But guess what? And this is the really good part. You actually don´t have to pay for it if you don´t like it!!! They aren´t holding a gun to any subscriber telling them to pay or else... Do you see the difference there?
Well, actually they have forced people who don't like the game to pay for it (you know, the auto-sub fiasco), but that's beside the point. Your post makes absolutely no sense in regards to topic, so I'll just leave you to your confusion and hope for the best.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
It doesn't matter what sv does, this website will have the same 3 to 4 people that bash on this game obsessively.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
I think we need to point out that NOTHING has changed. As of today the UI and AI etc are all the same. At some undetermined time in the future SV claims they will be fixed. Same story we have heard for about 2 years now. Only difference is that this time they are calling it an expansion. One would think that after all the previous instances where SV has promised revolutionary patches and changes that were never before seen in the MMO world, and then failed to deliver, that some fans would learn not to count promises as fact. Not here.
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Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
We have not seen these changes yet, they are not in-game, 100% implemented, working as intended, free of gamebreaking bugs and exploits.
We don't even have an ETA. All we have is SV saying that this "expansion" will be totally awesome and revolutionary. They've said that many times before, about features that are either not implemented yet, or 50% implemented, with a huge amount of serious bugs and instabilities, dupes and exploits.
One would think this behaviour would lead to a certain scepticism... but not among fanboys.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
We have not seen these changes yet, they are not in-game, 100% implemented, working as intended, free of gamebreaking bugs and exploits.
We don't even have an ETA. All we have is SV saying that this "expansion" will be totally awesome and revolutionary. They've said that many times before, about features that are either not implemented yet, or 50% implemented, with a huge amount of serious bugs and instabilities, dupes and exploits.
One would think this behaviour would lead to a certain scepticism... but not among fanboys.
This. Two can play the "but not here" game looks like.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
The problem is you are expecting us to blindly just believe these things will all come to pass and not yet be enother dissapointment. For once.... regardless of SV's and Henriks track record.... this will be the one time SV delivers on all that is promised, this will be the one time where everything will work, this will be the one time this isn't just hype propaganda.
Yes.... these things would be a boon for the game, there is no question about that and you know it. The problem comes in when people ask themselves "Can and will SV deliver this time?".
So can and will SV deliver? Past experiences would say no.
And if they don't deliver you and others will simply be on here telling those complaining that SV is just an indie dev with a small team so cut them some slack, they can't compete with the big guys again.
Other random fans with user names that have been deleted will come in talking about how great the patch is regardless of how many problems it has and even if it is missing everything listed that would be in.
Others and including Theia will be here saying Henrik never promised any of those things and that people misunderstood his english.
We've done this I don't know how many times.
Everytime something big is planned you and others get on our case for not being excited or confident that SV can pull it off. They fail pull it off and then you guys come back saying things like "Well they never promised these things" or "They're a small team" or you'll have others come in saying how it's all wonderful even if an entire city has just been deleted killing many players and deleting all there items.
Tindrem looks awesome, but that screenshot really didn't do it justice. I mean looking at Tindrem over the mountains near Fab, Tindrem looks much better. The arena should be awesome when it's finally released.
Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
Tindrem looks awesome, but that screenshot really didn't do it justice. I mean looking at Tindrem over the mountains near Fab, Tindrem looks much better. The arena should be awesome when it's finally released.
Just like how Town Control was going to be awesome "when it was released"?
I don't know how you believe that something is going to be awesome when past precedent tells you that it almost definitely won't be.
I love that the devs are hyping so much those updates as "extentions" which are always "revolutionary" and "MO 2.0 or MO3.0" while in fact they are just bits of what the game should be supposed to look like.
MO basically was released like 5% finished and everytime they add an extra 2 % of the game, they say its an extention.
I'm sorry but this game is just the worse scam ever. I feel sorry for the people paying, you're getting abused.
I love that the devs are hyping so much those updates as "extentions" which are always "revolutionary" and "MO 2.0 or MO3.0" while in fact they are just bits of what the game should be supposed to look like.
MO basically was released like 5% finished and everytime they add an extra 2 % of the game, they say its an extention.
I'm sorry but this game is just the worse scam ever. I feel sorry for the people paying, you're getting abused.
Also not one person working for MO said MO 2.0 or 3.0 - that's well.. rubbish.
Yeah, except for your own CEO calling previous patches for MO 2.0. Get your facts straight:
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; epic patch is getting closer, we just want it to work well, and of course to live up to most expectation
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; As, there is indeed major differences
[23:19] <@HenrikNystrom>; if you wont notice a diff, then I dont know hehe..
Also not one person working for MO said MO 2.0 or 3.0 - that's well.. rubbish. There is MO 1.0 that's all we need. ever.
Yet another easilly proven falsehood. Henrick said it himself.. AND confirmed it when someone asked if he really meant it. This was in regards to the "Epic" patch about a year ago.
