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RIFT rating changes as SWTOR is released
I find it interesting how RIFT's rating on this website remained pretty stable unitl TOR was released this week. Suddenly the rating is significantly lower. Are those ratings so easily manipulated? It seems evident to me that someone or something artificially lowered the ratings to help promote TOR.
Any conspiracy theories out there on this one?
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It's quite simple and it's called high-school math. Check a bit about rating systems and how they work before starting silly threads.
REALITY CHECK
hmmmm.....
Look who's talking. These ratings are simple scores provided by users. In influx of new ratings for SW would not affect RIFT's score.
The rating does not represent a simple average value of ratings of all users. It scales up or down based on the total (user's) average value of all games. Probably too sophisticated math (yeh high-school) for many, since you're not the first one nor the last one to start silly threads whenever an overhyped (or highly anticipated) game is released, which lowers the rating of all other games for awhile.
REALITY CHECK
Swtor was removed from the "development" tab into the "released" tab. That's what happened. But somehow the scores influence eachother so when Swtor was added a new common treshold or average was calculated and all scores changed.
Something like that. But Ima just a dumb pony V_V.
My brand new bloggity blog.
Not all rating systems are set up in the same manner, simple logic. So, unless you work for this website, you haven't a clue on how they've set up the criteria for their ratings system and therefore the math involved. You are about as clueless as the rest of us, only you paint yourself in the same derogatory manner as you proclaim these others to be.
Sigh, this was suppose to be a direct reply to Thillian, but I guess I pressed the incorrect button.
Funny how different people are.
Because I don't think there's anything interesting about that. Infact, thats one of the least interesting things I've heardthis entire week. I'm greatly sorry I even clicked on this thread.
Um, what's your point?
"Everything the light touches is our kingdom" -- Mufasa
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Trouble in paradise already....I STRONGLY recommend MMORPG not put all their eggs into one basket
...was going to link a few good bye thread I already found for TOR, but ina very Blizzard like move they magically vanished.
Here I'll link this instead...staggering has proven to be a complete and utter failure and all it did was screw people out of playtime
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=255&order=desc
The MMORPG rating system is inaccurate at best, usually laughably so.
I wouldn't worry about it, I have a feeling when people actually play TOR for more than a few months, its actually going to help RIFTs sub numbers.
I highly doubt this. I dont doubt a lot will leave after a few months, but i think tis going to be *very* toough to go to Rift from SWTOR because Rift's lack of soul will stick out like a sore thumb.
His post is correct. It's on this very site's FAQs: http://www.mmorpg.com/faq.cfm/showFaq/15/The-scores-on-the-game-list-all-just-drastically-changed-what-is-happening.html
What is this "soul" you think Rift lacks? It's obvious and very apparent that those that know what Rift is all about have stayed and know not to waste their time on the heap of rubbish that is SWTOR. I've been keeping a very close eye on server activity since SWTOR has been released and have seen no change in Rift's population whatsoever.
It went from 6/27 servers low pop during weekend primetime to 11/27. Yup, no change whatsoever.
I think there is a proper word for Rift 'fanbois': Ostriches.
The ONLY servers that went down were the ones that were newbie recommended servers... The ones with all the low levels. My statement still stands. I only count 5 servers that changed... flunctuated rather. And those 5 servers were already low population.
This further proves my point that those that know what Rift is all about stay and don't waste their time playing SWTOR.
That's pretty interesting. The scores themselves are fairly meaningless...they are a rank, not an actual rating.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
My point is proven. People like to make all kinds of excuses of why Rift's population is down. There are no magical Rift shards with 'all the low level people'.
Ill take a stab at the soul thing in Rift. Lore: its basically an uninteresting overly complicaed attempt at story telling, a very boring one at that. They are stories I cared Little about and were basically full of lofty fantistical words that appeared to be saying something but really wernt, their lore seemed more like it came out of someone's "random lore generator website.
