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F2P game GW2 surpasses 1 million beta sign ups.....

gw1228gw1228 Member UncommonPosts: 127

   Anyone want to predict how many boxes they will sell in their first year  I say 3 million.  GW1 has sold over 5 million accounts.

When this game comes out it's going to drag a lot of gamers from other MMO's where you pay monthly fees like SWTOR.

These greedy companies don't understand yet that a F2P model is the way too go.  Most new MMO's are testing the waters with Paying monthly fees but eventually they take the F2P route.....

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  • SagasaintSagasaint Member UncommonPosts: 466

    Im the only one that cringes when he sees "GW2" and "F2P" in the same sentence?

     

    hey OP, buddy, here is my "nothing", please remember to send me a working download link for GW2 and a valid CDKey, thank you very much

     

     

     

     

     

    long story short, B2P != F2P

  • SpectrumizedSpectrumized Member Posts: 48

    GW2 is B2P actually. F2P just makes for Free-to-lose gameplay and causes balancing issues. If a company doesn't let people who pay get an advantage, it is likely lower amounts of people will bother to buy anything and the game development speed and quality goes down.

    EDIT: I actually forgot to answer the real question. In the first year, I'd assume that GW2 gets at least 5 million box sales. Its B2P model makes it a good choice for casual and hardcore players.

  • revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

    Originally posted by Spectrumized

    GW2 is B2P actually. F2P just makes for Free-to-lose gameplay and causes balancing issues. If a company doesn't let people who pay get an advantage, it is likely lower amounts of people will bother to buy anything and the game development speed and quality goes down.

    Depends from game to game actually.

  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279

    yeah GW2 isnt F2P its B2P. B2P features alot of expasions to increase content instead of patches, though there are certian companies that do both for the sake of increased profit.

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  • IsawaIsawa Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    Boxes being sold for a f2p what? ;)
  • SpectrumizedSpectrumized Member Posts: 48

    Originally posted by revy66

    Originally posted by Spectrumized

    GW2 is B2P actually. F2P just makes for Free-to-lose gameplay and causes balancing issues. If a company doesn't let people who pay get an advantage, it is likely lower amounts of people will bother to buy anything and the game development speed and quality goes down.

    Depends from game to game actually.

    Every game I've played at least, but all of the F2Ps I've tried are asian grinders. I guess that could be why.

  • UnshraUnshra Member UncommonPosts: 381

    While I give a congratulations (and already did this morning on twitter) I will also add my text to the "Buy to Play ≠ Free to Play" posts.

     

    Now I'm off to pla... err test Risen 2 now that the download has finished. ^_^

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,988

    3 million sold, are you counting just US releases?

  • MagnetiaMagnetia Member UncommonPosts: 1,015

    Subscription free is a good clear term I feel.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Great news for a great dev team... and maybe some headaches.

    But yeah, title needs to be changed, it's not accurate.

  • FreeBooteRFreeBooteR Member Posts: 333

    OP should change title to B2P.

     

    I predict 6 million first year. =)

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  • OtomoxOtomox Member UncommonPosts: 303

    Since when is a b2p game with probably heav dlc content that gonna rip us even more off a f2p game? PLEASE

  • Flaming_MMOFlaming_MMO Member Posts: 137

    I signed up once, but I wonder how many people used multiple emails/indentities to sign up.  Probably enough to push that number under 1 million.

  • nomssnomss Member UncommonPosts: 1,468

    Originally posted by gw1228

       Anyone want to predict how many boxes they will sell in their first year  I say 3 million.  GW1 has sold over 5 million accounts.

    When this game comes out it's going to drag a lot of gamers from other MMO's where you pay monthly fees like SWTOR.

    These greedy companies don't understand yet that a F2P model is the way too go.  Most new MMO's are testing the waters with Paying monthly fees but eventually they take the F2P route.....

    GW2 is not F2P (Free to play), it is B2P (Buy to Play), meaning you have to buy the box. And I hope it does well too :)

  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279

    its better explained as. Buy the Box, then buy the expanison, then buy the expanison then buy the expansion.

