Originally posted by lizardbones ** edit^2 ** It did not occur to me until just now, but you might be able to take 'Heavy' armor and make it 'Light' armor for your class that can only wear light armor. It would still look like Heavy armor though.
Nope doesn't work that way.
Somebody who doesn't wear heavy armor is going to complain that being able to wear Heavy Armor and Light Armor, while also being able to mod the armor gives classes with heavy armor more options and that it will be unfair.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Like I said before you guys just arent seeing where they got the inspiration for some of the gear
Yeah except that Star Wars had silly looking outfits since... Forever. Dont hate on SW if Gaga likes to mimic Coruscant fashion Or Emperors personal guard lol, I dont think Gaga was even born when the red Death Star guard was shown in original films, but yeah, it's still cool to hate, bring it on!
Like I said before you guys just arent seeing where they got the inspiration for some of the gear
Yeah except that Star Wars had silly looking outfits since... Forever. Dont hate on SW if Gaga likes to mimic Coruscant fashion Or Emperors personal guard lol, I dont think Gaga was even born when the red Death Star guard was shown in original films, but yeah, it's still cool to hate, bring it on!
Dude not hating making light of a stupid arguement. Man people for this game and against it are so freakin defensive. Not evrything that is said is an attack on your daughters virginity people
You people gripe about everything. The above is Naga Saddow and Darth Bane BTW.
Olololol I thought it was Lady Gaga olololol.
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(insert random gear) attach crafted cloak & hood then add mods = profit!
I don't understand, can you explain please?
As I mentioned most gear has mod slots on it. The gear itself has no stats, the level and stats on gear is determined by the mods you put on it. So put 3 level 50 purple mods on a lightsaber you got at level 10 and you get a level 50 purple lightsaber that looks like the level 10 one.
Honestly adding a apperance slot would have been much easier to implement but doing mods makes a much more flexible system so I htink it's a great add on.
The system wasn't done over the beta weekend but I read somewher they added over a 1000 new pieces of gear most with mod slots in Monday's build.
wrong, armor and damage on weapons depend from item, not from mods, mods at stats, you can have 150 armor robe with 0 stats and 3 mods slots, same for 100 dps saber with no stats and 3 mods slots, but that lvl 50 with purple mods it still be 100 dps saber and 150 armor robe
That was the way it worked until very recently. In fact Bioware only had the new system partially implemented for last beta weekend which is why the vast majority of gear didn't have Mod slots on it.
The new system puts all the gears stats on mods and makes the gear itself just a apperance shell. You can put the exact same mods on a piece of heavy armor you go at level 10 as you can one you got at level 50 and you will end up with the same quality and level armor if you put the same mods on both.
I like the new system as it seems a lot more interesting than just slapping a apperance slot into the game and calling it good which I'm sure would have been much simplier to implement. Putting all the stats on mods gives Bioware a lot of flexibility in the future to add new mods without having to worry about rebalancing all the gear they created up to that point.
As for the OP point. As long as I can wear whatever gear I want I really don't care if there is over the top stuff in game. Some people will wear it and some won't. Me I tend to go with simplier looks in MMO's where I can choose. The nice thing is that Bioware is letting us choose at launch.
All the gear has base stats, yea you can manipulate them by adding mods but at the end of the day its still a gear based game and saying the endgame pvp or raid gear isnt any different than the regular ingame gear is just a lie.
I dunno, when watching Star Wars movies, most people wore .....clothes?
Sure, there were some armor sets for Troopers or Mercs, but most of the other characters including even some of the main ones wore fairly simple outfits with a few accessories.
I would rather hope SWTOR's end game clothing sets follow a more realistic look and feel and not get too far out there like fantasy MMO's tend to do.
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Dude not hating making light of a stupid arguement. Man people for this game and against it are so freakin defensive. Not evrything that is said is an attack on your daughters virginity people
Dude, I'll go pull the flag to the pole now, it's a historic day for the site.
Dude not hating making light of a stupid arguement. Man people for this game and against it are so freakin defensive. Not evrything that is said is an attack on your daughters virginity people
Dude, I'll go pull the flag to the pole now, it's a historic day for the site.
I honestly dont know what were talking about anymore
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about their take on "moddable" gear (not REALLY moddable). Appearance tabs are always better because:
1) You have more gear to acquire = always fun to research and farm things
2) you have more gera to mix and match
3) getting upgrades or sidegrades always feels good and gives the effect of progression be it vanity or power gear.
