A poll was done on this forum some time ago (was unable to locate it) that asked people what class they would level up first.
Two of the three top choices we Trooper and Bounty Hunter when I saw it.
I don't think everyone will be a jedi.
PS Even if everyone made a jedi, no big deal. Its a GAME, its not real. The main goal of any entertainment venture is to produce something that people will enjoy enough to pay money for, be it NASCAR, NFL Football or a video game.
I don't understand your argument, the fact that it is not real is in no way a guarantee that an overabundance of a specific class will not diminsh the enjoyment of those playing other classes or even for those playing that class.
Originally posted by Gothbag Greetings Am I the only one who fears there will be an insane amount of Jedi/Sith populating all servers? I will be playing a bounty hunter or some other non-Jedi class because it seems to me almost everybody will roll a Jedi. So far, on all "reviews" I've read people talked about their lightsaber and stuff, and we cannot forget that this game is a successor to KNIGHTS of the Old Republic, so most followers of the franchise will be desiring to play a Jedi. The thing is that Jedi/Sith are supposed to be a strict minority, armies of Jedi won't make for a very immersive gameplay experience.
There will be a lot of Jedi. There will be a lot of Sith. Kind of makes sense, since the main characters in the movies were the Jedi and the Sith. I think in the second three movies (bleh) all the main characters were Jedi or Sith except for Amadala.
The only thing that would ruin the game play is if the Jedi or Sith are way over powered relative to the other classes, making them pointless.
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for some reason i think it will be very equal, im sure we will see a lot of bounty's and troopers around too, but its very improbable that we are getting flooded by jedy's, just my oppinion
I have to laugh everytime I hear that "Well it's that timeframe" excuse. Sure, the Jedi might have numered thousands, maybe even millions but guess what, the rest of the galaxy numbered trillions. I'm also pretty sure they weren't bunched up in the same place either.
With the time frame not to mention it being after the sith empire coming back, it would be more weird to see smaller groups of jedi or sith in places then to see huge amounts of them. Even in the cgs you see large groups of jed and sith in temples or planets. Also there was a long period of peace before the sith came back so the jedi had ample time to teach and mold more jedi who were force sensitive to not fall to the dark side possibly creating more dark jedis that might fracture the order once more. Also i am guessing you do not read the pre movie or post movie books about the sw universe or even a wiki of it. If you dd you would know that jedi as well as sith were quite wide spread, and compared to being nearlly wiped out during the years of darth vader's crusade as well as the jedi purge that happened made up a large portion of the population of the universe (well force sensitives did. not a number to say what portion of the pop was jedi r sith force users either direction.).
I have to laugh everytime I hear that "Well it's that timeframe" excuse. Sure, the Jedi might have numered thousands, maybe even millions but guess what, the rest of the galaxy numbered trillions. I'm also pretty sure they weren't bunched up in the same place either.
LOL you mean bunched up at Tython or Korriban? Thats where they train. or maby bunched up here?
I mean its only a galaxy, not like there is enuff room or anything.
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A poll was done on this forum some time ago (was unable to locate it) that asked people what class they would level up first.
Two of the three top choices we Trooper and Bounty Hunter when I saw it.
I don't think everyone will be a jedi.
PS Even if everyone made a jedi, no big deal. Its a GAME, its not real. The main goal of any entertainment venture is to produce something that people will enjoy enough to pay money for, be it NASCAR, NFL Football or a video game.
I don't understand your argument, the fact that it is not real is in no way a guarantee that an overabundance of a specific class will not diminsh the enjoyment of those playing other classes or even for those playing that class.
HAH....I dont even have the words to express the utter BS this post represents.
Someone elses choice of character class is going to affect your fun? Your post reminds me of the days of seeing comments like "I earned my Jedi, so I deserve an alpha class". Totally out of touch with what the average themepark fan is looking at in their gaming.
Fun trumps canon in a game, but when the fun goes as far as to match up to the canon, do you really have a leg to stand on? I say ya dont.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Am I the only one who fears there will be an insane amount of Jedi/Sith populating all servers? I will be playing a bounty hunter or some other non-Jedi class because it seems to me almost everybody will roll a Jedi. So far, on all "reviews" I've read people talked about their lightsaber and stuff, and we cannot forget that this game is a successor to KNIGHTS of the Old Republic, so most followers of the franchise will be desiring to play a Jedi. The thing is that Jedi/Sith are supposed to be a strict minority, armies of Jedi won't make for a very immersive gameplay experience.
