So what. The next content update is inbound. People will return.
Edit: That's how gaming works, you blaze through the existing content, have a blast, do something else, and return when new content is available.
Like they returned to Rift-Warhammer-AoC-Aion-Lotro etc?
Name a game that the subscribers turned back after they canceled their subscription.
Very few to none and SWTOR is heading the same direction.
my toughts excatly, if the game without expansions cannot hold players thro first month after release it is a fail.
also today gaming industry players are greedy and they rush thro content and yes complain nothing to do but then again this kinda setting with dark side versus light side you should have created masterpiece pvp endgame war originally not some crappy warzones.
1 Full server – 0 Very Heavy – 27 Heavy – Rest Servers Standard.
I guess those are low numbers comparing a few days back.
Every day more and more ppl get to lvl 50. Every day they realize that there is nothing to do except the same old grinding. The only thing to do is running dungeons and later raids. PvP sucks and there are only 3 warzones. Crafting is generic and boring. World is dead and there is few to none to do out there.
The end of free month approaches…
I say, finally, it's like 1 months we just got, non costructive post, random hating,blogs screaming how much the game is bad etc.
I really hope when the free months end,all the ppl that not like the game, can finally go hating some other game, maybe rift or wow i don't care, just go away and never come back, so i can ride my rollercoaster themepark mmorpg without need to read this crap anymore, thank u!.
I decided not to sub, it was a lot of fun at first, but ultimately didn't feel MMO enough to warrent a subscription. I'll stick with WoW for the time being.
Edit: it is a great game though but just like DCUO not worth a subscription to me. If it went F2P like Guild Wars or DCUO I would be down with playing it every now and then.
So what. The next content update is inbound. People will return.
Edit: That's how gaming works, you blaze through the existing content, have a blast, do something else, and return when new content is available.
Like they returned to Rift-Warhammer-AoC-Aion-Lotro etc?
Name a game that the subscribers turned back after they canceled their subscription.
Very few to none and SWTOR is heading the same direction.
Since 2003 I have subscribed, canceled and resubbed to: SWG, FFXI, Lotro, EQ2, WoW, Aion, AoC, Rift, and STO. Especially when they had content patches and expansions. It's really not unheard of and probably why I still enjoy mmorpgs as much now as I did then. I'm not burnt out on ONE game and am not afraid to unsub when I'm bored and resub when their is new content.
Currently I'm playing SWTOR and will be subbing until I get bored, which right now, isn't likely due to my goal being to see each class's storyline. Once I hit that nebulous goal, if ever THEN I may consider unsubbing, but by then, I have a feeling there will have been lots of content added.
So while your free month is up, I have yet to invest in this game. I am not a hardcore SW IP fan (tho I do happen to own a r2d2 droid, it is a great companion) but an appreciator.. or else I feel I would not have been able to pass it up. My impression is that this game was meant to take you through a storyline while allowing for the MMO feel, this means that focus is not placed at all on competitive pvp, endgame content, and the tidbits like playing some chess against a new friend or holdem at the casino that can fill the times when you don't want to or don't have the players to tackle that big dragon, er i mean, deathstar. Assuming that is the directive, I still believe that the game has it's place, people will purchase, and receive at least as much if not months more for their monies than a typical console game. If I could land some meaningful employment ;P then I might be enticed to spend a few months perfecting Hutball strategies until another competitive game releases, while continuing the search for the one massive, immersive, and most appealing MMO, the elements of which are all available, tried, tested, and properly executed. ~V~
1 Full server – 0 Very Heavy – 27 Heavy – Rest Servers Standard.
I guess those are low numbers comparing a few days back.
Every day more and more ppl get to lvl 50. Every day they realize that there is nothing to do except the same old grinding. The only thing to do is running dungeons and later raids. PvP sucks and there are only 3 warzones. Crafting is generic and boring. World is dead and there is few to none to do out there.
