Bethesda makes deal with Steam to get your MODS for Skyrim over there: Good or Bad?

Classicstar

So Bethesda have made a deal with Steam to make it posible to to find and install all your mods on Steam.

At first seems handy but is this not a way to control even more how to regualte mods and whats aloud or not?

And dont they kill off sites like nexus or fileplanet or whole mods community?

Its seems to me a move to get everything through steam so they can control even more what can or cannot?

I have mixed feelings about this.

What do you guys think?

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/12/01/steam-to-host-skyrim-mods-via-steam-workshop/

Herodes

Are they free or just another sort of buyable DLC?

DarkPony

Link plx.

Hopefully no player mods.

Z3R01

I think it's good.

I know quite a few players that wouldn't use mods in Oblivion because they were confused on how to apply them.

This is great for the players that aren't mod savvy. While the people on Nexus can still do what they've been doing if they want too.

Classicstar

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Classicstar

Originally posted by Herodes

Are they free or just another sort of buyable DLC?

Mods for ElderScrolls are player made content rather very famous MOD community who made some awesome new content for game and its all FREE.

Elder Scroll MODS community is one of biggest and most fanatic out there still even taody they make awesome mods for Morrowind and Oblivion after all these years.

WSIMike

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Unless they specifically "shut down" Nexus or other sites after doing so, I don't think it's going to necessarily effect those sites that much.

There's a lot of people out there who already aren't happy with the idea of having to go through Steam to play in the first place. Being told "you have to get your mods through us as well" isn't going to do much better.

There's also a lot of people who prefer to be more "hands-on" with such things.

Sovrath

Originally posted by Z3R01

I think it's good.

I know quite a few players that wouldn't use mods in Oblivion because they were confused on how to apply them.

This is great for the players that aren't mod savvy. While the people on Nexus can still do what they've been doing if they want too.

Just to point out that Nexus has a downloader that installs mods without the player having to mess around too much with it.

Which is also a good thing.

What this really is, is a way to get players to "be" at the steam portal (or page or whatever it is) when they want a mod. If they are there they might noticed there is a sale on a game and if they like it they might purchase it.

It's not necessarily good or bad for the player but it might take traffic away from Nexus.

Classicstar

Originally posted by Z3R01

I think it's good.

I know quite a few players that wouldn't use mods in Oblivion because they were confused on how to apply them.

This is great for the players that aren't mod savvy. While the people on Nexus can still do what they've been doing if they want too.

Well sorry but its PC thing and its not that hard at all. But im affraid that eventually if they make it this easy nobody go else where its all under one wing called Steam and im not sure if this is good thing?

And if its easy nobody will go to nexus anymore for Elder Scroll mods or fileplanet, witch i always liked something thats 100% open and free by community themselfs.

Nude mods or controversial mods or mods that change game, that maybe Bethesda dont like or Steam dont aloud whats stopping them from blocking those mods?

 

Sovrath

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Unless they specifically "shut down" Nexus or other sites after doing so, I don't think it's going to necessarily effect those sites that much.

There's a lot of people out there who already aren't happy with the idea of having to go through Steam to play in the first place. Being told "you have to get your mods through us as well" isn't going to do much better.

There's also a lot of people who prefer to be more "hands-on" with such things.

But I bet dollars to donuts that more people just want to load the mods and play. They don't want to be hands on. I know I idon't particularly care about being hands on even though there come times when I have to go in and fix some error in a mod.

However, as I mentioned above, Nexus has a downloader that will install your mods. So both entities are taking a step in that direction.

Steam is selling games and Nexus has odd advertisements that really never seem aimed at me. So the average person might prefer to download a mod and then see what other games are on sale.

 

WSIMike

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Unless they specifically "shut down" Nexus or other sites after doing so, I don't think it's going to necessarily effect those sites that much.

There's a lot of people out there who already aren't happy with the idea of having to go through Steam to play in the first place. Being told "you have to get your mods through us as well" isn't going to do much better.

There's also a lot of people who prefer to be more "hands-on" with such things.