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  • ZetsueiZetsuei Member UncommonPosts: 249

    Originally posted by Otomox

    Since when is a b2p game with probably heav dlc content that gonna rip us even more off a f2p game? PLEASE

    This is what I call a misguided person. They blindly state things that are fact to them, without anything to back them up. They think the game is horrible, while having not seen anything about it.

    To get more serious, are you for real? Guild Wars 1 had Campaigns and a Expansion. Yeah, they cost money, but guess what? They gave HUGE amounts of content. Probably more content than a full year subbed to a P2P game. And the whole time you're playing the game, you're not paying a cent. If you can't/won't spend some money on a game your playing and enjoying, I think its time to stop being a gamer.

    I seriously can't tell if this game is just getting trolled hard or if there really are this many uneducated people about the game spouting off nonsense for whatever reason.

  • b0bbyZb0bbyZ Member Posts: 46

    It's free.

     

    You just have to buy it.

  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279

    i honestly have no problem with the game but when people say things like "you just have to buy the game and then its free" i feel they need a correction. sure everything is one time payments but B2P isnt only having to pay once, its having to buy it and the expansions. the system works, dont get me wrong and they need to be able to release alot of content with those or else people wouldnt buy them. each expansion needs to be a full game worth of content. if its not then your buying DLC, and usualy those expansions are the same price as the original game. Still its a working buisness model and i have nothing against it.

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Member UncommonPosts: 804

    F2P, B2P, WTF, LOL.  Have you guys booted up GW1 lately?  I can't wait to see the rage quit from the GW2 fans when they finally figure out how Arenanet is going to milk this monster of a game. 

    They will have you "buy" the tail.  Ha!  but seriously.  You think you're going to get a game of this scope for just the price of the box?  Somebody will be paying the money.  Look at GW1,  right out of the box you can hit up the store and go buy every skill, unlock every equipment upgrade and whatever else.  I took a look at the store last night and cringed.  I thought "What's the point of even trying this game out again?" 

    It was pretty creepy.  I expect GW2 to be a killer product but I know there's going to be a catch at some point.  Wether it's that $9.99 "perk" that makes things so much easier, or endless amounts of "downloadable content" that will get ya for a few bucks here and there.

    It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

     

     

     

    Edit:  And don't get me wrong, I could give two shits about paying good money for a product.  I have bought, payed for, tried out hundreds of games over the years.  I'll drop $60 on a game and play it for 2 hours and never look at it again, the money I spent on gaming doesn't bother me.  But don't get all spoiled brat cranky when a lot of you fan boi's figure out that in a lot of ways there's going to be a subcription attached to this product.

  • LydeckLydeck Member Posts: 80

    Originally posted by b0bbyZ

    It's free.

     

    You just have to buy it.

    Dumb rationale.

    Every single console game is "F2P" then.

  • OtomoxOtomox Member UncommonPosts: 303

    Originally posted by Zetsuei

    Originally posted by Otomox

    Since when is a b2p game with probably heav dlc content that gonna rip us even more off a f2p game? PLEASE

    This is what I call a misguided person. They blindly state things that are fact to them, without anything to back them up. They think the game is horrible, while having not seen anything about it.

    To get more serious, are you for real? Guild Wars 1 had Campaigns and a Expansion. Yeah, they cost money, but guess what? They gave HUGE amounts of content. Probably more content than a full year subbed to a P2P game. And the whole time you're playing the game, you're not paying a cent. If you can't/won't spend some money on a game your playing and enjoying, I think its time to stop being a gamer.

    I seriously can't tell if this game is just getting trolled hard or if their really is this many uneducated people about the game spouting off nonsense for whatever reason.

    Sherlock this isnt gw 1. Gw 2 isnt a heavy instanced small game. GW2 is actually a real mmorpg. Do you really think they gonna make money with just b2p ,servers cost ton shit of money. Im just preparing u gw 2 fanboys for whats the next step and its gonna be DLC for mmorpgs,

  • Snaylor47Snaylor47 Member Posts: 962

    3.5 Million over all at the end of the day not counting expantions.

    I don't care about innovation I care about fun.

