First off LOL is in no shape or form a MMO, just a FPS with some strategy thrown in.
Secondly, yeah there are a lot of Eve detractors, but then show me one other decent MMO that offers any semblence of a challenge. I can't think of any. Despite all it's problems Eve still offers a myriad of paths to develop you avatar which none of the shoe horn MMO's even come close to.
Breaking News Big fight in 92D-0I – one Raiden. and one GSF titan down.
There is a big fight going on at the moment between the Deklein Coalition (led by GoonSwarm Federation) and the joined forces of Raiden., Ev0ke, The Initiative family, among other entities. We’ll keep updating how things go in this thread, so far this is what we got:
- One Raiden Erebus Titan is down belonging to Huntet Lifeform, from X13 corp.
- Local has reached 1380.
- Both fleet initially commited their super-capital fleet. We are told the DekCo super-capital fleet pulled out without issues.
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1380 players in same location, actively fighting. Nice, eh? And this is purely player driven event. CCP do not tell you who, when or how you should fight. They gave you ship hulls, modules for them and sandbox to fly that ships in.
As sidenote: they gave tools, but better tool itself does not make you winner in eve. Your actions, teamwork and coordination are.
You can lose your ship or your whole fleet can be taken down if you fail. And that is not merely inconvenience: all destroyed ships are completely lost, they will not respawn. Risk is real.
Originally posted by EVEnews24.com
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- Fight seems to be watering down, the DekCo Maelstrom Fleet has taken a severe beating by Raiden. tracking titans. 90 Maelstroms dead estimated.
- The DekCo/GSF dread fleet has been completely decimated. +40 dreads down, they had jumped and sieged when the Raiden. Erebus was bumped out of shields. Along with the dread fleet there was about 3 titans and 25 super-carriers.
- The Raiden. titan pilot, gallantly lost an Erebus, reshipped in an Abbadon and came back to the fight.
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Now imagine similar news for any other game? "Big dungeon raid currently going on, one damage dealer down, priest managed to escape. Party's stuff damaged by one point."
Name another MMO that has been going for almost a decade? No level caps and the drama and gameplay is mainly player driven. Free updates and can pay for the game with ingame money.
Eve will outlast Rift and ever other MMO that is released in the upcoming decade.
Maybe MMORPG.com should just award Eve the Game of the decade award, lifetime acheivement etc and bar it from competing against all the flashy new games that will burn out in 2 years.
Good to see that MMO community makes right choices. At least in best MMO and most anticipated department. RIFT as most innovative looks comical though
Yeah Im still trying to figure out the real innovation of Rift. Letting you choose between 8 talent trees instead of 3 and having 5 specs instead of 2 isnt innovation. Rifts and invasions arent an innovation. Public group system I think was a first though. Oh and they certainly innovated the process of merging servers by saying its 'converting to trial'.
Then again, what other game deserved to win? None.
1. You don't need to watch the screen whilst mining all the time, most miners are semi-afk.
2. You don't need to watch the screen whilst trading all the time, most traders are semi-afk.
3. You don't need to watch the screen whilst travelling all the time, most people travelling between hubs are semi-afk.
4. Most of the time i speak in chat, everyone is semi-afk.
If anyone doesn't alt-tab during an evening in EvE, i want to know wtf they are doing thats so balls-to-the-wall exciting. I'll be resubbing next week, but this is reality, this is fact, unless you are gate camping (semi-afk as you will be called back over vent), you don't really need to look at the screen, unless (as any vet will tell you) you are in a battle which constitutes approximately (again vet percentages, not mine) 5% of your total playtime.
Again, i'll be resubbing, but i won't lie to people.
Numbered those for you - easier to repond.
1. Most miners (who are not bots ) are dual boxing. Mining on one and doing something else moar productive on another account (scouting, PVP, scanning, etc)
2. Trading - see above
3. Travelling - If you're traveling in a shuttle (or something else equally fast to align and warp) and not carrying anything of value then you're correct in that you don't need to pay too much attention while traveling. However if you're carrying valuables I'd recommend against AFK travelling, even in High Security, as players have figured out just what it takes to pop most ships off a gate (even freighters if it's a juicy enough target). CONCORD gets the gankers, ganker alts get the freighter loot Tears ensue.
