Well when I first saw it I thought it must have been a big gaffaw by Blizzard, because no one could take such a thing seriously. It felt like Blizzard was spoofing itself. Mists of Panderia, the name, sounds a lot like the latter EQ content expansions. That is to say it feels mailed in. It also does not feel much like an epic story despite all the changes and while I understand there needs to be some time of low key stuff after Cataclysm (that is good story telling) this feels a little too low key.
So I have read over the details and looked at everything and I still have to say this feels mailed in. They came up with this idea likely in a brainstorming session and like all ideas, good or bad, it gained momentum and nobody felt like they could say no. Worse, they may not have had a better idea for a new race or class.
The way WoW occasionally pokes a little fun at itself or at pop culture is one of the best parts of the game. MoP seems like they are trying that on a larger scale and wrapping a totally useless Talent Tree upgrade to fix a problem they created in the first place. If they had left talents alone or made it possible and viable for people to use Talents from all three trees to be viable, they would not need this many Talent Tree revisions. Also, how is it going to solve the gear issues? Even if there is no longer a required Talent spec for certain game content, people will still focus on a player's gear and the same problem with folks being excluded will continue.
I stopped playing the game for many reasons they are trying to "fix" but my feeling is why? Just be MORE of what you are, why bother trying to please everyone?
My ultimate opinion on MoP is that is the disappointment that sets us up for WoW 2
I'm not sure why people are reacting so strongly over this. I mean, it's WOW... I don't understand why anyone is still playing it, let alone expecting something amazing from them...
I like WoW, and I like just about everything listed in the expansion. The game feels stale and repetitive, and some of the new features may freshen up the game.
The panda race is a problem for me. The cow and space goats were tolerable, but a race that's also a popular cute stuffed animal and a main cartoon movie character just crosses that line for me. Some people think that since WoW panda lore came before the Kung Fu Panda movies, my reaction should align itself chronologically. Nonsense, they both exist now.
I dismiss the argument that it was already in the lore, so it's ok. It was in the lore, but not in my face everyday. I could ignore this nonsense, but that won't be true anymore. That's the difference.
I dismiss the argument that it's ok because it's already in other games. I don't play other games, I play WoW. If something on the character selection screen looks like a toy on my kid's bed, I don't play it. And I don't want Blizzard to follow the lead of other games.
I dismiss the argument that WoW is and always was a childish, goofy, silly game and this fits perfectly. It's called Warcraft. It's based on Warhammer. My guild mates have always been adults, and we don't fill Vent with fart jokes and giggling. It's not some hybrid of Teletubbies and Knock Knock jokes. Yes, there is silliness in WoW, but I don't recall that goofiness was the primary tone and mood of WoW, but always off to the side. With cute pandas, it is less WoW and more Toy Story MMO.
I dismiss that 'everybody wanted the Panda race'. I get that some people liked the April Fool's joke, but that's not the same thing as a true polling and measure of the user's opinion. Where did Blizzard list a couple potential races and get a vote? I honor Blizzard's right to choose and not ask us, but when Metzen has to clarify to those dismayed that it is for real, that is very telling of the reaction.
I dismiss that the design of the race (neutral, can join any faction; can play different roles) makes the choice of panda acceptable. Blizzard could have given those attributes to any new race. You want an alternative? Here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Ethereal
I have to say, this makes leaving WoW and trying SWTOR or Secret World a lot easier which, ironically, is exactly the opposite of what Blizzard was looking for.
Anyway, that's just me. If you look forward playing the panda, I salute you!
i hope it go's fully free to play. my nephews play the game 5-7 years old. and love pandas and pokemons. it's simple game really and after you look at it. blizzards got a nice game so children can learn about using the keyboard and getting into online gaming with other children.
it can be complex sometimes so i hope they make it more simple if they intend to market to kids like my nephews and other little kids.
maybe add some math based quest for adding and division. plus make the language filter more robust.
if you think i'm trolling i'm serious not jolking or making fun.
The new skill system is all about choice. U know get your mandatory skills to improve dps and stuff automaticly for choosing your spec as u level. So the chooses u have are actual choices and not the illusion of choice.