Please do some research on your own company...
I see someone has linked the quote... here is the followup question and answer where Henrick CONFIRMS his comment:
[23:27] <[BRB]Mojoz> henrik don't make hype you won't be able to live upto, claiming its going to be "Mortal Online 2" is a massive statement to make o.O
[23:28] <@HenrikNystrom>; Mojoz, hehe I stand by that sentence
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I love that the devs are hyping so much those updates as "extentions" which are always "revolutionary" and "MO 2.0 or MO3.0" while in fact they are just bits of what the game should be supposed to look like.
MO basically was released like 5% finished and everytime they add an extra 2 % of the game, they say its an extention.
I'm sorry but this game is just the worse scam ever. I feel sorry for the people paying, you're getting abused.
Also not one person working for MO said MO 2.0 or 3.0 - that's well.. rubbish.
Yeah, except for your own CEO calling previous patches for MO 2.0. Get your facts straight:
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; epic patch is getting closer, we just want it to work well, and of course to live up to most expectation
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; As, there is indeed major differences
[23:19] <@HenrikNystrom>; if you wont notice a diff, then I dont know hehe..
I love that the devs are hyping so much those updates as "extentions" which are always "revolutionary" and "MO 2.0 or MO3.0" while in fact they are just bits of what the game should be supposed to look like.
MO basically was released like 5% finished and everytime they add an extra 2 % of the game, they say its an extention.
I'm sorry but this game is just the worse scam ever. I feel sorry for the people paying, you're getting abused.
Expansions, raff, E X P A N S I O N S .. what's an extention? Hair repair? Needed? Not industry speak is it?
Not very professional to pick on someones language as a representative for SV, specially considering that your own CEO doesn't know the difference between dyeing and dying.
Not very professional to pick on someones language as a representative for SV, specially considering that your own CEO doesn't know the difference between dyeing and dying.
Yeah, it's really embarrasing, to be honest.
Free advice for Theia: as an official representative of a company, refrain from getting personal with people, refrain from insulting or ridiculing them, refrain from emotional responses.
If you can't handle that amount of professionalism, just don't post here as an official representative at all.
Not very professional to pick on someones language as a representative for SV, specially considering that your own CEO doesn't know the difference between dyeing and dying.
Yeah, it's really embarrasing, to be honest.
Free advice for Theia: as an official representative of a company, refrain from getting personal with people, refrain from insulting or ridiculing them, refrain from emotional responses.
If you can't handle that amount of professionalism, just don't post here as an official representative at all.
Then again he does perfectly reflect the rest of StarVault in its entirety.
Not very professional to pick on someones language as a representative for SV, specially considering that your own CEO doesn't know the difference between dyeing and dying.
Yeah, it's really embarrasing, to be honest.
Free advice for Theia: as an official representative of a company, refrain from getting personal with people, refrain from insulting or ridiculing them, refrain from emotional responses.
If you can't handle that amount of professionalism, just don't post here as an official representative at all.
Then again he does perfectly reflect the rest of StarVault in its entirety.
Btw, for those of you who are still waiting for their veteran award.. which is still a typical SV euphemism anyway: It seems like they simply don't know anymore who bought the boxed version!
They didn't find that information neccessary to store. It looks like a case of "We got the money, we don't have the boxes anyway, so let's just delete the file with the orders." They were obviously planning to never compensate the customer for their losses. Isn't this the definition of willful fraud?
Classy.
I'm really waiting for the last act of this spectacle. Personally I think someone should sue them just for the hilarity. Someone who bought the boxed version. Someone with a legal expenses insurance.
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Well, actually they have forced people who don't like the game to pay for it (you know, the auto-sub fiasco), but that's beside the point. Your post makes absolutely no sense in regards to topic, so I'll just leave you to your confusion and hope for the best.
Improving the GUI and AI, and adding some economic tools, will be a definite boon to this game. The critics have lambasted the game because these have been weaknesses, one would think these changes would be positive things.... Not here.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
It doesn't matter what sv does, this website will have the same 3 to 4 people that bash on this game obsessively.
I think we need to point out that NOTHING has changed. As of today the UI and AI etc are all the same. At some undetermined time in the future SV claims they will be fixed. Same story we have heard for about 2 years now. Only difference is that this time they are calling it an expansion. One would think that after all the previous instances where SV has promised revolutionary patches and changes that were never before seen in the MMO world, and then failed to deliver, that some fans would learn not to count promises as fact. Not here.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
We have not seen these changes yet, they are not in-game, 100% implemented, working as intended, free of gamebreaking bugs and exploits.
We don't even have an ETA. All we have is SV saying that this "expansion" will be totally awesome and revolutionary. They've said that many times before, about features that are either not implemented yet, or 50% implemented, with a huge amount of serious bugs and instabilities, dupes and exploits.
One would think this behaviour would lead to a certain scepticism... but not among fanboys.
