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F2P should be forbidden
Mightyking
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Reading this article: http://www.gamesbrief.com/2011/11/bigpoint-sells-2000-spaceship-drones-for-1000-euros-each-in-just-four-days/ about Bigpoint selling virtual goods for 1,000 euros a piece. They sold 2,000 of them in 4 days!
Companies like this are the new dope dealers. I wonder how many of the people spending the 1k on a few bytes did so with a big smile on their face.
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How does this affect you? We all know there are way more than 2k stupid people in the world, so don't be bothered by these.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Online games for the rich or the plain stupid. I don't care how much I like playing a game, I could never justify spending that much on an online virtual item. I couldnt justify spending more than a few quid let alone £1000.
Unfortunately no matter how bad a game is if you allow people to buy their success you will always have a good revenue source, because complete power over another person no matter how much the cost is a game feature to a lot of the escapists on the internet.
Prohibition is not an answer to addiction. It lies with the person. Not everyone is an addictive personality, so should the rest be punished for the ones who are?
Pretty crazy stuff. I can understand someone spending a few bucks here and there in an item shop, but 1000 Euros? O_O damn !. But didn't a guy pay like US$200,000 for a space station in Entropia Universe?. Crazy world we live in lol !
Should be obvious to see how it affects ALL of us?The rich can support this time of game design and it is actually easier on the develoepr,less players to worry about,less servers and same profits.This has created the MANY Cash shop games to pop up and even the giant SOE is going full tilt cash shop.Other devs will follow.
This is in essence using the same analogy like having dope dealers in your back yard,surely you can see how that affects you.
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@OP;
Good sir, I agree with you completely. ''FREE'' to play my a$$.
There's certainly a morale aspect to this.
The service provided for the 1,000 euros is in no way near worth 1,000, or 2 million for that matter. The cost to implement this in their games was probably close to a day's work for a 3D artist to design the look of that drone (is it a spaceship?). When you're playing these F2P games, you either pay up to compete with the competition, or play for free. When a company adds an item like this the player either needs to give up their competition, and thus (partially) the investment they made in their game or pay this ridiculous prize.
I really wonder if something can be done about the morales of such a company. This isn't smart business, this is doing business without morale, plain and simple.
Some people only live for there games, if u got no irl friends or wife/girlfriend well what do u spend ur money on? yeah games:P
Wow that must have been some spaceship. Does it come with a virtual lover too ? My husband is getting old still a thousand is a tad much.
Of course it is worth 1,000 to the 2k people that purchased it. If it wasn't "worth" it they wouldn't have. This is how a market economy works, it is worth what people are willing to pay.
F2P games are repulsive.
I don't think so. I don't think people are paying that money just to have that item, most want to keep up with the competition.
It kinda bothers me, guys buying that stuff might be driving cars or something...
Tricking stupid people out of their money are forbidden in some cases but most are legal. Sweden which I live in used to have laws against extreme over charging but that was a long time ago.
Maybe there should be some kind of law on how much you actually could charge people for a virtual item but I really can't work up the energy to bother myself. The people who buy this stuff would waste their money on some other crap otherwise.
Some people just have more money than sense, but usually not for long.
No, Pay2win games are repulsive.
Not all F2P games are this bad, not by a longshot. Besides, P2P games with RMTs are repulsive as well.
*Sigh*, I must be getting old, I missed when I just bought a box and payed 10 or 15 bucks a moth and that was it to get access to the entire game. Now they push mounts and crap as well.
Or, you know, folks could actually take some responsibility and not actually buy the f*cking stuff. And I'm sorry if any dope dealer tried that bull crap he/she it would be the poorest dope dealer in town. Unlike Item malls, contraband has an established market price. If it's too high, punters go elsewhere. Just like some of the folks whining about how expensive F2P is. Grow a spine and stop being such a drone.
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So? If they have the money, why should you even care? What business is it of yours? People spend $30,000 on a Rolex watch or a Gucci handbag - should we ban that?
Anyway, what has this got to do with F2P in general? I was expecting a thread saying F2P was a bad thing, yet you QQ about virtual goods instead. Get a life.
Who cares if people spending money in free two play games i don't and if im constantly losing becouse of people spending so much i quit or dont play such games where real money is involved.
Power to those who offer games for free and achieve that players spent so much real money in there game lol.
I have the feeling all who are agains this and come to forums making topics about it can't spent so much ingame as others can and losing are so jealous that they cry on forums about it and try to stop this hehe
Get over it play games where people dont buy with real money or start solo games problem solved.
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Now a days when you enter a mmo for first time you already have mount uber gear and alot of fluff before you even have start playing lol.
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No, it shouldn't. Welcome to free market capitalism. A fool and his money are soon parted. I do not need, nor do I want governments to regulate business to protect people from their own stupidity. On the other hand, if it's just a matter of someone with the money to burn, let them burn it on whatever they like. It's theirs to do with as they please...
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A free game is stupid and a pay monthly subscription game is good, yeah i can see the logic in that thinking. /sigh
why do you care what people buy in a game? unless you're an over competitive jerk and can't stand someone getting something you can't..seriously mmo players are so immature sometimes.
Wow, this thread is full of words of wisdom. So far, I've seen F2P devs compared to drug dealers and people who spend their money stupidly compared to bad drivers.
Grow up people. Some people will do stupid things like spend large amounts of money on virtual goods. It does not affect you. Will other devs see this and try the same thing? Yup. And that won't affect you either. Even if in your very favorite game, the devs sold some uber weapon for 5K$ and someone bought it, it still wouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game.
Someone once said "A fool and his money are soon parted". That fool, nor his money, will affect you.
As for the item not being worth 2K or whatever. To me and you it isn't. But economics say that if someone buys it, it's worth it, even if only to that person. Sell some stuff sometime, you'll see what I mean. I'm sure just about everyone here has bid on something on Ebay and seen free-market economics in action. This is only different in that the item is virtual.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Well...
I assume this is some of the 1% people, the Occupy Wall Street movement was refering to.
If things do not change, beter get ready to see this kind of thing more and more often.
Global population hit 7 billion this year, more than half the world lives in Poverty, with a rising World hunger issue and here we have an example of extravagant and quite useless spending.
Way to go world!
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It's a person's right to use $10k bills for toilet paper or rollups, should they so choose. This world is FULL of things that are stupidly overpriced, yet still sell because they manage to target someone with cash and a desire to own something unique. Psychology has been the backbone of advertising and sales tactics since the beginning of civilization. So why shouldn't this extend to virtual items (complete with a ToS that dictates that they don't actually own what they buy) as well?
And really, the prez of Bigpoint said as much some time ago - that he believes in-game power should be for sale. Anyone still playing the game has no right to complain.
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