But I bet dollars to donuts that more people just want to load the mods and play. They don't want to be hands on. I know I idon't particularly care about being hands on even though there come times when I have to go in and fix some error in a mod.

However, as I mentioned above, Nexus has a downloader that will install your mods. So both entities are taking a step in that direction.

However steam is selling games and Nexus has odd advertisements that really never seem aimed at me. So the average person might prefer to download a mod and then see what other games are on sale.

 

Fair enough.

Time will tell either way.

My main point is, I don't think it's going to "kill" those sites off. 

Sovrath

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Unless they specifically "shut down" Nexus or other sites after doing so, I don't think it's going to necessarily effect those sites that much.

There's a lot of people out there who already aren't happy with the idea of having to go through Steam to play in the first place. Being told "you have to get your mods through us as well" isn't going to do much better.

There's also a lot of people who prefer to be more "hands-on" with such things.

But I bet dollars to donuts that more people just want to load the mods and play. They don't want to be hands on. I know I idon't particularly care about being hands on even though there come times when I have to go in and fix some error in a mod.

However, as I mentioned above, Nexus has a downloader that will install your mods. So both entities are taking a step in that direction.

However steam is selling games and Nexus has odd advertisements that really never seem aimed at me. So the average person might prefer to download a mod and then see what other games are on sale.

 

Fair enough.

Time will tell either way.

My main point is, I don't think it's going to "kill" those sites off. 

oh, I would agree, won't "kill" the sites.

Z3R01

Honestly I don't have an issue with steam since i own over 200 games on the service.

So I would normally have steam open anyway.

It makes adding a mod much more convenient for someone like me even though i have used nexus for a long time.

Omnifish

Bad idea.

 

Steam is a commerical portal for game purchases.  Sticking mods by fans of the game on there is bad on two counts.

 

1. This is pretty much one step away from chargeable DLC, Bioware have been doing this for a while with the Dragon Age franchise.  The first Dragon Age came with a toolkit, the second didn't probably because EA realised how much they made from DLC purchases of the first game and wanted to control the whole pie.  Now there's barely any mods for Dragon Age II.  Bethasda have released expansion packs before but this looks like a back handed way to control access to content through a deal with Steam.

2. It'll probably destory community sites like Nexus and Fileplanet, who've not only been tremendously helpful to Bethasda in development but have contributed a hell of a lot of quality mods for FREE.  In this day an age you never want to alienate a fanbase whose that dedicated and this will.

 

Oh and if you want conveniance go play on a console.  Messing around with config files and settings is par of the course with mods and PC games..

Loktofeit

For me it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. For my wife and son, something like this would rock because they'll be able to click a few buttons and have new stuff in their game without fussing with 'that folder window that daddy uses.'

Z3R01

Originally posted by Omnifish

 

Oh and if you want conveniance go play on a console.  Messing around with config files and settings is par of the course with mods and PC games..

If PC developers thought like you PC gaming would have been dead years ago.

Why do you think Steam is the biggest retail distributor on PC? Its conveniant.

 

How anyone could think its better to hunt for a mod on three different sites, search through a mod file list thousands of mods long and then wade through screen after screen and several installation guides just to get a game to run it right is beyond me.

Seriously, log into steam, click the steam works button, click install mod button, go play.

Sound a hell of a lot better than how we did it previously.

 

FreeBooteR

I hate steam with a passion, i do not want to have any kind of relationship with them at all. I'm really disappointed in Bethesda. Love Skyrim, hate steam.  They almost made the game unplayable for me due to their patch that made you have to use steam to run the game. If it wasn't for somebody making the TESV.exe available unpatched, i could not play the game at all.

Their patch had no effect on pirates at all, but just royally pissed off a large part of their gaming community. I will be extremely wary of buying any further games from Bethesda in the future. I expect to be able to play the games i purchase.

Omnifish

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Omnifish

 

Oh and if you want conveniance go play on a console.  Messing around with config files and settings is par of the course with mods and PC games..

If PC developers thought like you PC gaming would have been dead years ago.

Why do you think Steam is the biggest retail distributor on PC? Its conveniant.

