Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
Depends what you are after. My opinion is that you can get about 100-150h worth of value from it, but unless you can play that much in 1-2 month it's not worth it. It's bad as an mmo game and nothing worth spending time with if you are looking for a game to play for years. The value is leveling up a char, which is very fun for an MMO game. Most single player RPG games give alot better value though since they give a higher quality experience.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
Camp A : I love it! Buy it!
Camp B: Its crap!! Don't buy it!!
Answer to your question ? Get an account ( whichever way you can ) and try the game out yourself.
Get in a guild and you'll find a lot of cool things to do with heroics, flashpoints, Datacron hunts, PvP, crafting for mates, general questing etc...lots to see and explore in ToR!
Don't go into it expecting a real multiplayer/group oriented game.
Do pretend it is KOTOR online.
The stories are kind of bland the second time through so consider your alt choices, I would recommend 1 Repub and 1 Sith.. I can't see it last for more than a month or two though.. Some people are still having a blast though so it might just not been the game for me.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
according to your sig, you play wow. you will LOVE this game. enjoy.
IMO its a great co op or small group game to pass the time for a month or two. Or even as a single player KOTOR type game. If you really like star wars, enjoy BW type games ( story mode RPGs) and have a couple of friends to play with then it may be worth it.
If your looking for a MMO to kill alot of time with then take a pass. Sub par MMO features abound in this game. At 50 its more of a lobby game than anything. Either Raid or play the broken PvP in the game is pretty much all there is once you max level.
Its a nice journey to 50, especially with a few friends. After that its mediocre at best. A great game for real casual players IMO.
As with any game, do your research. Read up, watch gameplay videos, read the forums, etc. Unless you don't care about wasting money on a box fee on a game you know nothing of.
if you're ultra hardcore and expect a lot, don't buy it
I find SWTOR more enjoyable than WoW for one main reason: very well implemented features for casual players that don't want to commit to anything serious. Technically you can, but I would rather player a little here and there and it works so well for that. I can go through 5-10 quests a day and enjoy all of htem because they all have a cool story.
also other features let you meet people easier than WoW.
eg it takes me a minute to find a group of players that want to finish a group quest, which usually takes 5-10 mins. there are a few of these on every planet and they're loads of fun (Heroics)
being in a group is encouraged through Social Points, the more player you have and the more alike are you dialogue choices, the more points you accumulate. Social level lets you have cooler gear
same for light/dark points and levels
I loved KOTOR and this is definitely a great continuation.
PS I played in beta as a jedi and hated the game. it was bland, boring and uninspiring.
I then bought because I wanted to try it again and joined the empire, became a Bounty Hunter and loved every second of it.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
I have spent alot of time both on the offical forums and on these forums.. Reserching the game.. and Im going to give you an Obejetive responce..
The games main feture looks to be its Leveling system with voice overs..
So if you like watching long cut scenes, and enoy levling, and having conversations with Imaginary friends (companions) and you are a solo Orientated player this game is for you..
On the other hand if you are looking for a comunity and engaging endgame content, this game is not for you...
people are allready crying for server mergers, bug fixes and many other things..
If Im not being objective and I would give you advice as I would a friend.. I would say there are alot of other Free to play Options on the market right now that can give you as much "FUN" as SWTOR and you dont have to pay a dime to play them.. Star trek online and European version of AION being two of them... Pirates of the burning sea might be worth cheaking out also ( but it has a low population and is a really nich game)
You also have free generous trails of both RIFT and other games... and if you want something total diffrent, but this game is not for everyone try EvE... but as I said that game is not for everyone...
And if you want a single player experince BuY Skyrim or Dark Souls they are both much better in the story department and execution then SWTOR will ever be....