I like the moddable idea better because then I actually have to do some work to fix my outfit properly for me. Though, I recall Daniel Erikson saying not so long ago that there is not appearance tab in the game currently but they are trying to fix one for the launch or soon after, I'd rather take just the mod-version but as long as I can have a say on my looks I'll gladly accept the tab too.
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about their take on "moddable" gear (not REALLY moddable). Appearance tabs are always better because:
1) You have more gear to acquire = always fun to research and farm things
2) you have more gera to mix and match
3) getting upgrades or sidegrades always feels good and gives the effect of progression be it vanity or power gear.
I like the moddable idea better because then I actually have to do some work to fix my outfit properly for me. Though, I recall Daniel Erikson saying not so long ago that there is not appearance tab in the game currently but they are trying to fix one for the launch or soon after, I'd rather take just the mod-version but as long as I can have a say on my looks I'll gladly accept the tab too.
I'm pretty sure that comment was before they decided to put 100% of the stats on mods. Mods use to only have some of the gears stats on them not all of them. There really isn't a point to having a apperance tab anymore since you can mod any gear you want (within your class restrictions) and wear it at any level. Mods determine the gears level and stats, the gear itself is just a apperance shell.
I think it's a interesting system and has the huge upside of significantly reducing the number of things Bioware needs to look at when making changes or adding new stats. A few 100 mods are a lot easier to keep blanaced than a few 1000 pieces of gear. An apperance tab would have been the easier solution for sure but I think putting all the stats on mods makes a much more sustainable long term system.
I'm pretty sure that comment was before they decided to put 100% of the stats on mods. Mods use to only have some of the gears stats on them not all of them. There really isn't a point to having a apperance tab anymore since you can mod any gear you want (within your class restrictions) and wear it at any level. Mods determine the gears level and stats, the gear itself is just a apperance shell.
I think it's a interesting system and has the huge upside of significantly reducing the number of things Bioware needs to look at when making changes or adding new stats. A few 100 mods are a lot easier to keep blanaced than a few 1000 pieces of gear. An apperance tab would have been the easier solution for sure but I think putting all the stats on mods makes a much more sustainable long term system.
Oh great, personally I was hoping for this! So does this mean that when I find Consular epic dress, and I'm a Trooper, I can then take stats like endurance out of it as a mod and put it in my own gear? I like the sound of that, it allows me to use quest rewards too where only half of the stats are good for me. I thought the modding applies only to certain gear but this would be even better.
Originally posted by Kuinn Originally posted by udon I'm pretty sure that comment was before they decided to put 100% of the stats on mods. Mods use to only have some of the gears stats on them not all of them. There really isn't a point to having a apperance tab anymore since you can mod any gear you want (within your class restrictions) and wear it at any level. Mods determine the gears level and stats, the gear itself is just a apperance shell. I think it's a interesting system and has the huge upside of significantly reducing the number of things Bioware needs to look at when making changes or adding new stats. A few 100 mods are a lot easier to keep blanaced than a few 1000 pieces of gear. An apperance tab would have been the easier solution for sure but I think putting all the stats on mods makes a much more sustainable long term system.
Oh great, personally I was hoping for this! So does this mean that when I find Consular epic dress, and I'm a Trooper, I can then take stats like endurance out of it as a mod and put it in my own gear? I like the sound of that, it allows me to use quest rewards too where only half of the stats are good for me. I thought the modding applies only to certain gear but this would be even better.
Light, Medium and Heavy armor do get less or more armor from the mods, so you don't really want to wear a robe as a Trooper. Armor depends only on the LvL and grade of the mods.
The mods are the same for all tho and if you find a Consulars robe and want to put that mod with endurance and willpower into your heavy armor chestpiece, then you can do that. Just extract the mod from the robe and slap it into your heavy armor to get the boni.
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That's some ugly armor, they must of employed the blizzard art team.
Like I said before you guys just arent seeing where they got the inspiration for some of the gear
Somebody who doesn't wear heavy armor is going to complain that being able to wear Heavy Armor and Light Armor, while also being able to mod the armor gives classes with heavy armor more options and that it will be unfair.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Yeah except that Star Wars had silly looking outfits since... Forever. Dont hate on SW if Gaga likes to mimic Coruscant fashion
Or Emperors personal guard lol, I dont think Gaga was even born when the red Death Star guard was shown in original films, but yeah, it's still cool to hate, bring it on!
