anybody that gets this title and continues their subsription is truly part of the ignorant cash cow herd that BW is milking. I can only imagine the EA execs sitting back in their leather chairs watching this pos raking in the $ and thinking "i had no idea there were this many suckers in the Star Wars galaxy"
The only reason this game is marginally popular is to give dumb Ars's the ability to weild different colored glow sticks / rifles / blasters / cannons, etc (ooooohhhh... based on light / dark side choices) at each other.
If you can't see this clearly spelled out with examination of their customer service and lame explanations of problems then you truly deserve to be bilked out of x$ per month.
Founders title.. LOL.. might as well have a sheep image posted above your head. C'mon we can do better then this!!!!!
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Yeah, and Wow is popular because of the McDonald's Disneyland design and now the pandas. Seriously.
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Sorry but I could care less about a meaningless title. You are truly free to spend your hard earned $ however you see fit but if you can't see the marketing spin behind this then you deserve to throw money down the drain.. lol.
We beat the hardmodes and a few nightmare modes. Im in full 136 with a few 140 pieces on I have Valour Rank 68. I'm bored. didn't resub tonight. It was a great storyline themepark game to play for a month, I feel like I got my moneys worth. Now I will just sit back and go back to playing Anarchy Online and a few single players when boredom strikes from reality. I'm sure the game will have a lot more to offer in a year or so, I'll likely try it again then.
That sent a red flag up for me. That statement alone is what I've heard for years in WoW guess VO's can't remove all of the themepark gear treadmill designs after all hehe. All in all i think it's kinda funny that they think that players will return for simply a title and nothing else. Why not throw a mount in there or something.
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Your of the mark, its more about their timing, 1 day from 1st lot of resubs. I wont be suprised and i'm sure many others wont be either, but I'm sure a lot of people cancelled their subs as they didnt want a recurring subscription, i'm also expecting a lot of players not returning due to the lack of pvp thats on offer, 3 warzones of which Huttball pops 8/10, Ilum is a joke, I'm on a pvp server and anytime I run into an enemy player they just run away, wtf is that about? PvP gear looks terrible, I could go on and thats not even touching on the pve or crafting side of things.
What can i say? I woke up this morning... after getting my Cup of Coffee and light up my Cigarette, i started Thunderbird. The Topic of the Mail was something like "get your Foundertitle" and i though "oh, thats nice. Getting a Title, cause i did the Preorder n stuff". But after reading the full Mail, i start laughing and deleted the Mail instantly ;-)
PS: I chanceled my Sub to SWToR allready 2 Weeks ago *evil grin*
The monty grab is standard operating proceedure for MMOs and such.. it's their timing that is off.
I get most people are renewing in the next few days, but they just let a game breaking... nah ... game KILLING patch destroy what little value PVP had in the game.
Had this not all happend in this time window, people would probably thing a silly title would be cool. But considering they were having such a mass amount of canceled subs flooding through they outright HID the cancel options in the account page,
(Looks like they removed the thread on the official forums about it.. ha)
Don't get me wrong, I was a supporter of the game, up until this morning, I still was. But Bioware screwed up. Bad. Real Bad. Not just on PVP, but they proved they don't have the balls to take action, or refuse to take responsibility for these screw ups.
There's a lot more wrong than just the massive PVP issue, which is what's getting all the attention right now.
I think it is just bad timeing, and bad taste. Then again, good on them for trying, but they'll need a lot more than a sh*tty "Founder" title to get a lot of people to resub to the game.
(And for the record, I did cancel today in protest, and again, I was a player and supporter of this game, had high hopes, but they continue to choose to ignore 15 years of MMO history in every dip-sh*t decision they make.)
Ya know.....boo hoo hoo.
The game is down once again to fix PVP. Something I dont give a damn about. There is multiple teams working on this game. PVP is one, along with the stuff the OP is complaining about, not to mention PVE content.
So your PVP is being fixed, along with various other things to add to the game. Titles being one such thing.
