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Eastern MMOs are becoming "adult" centric

LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

By adult, I mean

http://news.mmosite.com/content/q/2012-01-02/top_10_sexy_adult_mmorpgs_in_2011_1.shtml

They aren't even beating around the bush anymore, they're straight up throwing softcore porn into their games with Soul Calibur type armor destruction, now here's my question:

I won't lie, Aion was a screw up but the closest thing to an Western MMO. I play Eastern MMOs for graphics and community but truth be told prefer Western MMO mechanics (namely, World of Warcraft as nearly all Western games have their combat system, and quest systems based on World of Warcraft).

What's up with NA as a whole? I don't think EU has a problem with "adult centric" MMOs (Age of Conan), but it seems like everyone in NA is afraid of bikini plate, wants "realism" (magic is realism amirite), or are just insecure about females running around in S&M suits dominating the battlefield.

Your thoughts?

 

EDIT: Forgot something, for a nation who's pronographic industry rivals Japans, and porn's technology is usually advanced by a few years versus general internet (only to be advanced by the army)...why is the community so hostile to sex?

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  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by wabben77

    {mod edit}

    ^

    And this is exactly what I meant.

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  • wabben77wabben77 Member Posts: 47

    as long as men can wear codpieces and penis necklaces i'm all for it

  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by wabben77

    as long as men can wear codpieces and penis necklaces i'm all for it

    My bad, I forgot how Western MMO players were. Western ppl sure are a hell of a lot nicer than Eastern ppl though, in real life.

    ???

     

    EDIT: lol, these forums don't support anything but English characters.

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  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    My personal theory is everyone in NA is overweight and unnatractive and therefor prefer ugly games(WoW) to make us feel better.

    I personally prefer something eastern and sexy if i'm going to be staring at it for hours a day.

  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by Alders

    My personal theory is everyone in NA is overweight and unnatractive and therefor prefer ugly games(WoW) to make us feel better.

    I personally prefer something eastern and sexy if i'm going to be staring at it for hours a day.

    ....

    Hope we don't get flamed. I feel the same way. I'm debating if I should start linking Facebook, gf, whatever pictures to preemptively defend myself from incoming generic internet strikes. maybe this topic was a bad idea lol

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  • wabben77wabben77 Member Posts: 47

    You can see sexy outfits every time you turn on the television, open a magazine, watch porn, or glance down a sidewalk. Why do you want it in video games too? 

  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by wabben77

    You can see sexy outfits every time you turn on the television, open a magazine, watch porn, or glance down a sidewalk. Why do you want it in video games too? 

    You just answered your own question.

    Also, "sexy outfits" nearly only exist in Eastern games, it's very rare at all to see them in any Western game period. Mortal Kombat might have been one of the few first, but that game was crucified to the point where it became popular. And I don't know where you live, but the only place I see "sexy" women are at university and my gf in bed, when I glance down the side walk I see fat, old, or ugly people. All hail university....and gf.

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  • pierthpierth Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    OP, when nations are based on prudish religions you get societies that are prudish and shame those who aren't.

  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,177

    Originally posted by Alders

    My personal theory is everyone in NA is overweight and unnatractive and therefor prefer ugly games(WoW) to make us feel better.

    I personally prefer something eastern and sexy if i'm going to be staring at it for hours a day.

    I resent that. I am not overweight...just unattractive. 

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  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by pierth

    OP, when nations are based on prudish religions you get societies that are prudish and shame those who aren't.

    You mean Christianity? I'm Catholic myself...but truly agnostic (the one where you don't care, not the one where you don't believe, I forgot if that's the right word).

     

    But...that is a really good point, I should do some digging and see what the hell my nations are based on.

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  • AdalwulffAdalwulff Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,152

    Why the duelism? I mean, why would does it mean a person has some form of "phobia" just because they dont want porn in thier video games?

    Im usually not in the mood for porn when playing video games, and visa versa.

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  • LienhartLienhart Member UncommonPosts: 662

    Originally posted by Adalwulff

    Why the duelism? I mean, why would does it mean a person has some form of "phobia" just because they dont want porn in thier video games?