Come on there was never any choice in the old trees. Everyone figured out the optimal pvp and pve builds and if u strayed at all u couldnt run pvp or pve in premade groups or ever raid at all.
At least the system now gives u choices to make based on what skill u want more not base3d on what some site says is the best skill to have to raid.
The pandaran are not kung fu panda they have been around longer then kung fu panda as such not a kung fu panda rip off.
Its not a stupid choice when people on forums have been clamoring for it for yrs. Sure the minority vocal people are crying in there milk but thats maybe only 5 pct of player base.
I for one am loking forward to the new expac.
Oh and i expect the new world bosses on pvp realms will make for some fun world pvp as horde and alies fight each other for right to take the boss down. Much like they used to fight over the meeting stone in naxx and other raids .
There wont be a nutral city. They went away from that in cata. They want the focus to be on the war between horde and alliance so i wouldnt expect a nutral city.
I expect them to have there bases on pandaria with portals in the cities to get back to the place u were when u left the island of pandaria.
Just like in cata. I expect org and sw to remain the main city for horde and ally and pandaria to just have horde and ally bases much like areas in cata do.
That and the fact u auto learn skills as u level now as well as can pick talents without a trainer and change them without one means players wont have to go back to city very much if at all so there is no need of a nutral city.
There are 5 complaint threads and 44 non-complaint threads on the first page. There were 0 complaint threads yesterday. For a game that is well known for people complaining almost non-stop that's not too shabby. There are more complaint threads on these forums than there on on Blizzard's forums.
The vast majority of people are not only OK with pandas, they are looking forward to it. There are fewer complaints about this expansion than the last one. Fewer complaints I bet than Burning Crusade. If you think the General Population of WoW, Blizzard's bread and butter is going to quit, you're kidding yourself.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
There are 5 complaint threads and 44 non-complaint threads on the first page. There were 0 complaint threads yesterday. For a game that is well known for people complaining almost non-stop that's not too shabby. There are more complaint threads on these forums than there on on Blizzard's forums.
The vast majority of people are not only OK with pandas, they are looking forward to it. There are fewer complaints about this expansion than the last one. Fewer complaints I bet than Burning Crusade. If you think the General Population of WoW, Blizzard's bread and butter is going to quit, you're kidding yourself.
ER, according to some players/regular readers of the WOW forums Blizzard is moderating and deleting complaint forums threads they feel are redundant,. might explain this imbalance you're pointing to. Starting to do the same thing here.
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Kung fu Panda is only the beginning, the next two races would be Ninja Turtle and Power Rangers.... stupid Blizzard.
There actually was a turtle humanoid race in D&D if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if they were ninjas who ate pizza though.
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There are 5 complaint threads and 44 non-complaint threads on the first page. There were 0 complaint threads yesterday. For a game that is well known for people complaining almost non-stop that's not too shabby. There are more complaint threads on these forums than there on on Blizzard's forums.
The vast majority of people are not only OK with pandas, they are looking forward to it. There are fewer complaints about this expansion than the last one. Fewer complaints I bet than Burning Crusade. If you think the General Population of WoW, Blizzard's bread and butter is going to quit, you're kidding yourself.
ER, according to some players/regular readers of the WOW forums Blizzard is moderating and deleting complaint forums threads they feel are redundant,. might explain this imbalance you're pointing to. Starting to do the same thing here.
However many threads there are (or aren't) doesn't matter in the long run - by Blizzard's own estimates no more than 5% of the player population ever even reads the forums, and less than 1% ever post (and we all know it's that loudest of the 1% that insist they must be heard because only they can speak for everyone else)
In vent with my old guild last night while they were raiding (I left Wow 2 months ago due to boredom) only 5 out of the 30 in the raid channel were outright dismissive of MoP. Most were neutral and 9 were solidly in favor. Take from that what you will.
Blizzard is making Wow so that it is too easy. There is no challenge like the game used to be. It is all about pleasing the "I want it now" crowd and I really do not want anything to do with people who enjoy no challenge.
