves in that regard. We don't need BW's NDA protection for that.
You but then you have idiots who will ruin the story just for the sake of being idiots. They are not going to but spoiler tags on their posts, they will just post something with a catchy title, you click it then the story is ruined. Don't know how many times I saw Snape kills Dumbledore, not that I cared since I don't read Harry Potter, but I am sure the people who wanted to finish the book did.
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
Two weeks after Red Dead Redemption had launched someone had spoiled it for me without warning. I was mad as a hornet.
I ended up not playing for like the next 7 months, and later come back to find out I had been missing out on a great game.
Thank God we have the internet so folks can ruin surprises for others. /sarcasm off
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
You but then you have idiots who will ruin the story just for the sake of being idiots. They are not going to but spoiler tags on their posts, they will just post something with a catchy title, you click it then the story is ruined. Don't know how many times I saw Snape kills Dumbledore, not that I cared since I don't read Harry Potter, but I am sure the people who wanted to finish the book did.
Seems stupid. Why call it a controlled NDA lift. Thist isn't the first time they've let game Journalists give impressions about the game based on "limited" information...
they aren't calling it a controlled NDA lift. that was the OP's term. Bioware is calling it a press embargo drop just the other times they let the press have extended time with the game outside of a convention like you mention. this play time just happens to have talen place on the testing servers as opposed to at bioware austin or some lucas arts or EA building like in the past.
You but then you have idiots who will ruin the story just for the sake of being idiots. They are not going to but spoiler tags on their posts, they will just post something with a catchy title, you click it then the story is ruined. Don't know how many times I saw Snape kills Dumbledore, not that I cared since I don't read Harry Potter, but I am sure the people who wanted to finish the book did.
FAAAAAA SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE?!?!?!?!?!?!!! put spoiler tags mannnn
But really, why are people saying Bioware is scared because they aren't dropping the NDA, Rift dropped their NDA during 4th or 5th beta phase, WoW didn't drop NDA till launch (?), have GW2 drop their NDA yet?
NDA exist for a reason, no one likes people to see their product at a unpolish state,
Movie plot don't get leak before the release date (well there are few that would get leak but they are actually unlawful)
Apple doesn't release info on iPhone until it is ready to launch
Would you like people to open the door when you are midway changing in a changeroom?
NDA is a very usual practise, yet people just likes to hate on Bioware because the game isn't made for them.
Whine all you want, but you are just whining in the end.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
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I know it is hard to understand that the game is still in testing. But the game is still in testing. The beta weekends are testing the servers as a stress test. But they have said that they are still testing features. The last one the devs talked about was the mod system and that it is still changing as they test in beta. (From the Dev Tracker on swtor and NYCC)
So until things are set and ready for launch. It won't make sense to bring down the NDA. It would cause issues to have a system talked about in detail, then at launch it is completely different or scraped all together. So I am ok with the NDA up. They are not hiding anything. It is a BW MMORPG with a real RPG like their SPGs. It has been said over and over. So love it or hate it, it is what it is. The rest is subjective. So until you or those you trust play it, the NDA drop won't help that much IMO.
And as far as the press NDA drop. I would think it would be just a review of what they have seen. Not the whole game. But we will find out tomorrow.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
If you buy into the "evil corporation just out to ruin our fun conspiracy oh noes" hokum, sure.
Otherwise, it's just status quo, same as all the other NDAs.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Are you guys going to have an impression?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
They're just "Limiting beta information quantities to ensure players have a smooth and high quality hyped state-of-mind at launch". Certain countries without talented gaming journalists are not allowed to read up on the game until they are guaranteed the ultimate reading satisfaction.
Who said anything about an evil corporation? I'm just implying the game sucks. And no, not all MMOs keep their NDA up this close to release. WoW had their NDA down for months before launch.
What do you mean by "sucks", do you mean "not an MMO I'd like" or do you mean "a game with no redeemable qualities"?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Looks like IGN will have a lot of coverage the coming weeks. Starting tomorrow.
A poster on Swtor.com assesses accurately why the NDA will be dropped for (a limited ammount of) press first :
Originally Posted by Grimhand
"Yes, because if they lift the NDA on testers as well, you can bet they'd see a TON of liars/trolls trying to claim they were in beta and that the game is awful and lie through their teeth about features.
