Only 5 min presentations? Everyone I had to do was suppose to be like 20+ min involving visuals and such >.< .
20 minate be easier... our teacher is strick on time 10s short or over 5 mins and we have to cover all the main points of a 8 page research paper and have visual aid. At least 20mins i can talk slow and put more info in XD
Originally posted by binary_0011
no summoner, no necromance, all classes are similar. ..meh....i skip...
All those class require no skill because you have a summon to do the work for you... so i'm glad there isn't any
Originally posted by Zeno89
Originally posted by NBlitz
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
if you dont like Tera, because it is obvious you don't . what are you doing in a Tera forum then?
You mean a MMORPG forum where this post came up as recent posts? It would be different if I was posting this on the official TERA forums. But I'm not...
yes i mean exactly that. would you like me to go to the Gw2 to try to dish it and talk crap about it everyday?
even if i could, i don't think it would help in any constructive way to the GW2 fan base.
ofcourse you are entitle to post anywhere you want. you already stated a few times, you don't like Tera. then why keep going? are you expecting to change our minds and join you in a hate parade against Tera perhaps? or you just dead bored and need to kill some of your idle time untill GW2 gets released?
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
GW2 combat is action combat, it's just not completely hit box based like TERA or Monster Hunter but uses a combination of targetting and hitboxes which a lot of console games which are considered action combat games do.
Lets hope the moderators clean this thread. Since certain individuals cannot be reasoned with, somebody else needs to stop the trolling I'm afraid.
I'm pretty sure we are just having ourselves a discussion, nobody is trolling. Disagreeing and making points is not trolling.
well i got news for you sugar pie! most of the people on this Tera forum. like the game, and plan to buy it. our community may be small, but is actually very good. (except for me)p
even though i ain't no fan of this or any game. i simply get overly tired of the constant false, and demeaning attacks of some individuals toward this game. only because the game happens to be Korean.
it is hard to tell wether you simply want to have a healthy debate or you just downright trolling.
Thanks to the haters and all doomsayers, i like Tera more!p
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
GW2 combat is action combat, it's just not completely hit box based like TERA or Monster Hunter but uses a combination of targetting and hitboxes which a lot of console games which are considered action combat games do.
The more GW2 video i seen the more targeting i seen. Pretty much very single ranged class video i seen the attack hom on to the enemy. Also the fact that you can cast instant cast skill while casting a skill with a cast time total kills any action combat at all for me. i mean seriously cast instant cast skill while in the middel of casting other skill wtf? But we'll see once the game is out, definally buying the game to check out all the claims myself.
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
GW2 combat is action combat, it's just not completely hit box based like TERA or Monster Hunter but uses a combination of targetting and hitboxes which a lot of console games which are considered action combat games do.
The more GW2 video i seen the more targeting i seen. Pretty much very single ranged class video i seen the attack hom on to the enemy. Also the fact that you can cast instant cast skill while casting a skill with a cast time total kills any action combat at all for me. i mean seriously cast instant cast skill while in the middel of casting other skill wtf? But we'll see once the game is out, definally buying the game to check out all the claims myself.
I'm not claiming GW2 is going to be good or wont have it's share of flaws but it's still considered action combat even though it uses a targetting system. Which as I said before, some console games still use targetting in action combat. Currently watching a stream of Dark Souls and it even has a targetting system in it. I never knew since I never played it.
Only 5 min presentations? Everyone I had to do was suppose to be like 20+ min involving visuals and such >.< .
20 minate be easier... our teacher is strick on time 10s short or over 5 mins and we have to cover all the main points of a 8 page research paper and have visual aid. At least 20mins i can talk slow and put more info in XD
Originally posted by binary_0011
no summoner, no necromance, all classes are similar. ..meh....i skip...
All those class require no skill because you have a summon to do the work for you... so i'm glad there isn't any
Originally posted by Zeno89
Originally posted by NBlitz
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
Well I guess you have never played Jedi Academy or Jedi Outcast. There's also much more than that...
Only 5 min presentations? Everyone I had to do was suppose to be like 20+ min involving visuals and such >.< .
20 minate be easier... our teacher is strick on time 10s short or over 5 mins and we have to cover all the main points of a 8 page research paper and have visual aid. At least 20mins i can talk slow and put more info in XD
Originally posted by binary_0011
no summoner, no necromance, all classes are similar. ..meh....i skip...
