If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
For me this game does deserve a shitty rating. Why? For all the money spent and this huge IP they managed to create a shallow wow clone themepark. It is just a huge dissapointment and I would not rate the game more than 3-4.
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
For me this game does deserve a shitty rating. Why? For all the money spent and this huge IP they managed to create a shallow wow clone themepark. It is just a huge dissapointment and I would not rate the game more than 3-4.
Is that it?
Do you still play FPS or any Total War game?
You must have hated Skyrim and Fallout: New Vages.
If you hate it because its just like Game X or Y then there are plenty of other games that you should hate.
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
For me this game does deserve a shitty rating. Why? For all the money spent and this huge IP they managed to create a shallow wow clone themepark. It is just a huge dissapointment and I would not rate the game more than 3-4.
Then I know I can't relate to impressions you have of games, and I will most likely ignore any advice given.
Second what does "fooled" have to do with it? It's a matter of being sick of or not being sick of. You seem to be saying those who like the game are being fooled in some way... that just isn't the case.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
PLENTY of games deserve 0-3 you play the new
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
PLENTY of games deserve 0-3 you play the new
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
You know after thinking about it more, I think user reviews are best treated kind of like a "Rotten Tomatoes" of games. Where a "positive" review gets essentially a 100% always, and a "negative" review gets a 0% always.
But on average you get quite an accurate score on how the gaming community feels.
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
PLENTY of games deserve 0-3 you play the new
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
If you read the reviews alot of them is bringing up the same thing that the critiques on this forum have. Shallow themepark, WoW copy, single player game, poor character customization, instanced and artifical world etc.
It seems that people are not as easily fooled anymore.
Then voting 0-3.
I have yet to play a game that diserves that, have you?
PLENTY of games deserve 0-3 you play the new
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
You know after thinking about it more, I think user reviews are best treated kind of like a "Rotten Tomatoes" of games. Where a "positive" review gets essentially a 100% always, and a "negative" review gets a 0% always.
But on average you get quite an accurate score on how the gaming community feels.
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
you can just look at past metacritics and see average reviews overall on meta are generally a tad lower than critic review average but ARE pretty accurate view of how the general gaming population view the game
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
AOC? Many hated it at release but changed their tune as FC updated the game , that goes for users and press.
We're talking about an MMO here, week one ratings are worthless IMO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I think STO actually benefitted from its lack of popularity, in a way. TOR is getting ripped apart more, because it has so many more people trying it, whereas STO failed so badly, it was never even hyped that much.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
I haven't read those reviews. Suffice to say some will review it fairly and negatively and it is only opinion nothing more.
In 6 months we shall have the definitive answer of SWTOR's success. I am changing my mind. I think the game will take away a lot of subscribers from WOW. It could be the WOW killer.
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
I cant see STO being much worse than SW:TOR
oh it WAS! or should I say IS
LOL yeah. People that think this games deserves under a 6 must have never played truly bad games.
Look at it this way...if you give SWTOR a 3, then what the hell are you going to give Duke Nukem Forever or Bodycount? Low ratings are reserved for the TRULY terrible games. And no matter how much you want to believe it, SWTOR is not truly terrible.
I see it as a 7-8, very polished, fun in parts, but fundamentally flawed. I could see someone give it a 6, but this would be pushing it. But under a 6??? Come on...
You know after thinking about it more, I think user reviews are best treated kind of like a "Rotten Tomatoes" of games. Where a "positive" review gets essentially a 100% always, and a "negative" review gets a 0% always.
But on average you get quite an accurate score on how the gaming community feels.
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
you can just look at past metacritics and see average reviews overall on meta are generally a tad lower than critic review average but ARE pretty accurate view of how the general gaming population view the game
Yes thats why this game maintains an 8.40 on this site that is full of sandbox fanboies.
That is why BF3 out sold CODMW3 and so on.
Because Metacritic user reviews always represent what the majority of games think.
LOL yeah. People that think this games deserves under a 6 must have never played truly bad games.
Look at it this way...if you give SWTOR a 3, then what the hell are you going to give Duke Nukem Forever or Bodycount? Low ratings are reserved for the TRULY terrible games. And no matter how much you want to believe it, SWTOR is not truly terrible.