The end of free month approaches…
A few days ago was also the weekend..which..at least on my server is typically busier than a weekday during my hours of play.
But go ahead....put on your sandwich board and cry apocalypse.
Actually looking forward to the departure of the lookie-loos. Should decrease the white noise level considerably.
this my friend is the best post i have seen from swtor thread since swtor lunched!
What will you do when they all leave? Play frisbee with your NPC companion rather than ultimate frisbee hutball? Take seperate Xwings to the party, make lots of credits with nothing to spend it on, help NPC Jawas and show off your rainbow lightsabers to no one? I'm not hatin, I'm just curious and hungry for a good game. ~V~
Someone mentioned EQ earlier in the thread: EQ had opened 2 classic servers last year, I think they're now at having released the SoL expansion set? Was fun to play around in classic EQ again on full servers when they launched the new servers.
OP topic: dunno if server status is that good as indication, if I understand it correctly they've gradually increased the server cap over the weeks, just like Trion did with Rift. So the meaning of the status 'full' and 'heavy' in the 1st week or 2 is different from the meaning now.
Xfire and raptr aren't that much better indicators, but Xfire showed in the last week of 2011 like 9.5-10k players (65-75k hrs) and now around 10.5-11k players (55-70k hrs), and raptr showed something like 140k hours in that week to something like 130k played hours the past week for SWTOR.
Doesn't sound that bad, but will be more clear after the 20th I guess.
Actually looking forward to the departure of the lookie-loos. Should decrease the white noise level considerably.
this my friend is the best post i have seen from swtor thread since swtor lunched!
What will you do when they all leave? Play frisbee with your NPC companion rather than ultimate frisbee hutball? Take seperate Xwings to the party, make lots of credits with nothing to spend it on, help NPC Jawas and show off your rainbow lightsabers to no one? I'm not hatin, I'm just curious and hungry for a good game. ~V~
You miss the part about MMO's being a gaming community, I spend more time running around helping guildmates then I do worrying about my toons.
You might get more out of the game(s) worrying about and assisting others than your own me me gratification.
What will you do when they all leave? Play frisbee with your NPC companion rather than ultimate frisbee hutball? Take seperate Xwings to the party, make lots of credits with nothing to spend it on, help NPC Jawas and show off your rainbow lightsabers to no one? I'm not hatin, I'm just curious and hungry for a good game. ~V~
They can stay, or go, as their individual viewpoints dictate, and it's fine either way. That's how a free market works.
It's the ones that stay, and complain and complain and complain some more that are the real irriatants, as far as message boards go. No message board is ever completely free of them, of course, but a factor-of-two reduction in the constant ad nauseam repetition of same white noise would be a welcome change.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Trying to unsub but can't access my account on their website because I answered the security question wrong when I first installed the game (I made the account 2 years ago, and forgot the answer to 1 out of the three questions). Now it says my account is locked out, and to contact customer service. Why do they need THREE security questions? What is this an FBI document just let me log into my damn account
I have been playing since it officially came out and am lvl 17. I love the quests and the voice overs, why anyone would race through this game is beyond me. Doin some space, helping people lvl up and also playing skyrim. So lvl cap is a long way off for me and i am enjoying almost every second of the story line
So what. The next content update is inbound. People will return.
Edit: That's how gaming works, you blaze through the existing content, have a blast, do something else, and return when new content is available.
Believe you mean thats how "Bad games" work.
Technically to be fair, thats how themeparks work.
I'll take a good sandbox that doesnt require constant dev input over a themepark ride that gets boring the day after the content patch any day.
You might see a good sandbox before you die. Sadly the people who want sandbox games don't realize that most of their criteria is out dated and stale. It's rather funny when they ask in forums "What has your game done that's innovative?" when all they want is a new UO (which I'll be mean and say was only successful because it had little if any competiition).....
1 Full server – 0 Very Heavy – 27 Heavy – Rest Servers Standard.
I guess those are low numbers comparing a few days back.