You do understant that only 1 percent of the woW population has defeted Ragnaros on Heroic mode.
There are 5 complaint threads and 44 non-complaint threads on the first page. There were 0 complaint threads yesterday. For a game that is well known for people complaining almost non-stop that's not too shabby. There are more complaint threads on these forums than there on on Blizzard's forums.
The vast majority of people are not only OK with pandas, they are looking forward to it. There are fewer complaints about this expansion than the last one. Fewer complaints I bet than Burning Crusade. If you think the General Population of WoW, Blizzard's bread and butter is going to quit, you're kidding yourself.
ER, according to some players/regular readers of the WOW forums Blizzard is moderating and deleting complaint forums threads they feel are redundant,. might explain this imbalance you're pointing to. Starting to do the same thing here.
However many threads there are (or aren't) doesn't matter in the long run - by Blizzard's own estimates no more than 5% of the player population ever even reads the forums, and less than 1% ever post (and we all know it's that loudest of the 1% that insist they must be heard because only they can speak for everyone else)
In vent with my old guild last night while they were raiding (I left Wow 2 months ago due to boredom) only 5 out of the 30 in the raid channel were outright dismissive of MoP. Most were neutral and 9 were solidly in favor. Take from that what you will.
30% are in favour, 17 % are outright dismissive and 53% neutral. Thats the point, its a new expansion, they should all be excited about it. Pandas asside the real issue is that there is no wow factor to this expansion. Compare that to what is comming out at about the same time. Incidently you are part of the 1% that post, it does not make you a bad person or your opinions any less valid. edit: percentages :P
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I wasnt even going to comment on this article as it was just too overly positive. I can respect the authors view just fine, but Im getting a little tired of mmorpg.com just gushing over the MoP expansion.
The author hated the Goblin starting area. Okay. And he loathes even looking at the Draeni. Thats a little extreme, but okay I can dig that. But kung fu pandas are awesome sauce. What? How does that even......what?
First we had Illidan - we all giggled in anticipation.
Arthas ? Forget bout it.
Deathwing, not as exposed foe as those before him, but good theme for an expansion as any I guess.
Then we get new allias instead of foes as expansion team. Fearsom - PANDAS ! April fools joke actually became a full expansion.
Done get me wrong, I like new stuff, pokemone pets for one, new talents and all other stuff. Not to mention 4.3 that MoP will lean on ( Transmorf ). But Pandas I just cant chew...
Sorry Blizz, you just wont get me to buy another expansion and resub.
Originally posted by SonofSeth I just find it hillarious watching wannabe adults freaking out over this, and rationalizations they choose. It's awesome!
*grabs popcorn*
I wonder how many people have read more than the words, "Panda" and "Pokemon".
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Blizzard is making Wow so that it is too easy. There is no challenge like the game used to be. It is all about pleasing the "I want it now" crowd and I really do not want anything to do with people who enjoy no challenge.
You do understant that only 1 percent of the woW population has defeted Ragnaros on Heroic mode.
If you compared that to the percentage of actual progressing raiding guilds within the WoW population you would have more of a point. FYI: The entire WoW Pop doesn't raid.
Blizzard is making Wow so that it is too easy. There is no challenge like the game used to be. It is all about pleasing the "I want it now" crowd and I really do not want anything to do with people who enjoy no challenge.
You do understant that only 1 percent of the woW population has defeted Ragnaros on Heroic mode.
If you compared that to the percentage of actual progressing raiding guilds within the WoW population you would have more of a point. FYI: The entire WoW Pop doesn't raid.
and they don't because they can't. not because they don't want to. raiding is a ridiculous element to any game. any element which locks out the majority of your players is ridiculous. it's like having paytv and being told you can only watch one of the 50 odd channels, but that if you watch 10 hours a day and can recite the upcoming guide to what's on for the next year at any given time, then you can unlock another few channels.
i don't think it's making anything easy by letting everyone have a chance to play the game they're paying for. there's nothing challenging about a boss with double lifepoints who never does anything outside of a set series of moves you can easily discover on youtube anyway. the only real challenge with raiding is getting the group together out of the few other guys you know who have egos the size of a small planetoid.
