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Poor Arenanet
Pigozz
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So...GW2 is trying to fullfill every themepark MMO gamer all the wishes they ever had (dynamic events/combat, minigames, combos, no trinity no gear grind etc etc etc )
They dont force you to spent monthly money on it...you pay once for your copy and then you can EXPERIENCE EVERY BIT OF THE GAME ----- FOR THE BOX PRICE !!!
THE EVEN OFFICIALLY STATED THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY OUT OF QUESTION any kind of P2W model, they're even planning beta event just to test what transactions are people okay with!!
And what they receive as feedback from players??
One flame thread after another about how GW2 is going to be a P2W crap, how they lied to us all the time and how greedy they are
Poor Arenanet...honestly if I were developing passionately this game for few years and receive such feedbach, I'd probably lose all the passion immediately....
/giant facepalm
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
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Meh, they can handle it, they are big boys. I'm certain they expected this type of reaction and are prepared for it.
zigackly... they'll be fine. i know that they're still getting my money at least, and i'm sure they'll get money from tons of other people.
every one knows that haters live only to hate. I am pretty sure that developers that actually care about their players and their game (ANET) ignore haters or even laugh at their trolling because they know they are wrong. I think their hate and trolling are actually encouraging to make the game even better just to make haters fall flat on their face after launch.
Double standards much? I don't know what I hate more. This bad RMT idea (still hope itll be an april fools day setup) or the apologists that defend Arenanet no matter what.
"Here’s our philosophy on microtransactions: We think players should have the opportunity to spend money on items that provide visual distinction and offer more ways to express themselves. They should also be able to spend money on account services and on time-saving convenience items. But it’s never OK for players to buy a game and not be able to enjoy what they paid for without additional purchases, and it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time.
ooOooOOo they have a cash shop, big deal, kudos to them, they deserve to make more money than just box sales, and they already stated in no way is it ok for them to sell items to players that will give them an unfair advantage over everyone else, so big deal, all the haters can keep hating, im kinda excited about it, if i want to spend $10 on armor that looks badass you're darn right im going to, and it wont give me an "unfair" advantage, other than you will be like, "wow, he looks like a pimp!" and i will slap you in the face as you are doing so
The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.
P2W .... everyone that understands the kind of game Anet is trying to build, knows that there will not be any P2W, its all about player skill... everyone can easilly aquire gear with max stats... the stuff you buy is just for the awesome looks.
The only sad thing is that it will ruin their ingame econnomy.... and that prices will rise beyound anything ever imagined... and that pleyers that hunt for gold and dont buy gems can never pay the outrages prices... but then that does not matter as you can find top gear enough from drops and dungeons.
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Don't think that the ArenaNet guys are inhuman robots, they're not.
Izzy, on the Guru forums, had so many personal attacks to deal with that he had to retire from game balancing for a bit just to recuperate. People can be misanthropic, sociopathic, entitled jerks. Sometimes people need to be told that that's the case.
The outrage is not about GW2 having microtransactions. The outrage is about having tradable items in that cashshop. Gems that can be used as alternative currency.
Omg, now you get all those ppl who confuse the two, ugh.
I hope those people complain really wont buy the game at all to mess our experience. I would buy 3-4 boxes if it would mean to prevent that kind of 3-4 ignorant individual.
They are just plain senseless, most of them have no clue about the game at all, yet still whine about gem to gold being gamebreaking. Ffs they didnt even tested that and they mentioned that they will. Some idiot was complaining about how people would spam siege weps the real money...
Well, about anet: they love their game and they sure cant wait for it go live just like us to play it. And i doubt they will be affected by 10-15 slow-minded keyboard intellectuals
the outrage is because people think this somehow makes it p2w. this is simply not the case. without god tier items (GW2 will not have a gear grind if you recall) there is no pressing urge to get the next best thing. in fact, i would say there isn't going to be "the bestest weapon" since it all depends on your play style.
Well with the attention this game is recieving they should expect this kind of response imo.
Pretty much like every other free to play game in the internet except you need to buy it.