Every day more and more ppl get to lvl 50. Every day they realize that there is nothing to do except the same old grinding. The only thing to do is running dungeons and later raids. PvP sucks and there are only 3 warzones. Crafting is generic and boring. World is dead and there is few to none to do out there.
The end of free month approaches…
I think this really depends on the time of day right now it's Tuesday at 2pm EST and in Europe I see,
5 - Full Servers, 18 - Heavy Servers, 42 - Heavy and the rest Standard where the North American servers are Light to Standard right now. This of course will change later today and the NA servers will be have more Full and Heavy Servers as people get home from school and work. These numbers will for sure go down when the free month is over.
It's funny you say there is nothing to do after 50 however I'm watching livestreams with groups of level 50s playing every day. What game out there right now has anything else other that dailys, raids and dungeons to do after they've reached the highest level?
You don't like the PvP or the Warzones or it seems much to do with this game maybe this game just isn't for you.
Oh i will be here for a few more months, have quite a few characters but my highest level is 34, taking it easy, doing guildstuff and just having a blast And the incoming update is looking very nice, i doubt the server i play on will be affected by this free month ending since everyone in general on every planet keeps spouting love for the game. So doomsayers, give it atleast half a year.
Trying to unsub but can't access my account on their website because I answered the security question wrong when I first installed the game (I made the account 2 years ago, and forgot the answer to 1 out of the three questions). Now it says my account is locked out, and to contact customer service. Why do they need THREE security questions? What is this an FBI document just let me log into my damn account
you really ask after about a million "my acc got hacked!" post in different games why they want to secure them even more?
you really ask after about a million "my acc got hacked!" post in different games why they want to secure them even more?
Agreed.
You can never win. Fix one problem people will complain about the solution.
Don't fix the problem, people will complain about the problem and suggest the same solution that would have fixed it... then when it is implemented they'll complain about the fix.
I have been playing since it officially came out and am lvl 17. I love the quests and the voice overs, why anyone would race through this game is beyond me. Doin some space, helping people lvl up and also playing skyrim. So lvl cap is a long way off for me and i am enjoying almost every second of the story line
eddieg50, you are doing it wrong.
The only correct way to play an mmorpg is to get a bedpan and a nutrient iv drip, and play 25 hours a day.
After two weeks when you are at max level, you complain on the forums how little content the game has.
L2Play noob!
(The above post is not intended to offend anyone, and is intentionally sarcastic)
I have been playing since it officially came out and am lvl 17. I love the quests and the voice overs, why anyone would race through this game is beyond me. Doin some space, helping people lvl up and also playing skyrim. So lvl cap is a long way off for me and i am enjoying almost every second of the story line
Lvl 40 (agent) lvl36 counsilor lvl24smugler lvl21jug +12 lvl15-20 characters. Started day 2 pre-release.
Done -all- flashpoints up to 40 about a dozen times, the lower onces probaly 30 times or more. (collecting gear,helping others) spent huge huge amounts of time in the game. (own choice,had nothing better to do anyway,..well I have but eh..)
I rushed absolute Nothing. No level race, no skipping voice overs, exploring every corner of every map.
why I tell this? well for one simple reason, if you do this..then the game will stop being fun whitin 3 weeks/end of act one (lvl30-33)
this game is build for players who might play one or two hours a day, perhaps a few more but then only every other day, its the best casual mmo game to date. but if youre a bit crazy, have a bit more free time and play the game more then that..it will start to bore you real fast, the only reason I could imagen a more "hardcore" mmo player stays after the first month would be that he or she plays it whit a great group of friends (like any mmo, friendship/community is the best means to keep players playing even if a game would be utter crap)
So, im glad you have fun, only lvl17 so its sertainly still fresh to you, keep playing&paying it casual and it will stay that way
then again..there are people who simply like to spent 8+ hours running from a-b killing x and y ..each their own
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my toughts excatly, if the game without expansions cannot hold players thro first month after release it is a fail.
also today gaming industry players are greedy and they rush thro content and yes complain nothing to do but then again this kinda setting with dark side versus light side you should have created masterpiece pvp endgame war originally not some crappy warzones.