i think the reaction to the latest dumbing down and cute-ing up of wow is similar to everyone's reactions to george lucas.
the reasonb eing, you have a great product with minimal nods at humour and cute. then you get an idea about merchandising and marketing your product and you figure you could make more money if only you just squeezed a few more notches up on the humour and the cute. so, you decide 'return of the jedi' isn't a bad idea.
unfortunately, no one really likes that, so you sit back down and scratch your head. you'd like to make a good product again, but you can't, because now you've got a taste of what it would be like to buy your own island.
so you ramp the humour and the cute up so far you've hit ludicrous speed. and everyone says it's rubbish, and you know it's rubbish, but it sells. it sells because everyone is still desperately clinging to the original idea. which was brilliant.
the real nail in the coffin is when you decide you can go back to your original idea and just kind of wash over it with a lot of cgi.
make it easier to look at.
and hopefully, given time, everyone will forget what the original idea was if they can't ever see it again and one day people won't really know the difference and will think that the original idea was all humour and cute and no game.
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Well when I first saw it I thought it must have been a big gaffaw by Blizzard, because no one could take such a thing seriously. It felt like Blizzard was spoofing itself. Mists of Panderia, the name, sounds a lot like the latter EQ content expansions. That is to say it feels mailed in. It also does not feel much like an epic story despite all the changes and while I understand there needs to be some time of low key stuff after Cataclysm (that is good story telling) this feels a little too low key.
So I have read over the details and looked at everything and I still have to say this feels mailed in. They came up with this idea likely in a brainstorming session and like all ideas, good or bad, it gained momentum and nobody felt like they could say no. Worse, they may not have had a better idea for a new race or class.
The way WoW occasionally pokes a little fun at itself or at pop culture is one of the best parts of the game. MoP seems like they are trying that on a larger scale and wrapping a totally useless Talent Tree upgrade to fix a problem they created in the first place. If they had left talents alone or made it possible and viable for people to use Talents from all three trees to be viable, they would not need this many Talent Tree revisions. Also, how is it going to solve the gear issues? Even if there is no longer a required Talent spec for certain game content, people will still focus on a player's gear and the same problem with folks being excluded will continue.
I stopped playing the game for many reasons they are trying to "fix" but my feeling is why? Just be MORE of what you are, why bother trying to please everyone?
My ultimate opinion on MoP is that is the disappointment that sets us up for WoW 2
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People on the internet tend to overreact often, I'm guilty of it myself.
I'm not sure why people are reacting so strongly over this. I mean, it's WOW... I don't understand why anyone is still playing it, let alone expecting something amazing from them...
I like WoW, and I like just about everything listed in the expansion. The game feels stale and repetitive, and some of the new features may freshen up the game.
The panda race is a problem for me. The cow and space goats were tolerable, but a race that's also a popular cute stuffed animal and a main cartoon movie character just crosses that line for me. Some people think that since WoW panda lore came before the Kung Fu Panda movies, my reaction should align itself chronologically. Nonsense, they both exist now.
I dismiss the argument that it was already in the lore, so it's ok. It was in the lore, but not in my face everyday. I could ignore this nonsense, but that won't be true anymore. That's the difference.
I dismiss the argument that it's ok because it's already in other games. I don't play other games, I play WoW. If something on the character selection screen looks like a toy on my kid's bed, I don't play it. And I don't want Blizzard to follow the lead of other games.
I dismiss the argument that WoW is and always was a childish, goofy, silly game and this fits perfectly. It's called Warcraft. It's based on Warhammer. My guild mates have always been adults, and we don't fill Vent with fart jokes and giggling. It's not some hybrid of Teletubbies and Knock Knock jokes. Yes, there is silliness in WoW, but I don't recall that goofiness was the primary tone and mood of WoW, but always off to the side. With cute pandas, it is less WoW and more Toy Story MMO.