I tell ya though....rather than fixing PVP, I wish they would remove it. Hopefully if enough if ya ragequit, they will do exactly that.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
The monty grab is standard operating proceedure for MMOs and such.. it's their timing that is off.
I get most people are renewing in the next few days, but they just let a game breaking... nah ... game KILLING patch destroy what little value PVP had in the game.
Had this not all happend in this time window, people would probably thing a silly title would be cool. But considering they were having such a mass amount of canceled subs flooding through they outright HID the cancel options in the account page,
(Looks like they removed the thread on the official forums about it.. ha)
Don't get me wrong, I was a supporter of the game, up until this morning, I still was. But Bioware screwed up. Bad. Real Bad. Not just on PVP, but they proved they don't have the balls to take action, or refuse to take responsibility for these screw ups.
There's a lot more wrong than just the massive PVP issue, which is what's getting all the attention right now.
I think it is just bad timeing, and bad taste. Then again, good on them for trying, but they'll need a lot more than a sh*tty "Founder" title to get a lot of people to resub to the game.
(And for the record, I did cancel today in protest, and again, I was a player and supporter of this game, had high hopes, but they continue to choose to ignore 15 years of MMO history in every dip-sh*t decision they make.)
Ya know.....boo hoo hoo.
I tell ya though....rather than fixing PVP, I wish they would remove it. Hopefully if enough if ya ragequit, they will do exactly that.
That is also a dream of mine. Then they could stick to what SW is really about, ya know, THE STORY!
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The monty grab is standard operating proceedure for MMOs and such.. it's their timing that is off.
I get most people are renewing in the next few days, but they just let a game breaking... nah ... game KILLING patch destroy what little value PVP had in the game.
Had this not all happend in this time window, people would probably thing a silly title would be cool. But considering they were having such a mass amount of canceled subs flooding through they outright HID the cancel options in the account page,
(Looks like they removed the thread on the official forums about it.. ha)
Don't get me wrong, I was a supporter of the game, up until this morning, I still was. But Bioware screwed up. Bad. Real Bad. Not just on PVP, but they proved they don't have the balls to take action, or refuse to take responsibility for these screw ups.
There's a lot more wrong than just the massive PVP issue, which is what's getting all the attention right now.
I think it is just bad timeing, and bad taste. Then again, good on them for trying, but they'll need a lot more than a sh*tty "Founder" title to get a lot of people to resub to the game.
(And for the record, I did cancel today in protest, and again, I was a player and supporter of this game, had high hopes, but they continue to choose to ignore 15 years of MMO history in every dip-sh*t decision they make.)
Ya know.....boo hoo hoo.
I tell ya though....rather than fixing PVP, I wish they would remove it. Hopefully if enough if ya ragequit, they will do exactly that.
That is also a dream of mine. Then they could stick to what SW is really about, ya know, THE STORY!
I agree, admitting defeat in the PvP aspect of MMORPGs and instead focusing resources on what they know best, would probably be the best way to keep subscriptions.
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Sorry but I could care less about a meaningless title. You are truly free to spend your hard earned $ however you see fit but if you can't see the marketing spin behind this then you deserve to throw money down the drain.. lol.
If you didn't care you wouldn't want to waste the time to post about it.
If this works BW would be stupid not to do it. Business as usual. Furthermore, if someone is ready to pay 15 bucks for the sole reason of getting a title, then it is worth it to him. People are spending much more than this on nonsense like getting drunk every saterday evening. Go figure
Almost all mmos have been doing things like this, with veteran points and other useless trinkets (EQ2, AOC, Lotro, Wow, etc.....).
Then you have the people spending 100+ bucks on collector editions... many don't even care for the hard goods, they just want the ingame trinkets and titles. Who would want to spend their money on this?
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Proofs nothing, and btw, on my server, there soomany players, coming more and more everyday, so no i don't thinka lot left the game, only a few whiners
Those who just resub for fancy title DESERVE to lose this 15$ , same as people that buy 20$ mounts in cash shops.