Let's internet
Well, if the game is good enough I'm going to play it as a P2P game (aka spend 15 euros or so per month on the shop).
Still, the hype is so huge that it is not unlikely that they'll pull a Mythic on us. The forums certainly resemble the time just before Warhammer's release.
It doesn't take much to draw outrage from this community. I have not shyed away from speaking my mind when A-net has shown something I didn't like, this isn't one of those times.
People keep going on about P2W, yet have not offered up an example of what exactly people are paying to win. Please explain to me what the problem is here? What are people going to be purchasing that throws the game off balance?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'm not interested in a semantics discussion about the meaning of the abbreviation 'p2w'. But the moment that those gems are going to be used as alternative currency (like ectos in GW1) and are tradable if you buy them from the cash shop, you basically buy (print) ingame money with real cash.
What you then can do with that currency is besides the point. The point is that they crossed a very clear line with their microtransactions.
How severe this will turn out to be is dependable on what you can do with the gems or gold (because you can sell them for gold). But all kinds of services ingame cost gold. Currency is an important gamemechanic and one of your goals for you to chase. Letting ppl buy that is the same principle as letting ppl buy accomplishment titles.
Why not let them sell pvp ranks in the shop too.
Poor ArenaNet? Yeah I am sure they will be all crying all the way to the bank where they will have the millions they will make on this game.
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There will be exp potions correct? And a higher level will have an advantage over a lower level, right?
In other words a player can buy himself to higher level faster than someone who does not buy exp potions, effectively paying to win. Unless someone is going to claim that levels does not matter in this game.
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Lol, anet care about EARN MONEY. Looks like the gw2 fanboys really believe that they are like saints, is a b2p MMO with cash shop, easy like that. in a p2p mmo u have to pay 15$ but all the updates and new content will be free, in gw2 u have to pay just for everything and the ¨player RMT system¨ lol, is just full of win. The people who spend more money in a month will have more gold, and more things faster than any other players in the game. Thats the price u have to pay in a F2P game, like GW2.
This.
Anet does RMT and all of a sudden - RMT IS AWESOME!!
Hype train -> Reality
You people really need to stop pretending this game doesnt employ a carrot-on-a-stick approach. The carrots are still there, they just dont provide a statistical advantage. Thats it.
There will still be plenty of E-peen items to be had that you cant get unless you actually have the skill to acquire them. That is unless enough casuals whine and get ArenaNet to allow everything to be MT'd, in which case a large chunk of the playerbase (competitive gamers) will just up and leave.
name a popular game I cant buy gold from a farmer to get the most stuff already? The main difference is how someone else levels up or how fast doesn't effect anyone else. PvP is auto level 80. The best gear in the game is not bought with gold. So what's the point?
Why would I (a competitive PvPer) give two shits about casuals spending their own money to look like me? Why would this make me leave the game again? Please....enlighten me.
I'm planning on doing mad spending in the cash shop and don't expect to gain anything but cool (looking) armor and other neat stuff they will have.
Anyone that has even loosely following this game should realize they aren't selling anything that will make you more powerful. I think its just trolling and haters trying to spread negative rumors about the game.
For instance, was telling a guy from work that I know is a fellow gamer about GW2 (hes playing SWTOR) and he said "Oh that wont even be an MMO, its just a hub game, my whole guild was talking about how its going to suck"... see what I mean.
BTW I did set the record straight with the guy.
Here's the dirty secret about "P2W" that has been proven by a few less scrupulous Studios out there with invasive Datamining: People who use Forums or other media outlets the most, also account for 10x the average rate of Microtransaction Purchasers in any given User Base.
IOW: the people who complain the loudest about it, also secretly BUY THAT CRAP the most, especially if there's any perception that it will indeed give an in-game advantage. The "social peacock" or Aesthetics purchaser only makes up a tiny percentage of that Demo. The largest possible target Demo for all Cash-Shop is those players who are only looking for a small gameplay Advantage over everyone else. If the advantage is either too large or too aesthetic they will be typically not buy it unless the Aesthetic itself also offers a competitive advantage by causing opponents to "lag". (IE: oversized crap with too many particle emitters).