I dismiss that 'everybody wanted the Panda race'. I get that some people liked the April Fool's joke, but that's not the same thing as a true polling and measure of the user's opinion. Where did Blizzard list a couple potential races and get a vote? I honor Blizzard's right to choose and not ask us, but when Metzen has to clarify to those dismayed that it is for real, that is very telling of the reaction.
I dismiss that the design of the race (neutral, can join any faction; can play different roles) makes the choice of panda acceptable. Blizzard could have given those attributes to any new race. You want an alternative? Here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Ethereal
I have to say, this makes leaving WoW and trying SWTOR or Secret World a lot easier which, ironically, is exactly the opposite of what Blizzard was looking for.
Anyway, that's just me. If you look forward playing the panda, I salute you!
i hope it go's fully free to play. my nephews play the game 5-7 years old. and love pandas and pokemons. it's simple game really and after you look at it. blizzards got a nice game so children can learn about using the keyboard and getting into online gaming with other children.
it can be complex sometimes so i hope they make it more simple if they intend to market to kids like my nephews and other little kids.
maybe add some math based quest for adding and division. plus make the language filter more robust.
if you think i'm trolling i'm serious not jolking or making fun.
The new skill system is all about choice. U know get your mandatory skills to improve dps and stuff automaticly for choosing your spec as u level. So the chooses u have are actual choices and not the illusion of choice.
Come on there was never any choice in the old trees. Everyone figured out the optimal pvp and pve builds and if u strayed at all u couldnt run pvp or pve in premade groups or ever raid at all.
At least the system now gives u choices to make based on what skill u want more not base3d on what some site says is the best skill to have to raid.
The pandaran are not kung fu panda they have been around longer then kung fu panda as such not a kung fu panda rip off.
Its not a stupid choice when people on forums have been clamoring for it for yrs. Sure the minority vocal people are crying in there milk but thats maybe only 5 pct of player base.
I for one am loking forward to the new expac.
Oh and i expect the new world bosses on pvp realms will make for some fun world pvp as horde and alies fight each other for right to take the boss down. Much like they used to fight over the meeting stone in naxx and other raids .
i dont play wow anymore (and wont play tho) , anyway , when u release "pandas" but wait...
u release pandas for BOTH FACTIONS , and vie a new class Monk
both factions having pandas? , 10 pandas vs 10 pandas wsg 10-19 will sure be fun
when u are in a city (and Mop) will have surely a neutral city (shatt /dalaran) , with alliance pandas and horde pandas EVERYWHERE?
join random BG > 5 pandas ally , 4 horde ....cool 9/20 are pandas!
oh and since brewmaster is the "monk tank" expect to have fail panda tanks everywhere
pandas brewmaster are the new Blood elfs Dk tanks
There wont be a nutral city. They went away from that in cata. They want the focus to be on the war between horde and alliance so i wouldnt expect a nutral city.
I expect them to have there bases on pandaria with portals in the cities to get back to the place u were when u left the island of pandaria.
Just like in cata. I expect org and sw to remain the main city for horde and ally and pandaria to just have horde and ally bases much like areas in cata do.
That and the fact u auto learn skills as u level now as well as can pick talents without a trainer and change them without one means players wont have to go back to city very much if at all so there is no need of a nutral city.
goto Blizzards mists forums
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/2592425/
There are 5 complaint threads and 44 non-complaint threads on the first page. There were 0 complaint threads yesterday. For a game that is well known for people complaining almost non-stop that's not too shabby. There are more complaint threads on these forums than there on on Blizzard's forums.
The vast majority of people are not only OK with pandas, they are looking forward to it. There are fewer complaints about this expansion than the last one. Fewer complaints I bet than Burning Crusade. If you think the General Population of WoW, Blizzard's bread and butter is going to quit, you're kidding yourself.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
ER, according to some players/regular readers of the WOW forums Blizzard is moderating and deleting complaint forums threads they feel are redundant,. might explain this imbalance you're pointing to. Starting to do the same thing here.
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There actually was a turtle humanoid race in D&D if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if they were ninjas who ate pizza though.