Don't buy man you get more if you buy a single player game like Skyrim, Witcher... anything really. My problems with the game were:
Bugs so mayn and disturbing that i got grey hair becouse of them
Medicore story not what i expected from a bw game
chuncky, at the begining one could call them broken controls/skill mechanics (totaly out of sync with the animations)
and the most important thing NO ENDGAME doesn't matter what you play pve (just same old flashpoints all day long and dailys) or pvp(3wz, broken planet open world, quest areas not overlaying no open world at lvling, broken dailys not counting kills) And only way to get the best pvp gear is these damn broken daily and weekly quests (and lucster based)
So unles you are a sick altoholic and can take the same shit this game woun't entertain you more then 1 month (semi-casual play)
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
Read all my past posts, all my warnings, every single one came true, i am a lord and people should have listened to me and saved themselves time and money, seriously every single prediction came true and i was flamed and banished from society, and the people in control whom treat this place like a private little tree fort club had their widdle feeling's hurt and sent me into the mountains but now they couldn't care less as they realized i was right... (yes I'm being facetious)
BUT!!!! WAIT
I didn't even listen to my own advice, bought the game and absolutely LOVE IT. I canceled about two weeks in but I'm most likely going to sub back up next month.
So my best advice is if you like any of Bioware's games, kotor, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and don't go into this thinking it's your new mmo home and treat it more of a place to be very well entertained for short periods of time over the next few years, buy it, and play it when you want some story driven game. it's actually rather good, and that's me not being facetious.
Don't buy man you get more if you buy a single player game like Skyrim, Witcher... anything really. My problems with the game were:
Bugs so mayn and disturbing that i got grey hair becouse of them
Medicore story not what i expected from a bw game
chuncky, at the begining one could call them broken controls/skill mechanics (totaly out of sync with the animations)
and the most important thing NO ENDGAME doesn't matter what you play pve (just same old flashpoints all day long and dailys) or pvp(3wz, broken planet open world, quest areas not overlaying no open world at lvling, broken dailys not counting kills) And only way to get the best pvp gear is these damn broken daily and weekly quests (and lucster based)
So unles you are a sick altoholic and can take the same shit this game woun't entertain you more then 1 month (semi-casual play)
Actually there is nothing you posted which can be argued as it's all true but... there is something about being in a single player game with others running around in it, feels more alive and less lonely.
I love single player games as much as i love mmo's and swtor to my amazement is a nice blend of both, not excelling in either ones strengths but blended together well enough to actually make it work.
It's a good game and worth the money. It has some bugs here and there and they are adding things (scaleable UI for example) that should have already been there at launch. I think they need a better QA department for when they deploy patches though, seems like they are always patching the patch. The game is enjoyable, just take your time and go through it. The stories are well worth it IMHO. Heck I am still leveling and only made it past 27 since I could not decide what class I wanted to play through Don't pay attention to a lot of the doom and gloom sayers on here.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
I have spent alot of time both on the offical forums and on these forums.. Reserching the game.. and Im going to give you an Obejetive responce..
The games main feture looks to be its Leveling system with voice overs..
So if you like watching long cut scenes, and enoy levling, and having conversations with Imaginary friends (companions) and you are a solo Orientated player this game is for you..
On the other hand if you are looking for a comunity and engaging endgame content, this game is not for you...
people are allready crying for server mergers, bug fixes and many other things..
If Im not being objective and I would give you advice as I would a friend.. I would say there are alot of other Free to play Options on the market right now that can give you as much "FUN" as SWTOR and you dont have to pay a dime to play them.. Star trek online and European version of AION being two of them... Pirates of the burning sea might be worth cheaking out also ( but it has a low population and is a really nich game)
You also have free generous trails of both RIFT and other games... and if you want something total diffrent, but this game is not for everyone try EvE... but as I said that game is not for everyone...
And if you want a single player experince BuY Skyrim or Dark Souls they are both much better in the story department and execution then SWTOR will ever be....
I hope your research is not just forums because if it is you are misinformed.
It's a good game and worth the money. It has some bugs here and there and they are adding things (scaleable UI for example) that should have already been there at launch. I think they need a better QA department for when they deploy patches though, seems like they are always patching the patch. The game is enjoyable, just take your time and go through it. The stories are well worth it IMHO. Heck I am still leveling and only made it past 27 since I could not decide what class I wanted to play through Don't pay attention to a lot of the doom and gloom sayers on here.
this pretty much ....
the game is good however the endgame needs work but that will come. i mean only the foolish/delusional go into a new game thinking there will be a fully fleshed out endgame.