There will be a lot of Jedi. But Republic trooper is where my heart called especially when i found out about the weaponry. I think people are going to fall in love with the trooper and the smuggler from several standpoints because they call out to several different types of players. The Jedi dont have much in stealth: Smugglers are the stealth fiends same as their Sith Counterparts. The Jedi have one major ranged. (sith have one major ranged) the Republic trooper is a RANGED TANK! Since when have we had one of THOSE in an MMO in recent memory?
This particular era of SW there are hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of jedi at this point and no small amount of sith either. So large amounts arent gonna bother me. The fact that troopers get access to the ONE weapon a force user isnt looking to face against suggests to me that there will be a nice balance.
The one thing a force user has a problem dealing with is a high firing rate well them and explosives. Slightly easier with a double bladed lightsaber but not much. I think the trooper is gonna be a fun counter to force classes and it wont be the only one.
I'm insterested in three different classes so far and none of them is jedi.
The reason I didn't like KOTOR that much is you could not choose to not join the jedi order. I can't wait to play in a star wars world where everybody are NOT jedis.
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BAsically thats it.... we all want to be a Jedi in some way, because Jedi's and Sith are what this world and conflict are about...
If i would have created the game, i would have given even the non Force users some force powers. like latent naturall born force users... BEcause the gameworld is all about the force.
You just tapped into one of my real nit-picks on this game...
Had I my preference, I'd be building a Corran Horn/Keiran Halcyon style character:
He's force sensitive and does have a lightsaber. He also carries a blaster and has no qualms about using it liberally.
The force and his connection with it would not define his existence, but would be an active part of it.
BAsically thats it.... we all want to be a Jedi in some way, because Jedi's and Sith are what this world and conflict are about...
If i would have created the game, i would have given even the non Force users some force powers. like latent naturall born force users... BEcause the gameworld is all about the force.
You just tapped into one of my real nit-picks on this game...
Had I my preference, I'd be building a Corran Horn/Keiran Halcyon style character:
He's force sensitive and does have a lightsaber. He also carries a blaster and has no qualms about using it liberally.
The force and his connection with it would not define his existence, but would be an active part of it.
That sounds cool, but don't you think that char sounds a bit alpha? I mean everyone would pick a class that can do it all, seems kinda pointless.
Lol what is better is it s merely a convo about what people know about the universe at this time, and then letting them know differently. WHat the op started with is pretty flushed down the toilet and gone now with it being more we could care less about what he interent and more with talking about what has come up.I wanted to be a gray or fel jedi myself over what we have. Also i think the jedi concelur shadow side has a stealth part to it.
I suspect there will be a huge amount of force using characters at lauch cos everyone wants to be luke skywalker / darth maul right?? I however am more interested in the BH and Trooper classes and I think there will be enough people thinking the same way to make it balanced enough. Yes, there will be more Jedis and Sith than the other classes but I dont think it will be rediculous
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BAsically thats it.... we all want to be a Jedi in some way, because Jedi's and Sith are what this world and conflict are about...
If i would have created the game, i would have given even the non Force users some force powers. like latent naturall born force users... BEcause the gameworld is all about the force.
You just tapped into one of my real nit-picks on this game...
Had I my preference, I'd be building a Corran Horn/Keiran Halcyon style character:
He's force sensitive and does have a lightsaber. He also carries a blaster and has no qualms about using it liberally.
The force and his connection with it would not define his existence, but would be an active part of it.
That sounds cool, but don't you think that char sounds a bit alpha? I mean everyone would pick a class that can do it all, seems kinda pointless.
Actually, no...
But to qualify that you'd have to be familiar with the Corran Horn character, I guess.
Horn was force sensitive, qualified as a jedi but wasn't "strong " in the force. No moving objects, etc. He could do illusions, absorb energy, heal, hyper awareness, but no real TK and he wore out quick.
Against other opponents, he'd either have outsmarted them or outworked them to win. Overpowering wasn't an option.
Long story short, the character concept wouldn't be alpha or OP but more like a" jack of all trades, master of none" type class.
So troopers, pilots, engineers, tehnicians, police/security, workers and others were actually the minority, go figure. Yes I am aware that LoLJedi were more numerous back then but not to such an extent that they were the majority which those who commented on my post seem to imply.
Alot of the people I'll be playing with arent using force wielding classes. Out of the 20 ppl that will be in my guild only 4 are playing force wielders.
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If every other mmo is to go by, classes just magically balance out pretty much by themselves. And I'm going to be a jedi in the beta, simply because at launch I'll be a bounty hunter, so i wanna get my lightsaber fix now
There have been several polls in the beta forums about which class people will be playing at launch, and there was a good mix of force and non-force. Granted, I think that when the game goes live and the masses pour in, many will start force classes, but many likely change over time to other classes, when they realize that they are just as good and just as fun to play.
