There isn't a single game in the history of all games, in which a microtransaction plan has helped to strengthen the integrity of the game.
They ALWAYS weaken it, maybe not to an extreme, but they weaken it more than the game would be without them.
If you think paying extra for ANYTHING in a game is good, you simply don't understand the impact such options have on a large scale.
And waht is subscription fee is not micro transaction really ? Only it's forced upon you if you wish to continue playing. Here you have choice. Ignore the vanity stuff, because it means nothing to you, work for it yourself through in-game methods or pay for it and support the coompany, content developement and server upkeep.
Where were you people when MMOs with sub fees started charging for services like name change or character transfer ? Why it's okay for company to charge 15-20$ just for the fact you use automated script that changes single string in database and charging for a pink dress of awesomelooking that offers no advantage is suddenly crime against humanity?
Where was I? I was talking about how mmos are going downhill, because p2p mmos used to think such microtransactions were unethical, and then it became tolerable, and now it is almost a standard.
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Originally posted by RobertDinh
Originally posted by DJJazzy
Originally posted by hikaru77
And thats why GW2 is a B2P MMO, Anet and NCsoft WANT MONEY.
Can you tell me what business, organizations, corporations don't want money?
Cause we all know just because a business wants to make money, means it should do anything possible to squeeze you for as much money as possible.
Ever heard of business ethics?
If they really wanted to squeeze you for as much money as possible...they'd have added a monthly subscription fee.
Flawed logic, as one of their attempted selling points is that they are so different and innovative and try to paint p2p mmos as greed, when they will just nickel and dime you in roundabout ways.
OMG. So I can buy gems and use them ingame to buy gear with the exact same stats that I get for free?
Well my flash looking armor, paid with RL cash, will make me invincible as everyone has to gaze at me in amazement! This is SO P2W :-D
I'll just sit back until I see a list with all the PvP titles (that actually involves PvP). I should be able to buy those right?
Well at least the drama is priceless.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!! (repeat ad infinitum)
OMG. So I can buy gems and use them ingame to buy gear with the exact same stats that I get for free?
Well my flash looking armor, paid with RL cash, will make me invincible as everyone has to gaze at me in amazement! This is SO P2W :-D
I'll just sit back until I see a list with all the PvP titles (that actually involves PvP). I should be able to buy those right?
Well at least the drama is priceless.
I'm not gonna lie I haven't laughed so much irl in awhile.
I also like how a few felt proud that their rumors were wrong(but they think they are right).
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
For those who say it doesn't give people an advantage I have a question...What are "time saving convience items?" I see these as not only +xp for leveling but probably plus gathering loot so you get so much more gains from mining or what not. And when I can gather 20% more then somone who doesn't pay money that gives me an advantage.
Second point is why this will make goldselling worse and not better. Most games have a cap on what gold is really worth. For example I have zero reason to buy gold in WoW because there is nothing I can use it on. You can't get the best gear with it so once you hit a point gold really serves no value it just sits there a accumlates. Anything you do need to spend gold on you can easily earn enough. However in GW2 gold traded for gems spent on "time-saving items" means gold will always have a value. You can always use +xp for a alt or +whatever else "time-saving" means(and I 100% believe there will be end game applications for "time saving convience store items". So now there is always a reason to buy gold which means more gold farmers not less. All it will do is limit what they charge you for gold. For example say 2k gold can be traded for 20 gems which is $20. Now gold farmers just need to make sure they can farm enough gold to sell 2k gold for 10 dollars or less and everyone will buy gold so now you get 40 gems for $20 instead of 20 gems.
And thats why GW2 is a B2P MMO, Anet and NCsoft WANT MONEY.
Can you tell me what business, organizations, corporations don't want money?
Cause we all know just because a business wants to make money, means it should do anything possible to squeeze you for as much money as possible.
Ever heard of business ethics?
squeeze as much money as possible? hmm... so if ur definition of a company that's squeezing as much money from their playbase as they can is one that would create an MMO with a cash shop that's not P2W(how exactly do u win in the game like someone else asked earlier in this thread?) and has no monthly fees, then i'm curious as to what u call a company that charges a monthly fee for their game and have a cash shop on top of that.
just an honest question: do u have a personal vendetta against Anet? did they kill your cat or something? cause whenever i see u around these forums, all i've seen u do is belittle every little thing they do that u happen to come across with.
There is a simple question that needs to be answered. I apologize if I have missed it in all of this, but here it is:
What items of value are going to be available via GOLD that would make people want to spend hard earned cash on them... rather than grind?
We know that there will be vanity items available via GEMS, but why would someone trade GEMS for GOLD. There has to be an incentive (and a good one) else players will not bother doing this. The only reason to make a market like this is to meet a demand... and it has to be worth the money to do so. We all know that there will be a demand for the vanity items, but there has to be an even greater demand for GOLD purchased items, in order to get players to continuosly sell GEMS for GOLD.