    Im usually not in the mood for porn when playing video games, and visa versa.

    Because porn and games are two very different things.

    Porn involves two people having sex.

    Sexy girls in video games involve either

    #1. Females in outfits that would never work irl dominating everything in sight.

    #2. Soul Calibur type stripping.

    Neither of the above can be done in pr0n without making the viewer cringe. Put it in games, plus it sells....oh screw it, culture clash, I'll stick to Eastern games -_-

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  • haibanehaibane Member Posts: 178

    Just go to Moscow, Kiev, Bucharest, Singapore (they'll be half nakked there too and play Counterstrike still), Seoul (best in Asia !), Tokyo (roppongi XD) and u'll find plenty'o sexyness when u look down the sidewalk. Even Europe has some good places too, like 'dam or Barcelona, some places in Paris too.

    But it's true that for what i saw stateside, u can forget about the sidewalk (and the beach, baywatch's just a plain lie lol) only hotness i saw were either in clubs or shopping mall...

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  • eye_meye_m Member UncommonPosts: 3,317

    Why not make a game where the armor actually offers the protection that it would essentially give, but yet keep the skimpy armors for people that like it. Hell, you could even leave high heels in the game, but the toon suffers a movement penalty.  In all fairness though, if a toon is dressed up in full plate, there would be a encumbrance penalty on them too.

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  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    I'm sort of thinking that "adult" is being confused with targeting adolescent males.  I would think that's obvious from most of the advertising.

     

    Games turn up the cleavage volume trying to compete with each other for the mid-teens market.


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  • Mister_ReMister_Re Member Posts: 142
    In japan there are actually porn video games, which is kinda weird.. But also hentai aka cartoons for perves.*hentai=perverted* translation
    But hey, we have public execution, they have more "sexual" tolerance for entertainment
  • blognorgblognorg Member UncommonPosts: 643

    Originally posted by Lienhart

    By adult, I mean

    http://news.mmosite.com/content/q/2012-01-02/top_10_sexy_adult_mmorpgs_in_2011_1.shtml

    They aren't even beating around the bush anymore, they're straight up throwing softcore porn into their games with Soul Calibur type armor destruction, now here's my question:

    I won't lie, Aion was a screw up but the closest thing to an Western MMO. I play Eastern MMOs for graphics and community but truth be told prefer Western MMO mechanics (namely, World of Warcraft as nearly all Western games have their combat system, and quest systems based on World of Warcraft).

    What's up with NA as a whole? I don't think EU has a problem with "adult centric" MMOs (Age of Conan), but it seems like everyone in NA is afraid of bikini plate, wants "realism" (magic is realism amirite), or are just insecure about females running around in S&M suits dominating the battlefield.

    Your thoughts?

     

    EDIT: Forgot something, for a nation who's pronographic industry rivals Japans, and porn's technology is usually advanced by a few years versus general internet (only to be advanced by the army)...why is the community so hostile to sex?

    Just our of curiosity, what eastern games are you talking about when you're refering to graphics? Final Fantsy XIV looks pretty nice, but most eastern games that I see don't really look very good. I'm not trolling, just curious. Unless you're also talking about style. For instance, I like the sprites in Ragnarok Online, but it it doesn't really have good graphics, per se.

  • MaxJacMaxJac Member Posts: 185

    This is one of the screenshots from the link. I know some people will get pissy, I was one of those people long ago, about how armor should be realistic to protect the character. I no longer think that way. I am okay with something like this, where it is just barely not nudity, as long as it has context. If it isn't inline with a part of the story, get it out of there. Otherwise, I actually like the idea of more adult themed MMORPG's. Throw a boob out there if you want, just make sure it has context. I could even see myself danging my private eye as I charge out of a situation where I was held against my will, such as in Kane and Lynch 2.

  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034

    t.t.t.t.t koreans are bad bad boys...

     

    I'll contact the vatican immediatly on that issue.