You people gripe about everything. The above is Naga Saddow and Darth Bane BTW.
In Bioware we trust!
Olololol I thought it was Lady Gaga olololol.
The graphics aren't good enough to be from WoW. Did someone take this screencap on a toaster?
Dude not hating making light of a stupid arguement. Man people for this game and against it are so freakin defensive. Not evrything that is said is an attack on your daughters virginity people
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That was the way it worked until very recently. In fact Bioware only had the new system partially implemented for last beta weekend which is why the vast majority of gear didn't have Mod slots on it.
The new system puts all the gears stats on mods and makes the gear itself just a apperance shell. You can put the exact same mods on a piece of heavy armor you go at level 10 as you can one you got at level 50 and you will end up with the same quality and level armor if you put the same mods on both.
I like the new system as it seems a lot more interesting than just slapping a apperance slot into the game and calling it good which I'm sure would have been much simplier to implement. Putting all the stats on mods gives Bioware a lot of flexibility in the future to add new mods without having to worry about rebalancing all the gear they created up to that point.
As for the OP point. As long as I can wear whatever gear I want I really don't care if there is over the top stuff in game. Some people will wear it and some won't. Me I tend to go with simplier looks in MMO's where I can choose. The nice thing is that Bioware is letting us choose at launch.
A bit off-topic here but... is that Palpatine shes shaking hand with..?!
OT: Im sure Biowars is just trying to keep the honorable tradition alive of weird-looking tiers of armor, nothing to see here!
All the gear has base stats, yea you can manipulate them by adding mods but at the end of the day its still a gear based game and saying the endgame pvp or raid gear isnt any different than the regular ingame gear is just a lie.
I dunno, when watching Star Wars movies, most people wore .....clothes?
Sure, there were some armor sets for Troopers or Mercs, but most of the other characters including even some of the main ones wore fairly simple outfits with a few accessories.
I would rather hope SWTOR's end game clothing sets follow a more realistic look and feel and not get too far out there like fantasy MMO's tend to do.
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Jedi Knight armor looks badass. Just saying.
Argh
I honestly dont know what were talking about anymore
Awful, just awful.
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about their take on "moddable" gear (not REALLY moddable). Appearance tabs are always better because:
1) You have more gear to acquire = always fun to research and farm things
2) you have more gera to mix and match
3) getting upgrades or sidegrades always feels good and gives the effect of progression be it vanity or power gear.
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I need to take this advice more.
I like the moddable idea better because then I actually have to do some work to fix my outfit properly for me. Though, I recall Daniel Erikson saying not so long ago that there is not appearance tab in the game currently but they are trying to fix one for the launch or soon after, I'd rather take just the mod-version but as long as I can have a say on my looks I'll gladly accept the tab too.
I'm pretty sure that comment was before they decided to put 100% of the stats on mods. Mods use to only have some of the gears stats on them not all of them. There really isn't a point to having a apperance tab anymore since you can mod any gear you want (within your class restrictions) and wear it at any level. Mods determine the gears level and stats, the gear itself is just a apperance shell.
I think it's a interesting system and has the huge upside of significantly reducing the number of things Bioware needs to look at when making changes or adding new stats. A few 100 mods are a lot easier to keep blanaced than a few 1000 pieces of gear. An apperance tab would have been the easier solution for sure but I think putting all the stats on mods makes a much more sustainable long term system.
Oh great, personally I was hoping for this! So does this mean that when I find Consular epic dress, and I'm a Trooper, I can then take stats like endurance out of it as a mod and put it in my own gear? I like the sound of that, it allows me to use quest rewards too where only half of the stats are good for me. I thought the modding applies only to certain gear but this would be even better.
Oh great, personally I was hoping for this! So does this mean that when I find Consular epic dress, and I'm a Trooper, I can then take stats like endurance out of it as a mod and put it in my own gear? I like the sound of that, it allows me to use quest rewards too where only half of the stats are good for me. I thought the modding applies only to certain gear but this would be even better.
Light, Medium and Heavy armor do get less or more armor from the mods, so you don't really want to wear a robe as a Trooper. Armor depends only on the LvL and grade of the mods.
The mods are the same for all tho and if you find a Consulars robe and want to put that mod with endurance and willpower into your heavy armor chestpiece, then you can do that. Just extract the mod from the robe and slap it into your heavy armor to get the boni.
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Not human enough
Am I the only one thats intensely excited that I'll be able to twink my alts insane looking gear with level appropriate mods?