It would be a NIGHTMARE for them to clean up.
But leaving it to the press, it is very easy for BioWare to make a post on these forums or a statement clarifying info, or correcting mistakes.
If IGN makes a goof, it is effortless (almost) for SR to make a dev post and say thus. If "Random Beta tester X" on another games forums makes a goof and poisons a bunch of previously interested players to not buy the game, that is EXTREMELY difficult for BioWare to isolate and fix.
The NDA doesn't negate any issues of troll type posts on the internet but it helps immensely to keep that number low."
My brand new bloggity blog.
It is based on the theory, that journalists will honestly tell you, the game developer, what they think about the game. They THINK they can control that only friendly journalists will write about TOR. Which, as someone who worked as journalist and was the object of journalism, I can safely say is wrong. Journalists will always lie and pretend to be friendly to get a sensational story afterwards. Cheating and treachery is the basic creed of journalism. Trust me, I know first hand. So their idea will not work anyway.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
A partial (and controlled) NDA drop tells me BW isn't exactly confident in their product.
This close to release, and you're still worried about negative press? That doesn't bold well for your game...
You're basically telling everyone: "Yeah, if we lift the NDA completely, people are going to s*** all over our game."
Have some confidence BW! Drop the NDA completely and let the world discuss the game openely!
If it's as good as you think it is, negative press be damned. The game will speak for itself, right?
I don't buy the whole "There would be a huge mess for them to clean up with all the trolls/idiots ragging on the game..."
Newsflash: Tons of people have already been ragging on the game for years, and if you know where to look, you can find plenty of (recent) opinions from beta testers that are disappointed by it. So what's the difference if the NDA is actually dropped? Are they worried that the impressions journalists have of the game will match up to what's already been said by some of the nay sayers?
Another painful collection of posts by the tin foil hat wearing members of this site.
BW wants to control the rate of information released about the game for one reason only: To protect the story arcs from being released prior to launch.
Outside of this anyone can obtain TONS of game mechanic information, patch notes, beta reports and class information by learning how to use Google. Everyone already knows what to expect from this star wars mmo when it comes to the 'mmo' part. Story arcs is ALL they care about as actual gameplay isn't a secret and game stability is on course by their standards.
Imagine if every single player who went to purchase KOTOR was told the ending of the game at the counter. It isn't something Bioware really wishes to happen if you can possibly grasp that concept. From many of the posts here it is obvious some of you don't.
You stay sassy!
This makes me think they have something to hide. There would be no reason to have a controlled NDA lift if there wasnt. I will not preorder because of this. If real players say the game is good and fun after release I will buy it. Better to wait, IMO. I dont trust reviews from hand picked friendly journalists...
Personally i think controlling the NDA to the press is a good idea, they can show the press the most polished areas so far, and not shwo them the reason the beta testing is going ahead, aka the bits they are still testing...
The game isn't finished and to be fair a mmorpg souldn't ever be, but they can only polish parts of the game that they are happy with and not testing anymore. A reviewer will also see both sides of the coin or should, where as a player that doesn't want to play the game, or possible didn't play the game, will troll about it for their own satisfaction.
Gett the reviewers out their with their preview views and get good publicity, open the nda up fully with 2 months till release and trollers will troll and the reviewers wouldn't be seen.
Read the post I made before yours.
I think their tactic isn't so much about controlling WHAT the media say, but limiting the AMOUNT of sources which say anything at all. Due to this:
1. That limited amount of sources will get a relatively high exposure compared to thousands of sources at once
2. They can easily add to, dispell or react to what these sources are bringing out (which wouldn't be the case in a full NDA drop).
It's pretty obvious that this is a step towards an NDA drop but it gives them a window to address any discrepancies between the beta which people have been testing and the game at launch. Before those thousands of beta impressions will be fired off and judge the game based on a 2+ months before launch client.
That's pretty smart, in fact.
My brand new bloggity blog.
Sorry, not buying it.
Major spoilers like that are easily avoidable by, *gasp*, closing your browser, or better yet, not reading a preview/review that says "MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!"
I think us gamers are pretty savy enough to take care of ourselves in that regard. We don't need BW's NDA protection for that.
