Except no one can say for sure right now that it will only be vanity items (and account based stuff like character slots ect). Anet left themselves enough wiggle room in the wording that the cash shop could still include everything making this chart wrong and pointless.
Except no one can say for sure right now that it will only be vanity items (and account based stuff like character slots ect). Anet left themselves enough wiggle room in the wording that the cash shop could still include everything making this chart wrong and pointless.
This, the ability of fans to blind themselves to reality never fails to amaze. No one knows what will be in the shop and how it will work, yet people are happy to make sweeping statements that everything is perfect and if you don't agree you are a "hater"
based on what is already known, this flow chart is dead on accurate.
Everyone who thinks you can buy karma items with gold are going by this one statement in a preview blog.
Well, have no fear because the most rewarding NPCs will, as an alternative, also sell their services for some gold if you haven’t developed your personality or earned enough karma.
Sorry to say, but if you watch any of the beta videos or read Anet's discussions on updtaes, that was all changed. The only vendors that sell karma items for gold are low level npc's.
This video is of all high end content, and even the prices were not set yet, but gold was NOT an option to purchase Karma items of any value.
So if we can get Gems by playing then why can't we sell gems back at pawnshop prices? I see the gold farmers still exploiting this system. They will undercut the Anet Gem price.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Can't you trade supplies you gather in WvWvW on the marketplace?
And you're missing the line from marketplace to upgrades...
Most important.... Upgrades have an easy attainable max level. Which is very importabt for the game system not to unballance the game. Winning battles is not about gear at all, but all about playerskills.
For the rest of it your drawing is very clear.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I don't believe that chart is complete. A few arrows are missing, that market place sells items that let people get items that enhance gameplay in pvp and pve.
As others have said, its missing the arrow from the marketplace to upgrades. You can buy equivalent gear using gold as using Karma and Glory. But obviously those two will have unique appearances.
Originally posted by Demogorgon That chart doesn't show that most of the stuff you can get with karma can also be bought with coins. Just saying...
I haven't heard this. I thought items purchased with Karma could ONLY be purchased with Karma. Has ANet or the press confirmed this?
"But what if you dont want to read flowery language and pick from a lot of dialog? What if you just want to simply kill everything and hand in some heads for a reward? No problem! We understand that not everyone wants to hone their interpersonal skills with NPC banter, but we recognize they dont want to miss out on all the benefits either. Well, have no fear because the most rewarding NPCs will, as an alternative, also sell their services for some gold if you havent developed your personality or earned enough karma. And if you truly dont want to be bothered reading at all, we make clear the shortest path through a conversation so you can get back to the fighting."
Except no one can say for sure right now that it will only be vanity items (and account based stuff like character slots ect). Anet left themselves enough wiggle room in the wording that the cash shop could still include everything making this chart wrong and pointless.
This, the ability of fans to blind themselves to reality never fails to amaze. No one knows what will be in the shop and how it will work, yet people are happy to make sweeping statements that everything is perfect and if you don't agree you are a "hater"
That works the other way around too. People shouting P2W without any real evidence and calling everyone that disagrees fanboys.
That chart doesn't show that most of the stuff you can get with karma can also be bought with coins.
Just saying...
I haven't heard this. I thought items purchased with Karma could ONLY be purchased with Karma. Has ANet or the press confirmed this?
"But what if you don’t want to read flowery language and pick from a lot of dialog? What if you just want to simply kill everything and hand in some heads for a reward? No problem! We understand that not everyone wants to hone their interpersonal skills with NPC banter, but we recognize they don’t want to miss out on all the benefits either. Well, have no fear because the most rewarding NPCs will, as an alternative, also sell their services for some gold if you haven’t developed your personality or earned enough karma. And if you truly don’t want to be bothered reading at all, we make clear the shortest path through a conversation so you can get back to the fighting."
Note it says" most rewarding"
Note that hes talking about developing your "personality" in dialog choices, which can affect how NPCs react to you:
"...a norn mercenary who likes your style and decides to follow you exclusively for a while..."
"...you might talk a farmer into parting with some strength-granting pies, or you may even meet a local dignitary who offers to double your experience gain or boost your speed for a short time."