I say, finally, it's like 1 months we just got, non costructive post, random hating,blogs screaming how much the game is bad etc.
I really hope when the free months end,all the ppl that not like the game, can finally go hating some other game, maybe rift or wow i don't care, just go away and never come back, so i can ride my rollercoaster themepark mmorpg without need to read this crap anymore, thank u!.
yup and i uninstalled this gaem about one week ago...just aint doing the job for me...
I decided not to sub, it was a lot of fun at first, but ultimately didn't feel MMO enough to warrent a subscription. I'll stick with WoW for the time being.
Edit: it is a great game though but just like DCUO not worth a subscription to me. If it went F2P like Guild Wars or DCUO I would be down with playing it every now and then.
Since 2003 I have subscribed, canceled and resubbed to: SWG, FFXI, Lotro, EQ2, WoW, Aion, AoC, Rift, and STO. Especially when they had content patches and expansions. It's really not unheard of and probably why I still enjoy mmorpgs as much now as I did then. I'm not burnt out on ONE game and am not afraid to unsub when I'm bored and resub when their is new content.
Currently I'm playing SWTOR and will be subbing until I get bored, which right now, isn't likely due to my goal being to see each class's storyline. Once I hit that nebulous goal, if ever THEN I may consider unsubbing, but by then, I have a feeling there will have been lots of content added.
this my friend is the best post i have seen from swtor thread since swtor lunched!
So while your free month is up, I have yet to invest in this game. I am not a hardcore SW IP fan (tho I do happen to own a r2d2 droid, it is a great companion) but an appreciator.. or else I feel I would not have been able to pass it up. My impression is that this game was meant to take you through a storyline while allowing for the MMO feel, this means that focus is not placed at all on competitive pvp, endgame content, and the tidbits like playing some chess against a new friend or holdem at the casino that can fill the times when you don't want to or don't have the players to tackle that big dragon, er i mean, deathstar. Assuming that is the directive, I still believe that the game has it's place, people will purchase, and receive at least as much if not months more for their monies than a typical console game. If I could land some meaningful employment ;P then I might be enticed to spend a few months perfecting Hutball strategies until another competitive game releases, while continuing the search for the one massive, immersive, and most appealing MMO, the elements of which are all available, tried, tested, and properly executed. ~V~
A few days ago was also the weekend..which..at least on my server is typically busier than a weekday during my hours of play.
But go ahead....put on your sandwich board and cry apocalypse.
What will you do when they all leave? Play frisbee with your NPC companion rather than ultimate frisbee hutball? Take seperate Xwings to the party, make lots of credits with nothing to spend it on, help NPC Jawas and show off your rainbow lightsabers to no one? I'm not hatin, I'm just curious and hungry for a good game. ~V~
OP topic: dunno if server status is that good as indication, if I understand it correctly they've gradually increased the server cap over the weeks, just like Trion did with Rift. So the meaning of the status 'full' and 'heavy' in the 1st week or 2 is different from the meaning now.
Xfire and raptr aren't that much better indicators, but Xfire showed in the last week of 2011 like 9.5-10k players (65-75k hrs) and now around 10.5-11k players (55-70k hrs), and raptr showed something like 140k hours in that week to something like 130k played hours the past week for SWTOR.
Doesn't sound that bad, but will be more clear after the 20th I guess.
Believe you mean thats how "Bad games" work.
Technically to be fair, thats how themeparks work.
I'll take a good sandbox that doesnt require constant dev input over a themepark ride that gets boring the day after the content patch any day.
You miss the part about MMO's being a gaming community, I spend more time running around helping guildmates then I do worrying about my toons.
You might get more out of the game(s) worrying about and assisting others than your own me me gratification.
They can stay, or go, as their individual viewpoints dictate, and it's fine either way. That's how a free market works.