I see it as a 7-8, very polished, fun in parts, but fundamentally flawed. I could see someone give it a 6, but this would be pushing it. But under a 6??? Come on...
agreed 7 is a good score for the game which is also what I would of given rift when i played that at launch
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
I cant see STO being much worse than SW:TOR
oh it WAS! or should I say IS
LOL yeah. People that think this games deserves under a 6 must have never played truly bad games.
Look at it this way...if you give SWTOR a 3, then what the hell are you going to give Duke Nukem Forever or Bodycount? Low ratings are reserved for the TRULY terrible games. And no matter how much you want to believe it, SWTOR is not truly terrible.
I see it as a 7-8, very polished, fun in parts, but fundamentally flawed. I could see someone give it a 6, but this would be pushing it. But under a 6??? Come on...
As much as I disagree with you on fundementally flawed part I have to agree with the rest.
You know after thinking about it more, I think user reviews are best treated kind of like a "Rotten Tomatoes" of games. Where a "positive" review gets essentially a 100% always, and a "negative" review gets a 0% always.
But on average you get quite an accurate score on how the gaming community feels.
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
you can just look at past metacritics and see average reviews overall on meta are generally a tad lower than critic review average but ARE pretty accurate view of how the general gaming population view the game
Yes thats why this game maintains an 8.40 on this site that is full of sandbox fanboies.
That is why BF3 out sold CODMW3 and so on.
Because Metacritic user reviews always represent what the majority of games think.
in MOST cases yes it does not all but most.. but just go look through histories of games the AVERAGE is pretty accurate
I think STO actually benefitted from its lack of popularity, in a way. TOR is getting ripped apart more, because it has so many more people trying it, whereas STO failed so badly, it was never even hyped that much.
People's critiques are based on their expectations.
And when people's hopes are ruined, then they tend to rate lower than they normally would have, even a 0 out of anger because they feel slighted by the company for tricking them into false hope.
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
AOC? Many hated it at release but changed their tune as FC updated the game , that goes for users and press.
We're talking about an MMO here, week one ratings are worthless IMO.
AoC is an exception, yes, but I'd say for obvious reason - it was severely unstable at launch. Not even just infinished, but a bug infested mess of a game. One of the worst cases in MMO history of releasing prematurely, and well known as such. Downright unplayable by lots of people. I don't see any sort of issues like that with TOR.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
I cant see STO being much worse than SW:TOR
oh it WAS! or should I say IS
LOL yeah. People that think this games deserves under a 6 must have never played truly bad games.
Look at it this way...if you give SWTOR a 3, then what the hell are you going to give Duke Nukem Forever or Bodycount? Low ratings are reserved for the TRULY terrible games. And no matter how much you want to believe it, SWTOR is not truly terrible.
I see it as a 7-8, very polished, fun in parts, but fundamentally flawed. I could see someone give it a 6, but this would be pushing it. But under a 6??? Come on...
As a single player game I would agree but as an MMORPG this game is a travesty. It has absolutely no business trying to be an MMORPG because so much focus has been put on the single player storyline.
So yes, I would rate it 4 because it is simply a devolution of the genre. I would never pay anything more than 10 euros to buy this game, ever.
I think STO actually benefitted from its lack of popularity, in a way. TOR is getting ripped apart more, because it has so many more people trying it, whereas STO failed so badly, it was never even hyped that much.
People's critiques are based on their expectations.
And when people's hopes are ruined, then they tend to rate lower than they normally would have, even a 0 out of anger because they feel slighted by the company for tricking them into false hope.
Finally someone who gets it. Expectations, which are not fulfilled, has a tendency to lower the score by itself.
People's critiques are based on their expectations.
And when people's hopes are ruined, then they tend to rate lower than they normally would have, even a 0 out of anger because they feel slighted by the company for tricking them into false hope.
You're just reinforcing that they're to be ignored...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I read well over 50 of those review comments on Meta, and every low rating there was pissed off because the game was too Story centric for them, too much and RPG, and too little a combat MMO. Hmm, after 5 years of putting up with the stat junkie, group centric, gear twinkin fools from all these MMOs out there I say its ABOUT DAMN TIME SOMEONE CAME OUT WITH AN RPG MMO THAT ACTUALLY HAS A STORY WORTH PLAYING!!
All I wanted to say on this topic.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
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For me this game does deserve a shitty rating. Why? For all the money spent and this huge IP they managed to create a shallow wow clone themepark. It is just a huge dissapointment and I would not rate the game more than 3-4.