We know that only a small % of players will buy GEMS, and they are allowing this trade, so that those small amount, will be able to invest large amounts of money in GEMS, in order to get the GOLD items that they desire.... so what is going to be so compelling on the GOLD market? Remember, items for sale for GOLD are not 'selling power' as they are sold by players.... but there has to be something compelling in order to make this work.
This is a really good point.
And my guess would be...you need a timesink. Which would maybe be crafting or something similar. Crafting, for instance, has a ton of combinations, and I'm betting that some mats that drop from mobs won't drop regularly. Grindy grind. I know that I'll be buying inventory space right off the bat, as Yogscast had bags full of crafting mats - they had to chuck items early on. The idea is you buy gems with money rather than invest time, which you then sell for gold. So something is going to take enough time for RL money to be used to bypass it. :P
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
There is a simple question that needs to be answered. I apologize if I have missed it in all of this, but here it is:
What items of value are going to be available via GOLD that would make people want to spend hard earned cash on them... rather than grind?
We know that there will be vanity items available via GEMS, but why would someone trade GEMS for GOLD. There has to be an incentive (and a good one) else players will not bother doing this. The only reason to make a market like this is to meet a demand... and it has to be worth the money to do so. We all know that there will be a demand for the vanity items, but there has to be an even greater demand for GOLD purchased items, in order to get players to continuosly sell GEMS for GOLD.
We know that only a small % of players will buy GEMS, and they are allowing this trade, so that those small amount, will be able to invest large amounts of money in GEMS, in order to get the GOLD items that they desire.... so what is going to be so compelling on the GOLD market? Remember, items for sale for GOLD are not 'selling power' as they are sold by players.... but there has to be something compelling in order to make this work.
This is a really good point.
And my guess would be...you need a timesink. Which would maybe be crafting or something similar. Crafting, for instance, has a ton of combinations, and I'm betting that some mats that drop from mobs won't drop regularly. Grindy grind. I know that I'll be buying inventory space right off the bat, as Yogscast had bags full of crafting mats - they had to chuck items early on. The idea is you buy gems with money rather than invest time, which you then sell for gold. So something is going to take enough time for RL money to be used to bypass it. :P
This is actualy a very good point indeed, i wont sell my gems unless it is worth it.
And thats why GW2 is a B2P MMO, Anet and NCsoft WANT MONEY.
Can you tell me what business, organizations, corporations don't want money?
Cause we all know just because a business wants to make money, means it should do anything possible to squeeze you for as much money as possible.
Ever heard of business ethics?
right, thats why i dont support subscription based games.... WHy let them squeeze me for as much money as possible? no thanks...i pay for the box only and have some cosmetics here and there from cash shop when i want to have them.
OMG. So I can buy gems and use them ingame to buy gear with the exact same stats that I get for free?
Well my flash looking armor, paid with RL cash, will make me invincible as everyone has to gaze at me in amazement! This is SO P2W :-D
I'll just sit back until I see a list with all the PvP titles (that actually involves PvP). I should be able to buy those right?
Well at least the drama is priceless.
Well until we know what is in the cash shops its hard to say, while I don't forsee them putting titles in there. I see no reason for them not to put an item like the pre-order chalice in there. I would list it as a convience item, and while it won't be p2w it cheapens the feel of the structured pvp rewards. There is no way to tell who put the time and effort into who 'earned' their glory armor and who simply bought chalices to boost their glory gains.
I know nothing they said has confirmed that chalices will be in the shop but they also did not deny they would be, and they certainly fall under that..
if anyone can answer this question for me, i would really appreciate it. are there going to be skins that are ultra rare, like Crystalline Sword in GW1-rare, in GW2? if not, the fact u can sell gems for gold wouldn't worry me as much anymore.
For those saying well there's no sub so this is okay:
I'm a packrat, I'm perfectly willing to spend money on more bank space than any sane human could ever use. I'm willing to buy a silly number of character slots because I'm a major alt roller, too. I'm also fine with buying an expansion two or three times a year at $60 a pop, and I'm fine with costumes and pets.
I am not fine with diamonds that can be used to buy gold from other players. I do not like this idea. I see too many ways it can be used to obtain power in game that other players will not be able to obtain. It remains to be seen whether any of those ways will exist in game, but the potential is there.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
Like players? To fight in WvW for you?
Why would you spend RL money to have other players fight in PvP for ingame currency..er wait. What server will you be on and what will be your toon's name?
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
i don't know if it's just me but that sounds pretty cool tbh.
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
Wow that proposition is so out of left field, but I'll bite. I guarentee you your mercs will get rofl stomped by the coordinated hardcore guilds on the opposing servers, and you would have bought all those gems for nothing. End of rine.
if anyone can answer this question for me, i would really appreciate it. are there going to be skins that are ultra rare, like Crystalline Sword in GW1-rare, in GW2? if not, the fact u can sell gems for gold wouldn't worry me as much anymore.