All those class require no skill because you have a summon to do the work for you... so i'm glad there isn't any
Originally posted by Zeno89
Originally posted by NBlitz
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
Well I guess you have never played Jedi Academy or Jedi Outcast. There's also much more than that...
its star wars, i general stay away from star wars period =X
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
if you dont like Tera, because it is obvious you don't . what are you doing in a Tera forum then?
You mean a MMORPG forum where this post came up as recent posts? It would be different if I was posting this on the official TERA forums. But I'm not...
yes i mean exactly that. would you like me to go to the Gw2 to try to dish it and talk crap about it everyday?
even if i could, i don't think it would help in any constructive way to the GW2 fan base.
ofcourse you are entitle to post anywhere you want. you already stated a few times, you don't like Tera. then why keep going? are you expecting to change our minds and join you in a hate parade against Tera perhaps? or you just dead bored and need to kill some of your idle time untill GW2 gets released?
As I said, I am having a discussion. I don't need the personal attacks, take your attitude elsewhere.
Only 5 min presentations? Everyone I had to do was suppose to be like 20+ min involving visuals and such >.< .
20 minate be easier... our teacher is strick on time 10s short or over 5 mins and we have to cover all the main points of a 8 page research paper and have visual aid. At least 20mins i can talk slow and put more info in XD
Originally posted by binary_0011
no summoner, no necromance, all classes are similar. ..meh....i skip...
All those class require no skill because you have a summon to do the work for you... so i'm glad there isn't any
Originally posted by Zeno89
Originally posted by NBlitz
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
Well I guess you have never played Jedi Academy or Jedi Outcast. There's also much more than that...
its star wars, i general stay away from star wars period =X
Well those are the best games I've ever played and I played them online for about 12 years.
Lets hope the moderators clean this thread. Since certain individuals cannot be reasoned with, somebody else needs to stop the trolling I'm afraid.
I'm pretty sure we are just having ourselves a discussion, nobody is trolling. Disagreeing and making points is not trolling.
well i got news for you sugar pie! most of the people on this Tera forum. like the game, and plan to buy it. our community may be small, but is actually very good. (except for me)p
even though i ain't no fan of this or any game. i simply get overly tired of the constant false, and demeaning attacks of some individuals toward this game. only because the game happens to be Korean.
it is hard to tell wether you simply want to have a healthy debate or you just downright trolling.
Thanks to the haters and all doomsayers, i like Tera more!p
Did I ever say that people, or people here do not like the game? What exactly is going through your head? O.o
TERA plays much like every other action combat game out there.
Which other action combat games allow you to move with impunity during combat?
Plenty. But I assume you are talking about MMO's. None? I guess that's why I dont play action combat MMO's. GW2 is promising just that though.
if you dont like Tera, because it is obvious you don't . what are you doing in a Tera forum then?
You mean a MMORPG forum where this post came up as recent posts? It would be different if I was posting this on the official TERA forums. But I'm not...
yes i mean exactly that. would you like me to go to the Gw2 to try to dish it and talk crap about it everyday?
even if i could, i don't think it would help in any constructive way to the GW2 fan base.
ofcourse you are entitle to post anywhere you want. you already stated a few times, you don't like Tera. then why keep going? are you expecting to change our minds and join you in a hate parade against Tera perhaps? or you just dead bored and need to kill some of your idle time untill GW2 gets released?
As I said, I am having a discussion. I don't need the personal attacks, take your attitude elsewhere.
no is not a personal attack , it is an observation. you iether wanted to start fueling some flames, or were downright trolling.
i'm sceptical about your good intentions to have a simple and nice discussion.
This whole discussion stemmed from one subject (how it is possible to one shot poeple in PvP) and moved to a completely different subject (how Tera should change the combat to resemble X or Y game). The first seem to be an issue which will affect players while levelling. The second is a non issue.
You don't go around game forums demanding that they change their combat. I don't go in GW2 forum to complain about the generic combat and how it should change. The game plays a certain way due to certain reasons. GW2 has no collision detection with anything but your target for a reason. This game stops you when you activate certain skills for a reason. You can either accept the way the game plays (for example I didn't like the way melee played in AoC so I never played one) and try to be good at it or you don't play the game. Simple as that.