Seriously people nowadays just don't value money anymore, they bitch at games having price of 60$ instead of 50$ ,but 10 minutes later they buy some item from cash shop for 15$ *sigh*
I hope current economic problems in west will learn at least few people that PLANNING , SAVING and NOT blowing out money is good thing.
Spending 15$ because of FEW LETTERS IN VIDEO GAME or FEW PIXELS IN VIDEO GAME is STUPID.
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
No, this was certainly planned long ago.
It's a well known fact that many players only start subbing a few month after launch to let things settle down. This is just an incentive to get some of them to sub within the next 2 months.
Other games had and still have veteran points and other useless things to keep people subbed. Some are giving titles to veterans.
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Proofs nothing, and btw, on my server, there soomany players, coming more and more everyday, so no i don't thinka lot left the game, only a few whiners
Lol, that's why hardly any server reach Very Heavy anymore... yet alone Full status?
Sorry, but on my server, even on the starter planet there is no longer more than 1 single instance up during Primetime, with no more than 50-60 people in it.
This server had massive queues just three weeks ago and was regularly full until 2 weeks ago, when the population started dwindling down.
For a hell lot of people this game did not live up to people's expectations!
Add to it the HighRes texture debacle, where Bioware basically called people liars and stupid!
Add now the recent Ilum / Valor gain debacle from yesterday ..... and you'll get the picture.
If everything was fin and peachy.... then the mods wouldn't have to be on a desperate Damage Control spree on the official forums! removing posts and topics left and right.
You only see this kind of damage control in MMO's that are loosing subs. Because MMO's that are doing fine have no reason to sensor their official forums.
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Proofs nothing, and btw, on my server, there soomany players, coming more and more everyday, so no i don't thinka lot left the game, only a few whiners
Lol, that's why hardly any server reach Very Heavy anymore... yet alone Full status?
Sorry, but on my server, even on the starter planet there is no longer more than 1 single instance up during Primetime, with no more than 50-60 people in it.
This server had massive queues just three weeks ago and was regularly full until 2 weeks ago, when the population started dwindling down.
For a hell lot of people this game did not live up to people's expectations!
Add to it the HighRes texture debacle, where Bioware basically called people liars and stupid!
Add now the recent Ilum / Valor gain debacle from yesterday ..... and you'll get the picture.
If everything was fin and peachy.... then the mods wouldn't have to be on a desperate Damage Control spree on the official forums! removing posts and topics left and right.
You only see this kind of damage control in MMO's that are loosing subs. Because MMO's that are doing fine have no reason to sensor their official forums.
don't know what game you've been playing, but my server reach heavy or full almost everyday.
and btw they are removing and closing topics , becous people like you whine whine and whine. The forums shoulden't be abused like that
Jesus, don't overreact... It's just a title for those who sub in the first few months, that's all there is to it... I'm off to bed, but I strongly recommend you don't waste more of your time with this.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Actually the only proof I see is you not being able to STFU about complaining with regards to TOR. We get it....you dont like it. Give it a rest already as the constant static is against the TOS of this site.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Sorry but I could care less about a meaningless title. You are truly free to spend your hard earned $ however you see fit but if you can't see the marketing spin behind this then you deserve to throw money down the drain.. lol.
If you didn't care you wouldn't want to waste the time to post about it.
If this works BW would be stupid not to do it. Business as usual. Furthermore, if someone is ready to pay 15 bucks for the sole reason of getting a title, then it is worth it to him. People are spending much more than this on nonsense like getting drunk every saterday evening. Go figure
Almost all mmos have been doing things like this, with veteran points and other useless trinkets (EQ2, AOC, Lotro, Wow, etc.....).
Then you have the people spending 100+ bucks on collector editions... many don't even care for the hard goods, they just want the ingame trinkets and titles. Who would want to spend their money on this?
Nothing new to see here.
uh.. i do care that's why i'm posting.. we can demand better!!! I'm sorry BigMango if it's sensi-poo time but I don't blame BW for the strategy they are taking but the point is that we as a gaming consumer base should expect more, not just take it as you put it "business as usual".