4. Chat AKF - just depends on the group and what else is going on. But this is sometimes true.
I alt-tab while playing EVE, but it is almost always between accounts or a browser to search for Intel but I am rarely ever AFK in EVE doing something else but that is because I live in a wormhole and hunting travellers can be exciting (note - we also get hunted in our WH from time to time as well - nature of the beast).
They should just give *EvE* it's own award called "EvE is so awesome, it doesn't need an award" award, and omit it from everything else, as it's getting ridiculous now.
I agree.
I think that MMORPG editors should do yearly awards that aren't based on 'which company can convince more of it's voters to go to the site and vote' and more on some tangible score.
I can't really see any professional awarding EvE Game of the Year, and hoping to maintain an iota of credibility. Fans being pushed in droves to vote? ya, I can see that.
Anyway, I'd be interested in an Award Based on the evaluations of the Profesional Writers of MMORPG, and not just a popularity contest.
Look...how can you NOT like Eve...It's not like it's not exciting, is it? It's not like you sit looking at a convoluted UI, accessing your treasure of spreadsheets, spending your 15 bucks per month reading a book in front of your pc screen while mining, traveling from sector to sector, only to lose your ship (insured, thank GOD!) to hungry pirates, is it? Oh, wait. That IS how it is. Remember, anything can happen to you. And, we all know that we like nothing better than to sit with our other nerdy friends in front of pc and feel like we're in the *real* world (only futuristic) and get scammed (several article on this, but seems rare) by some greedy, player-owned corporations (but, hey...it's cool to be scammed in a game using in-game currency, right?). I mean, this is what FUN is, right? No? Well, then it must be the epic space battles that one can partake in....after 6 mos of grinding all the previous shit I just mentioned. Eve is very unique, but not for most players, imo. If the subscription fee were AT MOST $9-$10, then I MIGHT consider it...again...for about 5 nights. The game is very beautiful, though, being probably the most beautiful space game ever. CCP is considered to be one of the most-appreciated developers in the market today by the community, and it's hard to argue with that.
I just don't see how a game that has less than 500k subs (is that a close assessment of how many there are? I thought it was around 300k, but it must be more now due to the awards it keeps winning) is able to take the winning spot here.
To all you Eve players, my hat goes off to ya. It's not often that one finds a good game that they like, that has good developers, and a pretty decent/helpful community. However, it sure isn't for the weak-willed. I actually prefer something along the lines of the original Pre-CE/Pre-NGE Star Wars: Galaxies to this type of game, but that's just me. Anyway, below is a shared video that I thought pretty much sums up MY Eve Online Experience. You may be different, but this was what I took away from it...along with my best friend's summation...and, my wife's...and, hmm...well, everyone I know that ever tried Eve to be honest.
Anyway, here's the video. And, remember, this post is all in good fun and sharing of opinion. You may disagree, but remember, to me my opinion is *right*. :P
How can you like games like WoW, SWToR (I picked that up, a few friends made me do it. Played for a month and "finished" it.) Rift etc? What is it? Oh level to the level cap, travel a world where you go from A to B because your quest journal tells you to. Be blocked by invisible walls, not being able to climb that mountain. You could travel the world but it would make no sense and be a waste of time.
When you hit the level cap (the levels before cap are the tutorial on how to play your class) after doing basically the same quest over and over (kill 10x, get y, return to base) you are ready to do the real fun stuff: repeat group and raid instances over and over again until you are decked out in the highest tier of gear. Use that to do... ummm kill stuff i guess? And wait for the next bexpansion because THEN you will be able to level up 5 more levels, maybe ten. Oh but your awesome purple gear will be worse then green stuff one level higher.
But don't worry, there is another raid treadmill to wander and gather all that shiny stuff that will be obsol... i mean that will make you awsome uber. You can stand in front of the hub zone and let newbies look at your gear in awe and admire you for having wasted so many years doing the same stuff over and over again? I mean you DO HAVE stamina, thats for sure. You also have a nail in your brain tho AND you feel no pain. I guess that can be positive character attributes too.
speaking of Hub zones. You don't even have to move your feet to get to your raid zones. Isn't that awesome? The whole world around you is useless, as i pointed out before. You may call it the tutorial zone for learning how to play your class. Anyway, all you have to do is click a button and wheeeee, you're there. Kill boss loot equip gate. THAT is real power. And fun.