Nobody knows if that's the case or not, but it's safe to assume that extremely rare items will exist.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
You know... that would actually be an interesting game mechanism.. they could even make it so that a guild can hire mercenaries on WvW to fight on their name and help capture keeps and the like..
I think it is simple. Don't sell tradeable items and accomplishments in the cash store. Giving ppl with a fat wallet access to heaps of ingame currency at a click of a button is a bad call imo. It devalues any with gold purchasable item from a gameplay perspective.
'Oh, I need to buy this item from this npc/player. Sec, I have to turn on the moneyprinting press' *goes to cash shop*
Also, keep in mind that they create an auction hall system where you can post what you are looking for. This will create a constant supply of gold from people who place ads to buy gems with ingame gold. Instant gold for gembuyers.
The only difference with 3rd party goldsellers is that they now will be legitemate players that don't spam ads in chat or email, but place them neatly in the auction hall system.
System is severly flawed imo. I used to admire Mike O'Brien, but I think that this particular blog is a poor piece of marketing bs.
Then the difference here being that the cash shop was an afterthough for anarchy online, while for GW2 it was designed around it.
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
More power to you then, others will form guilds and do it for free
What will I do? I will put to one side the money I would normally spend on a sub, and if I really "need" to buy things, I will use that. GW2 looks way better than most sub games anyway.
What I would love ArenaNet to consider though, is an option to sub if we want to. If I could pay a standard monthly sub and get 8 character slots, a small collection of gems once a month and the DLC for free, I would gladly pay it for the convenience of not having to mess about with the cash shop and manage my cash.
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Where was I? I was talking about how mmos are going downhill, because p2p mmos used to think such microtransactions were unethical, and then it became tolerable, and now it is almost a standard.
Flawed logic, as one of their attempted selling points is that they are so different and innovative and try to paint p2p mmos as greed, when they will just nickel and dime you in roundabout ways.
OMG. So I can buy gems and use them ingame to buy gear with the exact same stats that I get for free?
Well my flash looking armor, paid with RL cash, will make me invincible as everyone has to gaze at me in amazement! This is SO P2W :-D
I'll just sit back until I see a list with all the PvP titles (that actually involves PvP). I should be able to buy those right?
Well at least the drama is priceless.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)
I'm not gonna lie I haven't laughed so much irl in awhile.
I also like how a few felt proud that their rumors were wrong(but they think they are right).
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Couple of quick points.
For those who say it doesn't give people an advantage I have a question...What are "time saving convience items?" I see these as not only +xp for leveling but probably plus gathering loot so you get so much more gains from mining or what not. And when I can gather 20% more then somone who doesn't pay money that gives me an advantage.
Second point is why this will make goldselling worse and not better. Most games have a cap on what gold is really worth. For example I have zero reason to buy gold in WoW because there is nothing I can use it on. You can't get the best gear with it so once you hit a point gold really serves no value it just sits there a accumlates. Anything you do need to spend gold on you can easily earn enough. However in GW2 gold traded for gems spent on "time-saving items" means gold will always have a value. You can always use +xp for a alt or +whatever else "time-saving" means(and I 100% believe there will be end game applications for "time saving convience store items". So now there is always a reason to buy gold which means more gold farmers not less. All it will do is limit what they charge you for gold. For example say 2k gold can be traded for 20 gems which is $20. Now gold farmers just need to make sure they can farm enough gold to sell 2k gold for 10 dollars or less and everyone will buy gold so now you get 40 gems for $20 instead of 20 gems.
squeeze as much money as possible? hmm... so if ur definition of a company that's squeezing as much money from their playbase as they can is one that would create an MMO with a cash shop that's not P2W(how exactly do u win in the game like someone else asked earlier in this thread?) and has no monthly fees, then i'm curious as to what u call a company that charges a monthly fee for their game and have a cash shop on top of that.
just an honest question: do u have a personal vendetta against Anet? did they kill your cat or something? cause whenever i see u around these forums, all i've seen u do is belittle every little thing they do that u happen to come across with.
This is a really good point.
And my guess would be...you need a timesink. Which would maybe be crafting or something similar. Crafting, for instance, has a ton of combinations, and I'm betting that some mats that drop from mobs won't drop regularly. Grindy grind.
I know that I'll be buying inventory space right off the bat, as Yogscast had bags full of crafting mats - they had to chuck items early on. The idea is you buy gems with money rather than invest time, which you then sell for gold. So something is going to take enough time for RL money to be used to bypass it. :P
GW2 aint a heavy gear based game like WoW or Aion.....We are almost the same in stats from green to epic gear...