All I'm saying is it's clear as day based on the timing of this "Founders" email. If you continue to subscribe to this drivel then I feel sorry for you. You are truly part of the cash cow herd that EA is milking..
Those who just resub for fancy title DESERVE to lose this 15$ , same as people that buy 20$ mounts in cash shops.
Seriously people nowadays just don't value money anymore, they bitch at games having price of 60$ instead of 50$ ,but 10 minutes later they buy some item from cash shop for 15$ *sigh*
I hope current economic problems in west will learn at least few people that PLANNING , SAVING and NOT blowing out money is good thing.
Spending 15$ because of FEW LETTERS IN VIDEO GAME or FEW PIXELS IN VIDEO GAME is STUPID.
/rant end
i feel ya m8, but isnt it like that with all hobby's??
I love to ride my motorcycle around and it does cost me alot of money to keep it clean and smoothly running.
People always put money in their hobby's, why else do we work all day??
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"Survivor of the One Point One War" perhaps?
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.. what a joke indeed.
anybody that gets this title and continues their subsription is truly part of the ignorant cash cow herd that BW is milking. I can only imagine the EA execs sitting back in their leather chairs watching this pos raking in the $ and thinking "i had no idea there were this many suckers in the Star Wars galaxy"
The only reason this game is marginally popular is to give dumb Ars's the ability to weild different colored glow sticks / rifles / blasters / cannons, etc (ooooohhhh... based on light / dark side choices) at each other.
If you can't see this clearly spelled out with examination of their customer service and lame explanations of problems then you truly deserve to be bilked out of x$ per month.
Founders title.. LOL.. might as well have a sheep image posted above your head. C'mon we can do better then this!!!!!
Look how the haters are raging again because they'll be missing out on a title. And now those who will get the title are labelled as sheep and what else? Lmao. How can someone put so much emotions into a non-issue?
Yeah, and Wow is popular because of the McDonald's Disneyland design and now the pandas. Seriously.
Sorry but I could care less about a meaningless title. You are truly free to spend your hard earned $ however you see fit but if you can't see the marketing spin behind this then you deserve to throw money down the drain.. lol.
That sent a red flag up for me. That statement alone is what I've heard for years in WoW guess VO's can't remove all of the themepark gear treadmill designs after all hehe. All in all i think it's kinda funny that they think that players will return for simply a title and nothing else. Why not throw a mount in there or something.
Your of the mark, its more about their timing, 1 day from 1st lot of resubs. I wont be suprised and i'm sure many others wont be either, but I'm sure a lot of people cancelled their subs as they didnt want a recurring subscription, i'm also expecting a lot of players not returning due to the lack of pvp thats on offer, 3 warzones of which Huttball pops 8/10, Ilum is a joke, I'm on a pvp server and anytime I run into an enemy player they just run away, wtf is that about? PvP gear looks terrible, I could go on and thats not even touching on the pve or crafting side of things.
What can i say? I woke up this morning... after getting my Cup of Coffee and light up my Cigarette, i started Thunderbird. The Topic of the Mail was something like "get your Foundertitle" and i though "oh, thats nice. Getting a Title, cause i did the Preorder n stuff". But after reading the full Mail, i start laughing and deleted the Mail instantly ;-)
PS: I chanceled my Sub to SWToR allready 2 Weeks ago *evil grin*
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Ya know.....boo hoo hoo.
The game is down once again to fix PVP. Something I dont give a damn about. There is multiple teams working on this game. PVP is one, along with the stuff the OP is complaining about, not to mention PVE content.
So your PVP is being fixed, along with various other things to add to the game. Titles being one such thing.
I tell ya though....rather than fixing PVP, I wish they would remove it. Hopefully if enough if ya ragequit, they will do exactly that.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
lol yup.. what a joke.
That is also a dream of mine. Then they could stick to what SW is really about, ya know, THE STORY!
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I agree, admitting defeat in the PvP aspect of MMORPGs and instead focusing resources on what they know best, would probably be the best way to keep subscriptions.
If you didn't care you wouldn't want to waste the time to post about it.
