Indeed, what made WoW big was the timing and recycling features of other games before it and in development at the same time in such a way to make them more user friendly for the large masses and attract more players to the mmo world. What also helped is that far too many humans just follow the masses and blindly buy what their friends are enthusiastic about.
Topping the music charts doesn't make you a good musician, same applies to mmo's and their community.
Forget WoW 2. Give me Warcraft 4 and Ill be happy.
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Originally posted by Anthur All you need are updated graphics ? Actually the development of graphics in the past decade are main part of the MMO desaster imo. Always better graphics, better graphics, better graphics..... Yes, graphics became better and better over time ... and gameplay suffered a lot. The development costs for graphics became so high that it looks like there is no money left to get a gameplay that is even half as much fun as the first MMO's were.
Blame 99% of the gamers.
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Only good thing about wow is that it keeps people like op away from the real games.
And I pray on a daily basis that they will stay there. Alas they often migrate to the games I love and complain that they are too hard and then, yea verily, the game I like gets nerfed. I like the gated community with no way out idea also.
There are only three reliable metrics for judging the "best MMO ever made". Those metrics are subscription numbers, profits and critical reception. Ignoring the fact that the World of Warcraft franchise is one of the best selling video games of all time >.>
Based on those metrics World of Warcraft is, indeed, the "best MMO ever made".
I'm afraid those who wish to rabidly pursue MMO like a hunter chasing down a wild board do so from a very tenuous position. The only reasonable metrics available are the ones that seem to imply the aforementioned statement regarding WoW. You are more than welcome to disregard those metrics - the only metrics (and I'll keep saying that) - at your discretion, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you wilfully ignorant.
Or it means that you have a brain, and you use it to determine what you like.
No thanks. The faster Blizzard keeps firing staff (600 last count = GOOD) and the faster their corruption of activisionitis is revealed the faster this company will decay from within (also GOOD)
The only good thing blizzard can do for gaming as a whole innovation wise is go bankrupt and dissapear.
No thanks. The faster Blizzard keeps firing staff (600 last count = GOOD) and the faster their corruption of activisionitis is revealed the faster this company will decay from within (also GOOD)
The only good thing blizzard can do for gaming as a whole innovation wise is go bankrupt and dissapear.
And to the retards talking about metrics...according to your logic then ...facebook games are the second comings and all games should be measured to their standards since they have the ABSOLUTE proven most subscribers and most people online at any given time playing right?
WoW is the best because of their measly 10 million players...not hardly. How bout the 230 million facebook clickers???????
Wow is small change in the wordwide money machine.
i would not be interested at all as i think WOW is whats wrong with the entire MMO industry.. After WOW was realeased neary every AAA title has tried to copy it and it had basically destroyed any innovation in MMOs..
I agree. Now every developer in MMOs wants millions of subscribers, which is fairly unfeasable unless they cater to the lowest common denominator like WoW.... and so the WoW clones are spawned, none of which are good enough for people to actually leave the existing WoW community (I use that term loosely) for.
I was thinking what could boost fantasy mmo world again and i came to conclusion that only Blizzard can make again huge mmo with millions of players. But what kind of game? There is no need to think much. New wow with next gen graphic and i will sub again for another 6-7 years. Nothing can compare with magic world of Azeroth
You're kidding, right? There's nothing unique about WoW. The only thing Blizzard did better than anyone was advertise. Blizzards never had a unique idea in their life, a new WoW would be just as boring as the current one. And next gen graphics? WoW looked outdated the day it launched and still does. Keep dreaming. We need a genre without WoW and its clones.
There are only three reliable metrics for judging the "best MMO ever made". Those metrics are subscription numbers, profits and critical reception. Ignoring the fact that the World of Warcraft franchise is one of the best selling video games of all time >.>
Based on those metrics World of Warcraft is, indeed, the "best MMO ever made".
I'm afraid those who wish to rabidly pursue MMO like a hunter chasing down a wild board do so from a very tenuous position. The only reasonable metrics available are the ones that seem to imply the aforementioned statement regarding WoW. You are more than welcome to disregard those metrics - the only metrics (and I'll keep saying that) - at your discretion, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you wilfully ignorant.
