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and playing same game and its variations is like listening one band only as music and liking only one movie,
imagination is not present in this situation.
What's up with that? I' m still playing Street Figther like I'm still playing different other games because I love gaming.
What's wrong?
Nothing to do with desperation and everything to do with who you play with and most of my friends are now playing star wars in the same guild.
Who in the hell ever claimed that anything I write is the work of a genius? I've stated multiple times now, that if you enjoy the game that's great. I never said that I hate the game, I certainly never said that people shouldn't enjoy it. I'm merely saying that there are multiple forms of extremism. There are people who are madly in love with the game, and there are people are absolutely hate the game. The difference between the two is really not so fine. I don't know what else to tell you, so I'm just going to let sleeping dogs lie.
Please, everyone needs to stop taking things so personally. Of course, that's probably the major issue with the internet and those of us who dwell here. M0lly is correct, there is a lack of imagination, creativity, and innovation. While some of us may be happy with the same thing, others are not. The fact is, people are running around saying how this is the game that's broken the mold. There are flaws, just as there are positives, and neither of them are "wrong". Right and wrong have nothing to do with it. We all need to accept the fact that people have differing opinions, and then we can have an actual conversation.
(edit) Y is not R.
To early to tell, only time will tell on this issue. One thing for sure, they didnt spend this much money to have a fail so iI'm sure they will do what they have to even if it meant pumping more money into the game
Perfect example of 'if it aint broke, dont fix it'. Capcom tried 3D fighting, and it just sucked. So they went back to 2D fighting games which people love. Millions of people have fun in themepark MMOs, not every new MMO is out there to change the genre, they just want to be the best of the current standard. SWTOR is that game.
If you want a MMO revolution, wait for GW2, Archeage or TERA, but for the love of god do it quietly. We get it, you dont like theme park MMOs. That doesnt make SWTOR a bad game, it just means that you dont enjoy the themepark MMO genre anymore.
Oh man... this is ...GENIOUS!
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
The desperation is mostly found in the detractors, really; clinging to straws, grasping at loose ends and an alltogether degrading into nitpicking. The people playing it are simply having a great time so far it seems.
But the detractors ...
"This game simply can't be just a very good game afterall!
It's EA!!!!
IT R IMPOSERBALL!
MUST ... POINT OUT ... NEGATIVES!
CRAP! THE FEW NEGATIVES MOST ARE AWARE OF ARE ALREADY MENTIONED AND DISCUSSED ...
LET'S ATTACK THE FANS AND THEIR HYPE INSTEAD!"
Slightly exagerated but that's what I am smelling more and more here.
My brand new bloggity blog.
You can request that people stop taking it personally, but to an outsider you have to release you sound incredibly arrogant and condescending.
Is it deserving of the hype? It's a video game, try and keep things in perspective - you may not be a fan but for a lot of people Swtor happens to be an appealing venue in which to continue their gaming hobby. You honestly come off sounding a bit bitter that it doesn't appeal to you, whether that's your intention or not.
On paper swtor goes against everything I'm personally after in an mmo, or almost everything anyway.
It's a variant of everything we've already seen many times over, and not even my favorite parts of what we've seen, with a new approach to story slapped on top - however despite all of that there's something in there that's really a lot of fun for me to play. Surprisingly.
So, is anything in the entertainment business worthy of the attention it gets? Of course not, but if people enjoy it for what it is, you don't really need to use that as an opening to scurry up your high horse and proclaim insulting and belitteling edicts from on high just because you feel left out.
Swtor, other computer games, movies, sports - none of these are worthy of the attention they receive practically speaking, yet powerful enough to propel someone who's not even a fan to communicate their feelings in public.
Desperation? Get some perspective.
Its my take on people whose argument only ammount to
"It's? fuuuuuun~!"
For a man claiming that I'm apparently condescending and arrogant, you seem to throw out a lot of not-so-subtle insults. Actually, I've insulted no one. I have in no way made attempts, and I harbor no ill-will towards anyone on these boards. If you're someone who wishes to praise god because SWTOR has made its way to your doorstep, more power to you. I suppose I'll just stay atop my metaphorical "high horse" and hope it doesn't buck you on the ass a few times.