It's the ones that stay, and complain and complain and complain some more that are the real irriatants, as far as message boards go. No message board is ever completely free of them, of course, but a factor-of-two reduction in the constant ad nauseam repetition of same white noise would be a welcome change.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
oh its definitely going to get quieter thats for sure...
Trying to unsub but can't access my account on their website because I answered the security question wrong when I first installed the game (I made the account 2 years ago, and forgot the answer to 1 out of the three questions). Now it says my account is locked out, and to contact customer service. Why do they need THREE security questions? What is this an FBI document just let me log into my damn account
I have been playing since it officially came out and am lvl 17. I love the quests and the voice overs, why anyone would race through this game is beyond me. Doin some space, helping people lvl up and also playing skyrim. So lvl cap is a long way off for me and i am enjoying almost every second of the story line
lolmac you were lucky they raised that to 5 question now!
You might see a good sandbox before you die. Sadly the people who want sandbox games don't realize that most of their criteria is out dated and stale. It's rather funny when they ask in forums "What has your game done that's innovative?" when all they want is a new UO (which I'll be mean and say was only successful because it had little if any competiition).....
I think this really depends on the time of day right now it's Tuesday at 2pm EST and in Europe I see,
5 - Full Servers, 18 - Heavy Servers, 42 - Heavy and the rest Standard where the North American servers are Light to Standard right now. This of course will change later today and the NA servers will be have more Full and Heavy Servers as people get home from school and work. These numbers will for sure go down when the free month is over.
It's funny you say there is nothing to do after 50 however I'm watching livestreams with groups of level 50s playing every day. What game out there right now has anything else other that dailys, raids and dungeons to do after they've reached the highest level?
You don't like the PvP or the Warzones or it seems much to do with this game maybe this game just isn't for you.
Oh i will be here for a few more months, have quite a few characters but my highest level is 34, taking it easy, doing guildstuff and just having a blast
And the incoming update is looking very nice, i doubt the server i play on will be affected by this free month ending since everyone in general on every planet keeps spouting love for the game. So doomsayers, give it atleast half a year.
you really ask after about a million "my acc got hacked!" post in different games why they want to secure them even more?
Agreed.
You can never win. Fix one problem people will complain about the solution.
Don't fix the problem, people will complain about the problem and suggest the same solution that would have fixed it... then when it is implemented they'll complain about the fix.
Can't win.
The average person is far, far too stupid.
eddieg50, you are doing it wrong.
The only correct way to play an mmorpg is to get a bedpan and a nutrient iv drip, and play 25 hours a day.
After two weeks when you are at max level, you complain on the forums how little content the game has.
L2Play noob!
(The above post is not intended to offend anyone, and is intentionally sarcastic)
Lvl 40 (agent) lvl36 counsilor lvl24smugler lvl21jug +12 lvl15-20 characters. Started day 2 pre-release.
Done -all- flashpoints up to 40 about a dozen times, the lower onces probaly 30 times or more. (collecting gear,helping others) spent huge huge amounts of time in the game. (own choice,had nothing better to do anyway,..well I have but eh..)
I rushed absolute Nothing. No level race, no skipping voice overs, exploring every corner of every map.
why I tell this? well for one simple reason, if you do this..then the game will stop being fun whitin 3 weeks/end of act one (lvl30-33)
this game is build for players who might play one or two hours a day, perhaps a few more but then only every other day, its the best casual mmo game to date. but if youre a bit crazy, have a bit more free time and play the game more then that..it will start to bore you real fast, the only reason I could imagen a more "hardcore" mmo player stays after the first month would be that he or she plays it whit a great group of friends (like any mmo, friendship/community is the best means to keep players playing even if a game would be utter crap)
So, im glad you have fun, only lvl17 so its sertainly still fresh to you, keep playing&paying it casual and it will stay that way
then again..there are people who simply like to spent 8+ hours running from a-b killing x and y ..each their own