Yes and justin bierer is #1 watched in YouTube,therefore he is best ,most brilliant,most sexy,most intellectual,most RPG,most whatever,ever made.
just like Jason Donovan,Rick Astley or whatever before him.
isnt that weird that somehow "best ever made" can change if you use that kind of methods.
I was thinking what could boost fantasy mmo world again and i came to conclusion that only Blizzard can make again huge mmo with millions of players. But what kind of game? There is no need to think much. New wow with next gen graphic and i will sub again for another 6-7 years. Nothing can compare with magic world of Azeroth
I think they are working on it. It's called Mists of Pandaria.
well I just hope they use the "old" WoW model and not the current far-too-easy and linear model.
They wont make the same mistake soe made by making a 2nd of their most popular title. If SOE just invested the money they spent on EQ2 into EQ it would of turned out 10 times more profitable then EQ2 did.
With WOW why make a 2 when the 1st one still has 10 mil players ?
I was thinking what could boost fantasy mmo world again and i came to conclusion that only Blizzard can make again huge mmo with millions of players. But what kind of game? There is no need to think much. New wow with next gen graphic and i will sub again for another 6-7 years. Nothing can compare with magic world of Azeroth
Your one of those people where WoW was the first MMO you played, To me i hope Blizzard enever makes another MMO because they screwed up the MMO market trend, and ruined the 95% of all games that came out in the last 7 years which were trying to copy WoW.
WoW only got so many subscribers because there were the first game to do world wide advertising so people who didnt know about mmorpgs ended up getting it.
To me all the games pre WoW were much better than current day releases although some up coming ones look like they may be changing the market trand again and thats what im looking forward to.
If MMORPG's are to have a real future, I hope this doesnt happen, you dont take the next step by making a new version of the same game, you build on the mistakes and triumphs of the last and make a better game.
I was thinking what could boost fantasy mmo world again and i came to conclusion that only Blizzard can make again huge mmo with millions of players. But what kind of game? There is no need to think much. New wow with next gen graphic and i will sub again for another 6-7 years. Nothing can compare with magic world of Azeroth
Your one of those people where WoW was the first MMO you played, To me i hope Blizzard enever makes another MMO because they screwed up the MMO market trend, and ruined the 95% of all games that came out in the last 7 years which were trying to copy WoW.
WoW only got so many subscribers because there were the first game to do world wide advertising so people who didnt know about mmorpgs ended up getting it.
To me all the games pre WoW were much better than current day releases although some up coming ones look like they may be changing the market trand again and thats what im looking forward to.
Except a huge % of wow players have/will never play another MMO they're not your typical MMO player.
They made a ton of money and they still keeping making it - if players dont demand somthing new with their wallets no one will ever make it.
This is true for every thing from a complete graphic engine overhaull to completly new game play, honestly the only thing that would get me back to WoW these days is "vanilla hardcore" servers, no new mechanics, no pvp stats, no mounts with 10 tons of armor on them, no flying mounts, exploration back in game, harsher penalties, world bosses, and an actuall community
Old PvP ranks were a nice feature ,dang it!
To hard for a couple WoW gamers so they QQed and they nerfed it making it easier like every other part of there game.
They wont make the same mistake soe made by making a 2nd of their most popular title. If SOE just invested the money they spent on EQ2 into EQ it would of turned out 10 times more profitable then EQ2 did.
With WOW why make a 2 when the 1st one still has 10 mil players ?
I dont think they spend money in EQ 1 atm, they are making a new everquest game atm called Everquest next (just tempory name) that is spose to resemble Everquest 1 alot more so thats why they wont spend a whole lot of money on EQ 1 atm since they seem to remaking something similar upto date version of it.
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Indeed, what made WoW big was the timing and recycling features of other games before it and in development at the same time in such a way to make them more user friendly for the large masses and attract more players to the mmo world. What also helped is that far too many humans just follow the masses and blindly buy what their friends are enthusiastic about.