Coming to this forum and comparing a game with others that have GCD, don't have collision detection, force you to use macros (to be good) or addons, force you to buttonfest (clicking a button with your finger or your mouse is still clicking a button), force you to play the quickbars instead of looking at the action, force you to play the fill the health bar game and say this game's combat is worse, is certainly a bit of a stretch.
Do you like the combat the way it is? Good, because it won't change much at max level, I reckon. You don't? Then perhaps this is not the game for you, since combat is what you'll be doing for a considerable amount of time.
This whole discussion stemmed from one subject (how it is possible to one shot poeple in PvP) and moved to a completely different subject (how Tera should change the combat to resemble X or Y game). The first seem to be an issue which will affect players while levelling. The second is a non issue.
You don't go around game forums demanding that they change their combat. I don't go in GW2 forum to complain about the generic combat and how it should change. The game plays a certain way due to certain reasons. GW2 has no collision detection with anything but your target for a reason. This game stops you when you activate certain skills for a reason. You can either accept the way the game plays (for example I didn't like the way melee played in AoC so I never played one) and try to be good at it or you don't play the game. Simple as that.
Coming to this forum and comparing a game with others that have GCD, force you to use macros (to be good) or addons, force you to buttonfest (clicking a button with your finger or your mouse is still clicking a button), force you to play the quickbars instead of looking at the action, force you to play the fill the health bar game and say this game's combat is worse, is certainly a bit of a stretch.
Do you like the combat the way it is? Good, because it won't change much at max level, I reckon. You don't? Then perhaps this is not the game for you, since combat is what you'll be doing for a considerable amount of time.
LOL! I haven't demanded anything, I just stated some opinions and some fanboys got their feelings hurt. Wow dude! And I only compared things because of what people said back to me. Nobody has done anything at all that you talk about in this post...
I haven't said anything personal =. I keep having to defend myself though for stating my opinions about the game, that seems a little off, right?
lol we heard your opinion about 90 times already?P we all know already you dont like Tera, that you hate the combat, that you love Gw2.
thanks for you opinion!p really don't know what else to tell ya lol
Ok, then please stop talking to me. Because I have been talking to you for a while. And no, GW2 does not look very promising. Never said it did. I also never said I hated the combat, I stated the one thing that turns me off about the combat. I also asid it was a good concept that doesn't seem like it was implemented correctly.
You don't go around game forums demanding that they change their combat. I don't go in GW2 forum to complain about the generic combat and how it should change.
Coming to this forum and comparing a game with others that have GCD, force you to use macros (to be good) or addons, force you to buttonfest (clicking a button with your finger or your mouse is still clicking a button), force you to play the quickbars instead of looking at the action, force you to play the fill the health bar game and say this game's combat is worse, is certainly a bit of a stretch.
But it's ok to come into a forum and bash other games in favor of your game of choice?
Be careful, your bias is showing.
This post shows you don't really know much about GW2 combat.
I could just as easily say that Tera has extremely generic hotkey / macro combat, with GDC/cooldown timer watching.
It just also has dodge rolling and FPS-esque cursor tracking (aiming).
And "fill the health bar game" = Trinity MMO combat, which Tera is 100%.
Should be more objective.
Tera combat is a lot of fun, I certainly found that in CBT, PvP was/is an improvement over many other games because of that (IMO) but the rest of the game is far too generic for me.
The whole quest grind kill 10 rats and the level to max then PvP/raid thing is about as "generic" as you can get.
This game's saving grace will be the end-game political system, but how much do we really know about it?
I'm beginning to remember why I have had an account here for 5 years but rarely post. You say one negative thing about any game and all the sudden you are bashing it, you absolutely hate it, you love another game that people are comparing it to, you are trolling, and you want people that like the game to die in the fiery pits of hell.
This whole discussion stemmed from one subject (how it is possible to one shot poeple in PvP) and moved to a completely different subject (how Tera should change the combat to resemble X or Y game). The first seem to be an issue which will affect players while levelling. The second is a non issue.
You don't go around game forums demanding that they change their combat. I don't go in GW2 forum to complain about the generic combat and how it should change. The game plays a certain way due to certain reasons. GW2 has no collision detection with anything but your target for a reason. This game stops you when you activate certain skills for a reason. You can either accept the way the game plays (for example I didn't like the way melee played in AoC so I never played one) and try to be good at it or you don't play the game. Simple as that.