Personality: Non existant, dry, humorless, uniteresting NPC's that bark mostly annoying things in annoying voice overs.
GAmeworld, cookie cutter in every way. Nothing and I mean nothing in this gameworld design every struck me as awesome, it was just one been there done that setting after another. Ill give you it was done with nice graphics but thats one of its only strengths.
So , yes souless to me for sure. GAmes with Personality that brought a game world alive in its own way:
EQ1
UO
AC
LOTRO
AOC
WOW
VANGAURD
Regardless of how these games have done overtime they all had unique art styles and some sort of personality (soul). Rift was just like a fantasy game re-run with overly complicated underwhelming skills and spells. It was like all those buttons on your blender that basically do the same thing but they are only there to make your blender seem more powerful/
Not to mention having you customer databased hacked potentially exposing the personal information of all your subscribers to the hackers rarely does good things for a game's popularity to say the least...
I would also have to agree that Rift lacks soul. There are plenty of BAD games that have more soul than RIFT, which was a pretty flawless game from a technical standpoint. I really wanted to like it, but it had no soul.
I am pretty sure the idea is to kill the dragons who keep messing stuff up. The concept was not that hard to grasp and was better then WoW's revolving cast of characters who were bad, but you would never know because all they did was sit there and wait for you to come to them.
Hmmmmz hold on isn't that every single MMO before Rift. They sat there and never came to you. You always had to goto their Icecrown Citadel, Firelands, or Ulduar. They WERE SUCHHHH major threats to the world, but you never actually got attacked by them.
Earlier in Rift today I did a few zone invasions that showed up and wrecked stuff. The problem people have in Rift is when they lose a zone invasion they expect the zone to be COMPLETELY shut down. You guys wanted EXTREMELYYYYYY sandbox ideas to apply to a themepark and when Trion gave you guys the middle finger most the trash turned on them and claimed no innovation.
It truely is sad to see how Rift has been rejected by the sheeple been led from one mmo to the next, but hey shit happens. So while you guys continue to jump from mmo to mmo crying for stuff Trion gave you I will be laughing. Take my word I am laughing everyday at TOR players misery and once GW2 launches and can only live up to 1 of the 30 different promises they are making I will still be laughing.
Now go along over to the TOR forums and cry for stuff a little game called Rift launched with.
Come at me when Rift gets actual competition and not some sorry excuse for a pretend mmo. In my view Rift is still the best thing on the market and everyday I see WoW fans or TOR fans crying for stuff they had in Rift, but no longer have I smile
Hmmmmz hold on isn't that every single MMO before Rift. They sat there and never came to you. You always had to goto their Icecrown Citadel, Firelands, or Ulduar. They WERE SUCHHHH major threats to the world, but you never actually got attacked by them.
Earlier in Rift today I did a few zone invasions that showed up and wrecked stuff. The problem people have in Rift is when they lose a zone invasion they expect the zone to be COMPLETELY shut down. You guys wanted EXTREMELYYYYYY sandbox ideas to apply to a themepark and when Trion gave you guys the middle finger most the trash turned on them and claimed no innovation.
It truely is sad to see how Rift has been rejected by the sheeple been led from one mmo to the next, but hey shit happens. So while you guys continue to jump from mmo to mmo crying for stuff Trion gave you I will be laughing. Take my word I am laughing everyday at TOR players misery and once GW2 launches and can only live up to 1 of the 30 different promises they are making I will still be laughing.
Now go along over to the TOR forums and cry for stuff a little game called Rift launched with.
Come at me when Rift gets actual competition and not some sorry excuse for a pretend mmo. In my view Rift is still the best thing on the market and everyday I see WoW fans or TOR fans crying for stuff they had in Rift, but no longer have I smile
Glad you like Rift. Its guilty of many of the same issues that I have with ToR. Just another MMO that just pushes the boundaries enough to say its different. While serving another rehash of what has been done and redone and redone before. Does that make Bioware and Trion bad companies? No they know what sells and they do sell well polished products that suit their customers desires. In fact content wise I would hazard that Rift and TOR are almost polar opposites at the current moment. While Rift is raid and endgame heavy, which is what you really like by your prior posts belittling quests and leveling content. TOR is exact opposite of that, though its just released so it remains to be see how raid heavy TOR will get.