Topping the music charts doesn't make you a good musician, same applies to mmo's and their community.
Forget WoW 2. Give me Warcraft 4 and Ill be happy.
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meh, I'm just going by what their latest report says
anyway, the point is that they have so many players right now that there is no need for them to make a similar game
Blame 99% of the gamers.
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And I pray on a daily basis that they will stay there. Alas they often migrate to the games I love and complain that they are too hard and then, yea verily, the game I like gets nerfed. I like the gated community with no way out idea also.
Currently bored with MMO's.
Or it means that you have a brain, and you use it to determine what you like.
No thanks. The faster Blizzard keeps firing staff (600 last count = GOOD) and the faster their corruption of activisionitis is revealed the faster this company will decay from within (also GOOD)
The only good thing blizzard can do for gaming as a whole innovation wise is go bankrupt and dissapear.
Blizzard has become the J Beiber of Pc games.
So.......you hate great games? Well.....okay.
+1
Cancer, cancer everywhere.
And to the retards talking about metrics...according to your logic then ...facebook games are the second comings and all games should be measured to their standards since they have the ABSOLUTE proven most subscribers and most people online at any given time playing right?
WoW is the best because of their measly 10 million players...not hardly. How bout the 230 million facebook clickers???????
Wow is small change in the wordwide money machine.
I agree. Now every developer in MMOs wants millions of subscribers, which is fairly unfeasable unless they cater to the lowest common denominator like WoW.... and so the WoW clones are spawned, none of which are good enough for people to actually leave the existing WoW community (I use that term loosely) for.
You're kidding, right? There's nothing unique about WoW. The only thing Blizzard did better than anyone was advertise. Blizzards never had a unique idea in their life, a new WoW would be just as boring as the current one. And next gen graphics? WoW looked outdated the day it launched and still does. Keep dreaming. We need a genre without WoW and its clones.
+2
Yes and justin bierer is #1 watched in YouTube,therefore he is best ,most brilliant,most sexy,most intellectual,most RPG,most whatever,ever made.
just like Jason Donovan,Rick Astley or whatever before him.
isnt that weird that somehow "best ever made" can change if you use that kind of methods.
Let's internet
I'm seeing a pattern here, namely absolutely disgusting things being said by people that hate wow players.
Pot calling the kettle black, I suppose.
You lot are no different, whatever the hell that means.
well I just hope they use the "old" WoW model and not the current far-too-easy and linear model.
They wont make the same mistake soe made by making a 2nd of their most popular title. If SOE just invested the money they spent on EQ2 into EQ it would of turned out 10 times more profitable then EQ2 did.
With WOW why make a 2 when the 1st one still has 10 mil players ?
To end up with 15 million players?
Your one of those people where WoW was the first MMO you played, To me i hope Blizzard enever makes another MMO because they screwed up the MMO market trend, and ruined the 95% of all games that came out in the last 7 years which were trying to copy WoW.
WoW only got so many subscribers because there were the first game to do world wide advertising so people who didnt know about mmorpgs ended up getting it.
To me all the games pre WoW were much better than current day releases although some up coming ones look like they may be changing the market trand again and thats what im looking forward to.
If MMORPG's are to have a real future, I hope this doesnt happen, you dont take the next step by making a new version of the same game, you build on the mistakes and triumphs of the last and make a better game.
Hopefully we will see this amazing game this year
Except a huge % of wow players have/will never play another MMO they're not your typical MMO player.
To hard for a couple WoW gamers so they QQed and they nerfed it making it easier like every other part of there game.
Yea-I go back to beta testing WoW. I liked the old game allot better than what is found now. I 'd like to see another WoW based on the orginal format.
I dont think they spend money in EQ 1 atm, they are making a new everquest game atm called Everquest next (just tempory name) that is spose to resemble Everquest 1 alot more so thats why they wont spend a whole lot of money on EQ 1 atm since they seem to remaking something similar upto date version of it.
Yep, the best bet for Blizzard is a WoW V2.0, with updated graphics / character models.