However many threads there are (or aren't) doesn't matter in the long run - by Blizzard's own estimates no more than 5% of the player population ever even reads the forums, and less than 1% ever post (and we all know it's that loudest of the 1% that insist they must be heard because only they can speak for everyone else)
In vent with my old guild last night while they were raiding (I left Wow 2 months ago due to boredom) only 5 out of the 30 in the raid channel were outright dismissive of MoP. Most were neutral and 9 were solidly in favor. Take from that what you will.
You do understant that only 1 percent of the woW population has defeted Ragnaros on Heroic mode.
30% are in favour, 17 % are outright dismissive and 53% neutral. Thats the point, its a new expansion, they should all be excited about it. Pandas asside the real issue is that there is no wow factor to this expansion. Compare that to what is comming out at about the same time. Incidently you are part of the 1% that post, it does not make you a bad person or your opinions any less valid. edit: percentages :P
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Blizz really have lost direction with the Kung-Fu Panda expansion. Nobody except kids will get it or really want to play it.
The last 3 expansions have really been decending order levels of doggy poo. GC has really run this game into the ground.
I wasnt even going to comment on this article as it was just too overly positive. I can respect the authors view just fine, but Im getting a little tired of mmorpg.com just gushing over the MoP expansion.
The author hated the Goblin starting area. Okay. And he loathes even looking at the Draeni. Thats a little extreme, but okay I can dig that. But kung fu pandas are awesome sauce. What? How does that even......what?
Its Pandas ... Freaking Pandas.
First we had Illidan - we all giggled in anticipation.
Arthas ? Forget bout it.
Deathwing, not as exposed foe as those before him, but good theme for an expansion as any I guess.
Then we get new allias instead of foes as expansion team. Fearsom - PANDAS ! April fools joke actually became a full expansion.
Done get me wrong, I like new stuff, pokemone pets for one, new talents and all other stuff. Not to mention 4.3 that MoP will lean on ( Transmorf ). But Pandas I just cant chew...
Sorry Blizz, you just wont get me to buy another expansion and resub.
If this seems awesome to you, have fun with the expansion. My dollars will be spent elsewhere.
I wonder how many people have read more than the words, "Panda" and "Pokemon".
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
If you compared that to the percentage of actual progressing raiding guilds within the WoW population you would have more of a point. FYI: The entire WoW Pop doesn't raid.
Yes!
The wannabe adults need to pack up and go!
Make room for the true adults who just want to be a panda bear!
Is he reaching for popcorn?
and they don't because they can't. not because they don't want to. raiding is a ridiculous element to any game. any element which locks out the majority of your players is ridiculous. it's like having paytv and being told you can only watch one of the 50 odd channels, but that if you watch 10 hours a day and can recite the upcoming guide to what's on for the next year at any given time, then you can unlock another few channels.
i don't think it's making anything easy by letting everyone have a chance to play the game they're paying for. there's nothing challenging about a boss with double lifepoints who never does anything outside of a set series of moves you can easily discover on youtube anyway. the only real challenge with raiding is getting the group together out of the few other guys you know who have egos the size of a small planetoid.
I typed your name into google images to find your maturity level. Ouch. :P
Sarcasm is not a crime!
i think the reaction to the latest dumbing down and cute-ing up of wow is similar to everyone's reactions to george lucas.
the reasonb eing, you have a great product with minimal nods at humour and cute. then you get an idea about merchandising and marketing your product and you figure you could make more money if only you just squeezed a few more notches up on the humour and the cute. so, you decide 'return of the jedi' isn't a bad idea.
unfortunately, no one really likes that, so you sit back down and scratch your head. you'd like to make a good product again, but you can't, because now you've got a taste of what it would be like to buy your own island.
so you ramp the humour and the cute up so far you've hit ludicrous speed. and everyone says it's rubbish, and you know it's rubbish, but it sells. it sells because everyone is still desperately clinging to the original idea. which was brilliant.
the real nail in the coffin is when you decide you can go back to your original idea and just kind of wash over it with a lot of cgi.
make it easier to look at.
and hopefully, given time, everyone will forget what the original idea was if they can't ever see it again and one day people won't really know the difference and will think that the original idea was all humour and cute and no game.