If this works BW would be stupid not to do it. Business as usual. Furthermore, if someone is ready to pay 15 bucks for the sole reason of getting a title, then it is worth it to him. People are spending much more than this on nonsense like getting drunk every saterday evening. Go figure
Almost all mmos have been doing things like this, with veteran points and other useless trinkets (EQ2, AOC, Lotro, Wow, etc.....).
Then you have the people spending 100+ bucks on collector editions... many don't even care for the hard goods, they just want the ingame trinkets and titles. Who would want to spend their money on this?
Nothing new to see here.
Because other MMO's introduced these titles and didn't require you to subscribe to the game. You earned them by participating in Beta, pre-ordering the game and buying the Retail!
This email only proofs that a hell lot of people have ditched the game and not gonna subscribe, so they try to lure people to subsribe with a stupid title! lol.
Proofs nothing, and btw, on my server, there soomany players, coming more and more everyday, so no i don't thinka lot left the game, only a few whiners
i must admit to that.....no i would not resub for just a title if i didnt like the game.
I dont think anyone would resub just for a title tough...would they?
That is what I though too but I'm being told I am a stupid dipshit.
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You compulsive swtor complainers are really starting to become a caricature of yourself with this game.
Is there a secret contest or something like that ? The one who whines the most frequently wins 3 free monthes for a concurrent MMO ?
***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in *****
Those who just resub for fancy title DESERVE to lose this 15$ , same as people that buy 20$ mounts in cash shops.
Seriously people nowadays just don't value money anymore, they bitch at games having price of 60$ instead of 50$ ,but 10 minutes later they buy some item from cash shop for 15$ *sigh*
I hope current economic problems in west will learn at least few people that PLANNING , SAVING and NOT blowing out money is good thing.
Spending 15$ because of FEW LETTERS IN VIDEO GAME or FEW PIXELS IN VIDEO GAME is STUPID.
/rant end
No, this was certainly planned long ago.
It's a well known fact that many players only start subbing a few month after launch to let things settle down. This is just an incentive to get some of them to sub within the next 2 months.
Other games had and still have veteran points and other useless things to keep people subbed. Some are giving titles to veterans.
There's nothing new here.
I'm beginning to belive this... it's so bizar a human being can act like this... sooo immature
Lol, that's why hardly any server reach Very Heavy anymore... yet alone Full status?
Sorry, but on my server, even on the starter planet there is no longer more than 1 single instance up during Primetime, with no more than 50-60 people in it.
This server had massive queues just three weeks ago and was regularly full until 2 weeks ago, when the population started dwindling down.
For a hell lot of people this game did not live up to people's expectations!
Add to it the HighRes texture debacle, where Bioware basically called people liars and stupid!
Add now the recent Ilum / Valor gain debacle from yesterday ..... and you'll get the picture.
If everything was fin and peachy.... then the mods wouldn't have to be on a desperate Damage Control spree on the official forums! removing posts and topics left and right.
You only see this kind of damage control in MMO's that are loosing subs. Because MMO's that are doing fine have no reason to sensor their official forums.
don't know what game you've been playing, but my server reach heavy or full almost everyday.
and btw they are removing and closing topics , becous people like you whine whine and whine. The forums shoulden't be abused like that
Actually the only proof I see is you not being able to STFU about complaining with regards to TOR. We get it....you dont like it. Give it a rest already as the constant static is against the TOS of this site.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
uh.. i do care that's why i'm posting.. we can demand better!!! I'm sorry BigMango if it's sensi-poo time but I don't blame BW for the strategy they are taking but the point is that we as a gaming consumer base should expect more, not just take it as you put it "business as usual".
All I'm saying is it's clear as day based on the timing of this "Founders" email. If you continue to subscribe to this drivel then I feel sorry for you. You are truly part of the cash cow herd that EA is milking..
http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216719p1.html (haha this has nothing to do w/ my post but I just found it amusing).
i feel ya m8, but isnt it like that with all hobby's??
I love to ride my motorcycle around and it does cost me alot of money to keep it clean and smoothly running.
People always put money in their hobby's, why else do we work all day??