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Originally posted by loeslein

    F2P, B2P, WTF, LOL.  Have you guys booted up GW1 lately?  I can't wait to see the rage quit from the GW2 fans when they finally figure out how Arenanet is going to milk this monster of a game. 

    They will have you "buy" the tail.  Ha!  but seriously.  You think you're going to get a game of this scope for just the price of the box?  Somebody will be paying the money.  Look at GW1,  right out of the box you can hit up the store and go buy every skill, unlock every equipment upgrade and whatever else.  I took a look at the store last night and cringed.  I thought "What's the point of even trying this game out again?" 

    It was pretty creepy.  I expect GW2 to be a killer product but I know there's going to be a catch at some point.  Wether it's that $9.99 "perk" that makes things so much easier, or endless amounts of "downloadable content" that will get ya for a few bucks here and there.

    It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

    Your arrogance and ignorance is just astonishing. Have I played Guild Wars 1? Yes, I have and for me it is 10 times more fun than 99.99% of the MMOs on this website and it actually requires skill and it's not mindless grind pressing which requires you to press 2 buttons while watching TV.

    But you clearly know nothing about it. Can you please not comment on a game which you have clearly not played? Or did you just boot the demo? I doubt you even did that.

     


    Originally posted by b0bbyZ

    It's free.

     

    You just have to buy it.

    Lol? So games like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Diablo 3 etc. are free as well? Man, why have I been wasting all this money on games.

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  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    Originally posted by LadyNoh

    i honestly have no problem with the game but when people say things like "you just have to buy the game and then its free" i feel they need a correction. sure everything is one time payments but B2P isnt only having to pay once, its having to buy it and the expansions. the system works, dont get me wrong and they need to be able to release alot of content with those or else people wouldnt buy them. each expansion needs to be a full game worth of content. if its not then your buying DLC, and usualy those expansions are the same price as the original game. Still its a working buisness model and i have nothing against it.

    Welll You had to buy expansions with subscription based MMOs as well (EQ, WoW, AO, AoC). People keep forgetting abuout vanity stuff, and while many wll say things along the lines of "ROFL why should I spend 10$ for a new costume set???Get a life!!" look at Blizzard. Pricing their mounts at 25$ didn't stop millions of people from buying them and that's pretty much free money. 

    In the end, if You deliever product that people appriciate They will spend more money on it to support the studio while also gaining some nice fluff in-game.

  • BlackbrrdBlackbrrd Member Posts: 811

    Originally posted by Otomox

    Originally posted by Zetsuei


    Originally posted by Otomox

    Since when is a b2p game with probably heav dlc content that gonna rip us even more off a f2p game? PLEASE

    This is what I call a misguided person. They blindly state things that are fact to them, without anything to back them up. They think the game is horrible, while having not seen anything about it.

    To get more serious, are you for real? Guild Wars 1 had Campaigns and a Expansion. Yeah, they cost money, but guess what? They gave HUGE amounts of content. Probably more content than a full year subbed to a P2P game. And the whole time you're playing the game, you're not paying a cent. If you can't/won't spend some money on a game your playing and enjoying, I think its time to stop being a gamer.

    I seriously can't tell if this game is just getting trolled hard or if their really is this many uneducated people about the game spouting off nonsense for whatever reason.

    Sherlock this isnt gw 1. Gw 2 isnt a heavy instanced small game. GW2 is actually a real mmorpg. Do you really think they gonna make money with just b2p ,servers cost ton shit of money. Im just preparing u gw 2 fanboys for whats the next step and its gonna be DLC for mmorpgs,

    The cost of hosting an MMO has been cut to 25% - 33% of what it was 3-4 years ago. Bandwidth costs less and server hardware costs less. Taking paid for additonal content every year or so (expansions) and maybe for some vanity stuff should be a viable way of doing business.

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