Keep in mind that the PC's are suppose to be special characters in the universe. They aren't, as someone pointed out, the rank and file. It makes sense that many of the "special" people would be able to use the force.
first off who cares if everyone wants to be a jedi / sith thats pretty cool to have huge jedi wars..
secondly atm ranged classes such as bounty hunter, trooper etc are quite powerful, range always tend to be quite powerful in early stages of RPG's before melee get gear. I dont think the class mix will be that bad but we will have to see.
Originally posted by Gothbag Greetings Am I the only one who fears there will be an insane amount of Jedi/Sith populating all servers? I will be playing a bounty hunter or some other non-Jedi class because it seems to me almost everybody will roll a Jedi. So far, on all "reviews" I've read people talked about their lightsaber and stuff, and we cannot forget that this game is a successor to KNIGHTS of the Old Republic, so most followers of the franchise will be desiring to play a Jedi. The thing is that Jedi/Sith are supposed to be a strict minority, armies of Jedi won't make for a very immersive gameplay experience.
The time period is one chock full of Jedis and Sith. Half of the things you will be doing are taking place in Sith and Jedi academies. Fits quite in with that. It's like saying it feels weird to play a military strategy game and fear everyone will be soldiers instead of tank crews in a game taking place around West Point and PLA National Defense University (China's "West Point")
When you roll your Bounty Hunter or some other non-Jedi class, don't be surprised when you run into tons of them also. You underestimate the power of Boba Fett appeal. :P Also, if you aren't impressed with the Trooper's gun, don't worry. There will be plenty of people rolling that class. Who doesn't want to be a ranged tank?
The key isn't what class you roll, but what spec you roll. If you pick the DPS specs be prepared for plenty of company. As usual like in any other mmo, the classes/specs to play are going to be tank and healer because everyone else wants to pwn face.
I will roll a badass Darth Maul like Sith Assasin because that is what this game is for. No need to be "original" and deny yourself the fun of slashing away with force-lightning and ligfhsabres just to be special. No one fucking cares!
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I don't understand your argument, the fact that it is not real is in no way a guarantee that an overabundance of a specific class will not diminsh the enjoyment of those playing other classes or even for those playing that class.
There will be a lot of Jedi. There will be a lot of Sith. Kind of makes sense, since the main characters in the movies were the Jedi and the Sith. I think in the second three movies (bleh) all the main characters were Jedi or Sith except for Amadala.
The only thing that would ruin the game play is if the Jedi or Sith are way over powered relative to the other classes, making them pointless.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
for some reason i think it will be very equal, im sure we will see a lot of bounty's and troopers around too, but its very improbable that we are getting flooded by jedy's, just my oppinion
I don't think so. There are all kinds of polls on what classes people are going to play, and it seems fairly balanced.
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With the time frame not to mention it being after the sith empire coming back, it would be more weird to see smaller groups of jedi or sith in places then to see huge amounts of them. Even in the cgs you see large groups of jed and sith in temples or planets. Also there was a long period of peace before the sith came back so the jedi had ample time to teach and mold more jedi who were force sensitive to not fall to the dark side possibly creating more dark jedis that might fracture the order once more. Also i am guessing you do not read the pre movie or post movie books about the sw universe or even a wiki of it. If you dd you would know that jedi as well as sith were quite wide spread, and compared to being nearlly wiped out during the years of darth vader's crusade as well as the jedi purge that happened made up a large portion of the population of the universe (well force sensitives did. not a number to say what portion of the pop was jedi r sith force users either direction.).
LOL you mean bunched up at Tython or Korriban? Thats where they train. or maby bunched up here?
I mean its only a galaxy, not like there is enuff room or anything.
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HAH....I dont even have the words to express the utter BS this post represents.
Someone elses choice of character class is going to affect your fun? Your post reminds me of the days of seeing comments like "I earned my Jedi, so I deserve an alpha class". Totally out of touch with what the average themepark fan is looking at in their gaming.
Fun trumps canon in a game, but when the fun goes as far as to match up to the canon, do you really have a leg to stand on? I say ya dont.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
There will be a lot of Jedi. But Republic trooper is where my heart called especially when i found out about the weaponry. I think people are going to fall in love with the trooper and the smuggler from several standpoints because they call out to several different types of players. The Jedi dont have much in stealth: Smugglers are the stealth fiends same as their Sith Counterparts. The Jedi have one major ranged. (sith have one major ranged) the Republic trooper is a RANGED TANK! Since when have we had one of THOSE in an MMO in recent memory?