I wont disagree completely with the people saying it is too much of a single player game. But that speaks to longevity and you are asking just about buying it. I don't think many objective people have felt they wasted their money. Me, I am concerned about end game and whether there is any point to having guilds or PvP, but I am certainly glad I bought it and have been enjoying it non stop.
whether GW2 or Dominus will steal me away, different question, and depends if they put dev tiime into something other than their (i.e. not my and my guildies) story, but worth the box price, worth the sub for a while definitely.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
Well I was in beta and I like the game , I still play . I have a great guild that I met in game a couple days after release, we do flash points together and pvp together most of us skip all the cutscences with space bar since we just want to shoot things.
-PVP is not the greatest but still fun for me .
- Story is really in depth but worth skipping after the first time through
- I find the flash points fun and engaging even after going through each one a zillion times
- leveling up can be done solo or in groups which is good on days you cant find a group or your guildies are in the middle of something when you log in .
This game is not for everyone but it will be around for a good long time . If you are curious about the game either buy it or wait for a trial to come out . The game isnt hard to level in it's on par with wow for leveling .
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
LOL. You go ahead and buy the game. Then come back and apologise.
best thing about the game is you can play it how you want to a degree. yes its a VERY soloable game however it does reward the hell out of you to play in a group and because of the companion system you are not forced to be either in a full group or solo.
(now this may not hold true at the endgame)
but while leveling my little group (3 people) have been able to clear just about every flashpoint (dungeon) heck we have been able to do it with 2 people and 2 companions.
I know the "old school" think you should be forced to group in order to make any sort of progress but thats just not a realtiy in MMOs anymore. in SWTOR you are given a great deal of incentive to group with others without being forced to do so.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
Do you like Bioware games? Did you like Dragon Age or mass effect 2?
If so then buy the game.
Do you play 8 hours a day, want a fleshed out pvp experience and aren't proactive in getting groups or don't belong to a guild but you must be in a group as much as possible?
Don't buy the game.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
The game is a lot of fun OP and I think you will enjoy it if you give it a shot. This forum is just a bad place to come for information about games since it is almost entirely filled with MMO burnouts who hate everything but sandbox games that don't exist. In other words, they hate on every game because they can't find any game they actually enjoy. It's quite sad...
Try the game and form your own opinion. It is definitely worth the price even if you don't end up subbing long term.
Whats the deal? what s with all the hate this game had more hype then a train at max speed. Where did it all go!?!?!? srsly let me know, Should i buy it or Nay!
Camp A : I love it! Buy it!
Camp B: Its crap!! Don't buy it!!
Answer to your question ? Get an account ( whichever way you can ) and try the game out yourself.
Ummmm
Camp A: Those who arn't disgruntled and don't come to these forums: I love it! Buy it!
Camp B: I want a sandbox even though I knew all along it wouldn't be one. I want this to be Guild Wars 2. Its crap. Don't buy it!!
The game is a lot of fun OP and I think you will enjoy it if you give it a shot. This forum is just a bad place to come for information about games since it is almost entirely filled with MMO burnouts who hate everything but sandbox games that don't exist. In other words, they hate on every game because they can't find any game they actually enjoy. It's quite sad...
Try the game and form your own opinion. It is definitely worth the price even if you don't end up subbing long term.
It's also full of upstarts who have never even played a MMO before WoW, and who have this misguided concept of what an MMO is even supposed to be in the first place. I think between the two of us that covers the spectrum.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
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Depends what you are after. My opinion is that you can get about 100-150h worth of value from it, but unless you can play that much in 1-2 month it's not worth it. It's bad as an mmo game and nothing worth spending time with if you are looking for a game to play for years. The value is leveling up a char, which is very fun for an MMO game. Most single player RPG games give alot better value though since they give a higher quality experience.
Go away come back in 6 months to a year maybe for an expansion. They have many features that need reworking entirely + extensive issues to sort out.
Camp A : I love it! Buy it!
Camp B: Its crap!! Don't buy it!!
Answer to your question ? Get an account ( whichever way you can ) and try the game out yourself.
Get in a guild and you'll find a lot of cool things to do with heroics, flashpoints, Datacron hunts, PvP, crafting for mates, general questing etc...lots to see and explore in ToR!
Go get it!
Don't go into it expecting awesome PvP.
