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what in my list of issues(posted couple posts up) is for lazy people? its just LAZY game design.. also many of the so called "lazy" features make the game more fun for many people.. dont see how dual spec in any shape or form is lazy all it does is allow you to enjoy your class more by having more options. Sorry but for me having options is more fun than having none.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
I was waiting for this. Took longer than I expected really for this to show up.
Least the other naysayers have a point that not many release with certain features at launch which is a point to a degree.
Your rationale? Really doesn't have any at all besides trying to bait folks.
Sure it will work though.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
"I found the game you signed up for"
So did I, and wasn't very happy with the findings..I got sick of feeding it and cleaning up after it so I released it back into the wild where I doubt it will survive very long on its own. At least it's not my problem anymore.
go?
lucasarts, marketing, voice actors, and the opening movie sequences(freaking amazing! would LOVE a CGI movie like this)
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
I was making a point for Subscription based MMO's in general, but if you want to get specific about what is 'broken' about SWTOR:
PvP is a Joke, Only 3 Warzone (horribly designed from a competative stand point), thenworld PvP where the 2 factions are just win-trading.
Bugs, and this is the major one which made me lose all confidence in Bioware as a MMO service Provider.
When there is such a simple and easily repeatable bug in the game which allowed players to cheat the system for an unlimited amount of cash (mailbox commendation bug), then youve effectively ruined the games economy because those players now have enough money to buy out the market and effectively dictate prices, thus making themselves even richer from their ill-gotten gains.
They have Quality Assurance and Game Testers for a reason. And that bug should have never seen the light of day... let alone the multitude of other bugs which were reported in Beta and werent fixed for Launch. Bugs which could have easily been fixed with a few lines of code.
Sorry, but im not paying for the dev's to take their time fixing major game-breaking bugs.
So i will do what I have always done, vote with my money... and my words.
It is my opinion that SWTOR is a Joke, I do not think it is even worth the box price for what it is right now. I'm not going to go on a vendetta to discredit the company but im sure as hell going to tell people what I think of it so they can avoid wasting their money.
"The problem with quotes from the Internet is that it's almost impossible to validate their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln
Exactly my sentiments! Thanks for putting them into words so I don't have to this late. /signed
So much opinion here. MANY people disagree with YOUR opinion of the game and what you dislike. Seriously, stop trying to stating your opinion and preferences as if they were a fact.
Not really. A lot of those things are fairly conventional, and can be in either a sandbox or WoW style game. Me, I prefer sandboxes/pvp games. Yet a lot of those things are good things (with the exception of animal mounts. That's where I draw the line lol)
Well if you understood the mechanics of builds you would know that the build that was released at launch would be an older build just fixed of bugs. Its what the company should say is going to be in the game at launch. It can be months old because they have to fix the majority of bugs. The coming soon isnt content that should of been in at launch as it would of made the launch content unplayable. It hasnt been fixed of the majority of bugs it hasnt been tested. GAMES NEED TO BE TESTED then they can release it. Get off Bioware Still say fuck off to EA though!
That's not the issue for anyone with a brain. The issue is that the game launched without features that are considered *standard* in the themepark MMO genre. Are you suggesting that every time a new game releases, for the rest of our lives, that we should expect to see standard feaures to be added over time? We know the game will change and evolve, but there is no excuse for releasing a new game with the most fundamental things missing or broken.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Why does EA get pass with SWTOR? They have been in dev for years, they didn't make there own engine, there team was full of experianced dev and there are a great number of case studies in how to make and not make a MMO. So again why is okay for them release basically a beta of a game and make you pay to dev it more?
Also sure I don't complain this much if I don't like the service at restruant or if I don't like phone company, well I would if I got charge full price for something I didn't dem finished. But the main release I and maybe others complain so much about SWTOR, is that we want to play a good MMO but we have been burned and/or bored by basically every MMO out there. We hopied that SWTOR would have been a great themepark MMO but it just isn't a match for WoW in it's prime, while at the same time not being different enough from the WoW clone temeplate to truily be unique. So we have no where to go but these fourms.
I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.
Woohoo! More standard MMO features in 6 months!