This particular era of SW there are hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of jedi at this point and no small amount of sith either. So large amounts arent gonna bother me. The fact that troopers get access to the ONE weapon a force user isnt looking to face against suggests to me that there will be a nice balance.
The one thing a force user has a problem dealing with is a high firing rate well them and explosives. Slightly easier with a double bladed lightsaber but not much. I think the trooper is gonna be a fun counter to force classes and it wont be the only one.
I'm insterested in three different classes so far and none of them is jedi.
The reason I didn't like KOTOR that much is you could not choose to not join the jedi order. I can't wait to play in a star wars world where everybody are NOT jedis.
"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
Hans Margolius
I will try all 8 classes.
How is the game being filled with light sabers any different than a game being filled with swords, or guns, or magic users, etc.?
You just tapped into one of my real nit-picks on this game...
Had I my preference, I'd be building a Corran Horn/Keiran Halcyon style character:
He's force sensitive and does have a lightsaber. He also carries a blaster and has no qualms about using it liberally.
The force and his connection with it would not define his existence, but would be an active part of it.
That sounds cool, but don't you think that char sounds a bit alpha? I mean everyone would pick a class that can do it all, seems kinda pointless.
OP is reading this thread and laughing, saying "gotcha!"
If this isn't a troll post, then OP's parents should keep them away from computers and web forums till they are at least 18.
Logic has spoken.
Lol what is better is it s merely a convo about what people know about the universe at this time, and then letting them know differently. WHat the op started with is pretty flushed down the toilet and gone now with it being more we could care less about what he interent and more with talking about what has come up.I wanted to be a gray or fel jedi myself over what we have. Also i think the jedi concelur shadow side has a stealth part to it.
I suspect there will be a huge amount of force using characters at lauch cos everyone wants to be luke skywalker / darth maul right?? I however am more interested in the BH and Trooper classes and I think there will be enough people thinking the same way to make it balanced enough. Yes, there will be more Jedis and Sith than the other classes but I dont think it will be rediculous
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Actually, no...
But to qualify that you'd have to be familiar with the Corran Horn character, I guess.
Horn was force sensitive, qualified as a jedi but wasn't "strong " in the force. No moving objects, etc. He could do illusions, absorb energy, heal, hyper awareness, but no real TK and he wore out quick.
Against other opponents, he'd either have outsmarted them or outworked them to win. Overpowering wasn't an option.
Long story short, the character concept wouldn't be alpha or OP but more like a" jack of all trades, master of none" type class.
So troopers, pilots, engineers, tehnicians, police/security, workers and others were actually the minority, go figure. Yes I am aware that LoLJedi were more numerous back then but not to such an extent that they were the majority which those who commented on my post seem to imply.
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Alot of the people I'll be playing with arent using force wielding classes. Out of the 20 ppl that will be in my guild only 4 are playing force wielders.
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If every other mmo is to go by, classes just magically balance out pretty much by themselves. And I'm going to be a jedi in the beta, simply because at launch I'll be a bounty hunter, so i wanna get my lightsaber fix now
There have been several polls in the beta forums about which class people will be playing at launch, and there was a good mix of force and non-force. Granted, I think that when the game goes live and the masses pour in, many will start force classes, but many likely change over time to other classes, when they realize that they are just as good and just as fun to play.
Keep in mind that the PC's are suppose to be special characters in the universe. They aren't, as someone pointed out, the rank and file. It makes sense that many of the "special" people would be able to use the force.
first off who cares if everyone wants to be a jedi / sith thats pretty cool to have huge jedi wars..
secondly atm ranged classes such as bounty hunter, trooper etc are quite powerful, range always tend to be quite powerful in early stages of RPG's before melee get gear. I dont think the class mix will be that bad but we will have to see.
Because immersion is touted as this games strength, if it's not good then meh because the rest does not seem better or worse than any other mmorpg.
When you roll your Bounty Hunter or some other non-Jedi class, don't be surprised when you run into tons of them also. You underestimate the power of Boba Fett appeal. :P Also, if you aren't impressed with the Trooper's gun, don't worry. There will be plenty of people rolling that class. Who doesn't want to be a ranged tank?
The key isn't what class you roll, but what spec you roll. If you pick the DPS specs be prepared for plenty of company. As usual like in any other mmo, the classes/specs to play are going to be tank and healer because everyone else wants to pwn face.
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I will roll a badass Darth Maul like Sith Assasin because that is what this game is for. No need to be "original" and deny yourself the fun of slashing away with force-lightning and ligfhsabres just to be special. No one fucking cares!