 

How anyone could think its better to hunt for a mod on three different sites, search through a mod file list thousands of mods long and then wade through screen after screen and several installation guides just to get a game to run it right is beyond me.

Seriously, log into steam, click the steam works button, click install mod button, go play.

Sound a hell of a lot better than how we did it previously.

 

I'm sorry this isn't about how,'conveniant', things are for you, it's about yet another developer/publisher trying to control access to it's game after a sale.  Maybe if you stopped thinking about yourself and thought about some of those people who actually develop those mods and supported the developer you might understand that.

Newsflash! PC gaming was fine before Value got in their with Steam.  D2D does exactly the same thing without the  tracking/community things Steam sticks in.  Something being, 'coneniant', doesn't always make it the right thing for every situation and community.  Steam was a good business decision by Value, I think thats the most complimentary thing I can say about it...

Tardcore

DO NOT LIKE.

While I'm sure the automated functionality will be nice for the "file copy and paste challenged", its just another instance of gamers getting sold to an uneeded thrid party that wants to sell them unrelated shyte.

 

 

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Classicstar

Here more fully explained im still not convinced at all.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/02/skyrim-to-receive-strong-mod-support/#more-84462

To those who think its great and easy,  and its not like before.

Let me get this straight a true PC gamer don't want it easy they love messing around tweaking and fixing things sure sometimes it was a mess and you wanne pull out all your hair but thats also charme of this.

Plus fact that we as true PC gamers have so much freedom and now slowly bit by bit take away. I know many prolly will never graps this but im for independence and freedom how i wanne play my games not constrolled by developers or STEAM-ORIGIN-UBISOFT- Bloody Battlenet  and many others.

PC gaming is already dying this is just a small step towards R.I.P PC gaming, thats how i see it anyway.

Feel free see it differently:)

 

Loktofeit

Originally posted by forest-nl

Let me get this straight a true PC gamer don't want it easy they love messing around tweaking and fixing things sure sometimes it was a mess and you wanne pull out all your hair but thats also charme of this.

Feel free see it differently:)

History says you have no clue what you are talking about.

fenistil

Overall ok thing BUT

 

I am afraid that is testing how mods are popular and monetizing this later on. Like additional fee for able to use "mod steam-tools or something" - that would be awful...

 

 

So I am not entirelly ok with this

paterah

Originally posted by Tardcore

DO NOT LIKE.

While I'm sure the automated functionality will be nice for the "file copy and paste challenged", its just another instance of gamers getting sold to an uneeded thrid party that wants to sell them unrelated shyte.

 

You know this is just optional and you can download the mods as you have till now? Yeah....

wolvie3131

 

 

    One thing I see as a huge problem for bethesda

unless Steam is able to correctly place load orders and converge mods together properly.

A million I want it easy fans, will be storming the Skyrim mod forums with waaaahhh my game is teh broke and your mod broke it!! this game sucks.

No thanks to Steam and mods from there, I and probably any other serious mod user will stick with Nexus and proggies like Wire Bash

Bergir

Originally posted by Z3R01

I think it's good.

I know quite a few players that wouldn't use mods in Oblivion because they were confused on how to apply them.

This is great for the players that aren't mod savvy. While the people on Nexus can still do what they've been doing if they want too.

Agreed. I'm a minimalist when it comes to mods. The only game i modded was Oblivion and only had OBMM, Darnified UI, Unofficial Oblivion Patch, Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch, Landscape LOD Texture Replacement and Landscape LOD Texture Replacement Border regions, and the Better water and Better grass INI tweaks.



My kids though, gary's mod anyone, and almost every other game including Minecraft its practically a full time job, I'm already getting Skyrim requests.

DarkPony

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes player mods i serieus think this will hurt nexus for skyrim mods or fileplanet.

Maybe handy all in one place but i think its getting more controll of everything involved with the game.

Unless they specifically "shut down" Nexus or other sites after doing so, I don't think it's going to necessarily effect those sites that much.

There's a lot of people out there who already aren't happy with the idea of having to go through Steam to play in the first place. Being told "you have to get your mods through us as well" isn't going to do much better.

There's also a lot of people who prefer to be more "hands-on" with such things.

Yup. This^