Coming to this forum and comparing a game with others that have GCD, force you to use macros (to be good) or addons, force you to buttonfest (clicking a button with your finger or your mouse is still clicking a button), force you to play the quickbars instead of looking at the action, force you to play the fill the health bar game and say this game's combat is worse, is certainly a bit of a stretch.
Do you like the combat the way it is? Good, because it won't change much at max level, I reckon. You don't? Then perhaps this is not the game for you, since combat is what you'll be doing for a considerable amount of time.
LOL! I haven't demanded anything, I just stated some opinions and some fanboys got their feelings hurt. Wow dude! And I only compared things because of what people said back to me. Nobody has done anything at all that you talk about in this post...
This is what happens. You try to show a view point and they get all upset and call you a troll. It's funny how he acts like that people wont be doing the same to GW2 when people actually get to play it, like it has some immunity to ciritcizim. People aren't basing GW2 yet cause most people have yet to even touch the game and anyone who goes on there bashing it most likely havn't played it yet either. TERA on the other hand is easily playable now.
But it's ok to come into a forum and bash other games in favor of your game of choice?
Be careful, your bias is showing.
This post shows you don't really know much about GW2 combat.
I could just as easily say that Tera has extremely generic hotkey / macro combat, with GDC/cooldown timer watching.
It just also has dodge rolling and FPS-esque cursor tracking (aiming).
And "fill the health bar game" = Trinity MMO combat, which Tera is 100%.
Should be more objective.
Tera combat is a lot of fun, I certainly found that in CBT, PvP was/is an improvement over many other games because of that (IMO) but the rest of the game is far too generic for me.
The whole quest grind kill 10 rats and the level to max then PvP/raid thing is about as "generic" as you can get.
This game's saving grace will be the end-game political system, but how much do we really know about it?
Hey BadSpock haven't seen you here in a while. Well i say the saving grace is the PvP and political system but than again almost every end game of mmorpg lives off PvP and raids =X
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Pointing out the flaws in your arguments does not make us "trolls". It just shows how weak your arguments are.
I'm pretty sure we are just having ourselves a discussion, nobody is trolling. Disagreeing and making points is not trolling.
20 minate be easier... our teacher is strick on time 10s short or over 5 mins and we have to cover all the main points of a 8 page research paper and have visual aid. At least 20mins i can talk slow and put more info in XD
All those class require no skill because you have a summon to do the work for you... so i'm glad there isn't any
Penty as in none? Never play real action combat have you? Most clasic street fighter, root animation. More 3D action combat demon soul, dark soul, monster hunter, god eater burst, god of war all have the root animation.
If your talking about GW2 promising action combat well its not action combat.
yes i mean exactly that. would you like me to go to the Gw2 to try to dish it and talk crap about it everyday?
even if i could, i don't think it would help in any constructive way to the GW2 fan base.
ofcourse you are entitle to post anywhere you want. you already stated a few times, you don't like Tera. then why keep going? are you expecting to change our minds and join you in a hate parade against Tera perhaps? or you just dead bored and need to kill some of your idle time untill GW2 gets released?
GW2 combat is action combat, it's just not completely hit box based like TERA or Monster Hunter but uses a combination of targetting and hitboxes which a lot of console games which are considered action combat games do.
Oh, I'm playing GW2 combat right now. With my LOTRO minstrel. All I'm missing is a dodge button.
(And this is why I'm not excited about GW2 combat. And I realise I'm now trolling Tera's forums with GW2 drivel).
well i got news for you sugar pie! most of the people on this Tera forum. like the game, and plan to buy it. our community may be small, but is actually very good. (except for me)p
even though i ain't no fan of this or any game. i simply get overly tired of the constant false, and demeaning attacks of some individuals toward this game. only because the game happens to be Korean.
it is hard to tell wether you simply want to have a healthy debate or you just downright trolling.
Thanks to the haters and all doomsayers, i like Tera more!p
The more GW2 video i seen the more targeting i seen. Pretty much very single ranged class video i seen the attack hom on to the enemy. Also the fact that you can cast instant cast skill while casting a skill with a cast time total kills any action combat at all for me. i mean seriously cast instant cast skill while in the middel of casting other skill wtf? But we'll see once the game is out, definally buying the game to check out all the claims myself.
I'm not claiming GW2 is going to be good or wont have it's share of flaws but it's still considered action combat even though it uses a targetting system. Which as I said before, some console games still use targetting in action combat. Currently watching a stream of Dark Souls and it even has a targetting system in it. I never knew since I never played it.