     

    Queen's blade win the show for me with their super sexy trailer and their female only mmo, that's the spirit.

  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673

    Originally posted by MaxJac

    I am okay with something like this as long as it has context. If it isn't inline with a part of the story, get it out of there.

    This is basically it. Story shouldn't be taken to literally there, it is about believability. If it makes sense for a character to wear a plate bikini, that's fine. It it's supposed to be protective armor, that doesn't make sense.

  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239

    Originally posted by eyelolled

    In all fairness though, if a toon is dressed up in full plate, there would be a encumbrance penalty on them too.

    Oh lord, not that old chesnut - knights clanking around and unable to get off the ground kind of thing.  Knights in plate could run, jump and even do forward rolls on the ground, even though it weighted 50 or 60lbs, because they TRAINED for it for YEARS and because the armour was designed for ease of movement.  Check out National Beographic's "Medieval Fight Book" documentary.

  • EnoshEnosh Member Posts: 140

    well that's a first
    usually I hear people whining about the bikini armor, not complaining that there isn't enough of it

  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081

    Just a few years back Their was a remake of the movie called " Journey to the center of the earth ".

    It was by far the most shallow movie I had ever watched....Yet, it was made in 3D with a very hot looking female actor that was flashing her Butt the entire movie. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT !.......It was like soft porn to hide the fact that it was a poor movie.

     

    Nothing wrong with pleasing to the eye character's in video games, Eastern Western or European, but leave soft porn out of it.

     

    Is this really a topic !!!!!!!!!!!

  • HrothaHrotha Member UncommonPosts: 821

    Originally posted by Lienhart

    By adult, I mean

    http://news.mmosite.com/content/q/2012-01-02/top_10_sexy_adult_mmorpgs_in_2011_1.shtml

    They aren't even beating around the bush anymore, they're straight up throwing softcore porn into their games with Soul Calibur type armor destruction, now here's my question:

    I won't lie, Aion was a screw up but the closest thing to an Western MMO. I play Eastern MMOs for graphics and community but truth be told prefer Western MMO mechanics (namely, World of Warcraft as nearly all Western games have their combat system, and quest systems based on World of Warcraft).

    What's up with NA as a whole? I don't think EU has a problem with "adult centric" MMOs (Age of Conan), but it seems like everyone in NA is afraid of bikini plate, wants "realism" (magic is realism amirite), or are just insecure about females running around in S&M suits dominating the battlefield.

    Your thoughts?

     

    EDIT: Forgot something, for a nation who's pronographic industry rivals Japans, and porn's technology is usually advanced by a few years versus general internet (only to be advanced by the army)...why is the community so hostile to sex?

    Well, from my own experience I can name you to things, where anything in this world shows that something is going wrong/lacks of customers and ideas:

    a) when they bring overdone nudity into something... might it be a dancing-club, a film or even a video game

    b) when they bring overdone gore into it - film / game

    2 major points that shows that someone ran out of ideas.

     

    My thoughts?

    F*cking switch on your brains, developers and create an in-depth storyline with well written characters, skills and what so ever! Otherwise you can count a veteran gamer in to become one of your customers.

    Period.

     

    EDIT: Btw clever me looking at this picture once I've already written this post - this is out of one of countless Asian MMO-clones out there. No wonder... they are all a "flatter" of ideas...

    /sigh

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  • fenistilfenistil Member Posts: 3,005

    Metal high heels , sluty outfits =/= adult

     

    I don't have nothing against nudity (since it was mentioned by OP, EU here) , but most of eastern games have just bad style nudity = ridiculous 12-year old wet-dream style nudity with man characters in full armors and female on metal high heels and in metal bikinis.

     

    So I don't mind nudity or / and skin , just don't like HOW it is done in 95% of eastern mmorpg's.

     

    Fortunatelly ArcheAge seem to be diffrent in this matter and while female characters are definately preety , and I am sure that it will be possible to make more 'revealed' character if someone is willing - this game's style is much better than for example TERA's high heels, panties and small loli girls race...

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