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Stronghold 3.
Is that it?
Do you still play FPS or any Total War game?
You must have hated Skyrim and Fallout: New Vages.
If you hate it because its just like Game X or Y then there are plenty of other games that you should hate.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Then I know I can't relate to impressions you have of games, and I will most likely ignore any advice given.
Second what does "fooled" have to do with it? It's a matter of being sick of or not being sick of. You seem to be saying those who like the game are being fooled in some way... that just isn't the case.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
PLENTY of games deserve 0-3 you play the new
Jurrasic Park game? so bad.. how about star trek online? just horrible.. there are plenty of awful games out there
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
wow I really stirred the pot here. No thanks for giving you guys a heads up the game was getting ripped like that
Some of the user comments on Meta are priceless.
I cant see STO being much worse than SW:TOR
That's what I'm saying, too. I think it averages out to be pretty accurate, even if individuals tend to be ridiculously extreme.
Also, I'd expect it to fall as the game ages, not rise. The biggest surge of positivity always seems to come when a game launches. Maybe TOR will be an exception to that, but I don't know why it would be. Especially being an MMO. As your average gamers get tired of a game (as they tire of ALL games) they tend to rate it lower.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
oh it WAS! or should I say IS
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
It definitely is... could have been SO good.
you can just look at past metacritics and see average reviews overall on meta are generally a tad lower than critic review average but ARE pretty accurate view of how the general gaming population view the game
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
AOC? Many hated it at release but changed their tune as FC updated the game , that goes for users and press.
We're talking about an MMO here, week one ratings are worthless IMO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I think STO actually benefitted from its lack of popularity, in a way. TOR is getting ripped apart more, because it has so many more people trying it, whereas STO failed so badly, it was never even hyped that much.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
I haven't read those reviews. Suffice to say some will review it fairly and negatively and it is only opinion nothing more.
In 6 months we shall have the definitive answer of SWTOR's success. I am changing my mind. I think the game will take away a lot of subscribers from WOW. It could be the WOW killer.
LOL yeah. People that think this games deserves under a 6 must have never played truly bad games.
Look at it this way...if you give SWTOR a 3, then what the hell are you going to give Duke Nukem Forever or Bodycount? Low ratings are reserved for the TRULY terrible games. And no matter how much you want to believe it, SWTOR is not truly terrible.
I see it as a 7-8, very polished, fun in parts, but fundamentally flawed. I could see someone give it a 6, but this would be pushing it. But under a 6??? Come on...
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Yes thats why this game maintains an 8.40 on this site that is full of sandbox fanboies.
That is why BF3 out sold CODMW3 and so on.
Because Metacritic user reviews always represent what the majority of games think.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
agreed 7 is a good score for the game which is also what I would of given rift when i played that at launch
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
As much as I disagree with you on fundementally flawed part I have to agree with the rest.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
in MOST cases yes it does not all but most.. but just go look through histories of games the AVERAGE is pretty accurate
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
People's critiques are based on their expectations.
And when people's hopes are ruined, then they tend to rate lower than they normally would have, even a 0 out of anger because they feel slighted by the company for tricking them into false hope.
AoC is an exception, yes, but I'd say for obvious reason - it was severely unstable at launch. Not even just infinished, but a bug infested mess of a game. One of the worst cases in MMO history of releasing prematurely, and well known as such. Downright unplayable by lots of people. I don't see any sort of issues like that with TOR.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
As a single player game I would agree but as an MMORPG this game is a travesty. It has absolutely no business trying to be an MMORPG because so much focus has been put on the single player storyline.
So yes, I would rate it 4 because it is simply a devolution of the genre. I would never pay anything more than 10 euros to buy this game, ever.
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Finally someone who gets it. Expectations, which are not fulfilled, has a tendency to lower the score by itself.
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You're just reinforcing that they're to be ignored...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I read well over 50 of those review comments on Meta, and every low rating there was pissed off because the game was too Story centric for them, too much and RPG, and too little a combat MMO. Hmm, after 5 years of putting up with the stat junkie, group centric, gear twinkin fools from all these MMOs out there I say its ABOUT DAMN TIME SOMEONE CAME OUT WITH AN RPG MMO THAT ACTUALLY HAS A STORY WORTH PLAYING!!
All I wanted to say on this topic.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)