So while this post actually means little to those that are so fervent and fanatically in bashing others likes and opinion while each waving theirs as the true way that everyone should think. I honestly wish that you guys would play your games and stop electronically shoving each other around.
You guys keep raging against raids wanting it to die, but wtf is the point of guilds if you actually succeed? Rift dropped a 1 gig patch in 1.6 without a 20man raid. If anything they are taking foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr to release the next 20man. The focus has been on 10man and smaller content, YET people still cry the game is too raid focused.
It goes to show those of us on the forum do not know shit either that or people need to admit they are hypocrites. Want me to show you want. Want to compare something?
Rift did their early launch on 2/25/2011 ok
2/27/2011 - http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/95887-hotfix-1-na-8-00am-pst-2-26-11-eu-3-00am-gmt-27-2-11-a.html
very next day 2/28/2011 http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/98905-hotfix-2-na-7-40pm-pst-2-28-11-eu-4-25am-gmt-29-2-11-a.html
3/2/2011 http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/103687-hotfix-3-na-8-00am-pst-3-3-11-eu-4-20am-gmt-3-3-11-a.html
3/4/2011 http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/106303-hotfix-4-na-6-00am-pst-3-4-11-eu-14-00am-gmt-4-3-11-a.html
same damn day 3/4/2011 http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/108090-hotfix-5-na-8-00am-pst-3-5-11-eu-4-45am-gmt-5-3-11-a.html
3/10/2011 http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/patch-notes/116999-rift-1-01-na-3-10-11-8-00am-pst-eu-10-3-11-a.html
^ look at the sheer length of those notes
This is TOR
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=71457
Not even live yet, but on the "pts" server while people are posting almost non stop constant bug reports about one thing after another that is broken in the game.
People want to sit here and question Trion as a dev when Blizzard had to ban 100 of their best guilds this last patch DUE TO A EXPLOIT THOSE SAME DAMN GUILDS REPORTED MULTIPLE time or Bioware taking how many days to do what a company with 1/3 their budget made look easy.
Trion spoiled everyone and now you expect it from Bioware and more then likely ArenaNET. Like I said I am placing my bets with Rift. They have screwed by listening to the cry babies, but they sure as hell can admit a mistake and fix it.
Go ahead and place your bets with Rift. Just make sure you don't put too much money on it. And I love how you paint the TOR fans as miserable, and crying about not having things that Rift does. Can you paint a more dishonest picture of reality? Trust me, the vast majority of the players in this game aren't the least bit miserable. We are enjoying the hell out ourselves and finding in TOR what we couldn't find in games like Rift: Namely, a thing we like to call "fun."
That's not to say there are some things we won't want to see implemented to improve the game, but the positives of actually having a fun MMO to play far outweigh any negatives from not having every single feature in place at launch. And I'll also say this: If TOR ever becomes a glorified lobby game like Rift in which I can wait in queue for basically every aspect of gameplay, from dungeons, to warfronts, and even for questing...then I'm going to be walking away from that too. I hope Bioware never dumbs down their game mechanics to the point that Trion has done with Rift.
No where in my post did I rage against raids. Was merely a comment saying that Rift is raid heavy. If you take that as a negative connotation then so be it. The only thing negative about my post was your past posts say that leveling and questing matters little.
I already gave and still do give >both<, key word there, companies their kudos on making good solid games. But each sticks to the same old tired formula of MMOs. Do they try a few things with a different twist? Yes they do. Rift with its Soul system and Rift content. SWTOR with its companion and storyline questing. They sell games they make profits at the end of the day and that is what matters. Pleasing a burnt out grumpy MMO-player does not factor into it.