Don't go into it expecting no bugs.
Don't go into it expecting a real multiplayer/group oriented game.
Do pretend it is KOTOR online.
The stories are kind of bland the second time through so consider your alt choices, I would recommend 1 Repub and 1 Sith.. I can't see it last for more than a month or two though.. Some people are still having a blast though so it might just not been the game for me.
according to your sig, you play wow. you will LOVE this game. enjoy.
IMO its a great co op or small group game to pass the time for a month or two. Or even as a single player KOTOR type game. If you really like star wars, enjoy BW type games ( story mode RPGs) and have a couple of friends to play with then it may be worth it.
If your looking for a MMO to kill alot of time with then take a pass. Sub par MMO features abound in this game. At 50 its more of a lobby game than anything. Either Raid or play the broken PvP in the game is pretty much all there is once you max level.
Its a nice journey to 50, especially with a few friends. After that its mediocre at best. A great game for real casual players IMO.
As with any game, do your research. Read up, watch gameplay videos, read the forums, etc. Unless you don't care about wasting money on a box fee on a game you know nothing of.
if you're ultra hardcore and expect a lot, don't buy it
I find SWTOR more enjoyable than WoW for one main reason: very well implemented features for casual players that don't want to commit to anything serious. Technically you can, but I would rather player a little here and there and it works so well for that. I can go through 5-10 quests a day and enjoy all of htem because they all have a cool story.
also other features let you meet people easier than WoW.
eg it takes me a minute to find a group of players that want to finish a group quest, which usually takes 5-10 mins. there are a few of these on every planet and they're loads of fun (Heroics)
being in a group is encouraged through Social Points, the more player you have and the more alike are you dialogue choices, the more points you accumulate. Social level lets you have cooler gear
same for light/dark points and levels
I loved KOTOR and this is definitely a great continuation.
PS I played in beta as a jedi and hated the game. it was bland, boring and uninspiring.
I then bought because I wanted to try it again and joined the empire, became a Bounty Hunter and loved every second of it.
I review lots of indie games and MMORPGs
I have spent alot of time both on the offical forums and on these forums.. Reserching the game.. and Im going to give you an Obejetive responce..
The games main feture looks to be its Leveling system with voice overs..
So if you like watching long cut scenes, and enoy levling, and having conversations with Imaginary friends (companions) and you are a solo Orientated player this game is for you..
On the other hand if you are looking for a comunity and engaging endgame content, this game is not for you...
people are allready crying for server mergers, bug fixes and many other things..
If Im not being objective and I would give you advice as I would a friend.. I would say there are alot of other Free to play Options on the market right now that can give you as much "FUN" as SWTOR and you dont have to pay a dime to play them.. Star trek online and European version of AION being two of them... Pirates of the burning sea might be worth cheaking out also ( but it has a low population and is a really nich game)
You also have free generous trails of both RIFT and other games... and if you want something total diffrent, but this game is not for everyone try EvE... but as I said that game is not for everyone...
And if you want a single player experince BuY Skyrim or Dark Souls they are both much better in the story department and execution then SWTOR will ever be....
Don't buy man you get more if you buy a single player game like Skyrim, Witcher... anything really. My problems with the game were:
Bugs so mayn and disturbing that i got grey hair becouse of them
Medicore story not what i expected from a bw game
chuncky, at the begining one could call them broken controls/skill mechanics (totaly out of sync with the animations)
and the most important thing NO ENDGAME doesn't matter what you play pve (just same old flashpoints all day long and dailys) or pvp(3wz, broken planet open world, quest areas not overlaying no open world at lvling, broken dailys not counting kills) And only way to get the best pvp gear is these damn broken daily and weekly quests (and lucster based)
So unles you are a sick altoholic and can take the same shit this game woun't entertain you more then 1 month (semi-casual play)
Just wait fot it to go F2P in 6 months - 1 year.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Read all my past posts, all my warnings, every single one came true, i am a lord and people should have listened to me and saved themselves time and money, seriously every single prediction came true and i was flamed and banished from society, and the people in control whom treat this place like a private little tree fort club had their widdle feeling's hurt and sent me into the mountains but now they couldn't care less as they realized i was right... (yes I'm being facetious)
BUT!!!! WAIT
I didn't even listen to my own advice, bought the game and absolutely LOVE IT. I canceled about two weeks in but I'm most likely going to sub back up next month.