I have no problem that some1 is wearing the same gear but with a special color i wont get as i dont want to spend money on it
Imagen Aion where a full set of weps and armor could take a year or more to obain could be bought with real life money like on private servers :P
But we all know GW2 is not gear based like that, so why we care about it -_- ?
Yeah okay, but you assume I'm directly comparing it to AO too, and I'm not, anymore than I was comparing it direclty to WoW.
Here's the deal. I'm going to save up a couple hundred bucks, buy diamonds, sell those for gold, hire mercenaries to fight for me in WvWvW for 24/7 coverage, then you tell me how I didn't get an advantage over other players who would have to farm up massive amounts of gold to hire them.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
This is actualy a very good point indeed, i wont sell my gems unless it is worth it.
right, thats why i dont support subscription based games.... WHy let them squeeze me for as much money as possible? no thanks...i pay for the box only and have some cosmetics here and there from cash shop when i want to have them.
Well until we know what is in the cash shops its hard to say, while I don't forsee them putting titles in there. I see no reason for them not to put an item like the pre-order chalice in there. I would list it as a convience item, and while it won't be p2w it cheapens the feel of the structured pvp rewards. There is no way to tell who put the time and effort into who 'earned' their glory armor and who simply bought chalices to boost their glory gains.
I know nothing they said has confirmed that chalices will be in the shop but they also did not deny they would be, and they certainly fall under that..
if anyone can answer this question for me, i would really appreciate it. are there going to be skins that are ultra rare, like Crystalline Sword in GW1-rare, in GW2? if not, the fact u can sell gems for gold wouldn't worry me as much anymore.
For those saying well there's no sub so this is okay:
I'm a packrat, I'm perfectly willing to spend money on more bank space than any sane human could ever use. I'm willing to buy a silly number of character slots because I'm a major alt roller, too. I'm also fine with buying an expansion two or three times a year at $60 a pop, and I'm fine with costumes and pets.
I am not fine with diamonds that can be used to buy gold from other players. I do not like this idea. I see too many ways it can be used to obtain power in game that other players will not be able to obtain. It remains to be seen whether any of those ways will exist in game, but the potential is there.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
There are no mercenaries in WvWvW rofl. Secondly even if there were you wouldnt be able to do it for a while. Please remember that for you to get gold with gems other people need to earn them and secondly there must be something those players really need to waste the lil money they would have the gems they are gona get from you.
I wonder tho, are you assuming that the moment you get gems you can instantly trade them for gold? cause thats not how it works.
You are missing my point. I can pay people to fight, and that makes them mercenaries. They aren't fighting for the server, they're fighting for gold.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
Like players? To fight in WvW for you?
Why would you spend RL money to have other players fight in PvP for ingame currency..er wait. What server will you be on and what will be your toon's name?
i don't know if it's just me but that sounds pretty cool tbh.
Wow that proposition is so out of left field, but I'll bite. I guarentee you your mercs will get rofl stomped by the coordinated hardcore guilds on the opposing servers, and you would have bought all those gems for nothing. End of rine.
And? Whats your problem?
Nobody knows if that's the case or not, but it's safe to assume that extremely rare items will exist.
Hype train -> Reality
You know... that would actually be an interesting game mechanism.. they could even make it so that a guild can hire mercenaries on WvW to fight on their name and help capture keeps and the like..
What can men do against such reckless hate?
I think it is simple. Don't sell tradeable items and accomplishments in the cash store. Giving ppl with a fat wallet access to heaps of ingame currency at a click of a button is a bad call imo. It devalues any with gold purchasable item from a gameplay perspective.
'Oh, I need to buy this item from this npc/player. Sec, I have to turn on the moneyprinting press' *goes to cash shop*
Also, keep in mind that they create an auction hall system where you can post what you are looking for. This will create a constant supply of gold from people who place ads to buy gems with ingame gold. Instant gold for gembuyers.
The only difference with 3rd party goldsellers is that they now will be legitemate players that don't spam ads in chat or email, but place them neatly in the auction hall system.
System is severly flawed imo. I used to admire Mike O'Brien, but I think that this particular blog is a poor piece of marketing bs.
More power to you then, others will form guilds and do it for free
haha 10 000 or P2W. 1000 till tomorow, nice start
I like RVR
Daoc is old and dying
WAR got destroyed by biowares 1.4 patch
TSW has tunrend into a carebears game
Planetside 2 also has a cash shop
Dominus is west coast servers only.
so GW2 is the only choice for now.
What will I do? I will put to one side the money I would normally spend on a sub, and if I really "need" to buy things, I will use that. GW2 looks way better than most sub games anyway.
What I would love ArenaNet to consider though, is an option to sub if we want to. If I could pay a standard monthly sub and get 8 character slots, a small collection of gems once a month and the DLC for free, I would gladly pay it for the convenience of not having to mess about with the cash shop and manage my cash.