The problem with your counter-argument is that PvP has in itself insanely large longevity; the variation from fight to fight can simply be insanely large depending on the players and their choices. This is why RTS, beat-em-up and FPS games can keep using a similar PvP formula and still be fun for a long period of time.
PvE aspects of games, on the other hand, don't have this automatic variation. It is therefore no surprise that more and more people are becoming tired of seeing very similar PvE over and over again.
It's a decent game - sure to keep me busy for a few months, but it wont hold my attention like WoW did, I'll be back to WoW for expac.
I think the use of the word desperation in the op was too much or perhaps too much too soon. All 'hardcore' negativity commentary should be table for 3 to 6 months UNTIL sub retention has leveled out.
And personally, I think very few playing or soon to be playing will be offering an air of desperation at least until a month or two has gone (if then).
Just my opinion.
This is a point that I was attempting to convey, but I ended up deleting about a page of text after deciding that I was taking too long. I agree completely, and I couldn't have said it better myself. I would like to add that there are more elements that could be added, though.
What comes to mind is Resident Evil. I remember in the old RE games the puzzles could be rather complex. The look and feel of the games were entirely different. Those elements really disappeared in later years. My point being that there are many gameplay elements that could be introduced into the genre. Story-telling is obviously the key to SWTOR's appeal. It's not entirely a one-trick-pony, but what it offers isn't exactly blowing my mind. I would again like to mention that I've not only advocated the purchase of the game, but I've talked about the features that I have enjoyed. I don't know if I seem bitter, but I figure I'll go back to not giving a damn about what people think.
Well, people are desperate from the beginning. The want/need to have something other than wow, and the clones that have been set on the table before now have affected the judgement of some. People want to believe that it'll fulfill their desires, and when it doesn't seem to be an utter disappointment they start to make it out to be more than it actually is. I see why people would think that desperation is negative, but it honestly isn't. I mainly wanted to talk about tempering our expectations, and not blowing everything out of proportion.
*edit* I would also like to mention that many people were of bated breath in regard to the release of SWTOR. That, and the multiple failures that have come before it have only built tension.
Just ignore them. Let them have their one post of hater, in a sea of positive posts. They have nowhere else to turn now that the game is semi released, and soon to be fully released. The game is good to me, I could care less what some random guy/girl, I ve never met, and probably never will says.
Why exactly would you care more about a person you likely will meet? It is not like you are going to marry them or write philosophical discourse together.
And in their desperation they turned to a genre they didn't fully understand...
MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).
Yes. Every shipment of SWTOR Standard and Collectors Edition boxes have been injected with a narcotic. The secret is out.
-Azure Prower
http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
It smells? Maybe someone farted.
Seriously. There surely are things in SWTOR not so grand and worth to critizise and improve. But for what MMO isn't that true? Desperation? Come on, this is just out of proportion!
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
The OP comes off as a bitter person who time has passed by. Not everyone enjoys the same set of values or expectations. There are issues in SWToR (character creator for example), but the OP seems mostly interested in railing at the world for being different than him.
What else does a game have to be? To me, "it's fun" is the best reason a person would have to play.. Maybe I'm weird.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So, TOR is the "Be All, End All" of MMO's then?
If a person doesn't like TOR, the only reason that could possibly explain it is that they're simply burnt out on themepark MMOs?
Do you really believe it's that cut and dry?
It doesn't occur to you that maybe - just maybe - they're simply not interested in a MMO set in the Star Wars universe (there are people out there who aren't fans you know)
It doesn't occur to you that maybe they don't enjoy Bioware's take on a themepark MMO as much as other developers'?
It doesn't occur to you that maybe - just maybe - they've played TOR and find it to not be all it's been hyped up as to them, and not something they'd want to invest time or money in?
It doesn't occur to you that maybe - just maybe - they're not crazy about the gameplay, the controls, the graphics, the questing system or any other aspect of it that might not appeal to them?
.. and so on...
None of that occurs to you at all? The only possibility you can fathom is that "those people are "burnt out on themepark MMOs"?
Really?
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops