The BAM's and any encounter really remind of how I used to play Vanguard even though the ENTIRE combat system is completely different. Given enough time, patience, knowledge, skill and that you can actually land decent hits, almost anything is soloable. It's just not terribly effecient and a huge loss of time if you screw up after getting its health down quite a bit. Just because something can be done by one person instead of a needing several people hardly proves it's 'easy'
I thought TERA was great. This inverse-enjoyment theory of mine is starting to gain some weight. AIon does great in the East, bombs in the west. So far TERA does poorly in the east and seems like people are loving it in the west.
Make no mistake just by looking at it its a eastern MMO, but I think its fair to say its the most 'western' style MMO to come out of the East yet. the fact that the first 10-20 levels aren't just a PvE tutorial before they start shunting you into PvP with little to no alternative speaks to this.
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
I guess you don't understand the concept of this game, its not WoW or Rift or Aion. You can dodge, you can time attacks, you can master monsters AI. You could dodge perfectly or block perfectly and never get hit once.
If you're good enough you can solo ANYTHING, that doesn't mean it's easy.
I'll get hit by every boss in a WoW instance and theres nothing I can do about it, because I CAN NOT DODGE OR BLOCK. That is why it seems retarded to you that someone can solo a boss, but in reality, it's completely possible no matter how hard they make it, the person will just get better and practice until he can. The same can't be said for tab target games...
WEll said, just cause it takes 25 people to kill a boss in wow does not make it hard, just means you need to kill said boss with 25 people, but you can still do it with no skill required.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
If it's only 1 person ever 100 that can do it though, is it still considered easy? Or just merely doable?
Exactly, It's not like everyone can or will be able to solo one. Given time and practice most players will be able too at some point. But one thing is for sure about Tera, it will seperate the good players from the bad players based on skill of the player and not gear of the character. Sure gear will matter but even with a fully geared player you can still see the lack of skill being used.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
I guess you don't understand the concept of this game, its not WoW or Rift or Aion. You can dodge, you can time attacks, you can master monsters AI. You could dodge perfectly or block perfectly and never get hit once.
If you're good enough you can solo ANYTHING, that doesn't mean it's easy.
I'll get hit by every boss in a WoW instance and theres nothing I can do about it, because I CAN NOT DODGE OR BLOCK. That is why it seems retarded to you that someone can solo a boss, but in reality, it's completely possible no matter how hard they make it, the person will just get better and practice until he can. The same can't be said for tab target games...
Ok, Ok I should not have used WoW clone, I didnt mean it in a Raid sense, but a linear sense or themepark. I guess I should of explained that. I pvp, never raided, so I dont know about those mechanics. I'm just thinking about general pve mechanics,
But, if what you say is true then it sounds ok. Because I'm sure that I will have to pve my arse off so I can pvp, and it seems to me, with those mechanics, that EVERYONE will be hunting these 'soloable' bosses.
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
I get the feeling that you may not be the 1 in 100 that can solo or even duo bosses. I'm not sure why I get that feeling, I just do.
It's harder than you can imagine. Literally. You're stuck in WoW thinking and I do not believe you can imagine how something can be difficult if it doesn't require a full raid.
that's a little unfair, youre assuming that just because something is soloable, that it is easy.
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
I get the feeling that you may not be the 1 in 100 that can solo or even duo bosses. I'm not sure why I get that feeling, I just do.
It's harder than you can imagine. Literally. You're stuck in WoW thinking and I do not believe you can imagine how something can be difficult if it doesn't require a full raid.
This is why I usually dont post here, the mentality sometimes really amazes me!
I am not a WoW player, or a Raider, and I was talking about pve, not raids. My head is definitly not in WoW, it's much more into UO, DAOC, SWG, and EVE ( currently playing eve).
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I can't wait for the next one. Spent the last two hours of CBT1 doing deathmatches with guidlies and had a great time.
I was really hyped to play this game and it still exceeded my expectations.
Just not worth my time anymore.
dissapointed they still didn't fix ffffffff crash so no real play time for me (max was like 3min before crash) and no community fix worked
will see if they manage to do anything about it in later betas
If it's a world boss that can be soloed, then yeah...it is easy. World bosses should not be soloed.