Well I guess you have never played Jedi Academy or Jedi Outcast. There's also much more than that...
its star wars, i general stay away from star wars period =X
As I said, I am having a discussion. I don't need the personal attacks, take your attitude elsewhere.
Well those are the best games I've ever played and I played them online for about 12 years.
Did I ever say that people, or people here do not like the game? What exactly is going through your head? O.o
no is not a personal attack , it is an observation. you iether wanted to start fueling some flames, or were downright trolling.
i'm sceptical about your good intentions to have a simple and nice discussion.
Many people seems to forget this is a GAME, and games are designed to have fun and enjoy them.
OP is having a blast with this game.... so?
There are many games out there that I dont like but as far as someone does.. fine with it.
So stop trolling him and talking about gw2.
You dont like the game and you have the right (as I do with others) to criticized it, but never going personal.
I haven't said anything personal =. I keep having to defend myself though for stating my opinions about the game, that seems a little off, right?
This whole discussion stemmed from one subject (how it is possible to one shot poeple in PvP) and moved to a completely different subject (how Tera should change the combat to resemble X or Y game). The first seem to be an issue which will affect players while levelling. The second is a non issue.
You don't go around game forums demanding that they change their combat. I don't go in GW2 forum to complain about the generic combat and how it should change. The game plays a certain way due to certain reasons. GW2 has no collision detection with anything but your target for a reason. This game stops you when you activate certain skills for a reason. You can either accept the way the game plays (for example I didn't like the way melee played in AoC so I never played one) and try to be good at it or you don't play the game. Simple as that.
Coming to this forum and comparing a game with others that have GCD, don't have collision detection, force you to use macros (to be good) or addons, force you to buttonfest (clicking a button with your finger or your mouse is still clicking a button), force you to play the quickbars instead of looking at the action, force you to play the fill the health bar game and say this game's combat is worse, is certainly a bit of a stretch.
Do you like the combat the way it is? Good, because it won't change much at max level, I reckon. You don't? Then perhaps this is not the game for you, since combat is what you'll be doing for a considerable amount of time.
LOL! I haven't demanded anything, I just stated some opinions and some fanboys got their feelings hurt. Wow dude! And I only compared things because of what people said back to me. Nobody has done anything at all that you talk about in this post...
lol we heard your opinion about 90 times already?P we all know already you dont like Tera, that you hate the combat, that you love Gw2.
thanks for you opinion!p really don't know what else to tell ya lol
Ok, then please stop talking to me. Because I have been talking to you for a while. And no, GW2 does not look very promising. Never said it did. I also never said I hated the combat, I stated the one thing that turns me off about the combat. I also asid it was a good concept that doesn't seem like it was implemented correctly.
But it's ok to come into a forum and bash other games in favor of your game of choice?
Be careful, your bias is showing.
This post shows you don't really know much about GW2 combat.
I could just as easily say that Tera has extremely generic hotkey / macro combat, with GDC/cooldown timer watching.
It just also has dodge rolling and FPS-esque cursor tracking (aiming).
And "fill the health bar game" = Trinity MMO combat, which Tera is 100%.
Should be more objective.
Tera combat is a lot of fun, I certainly found that in CBT, PvP was/is an improvement over many other games because of that (IMO) but the rest of the game is far too generic for me.
The whole quest grind kill 10 rats and the level to max then PvP/raid thing is about as "generic" as you can get.
This game's saving grace will be the end-game political system, but how much do we really know about it?
I'm beginning to remember why I have had an account here for 5 years but rarely post. You say one negative thing about any game and all the sudden you are bashing it, you absolutely hate it, you love another game that people are comparing it to, you are trolling, and you want people that like the game to die in the fiery pits of hell.
You fanboys are ridiculous.
This is what happens. You try to show a view point and they get all upset and call you a troll. It's funny how he acts like that people wont be doing the same to GW2 when people actually get to play it, like it has some immunity to ciritcizim. People aren't basing GW2 yet cause most people have yet to even touch the game and anyone who goes on there bashing it most likely havn't played it yet either. TERA on the other hand is easily playable now.
Hey BadSpock haven't seen you here in a while. Well i say the saving grace is the PvP and political system but than again almost every end game of mmorpg lives off PvP and raids =X