"...farmer who is willing to give you a jar of bees to throw at your enemies."
Its not like its any epic gear vendors they talk about, but that jar of bees you can throw on someone sure sounds imba. Dont worry though, it will surely get nerfed. So apparantly you could just buy that jar of bees instead of bothering with pesky dialog.
Note that the article is from august 2 years ago as well, just saying considering their infamous scrap-and-remake process.
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basically saying : we seek out gems to make us prettier and nothing else.And i love how they call it gem
fail chart
QFT
that was a productive and comprehensive comment, thanks for enlightening us DB.
So coins will have zero impact on either supplies, upgrades or W v W v W in general? You're quite sure about that?
Except no one can say for sure right now that it will only be vanity items (and account based stuff like character slots ect). Anet left themselves enough wiggle room in the wording that the cash shop could still include everything making this chart wrong and pointless.
I haven't heard this. I thought items purchased with Karma could ONLY be purchased with Karma. Has ANet or the press confirmed this?
I haven't heard this. I thought items purchased with Karma could ONLY be purchased with Karma. Has ANet or the press confirmed this?
based on what is already known, this flow chart is dead on accurate.
Everyone who thinks you can buy karma items with gold are going by this one statement in a preview blog.
Well, have no fear because the most rewarding NPCs will, as an alternative, also sell their services for some gold if you haven’t developed your personality or earned enough karma.
http://www.arena.net/blog/personality-in-guild-wars-2
Which was posted in Aug of 2010
Sorry to say, but if you watch any of the beta videos or read Anet's discussions on updtaes, that was all changed. The only vendors that sell karma items for gold are low level npc's.
This video is of all high end content, and even the prices were not set yet, but gold was NOT an option to purchase Karma items of any value.
http://youtu.be/xOrvV0rKGKw
So if we can get Gems by playing then why can't we sell gems back at pawnshop prices? I see the gold farmers still exploiting this system. They will undercut the Anet Gem price.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Can't you trade supplies you gather in WvWvW on the marketplace?
And you're missing the line from marketplace to upgrades...
Most important.... Upgrades have an easy attainable max level. Which is very importabt for the game system not to unballance the game. Winning battles is not about gear at all, but all about playerskills.
For the rest of it your drawing is very clear.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Good chart I guess.
Anet should make a chart like this to clear things up a bit
That chart does make it crystal clear.
Wow, I hate to see the legalized inflation on the AH.....Real money=coin to spend on AH
Sic Luceat Lux
It's a good start, but it's incomplete. I think I can hear a thousand photoshop clicks as I'm typing this.
It needs a gold farmer box.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Pretty much.
"Convenience" stuff for one.
(Which happens to be an awfully wide category governing toilet paper as well as 300 ft yachts).
My brand new bloggity blog.
As others have said, its missing the arrow from the marketplace to upgrades. You can buy equivalent gear using gold as using Karma and Glory. But obviously those two will have unique appearances.
I haven't heard this. I thought items purchased with Karma could ONLY be purchased with Karma. Has ANet or the press confirmed this?
Pretty much.
"Convenience" stuff for one.
(Which happens to be an awfully wide category governing toilet paper as well as 300 ft yachts).
That works the other way around too. People shouting P2W without any real evidence and calling everyone that disagrees fanboys.
Note that hes talking about developing your "personality" in dialog choices, which can affect how NPCs react to you:
"...a norn mercenary who likes your style and decides to follow you exclusively for a while..."
"...you might talk a farmer into parting with some strength-granting pies, or you may even meet a local dignitary who offers to double your experience gain or boost your speed for a short time."
"...farmer who is willing to give you a jar of bees to throw at your enemies."
Its not like its any epic gear vendors they talk about, but that jar of bees you can throw on someone sure sounds imba. Dont worry though, it will surely get nerfed. So apparantly you could just buy that jar of bees instead of bothering with pesky dialog.
Note that the article is from august 2 years ago as well, just saying considering their infamous scrap-and-remake process.
http://www.arena.net/blog/personality-in-guild-wars-2