I could go on and on and on about your usual WoW clone, but its tiresome, just like that kind of MMO. It was fun 10 years ago, but now its not, its repetive, boring blablabla. A trained monkey can do it. THAT is why EVE won, ladies and gentlemen.
It's true, many fans of EVE frequent these forums and we have boosted it to the top year after year.
In my case, not because I love it that much, but the other choices all are bad since they are almost always standard theme park MMO's, which I'm always going to vote against.
Who knows, if GW2 turns out to be as good as touted, I'll vote for it.
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hahaha look at all anti EVE people boohoo. too bad for you eve online is and will stay on top as long the server keeps spinning. despite us bitching and critisising ccp in game forums you wont find more loyal bunch of gamers to one game anywhere, but whatever you think that we would vote eve only because of loyalty is not the whole story. its best and most unique mmo i have played and i have played many.
7 years as eve player now behind i can say year 2011 didnt start well for the game but later part of year saved it and turned numbers to rise and future to look bright.
@Vegetto agree, looks like fanbois invasion destroyed common sense. Oh well it's mmorpg.com
Not hating EVE at all but tbh Rift was out in 2011 did nearly everything right and EVE released long ago and created a lot of controversy with their leaks and didn't do anything special in 2011 so RIFT should be considered the best mmo of 2011 imo.
And Rift just made it with 0.5% before SWTOR as the most innovative mmo. Seriously RIFT had many more core mmo functionalities and new cool ones like invasions and rifts invading a zone and killing npcs and fighting one another.
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( Gee , sounds like Eve and the Incursions Expansion ) - just my humble opinion . . . . .
It would appear the Eve lovers are a bit fanatical and set up voting campaings / bots each year. Nothing against the game, but it definitely lost it's relativity a long time ago.
You are so completely wrong I don't even know where to start. We aren't a bunch of dishonest pricks voting for our game just for the sake of voting for our game, nor do we make fake bots to pad up the numbers. We voted for Eve because it has more content then the next 6 "best" MMOs put together, even the newly created ones that have a lot of hype. The other games JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONTENT AND COMPLEXITY! They have no challenge. They have nothing new enough to be noteworthy. Eve, on the other hand, expansion after expansion, adds a significant chunk of new stuff each time...and it's bound to do so again soon once Dust 514 is released.
Stop calling us Eve fanbois liars and fakes. We aren't, simply because we have no need to be. Eve Online is simply that awesome.
Eve is the only FULLY FLESHED mmorpg production game that i know where you can play for free. No need to spend irl dollars every month to pay for your subscription. Pretty much anyone can collect junk that other players leave on the battlefields and exchange it for timecards without using one cent.
Good to see that MMO community makes right choices. At least in best MMO and most anticipated department. RIFT as most innovative looks comical though
Yeah Im still trying to figure out the real innovation of Rift. Letting you choose between 8 talent trees instead of 3 and having 5 specs instead of 2 isnt innovation. Rifts and invasions arent an innovation. Public group system I think was a first though. Oh and they certainly innovated the process of merging servers by saying its 'converting to trial'.
Then again, what other game deserved to win? None.
No...The public quest system came from Warhammer, where many of RIft's devs came from also.....RIft had absolutely zero innovation....If ever there was a cut and paste MMO its Rift......Even some of the tradeskills were a direct ripoff from WoW and the collection system a direct ripoff from EQ2.....It just shows that you can steal other games ideas and alot of people won't even know if they didn't play that game.....Most gamers are sheep and just go where everyone else goes and these type of awards reflect that.
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I voted for Eve simply because it's the best MMO there is, at this present time. Nothing else comes close.
Gotta love the sour grapes from the losers. EVE Online players didn't vote because they have nothing better to do; they voted because they love EVE.
First off LOL is in no shape or form a MMO, just a FPS with some strategy thrown in.
Secondly, yeah there are a lot of Eve detractors, but then show me one other decent MMO that offers any semblence of a challenge. I can't think of any. Despite all it's problems Eve still offers a myriad of paths to develop you avatar which none of the shoe horn MMO's even come close to.
Just quick example why EVE is a game of the year:
1380 players in same location, actively fighting. Nice, eh? And this is purely player driven event. CCP do not tell you who, when or how you should fight. They gave you ship hulls, modules for them and sandbox to fly that ships in.
As sidenote: they gave tools, but better tool itself does not make you winner in eve. Your actions, teamwork and coordination are.