This. Two can play the "but not here" game looks like.
First fix the 1 bilion bugs the game has then think of a expansion... sigh
The problem is you are expecting us to blindly just believe these things will all come to pass and not yet be enother dissapointment. For once.... regardless of SV's and Henriks track record.... this will be the one time SV delivers on all that is promised, this will be the one time where everything will work, this will be the one time this isn't just hype propaganda.
Yes.... these things would be a boon for the game, there is no question about that and you know it. The problem comes in when people ask themselves "Can and will SV deliver this time?".
So can and will SV deliver? Past experiences would say no.
And if they don't deliver you and others will simply be on here telling those complaining that SV is just an indie dev with a small team so cut them some slack, they can't compete with the big guys again.
Other random fans with user names that have been deleted will come in talking about how great the patch is regardless of how many problems it has and even if it is missing everything listed that would be in.
Others and including Theia will be here saying Henrik never promised any of those things and that people misunderstood his english.
We've done this I don't know how many times.
Everytime something big is planned you and others get on our case for not being excited or confident that SV can pull it off. They fail pull it off and then you guys come back saying things like "Well they never promised these things" or "They're a small team" or you'll have others come in saying how it's all wonderful even if an entire city has just been deleted killing many players and deleting all there items.
Man I'm getting tired of this infinite loop.
Reading this thread alone I think I know now why the sandbox cry babies root for sandbox features in every other game lol.
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Tindrem looks awesome, but that screenshot really didn't do it justice. I mean looking at Tindrem over the mountains near Fab, Tindrem looks much better. The arena should be awesome when it's finally released.
Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
Just like how Town Control was going to be awesome "when it was released"?
I don't know how you believe that something is going to be awesome when past precedent tells you that it almost definitely won't be.
@teratoma001 tindrem will be opened along with dynamic npc traveling doing their own business, you could affect them, things going on itself
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I love that the devs are hyping so much those updates as "extentions" which are always "revolutionary" and "MO 2.0 or MO3.0" while in fact they are just bits of what the game should be supposed to look like.
MO basically was released like 5% finished and everytime they add an extra 2 % of the game, they say its an extention.
I'm sorry but this game is just the worse scam ever. I feel sorry for the people paying, you're getting abused.
Yeah, except for your own CEO calling previous patches for MO 2.0. Get your facts straight:
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; epic patch is getting closer, we just want it to work well, and of course to live up to most expectation
[23:17] <@HenrikNystrom>; As, there is indeed major differences
[23:19] <@HenrikNystrom>; if you wont notice a diff, then I dont know hehe..
[23:19] <@HenrikNystrom>; We are talking Mortal Online 2
http://mmofallout.com/2010/09/26/henrik-this-patch-so-epic-its-like-mortal-online-2/
Yet another easilly proven falsehood. Henrick said it himself.. AND confirmed it when someone asked if he really meant it. This was in regards to the "Epic" patch about a year ago.
Please do some research on your own company...
I see someone has linked the quote... here is the followup question and answer where Henrick CONFIRMS his comment:
[23:27] <[BRB]Mojoz> henrik don't make hype you won't be able to live upto, claiming its going to be "Mortal Online 2" is a massive statement to make o.O
[23:28] <@HenrikNystrom>; Mojoz, hehe I stand by that sentence
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
haha OWNED !
Not very professional to pick on someones language as a representative for SV, specially considering that your own CEO doesn't know the difference between dyeing and dying.
Yeah, it's really embarrasing, to be honest.
Free advice for Theia: as an official representative of a company, refrain from getting personal with people, refrain from insulting or ridiculing them, refrain from emotional responses.
If you can't handle that amount of professionalism, just don't post here as an official representative at all.
Then again he does perfectly reflect the rest of StarVault in its entirety.
Bullshit , when they fix prediction and start banned cheateers after ithis MO maybe will be good game
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He who keeps his cool best wins.
*peeks in the thread and whistles*
Shit's gettin deeep up in heeeere.
The Deep Web is sca-ry.
Btw, for those of you who are still waiting for their veteran award.. which is still a typical SV euphemism anyway: It seems like they simply don't know anymore who bought the boxed version!
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/70948-veteran-thread-gone.html
They didn't find that information neccessary to store. It looks like a case of "We got the money, we don't have the boxes anyway, so let's just delete the file with the orders." They were obviously planning to never compensate the customer for their losses. Isn't this the definition of willful fraud?
Classy.
I'm really waiting for the last act of this spectacle. Personally I think someone should sue them just for the hilarity. Someone who bought the boxed version. Someone with a legal expenses insurance.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/361/view/forums/thread/332813/page/8
Starvault - (man, I had a great comment to make here but edited myself out in order to save these quotes.) [Mod Edit]
What happened to GMTheia's posts in this thread? I can see him being quoted by others and I know I had read them so I know they existed.