So my best advice is if you like any of Bioware's games, kotor, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and don't go into this thinking it's your new mmo home and treat it more of a place to be very well entertained for short periods of time over the next few years, buy it, and play it when you want some story driven game. it's actually rather good, and that's me not being facetious.
Actually there is nothing you posted which can be argued as it's all true but... there is something about being in a single player game with others running around in it, feels more alive and less lonely.
I love single player games as much as i love mmo's and swtor to my amazement is a nice blend of both, not excelling in either ones strengths but blended together well enough to actually make it work.
It's a good game and worth the money. It has some bugs here and there and they are adding things (scaleable UI for example) that should have already been there at launch. I think they need a better QA department for when they deploy patches though, seems like they are always patching the patch. The game is enjoyable, just take your time and go through it. The stories are well worth it IMHO. Heck I am still leveling and only made it past 27 since I could not decide what class I wanted to play through Don't pay attention to a lot of the doom and gloom sayers on here.
In Bioware we trust!
I hope your research is not just forums because if it is you are misinformed.
In Bioware we trust!
this pretty much ....
the game is good however the endgame needs work but that will come. i mean only the foolish/delusional go into a new game thinking there will be a fully fleshed out endgame.
I wont disagree completely with the people saying it is too much of a single player game. But that speaks to longevity and you are asking just about buying it. I don't think many objective people have felt they wasted their money. Me, I am concerned about end game and whether there is any point to having guilds or PvP, but I am certainly glad I bought it and have been enjoying it non stop.
whether GW2 or Dominus will steal me away, different question, and depends if they put dev tiime into something other than their (i.e. not my and my guildies) story, but worth the box price, worth the sub for a while definitely.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
Well I was in beta and I like the game , I still play . I have a great guild that I met in game a couple days after release, we do flash points together and pvp together most of us skip all the cutscences with space bar since we just want to shoot things.
-PVP is not the greatest but still fun for me .
- Story is really in depth but worth skipping after the first time through
- I find the flash points fun and engaging even after going through each one a zillion times
- leveling up can be done solo or in groups which is good on days you cant find a group or your guildies are in the middle of something when you log in .
This game is not for everyone but it will be around for a good long time . If you are curious about the game either buy it or wait for a trial to come out . The game isnt hard to level in it's on par with wow for leveling .
LOL. You go ahead and buy the game. Then come back and apologise.
best thing about the game is you can play it how you want to a degree. yes its a VERY soloable game however it does reward the hell out of you to play in a group and because of the companion system you are not forced to be either in a full group or solo.
(now this may not hold true at the endgame)
but while leveling my little group (3 people) have been able to clear just about every flashpoint (dungeon) heck we have been able to do it with 2 people and 2 companions.
I know the "old school" think you should be forced to group in order to make any sort of progress but thats just not a realtiy in MMOs anymore. in SWTOR you are given a great deal of incentive to group with others without being forced to do so.
Do you like Bioware games? Did you like Dragon Age or mass effect 2?
If so then buy the game.
Do you play 8 hours a day, want a fleshed out pvp experience and aren't proactive in getting groups or don't belong to a guild but you must be in a group as much as possible?
Don't buy the game.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
The game is a lot of fun OP and I think you will enjoy it if you give it a shot. This forum is just a bad place to come for information about games since it is almost entirely filled with MMO burnouts who hate everything but sandbox games that don't exist. In other words, they hate on every game because they can't find any game they actually enjoy. It's quite sad...
Try the game and form your own opinion. It is definitely worth the price even if you don't end up subbing long term.
Ummmm
Camp A: Those who arn't disgruntled and don't come to these forums: I love it! Buy it!
Camp B: I want a sandbox even though I knew all along it wouldn't be one. I want this to be Guild Wars 2. Its crap. Don't buy it!!
There Is Always Hope!
It's also full of upstarts who have never even played a MMO before WoW, and who have this misguided concept of what an MMO is even supposed to be in the first place. I think between the two of us that covers the spectrum.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"