Guild banks, UI customization etc..
Good job! Oh wait..
Warfronts, dont make me laugh lol
Yet, they aren't required. Name an MMORPG that started with guild finder or dual spec.
I will believe that when I hear about it, and that it isn't total hooey like the rest of the buggy stuff. They are going to have to go a LONG way to get me and my mates/guild's $15.00 a month back (Including doing something about thier totally horrid CS)
Cheers
People are confusing the lack of "standard mmo features" with a broken game.....
There's nothing broken about SWTOR, YES YES, it has bugs... but name me one game that hasn't at launch... that's part of being an mmo. You get bugs, you fix bugs, you move on.
LFG tool is a convenience to some and a community breaker to others. If you can leave a group at will and requeue to get in another one, what's to stop you from being an asshat? No consequences.
UI customization, that fine, it would be nice to have, but the game is "Broken" if it doesn't have it?
Flying Mounts? Does anyone else think this is absurd in a Star Wars universe?
Pet classes? For those of you arguing we want standard mmo features... it's those same features that have completely ruined the genre... what was once a great journey to end game has become a fast food entertainment industry. Everything becomes a lobby game. Everyone comes into another mmo bringing their own expectations, if that game doesn't fit your SUBJECTIVE (opinion) therefor it's broken.
I have a lvl 43 Bounty Hunter Merc...
I queue and do Huttball.. i have a good time... but based on some on these forums.. it's broken.
I gather and craft using companions.....i love it... but i'm too dumb to see it's broken.
I listen to the voice overs and get fully imersed in the story. I actually want to do all the quests.. but i should follow the lead on these forums and say its overrated.
Just be honest with yourselves... everytime you go into another mmo, you want it to be the mmo you fell in love with the first time. You can't take a step back and judge the game on its own merits.
There are two things i get from reading these forums:
1. it's too much like WoW - there's no innovation!!!!!!!
2. It's not like wow enough - where are my addons! UI customization! LFD tool! Flying Mounts!!! RATED ARENAS!!!!!
I'll make a bet with anyone.... Stop reading the forums for two weeks completely and just play... You'll love the game....
Howmuch are you willing to bet?
No kidding.....Already did that, didn't work sadley.
Same, been there, done that, ain't going back. Actually gave it four weeks. SWTOR is the reason why I won't be buying TSW. As intriguing as it sounds I'm not going to throw away money again for a "hopeful" MMO. DDO, Neverwinter, and GW2 will be the MMOs that will have my attention now and various single player games. P2P MMOs I'm done with.
Right there with ya.
Im done with P2P as well now.
I'm playing singeplayer and co-op games to pass the time until the next game that will fill my Communtiy void.
And nowadays singeplayer games even have ongoing development with DLC's and patches to improve things... and they ship with everything they have advertised at least.
"The problem with quotes from the Internet is that it's almost impossible to validate their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln
Im not sure what you guys are all bent out of shape over.
Its a themepark. They said is was going to play like that. They didnt say it was going to be like SWG. They didnt say that every single choice you make would totally change the story, they said it would have an effect, and from what I saw some choices I made did have an effect. Yeah they are missing high-rez textures but how many of you came from games with worse graphics that this? Probably most of you besides the rift players.
Im not subbed anylonger mainly because Im more of a sandbox player and a friend talked me into buying it and I had fun while i was there. But theres only so much tab target-123 I can take (and no GW2 wont be my savior because of that, its also themepark).
Could there be more endgame? Sure there could. But if thats your only complaint Im sure they'll add more.
I think the only valid criticism is not having quality world pvp and separating the paths of sith vs republic and if high quality textures are that important then so be it.
No offense... but for one of those mythical "This will come out soon!" Deals that every single MMO has, this seeems rather lack luster. Might just be me but it just doesn't sound like all that much.
that doesnt cost 135 mil
voice actors? its not like I heard Tom Hanks doing the voices, they could have paid the voice actors 50$ each
Yeah, and before that he said the storyline had been in development for a year, so if it's not even finished then good luck getting new storyline content in the future. Looks like you're all going to be stuck with the same stories and easy made warzones for the next few years.