If it's only 1 person ever 100 that can do it though, is it still considered easy? Or just merely doable?
The BAM's and any encounter really remind of how I used to play Vanguard even though the ENTIRE combat system is completely different. Given enough time, patience, knowledge, skill and that you can actually land decent hits, almost anything is soloable. It's just not terribly effecient and a huge loss of time if you screw up after getting its health down quite a bit. Just because something can be done by one person instead of a needing several people hardly proves it's 'easy'
I thought TERA was great. This inverse-enjoyment theory of mine is starting to gain some weight. AIon does great in the East, bombs in the west. So far TERA does poorly in the east and seems like people are loving it in the west.
Make no mistake just by looking at it its a eastern MMO, but I think its fair to say its the most 'western' style MMO to come out of the East yet. the fact that the first 10-20 levels aren't just a PvE tutorial before they start shunting you into PvP with little to no alternative speaks to this.
There is hundreds of world bosses and theres one almost every level, they are not meant to be a raid boss. I literally watched Arakia kill 6 people by iteslf. Whereas I also saw someone solo it and myself was max only able to two man it. I tried my best to solo but only managed to take it to 30% health left before dying and I was very cautious and knew the AI well(an enraged arakia is too fast for me...), I had solo'd all the other BAMs besides Lanok(another world boss) or fimbrilisks but still couldn't manage.
If you're the same level as a BAM or worldboss it will take you 5-15 minutes to kill it and one or two mistakes will be all you can make, that's hardly classified as easy. Arakia enraged jump hits me for 40-60%, that's not very forgiving.
No, it's completly fair to call it easy mode, bosses should never be soloed, the reasons are obvious. But, I dont recall anyone saying that thier were bosses for each level, that kinda changes things, a little.
It still seems to easy though, if me and a friend can frag the boss, then what can we expect from thier minions? Not much, if you want the game to make sense.
I'm still going to watch this game, then gauge the response after release.
I guess you don't understand the concept of this game, its not WoW or Rift or Aion. You can dodge, you can time attacks, you can master monsters AI. You could dodge perfectly or block perfectly and never get hit once.
If you're good enough you can solo ANYTHING, that doesn't mean it's easy.
I'll get hit by every boss in a WoW instance and theres nothing I can do about it, because I CAN NOT DODGE OR BLOCK. That is why it seems retarded to you that someone can solo a boss, but in reality, it's completely possible no matter how hard they make it, the person will just get better and practice until he can. The same can't be said for tab target games...
WEll said, just cause it takes 25 people to kill a boss in wow does not make it hard, just means you need to kill said boss with 25 people, but you can still do it with no skill required.
Exactly, It's not like everyone can or will be able to solo one. Given time and practice most players will be able too at some point. But one thing is for sure about Tera, it will seperate the good players from the bad players based on skill of the player and not gear of the character. Sure gear will matter but even with a fully geared player you can still see the lack of skill being used.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Ok, Ok I should not have used WoW clone, I didnt mean it in a Raid sense, but a linear sense or themepark. I guess I should of explained that. I pvp, never raided, so I dont know about those mechanics. I'm just thinking about general pve mechanics,
But, if what you say is true then it sounds ok. Because I'm sure that I will have to pve my arse off so I can pvp, and it seems to me, with those mechanics, that EVERYONE will be hunting these 'soloable' bosses.
I sure hope they respawn reallllly fast!
I get the feeling that you may not be the 1 in 100 that can solo or even duo bosses. I'm not sure why I get that feeling, I just do.
It's harder than you can imagine. Literally. You're stuck in WoW thinking and I do not believe you can imagine how something can be difficult if it doesn't require a full raid.
This is why I usually dont post here, the mentality sometimes really amazes me!
I am not a WoW player, or a Raider, and I was talking about pve, not raids. My head is definitly not in WoW, it's much more into UO, DAOC, SWG, and EVE ( currently playing eve).
So please, dont tell me what I can imagine lol