Earlier in the thread, a couple people implied that EA is not an evil money grubbing corporation. That was bad, but now I see you expressing the naive belief that these enormous corporations who are creating this game solely for money are actually looking out for the consumer.
You'll learn.
Sarcasm is not a crime!
All of these reasons, plus half of the general public still cannot make the difference between:
This product is bad (which is followed by an absence of arguments)
I don't like the product (which is usually followed by arguments, at which point someone can make their own idea of the game)
Add this to the fact that the people who dislike a product feel that they have a mission to tell the world how bad it is (e.g. official forums are full of complaints, rarely positive posts such as: I really like this aspect of the game).
Explosive mix indeed, that can clearly hurt their sales. So if I were EA, I'd save myself the pain and do a partial NDA drop at this stage as well.
Proof? This forum, this thread.
Ye i think its pretty bad when the press is echoing the rumors and spreading the missinformation and the dev team is suddnely bound to code and release aborted features to not look as utterly fools.
I have been reading thos whole topic and I get the idea that the "partial NDA drop" means this:
"Only the press (we have in our backpocket) should put out positive reviews about the best part of our game, the starter zone, and all player oppinions who are negative should be silenced (because clearly they are trolls/rants)."
Bioware wants a grip on this stronger than the current manipulation of the Chinese goverment on their media channels. I find it really hard to believe that actual "trolls/rants" could overshadow the number of legit reviews about SW:ToR by beta testers. I don't really understand why they are panicing so hard, or is there really something fishy going on?
Other than that... only from the starting zone? What? Yeah Age of Conan was a great game... if you looked only at the first 10 levels. The game changed completely around (when it was launched) at lvl 20 when it should get 5.5/10 reviews instead of the 9/10 points it received from all these beloved press websites who only test the first 10 levels of a game. Allot of game websites have learned from this, but now they are only allowed to talk about the start... so close to release?
It's not really screaming "we feel confident about our game" at all. But I guess lets wait and see?
Why are the doomsayers all out in full force?
Did the apocalypse move forward a year?
*rans off and hide in a cave
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Once the gate is open there will be no control of anything, testers will come forward and put out here what they did not like. The suits at EA and Bioware will not be able to stop it.
MAGA
If you wait long enought... the NDA is gonna be lifted on december 20. Just dont pre order, dont buy, wait and you will have tons of reviews starting on this day.
I my self am hyped like hell with this game but Im gonna wait. Im feel like a good thing that at least we have a partial NDA lift, I will read all I can find about swtor from the press with the NDA drop and then will wait more, until I have a clear picture, that means a want the good reviews but I want to wait for the bad ones too.
You but then you have idiots who will ruin the story just for the sake of being idiots. They are not going to but spoiler tags on their posts, they will just post something with a catchy title, you click it then the story is ruined. Don't know how many times I saw Snape kills Dumbledore, not that I cared since I don't read Harry Potter, but I am sure the people who wanted to finish the book did.
In Bioware we trust!
Two weeks after Red Dead Redemption had launched someone had spoiled it for me without warning. I was mad as a hornet.
I ended up not playing for like the next 7 months, and later come back to find out I had been missing out on a great game.
Thank God we have the internet so folks can ruin surprises for others. /sarcasm off
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
!!SPOILER!!!!!
;P
also:
they aren't calling it a controlled NDA lift. that was the OP's term. Bioware is calling it a press embargo drop just the other times they let the press have extended time with the game outside of a convention like you mention. this play time just happens to have talen place on the testing servers as opposed to at bioware austin or some lucas arts or EA building like in the past.
FAAAAAA SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE?!?!?!?!?!?!!! put spoiler tags mannnn
But really, why are people saying Bioware is scared because they aren't dropping the NDA, Rift dropped their NDA during 4th or 5th beta phase, WoW didn't drop NDA till launch (?), have GW2 drop their NDA yet?
NDA exist for a reason, no one likes people to see their product at a unpolish state,
Movie plot don't get leak before the release date (well there are few that would get leak but they are actually unlawful)
Apple doesn't release info on iPhone until it is ready to launch
Would you like people to open the door when you are midway changing in a changeroom?
NDA is a very usual practise, yet people just likes to hate on Bioware because the game isn't made for them.
Whine all you want, but you are just whining in the end.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.