You can lose your ship or your whole fleet can be taken down if you fail. And that is not merely inconvenience: all destroyed ships are completely lost, they will not respawn. Risk is real.
Now imagine similar news for any other game? "Big dungeon raid currently going on, one damage dealer down, priest managed to escape. Party's stuff damaged by one point."
ppl pls calm down ... next year EVE will not be the GOTY again.
it will be DUST 514
Good to see that MMO community makes right choices. At least in best MMO and most anticipated department. RIFT as most innovative looks comical though
Name another MMO that has been going for almost a decade? No level caps and the drama and gameplay is mainly player driven. Free updates and can pay for the game with ingame money.
Eve will outlast Rift and ever other MMO that is released in the upcoming decade.
Maybe MMORPG.com should just award Eve the Game of the decade award, lifetime acheivement etc and bar it from competing against all the flashy new games that will burn out in 2 years.
Yeah Im still trying to figure out the real innovation of Rift. Letting you choose between 8 talent trees instead of 3 and having 5 specs instead of 2 isnt innovation. Rifts and invasions arent an innovation. Public group system I think was a first though. Oh and they certainly innovated the process of merging servers by saying its 'converting to trial'.
Then again, what other game deserved to win? None.
Numbered those for you - easier to repond.
1. Most miners (who are not bots
) are dual boxing. Mining on one and doing something else moar productive on another account (scouting, PVP, scanning, etc)
2. Trading - see above
3. Travelling - If you're traveling in a shuttle (or something else equally fast to align and warp) and not carrying anything of value then you're correct in that you don't need to pay too much attention while traveling. However if you're carrying valuables I'd recommend against AFK travelling, even in High Security, as players have figured out just what it takes to pop most ships off a gate (even freighters if it's a juicy enough target). CONCORD gets the gankers, ganker alts get the freighter loot Tears ensue.
4. Chat AKF - just depends on the group and what else is going on. But this is sometimes true.
I alt-tab while playing EVE, but it is almost always between accounts or a browser to search for Intel but I am rarely ever AFK in EVE doing something else but that is because I live in a wormhole and hunting travellers can be exciting (note - we also get hunted in our WH from time to time as well - nature of the beast).
I agree.
I think that MMORPG editors should do yearly awards that aren't based on 'which company can convince more of it's voters to go to the site and vote' and more on some tangible score.
I can't really see any professional awarding EvE Game of the Year, and hoping to maintain an iota of credibility. Fans being pushed in droves to vote? ya, I can see that.
Anyway, I'd be interested in an Award Based on the evaluations of the Profesional Writers of MMORPG, and not just a popularity contest.
Thank you,
zWolf -out.
Look...how can you NOT like Eve...It's not like it's not exciting, is it? It's not like you sit looking at a convoluted UI, accessing your treasure of spreadsheets, spending your 15 bucks per month reading a book in front of your pc screen while mining, traveling from sector to sector, only to lose your ship (insured, thank GOD!) to hungry pirates, is it? Oh, wait. That IS how it is. Remember, anything can happen to you. And, we all know that we like nothing better than to sit with our other nerdy friends in front of pc and feel like we're in the *real* world (only futuristic) and get scammed (several article on this, but seems rare) by some greedy, player-owned corporations (but, hey...it's cool to be scammed in a game using in-game currency, right?). I mean, this is what FUN is, right? No? Well, then it must be the epic space battles that one can partake in....after 6 mos of grinding all the previous shit I just mentioned. Eve is very unique, but not for most players, imo. If the subscription fee were AT MOST $9-$10, then I MIGHT consider it...again...for about 5 nights. The game is very beautiful, though, being probably the most beautiful space game ever. CCP is considered to be one of the most-appreciated developers in the market today by the community, and it's hard to argue with that.
I just don't see how a game that has less than 500k subs (is that a close assessment of how many there are? I thought it was around 300k, but it must be more now due to the awards it keeps winning) is able to take the winning spot here.
To all you Eve players, my hat goes off to ya. It's not often that one finds a good game that they like, that has good developers, and a pretty decent/helpful community. However, it sure isn't for the weak-willed. I actually prefer something along the lines of the original Pre-CE/Pre-NGE Star Wars: Galaxies to this type of game, but that's just me. Anyway, below is a shared video that I thought pretty much sums up MY Eve Online Experience. You may be different, but this was what I took away from it...along with my best friend's summation...and, my wife's...and, hmm...well, everyone I know that ever tried Eve to be honest.
