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Which MMO developer should be ban from making future MMO titles?

MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
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In your opinion, which MMO developer of any kind, should never be allowed to make future MMO titles, and why?

For me, it would have to be Darkfall's developers AV, Allod and ROM's developers as well.

 

Darkfall was a dull attempt to make a Sandbox fantasy MMO. it had soo much hype. it reminded me of the hype levels that Warhammer had. yet failed to deliver.

 

Allod was too hammered down by the Itemshop focus. same for RoM. pretty great games actually, but the Itemshop and greed was a killer.

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  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092

    Cryptic for sure!

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    My answer will not be popular, but the reasoning behind it is that they inspired many years of railed clones, over instances, etc...

    Blizzard

     

    It's been like the mmo dark ages for real depth, just starting to see the light again.

     

    No, I am not saying WoW sucks, wish it well, people can play it forever for all I care, just not my thing...

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    This is too easy, " Funcom "

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  • pvpirlpvpirl Member UncommonPosts: 178

    McQuaid & Garriot. Until them come to their senses.

    Which will be never.

    I'll be DAMNED if I must share teh interwebs with UltimaVille or EverFarm.

  • koira1koira1 Member UncommonPosts: 264

    id go with Starvault, their shady stuff should pretty much speak for itself..

  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    Originally posted by Reizla

    Cryptic for sure!

    I'd definitely go with Cryptic.  It is funny, used to think they did a great job with CoH way back in the day... then the shuffle... the CO and STO.

    I'd go beyond them not making another MMO - I'd take Neverwinter away from them - and ban them from making any games.

    Not to leave them without jobs, I'd put them to work building highways in Arizona during the Summers and Alaska during the Winters...

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    In my opinion, noone should be banned. For all I care, they can all present their games and let people decide if their creation is worth playing. Just because a developer or company has constant misses, doesn't mean that it won't have an eventual hit. We're denying ourselves the possibility by "banning" those who have failed in their past efforts.

  • Athena_StarfireAthena_Starfire Member UncommonPosts: 213


    Which MMO developer should be ban from making future MMO

    Cryptic..without a doubt..

  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    In my opinion, noone should be banned. For all I care, they can all present their games and let people decide if their creation is worth playing. Just because a developer or company has constant misses, doesn't mean that it won't have an eventual hit. We're denying ourselves the possibility by "banning" those who have failed in their past efforts.

    Okay...how about banning Cryptic from developing for any established IPs?

    It's one thing to wait to see if they can do something... it's another to watch them crap all over IPs folks like.

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    Originally posted by VirusDancer

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    In my opinion, noone should be banned. For all I care, they can all present their games and let people decide if their creation is worth playing. Just because a developer or company has constant misses, doesn't mean that it won't have an eventual hit. We're denying ourselves the possibility by "banning" those who have failed in their past efforts.

    Okay...how about banning Cryptic from developing for any established IPs?

    It's one thing to wait to see if they can do something... it's another to watch them crap all over IPs folks like.

    Too true. image

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  • FozzikFozzik Member UncommonPosts: 539

    SOE should not be allowed to design or buy any more MMORPGs.


    Any company that believes that it can distill a formula for mass-market success by looking at WoW should be banned.

  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767
    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

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  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    After GW, anet.

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  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

    I still don't get the hate over the Gamebryo engine.  There have been some nifty games made with that engine.

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088

    Originally posted by Reizla

    Cryptic for sure!

    This!

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  • PlasmicredxPlasmicredx Member Posts: 629

    Originally posted by VirusDancer

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

    I still don't get the hate over the Gamebryo engine.  There have been some nifty games made with that engine.

    Most people blamed the engine until they saw other people use the engine properly.

  • RedcorRedcor Member Posts: 426

    I would have said Funcom but they have made a ton of improvements since thier bad launch and I have a soft spot for Conan lore. SO SOE FOR SURE. greedy muthers that care nothing for their consumers.

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  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767

    Originally posted by mrw0lf

    After GW, anet.

    nice nerdbait "waits"

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  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767

    Originally posted by Plasmicredx

    Originally posted by VirusDancer

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

    I still don't get the hate over the Gamebryo engine.  There have been some nifty games made with that engine.

    Most people blamed the engine until they saw other people use the engine properly.

    the engine might be good for some stuff, but its completely ubfit for an mmo specialy an RvR type of gameplay, just couldnt handle what the game was supposed to be, doesnt matter how good of an implementation of i, hence a terrible choice

    "I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."

  • JimmacJimmac Member UncommonPosts: 1,660

    None. I am not negatively affected if a company makes a game.

  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235

    Originally posted by Redcor

    I would have said Funcom but they have made a ton of improvements since thier bad launch and I have a soft spot for Conan lore. SO SOE FOR SURE. greedy muthers that care nothing for their consumers.

    and lets not forget AO that despite the launch issues was a helluva agame for the age. I'm inclined to agree with whoever said Garriot and McGrind maybe adding Roper thoughh at least he messed up on modest budgets unlike the other two who seem to take pride in how much money they can blow.

  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    See, I would have liked Garriott to have gotten together with Chuckles and talk to SJ about doing Autoduel Online through the Portalarium.

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • PlasmicredxPlasmicredx Member Posts: 629
    Originally posted by Fir3line


    Originally posted by Plasmicredx


    Originally posted by VirusDancer



    Originally posted by Fir3line

    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

    I still don't get the hate over the Gamebryo engine.  There have been some nifty games made with that engine.

    Most people blamed the engine until they saw other people use the engine properly.

    the engine might be good for some stuff, but its completely ubfit for an mmo specialy an RvR type of gameplay, just couldnt handle what the game was supposed to be, doesnt matter how good of an implementation of i, hence a terrible choice

    I'm surprised someone hasn't replied to you yet.

    You must have not played rift yet or you just didn't like rift and are refusing to acknowledge its existence as a worthy example.

  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    Originally posted by Plasmicredx

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    Originally posted by Plasmicredx

    Originally posted by VirusDancer

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    With the crap all over IP in mind. Mythic, or the sleazy designers that they had, and the shithead that thought of the idea to use gamebryos engine

    I still don't get the hate over the Gamebryo engine.  There have been some nifty games made with that engine.

    Most people blamed the engine until they saw other people use the engine properly.

    the engine might be good for some stuff, but its completely ubfit for an mmo specialy an RvR type of gameplay, just couldnt handle what the game was supposed to be, doesnt matter how good of an implementation of i, hence a terrible choice

    I'm surprised someone hasn't replied to you yet.

    You must have not played rift yet or you just didn't like rift and are refusing to acknowledge its existence as a worthy example.

    RIFT... DAoC even, with an older version.

    The list of titles and clients for Gamebryo is pretty...nifty.

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

    Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%

  • TorgrimTorgrim Member CommonPosts: 2,088

    Cryptic for the simple reason they rape beloved IPs just to get money.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

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