Anyway, here's the video. And, remember, this post is all in good fun and sharing of opinion. You may disagree, but remember, to me my opinion is *right*. :P
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How can you like games like WoW, SWToR (I picked that up, a few friends made me do it. Played for a month and "finished" it.) Rift etc? What is it? Oh level to the level cap, travel a world where you go from A to B because your quest journal tells you to. Be blocked by invisible walls, not being able to climb that mountain. You could travel the world but it would make no sense and be a waste of time.
When you hit the level cap (the levels before cap are the tutorial on how to play your class) after doing basically the same quest over and over (kill 10x, get y, return to base) you are ready to do the real fun stuff: repeat group and raid instances over and over again until you are decked out in the highest tier of gear. Use that to do... ummm kill stuff i guess? And wait for the next bexpansion because THEN you will be able to level up 5 more levels, maybe ten. Oh but your awesome purple gear will be worse then green stuff one level higher.
But don't worry, there is another raid treadmill to wander and gather all that shiny stuff that will be obsol... i mean that will make you awsome uber. You can stand in front of the hub zone and let newbies look at your gear in awe and admire you for having wasted so many years doing the same stuff over and over again? I mean you DO HAVE stamina, thats for sure. You also have a nail in your brain tho AND you feel no pain. I guess that can be positive character attributes too.
speaking of Hub zones. You don't even have to move your feet to get to your raid zones. Isn't that awesome? The whole world around you is useless, as i pointed out before. You may call it the tutorial zone for learning how to play your class. Anyway, all you have to do is click a button and wheeeee, you're there. Kill boss loot equip gate. THAT is real power. And fun.
I could go on and on and on about your usual WoW clone, but its tiresome, just like that kind of MMO. It was fun 10 years ago, but now its not, its repetive, boring blablabla. A trained monkey can do it. THAT is why EVE won, ladies and gentlemen.
It's true, many fans of EVE frequent these forums and we have boosted it to the top year after year.
In my case, not because I love it that much, but the other choices all are bad since they are almost always standard theme park MMO's, which I'm always going to vote against.
Who knows, if GW2 turns out to be as good as touted, I'll vote for it.
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Yea, I'm planning on getting into EvE when a good time arrives. I think my sleeper hit would be
Firefall.
GW2 definitely most anticipated!!! Really like all the ArenaNet articles and dev discussions let alone before the game is out to play. : )
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
hahaha look at all anti EVE people boohoo. too bad for you eve online is and will stay on top as long the server keeps spinning. despite us bitching and critisising ccp in game forums you wont find more loyal bunch of gamers to one game anywhere, but whatever you think that we would vote eve only because of loyalty is not the whole story. its best and most unique mmo i have played and i have played many.
7 years as eve player now behind i can say year 2011 didnt start well for the game but later part of year saved it and turned numbers to rise and future to look bright.
You are so completely wrong I don't even know where to start. We aren't a bunch of dishonest pricks voting for our game just for the sake of voting for our game, nor do we make fake bots to pad up the numbers. We voted for Eve because it has more content then the next 6 "best" MMOs put together, even the newly created ones that have a lot of hype. The other games JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONTENT AND COMPLEXITY! They have no challenge. They have nothing new enough to be noteworthy. Eve, on the other hand, expansion after expansion, adds a significant chunk of new stuff each time...and it's bound to do so again soon once Dust 514 is released.
Stop calling us Eve fanbois liars and fakes. We aren't, simply because we have no need to be. Eve Online is simply that awesome.
Where's the any key?
Eve is the only FULLY FLESHED mmorpg production game that i know where you can play for free. No need to spend irl dollars every month to pay for your subscription. Pretty much anyone can collect junk that other players leave on the battlefields and exchange it for timecards without using one cent.
I bet the 2012 choice award will be on TERA Online. i will kill my self if this epic MMORPG dont have any
No...The public quest system came from Warhammer, where many of RIft's devs came from also.....RIft had absolutely zero innovation....If ever there was a cut and paste MMO its Rift......Even some of the tradeskills were a direct ripoff from WoW and the collection system a direct ripoff from EQ2.....It just shows that you can steal other games ideas and alot of people won't even know if they didn't play that game.....Most gamers are sheep and just go where everyone else goes and these type of awards reflect that.