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Mittani must go.
I feel compassion for the Mittani because he has made his real name and appearance public. I suspect he will have to change his real name, because if any prospective employer Googles his name, I doubt they would want to employ him.
So it is in the Mittani's best interests to leave Eve and put the whole thing behind him.
Around the time when he gives out personal information about the other player's private life or did you think that personal information is only the person's real name and where they live? It's also that, but it's so many other things too, it covers everything about the person at the keyboard and nothing about the person's toon floating around in space.
"Lectroids? Planet 10? Nuclear extortion? A girl named "John"?
Humm, I forsee CCP in the Ocean and Lawyers circleing. Let the Suites begin. The Goon Squad leader may have steped in it also.
MAGA
How about actually helping me out instead of just talking like you do?
Only thing I could find was this:
"If you want the person to go kill himself his name is ****", I didn't see anything else.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/personal-information.html Wouldn't say its everything about a person but rather information making it possible to identify a person.
GoonSwarm. That is all you need to know to know that he is a scum bag.
My theme song.
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oh yeah...and
THIS!
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When Perpetuum went live, I subbed. I applied for membership to 3 corps. I knew nothing of Goonswarm from eve.
But I found out really fast. There is a corp there (At the time anyway) called Menace to society. They were Goonswarm rejects. They were trying to emulate Goonswarm in this new EVE Clone.
Before I could be admitted to the corp, I had to log into Vent and wait for an interview.
The interview consisted of :
(the censored represent African Americans, Homosexuals and the Jewish but this is a direct quote and I cannot repeat it here.)
"you are put in a room with a [N-Word] and a [G-word] and a [J-Word] You are given a pistol with one bullet. What would you do?
The correct answer for admission to M2S was....you guessed it...Shoot someone.
And for the record, I was not admitted to M2S
He should have all of his items and wealth on his character confiscated and distributed to his subordinates in game, then they should ban his character and ban him from creating any new accounts in EVE. That would send a clear message that CPP cares about the in-game losers as much as the in-game winners.
I am betting right this very moment he's "sheltering" his wealth among those he trusts.
Should he get banned, H'ell just come back as a "noob"
Like GS never did that beofre
Here's the thing. I can see CCP banning this guy to curb a PR disaster.
Once they can say "we perma-banned him" they can say they did what they could.
If he comes back under an alias, CCP won't care they can feign ignrance.
I am not sure if there are laws that can apply to him in regards to Cyber bullying. I can only hope there is.
That would be poetic if he's brought up on charges.
And even if it's a hoax, which I must say, in all likelyhood, it probably is.
He went too far to ecourage that type of behavior in public as acceptable even if the victim was fictional.
I can tell you that this is not the first time this has happened in EVE Online, but usually it's on a much smaller scale. A large part of the EVE community are simply there because their behavior is not tolerated elsewhere.
My sister of 13 years old loves Star Wars and Star Trek. She's a bit of tomboy, so one day when she saw me playing EVE, she wanted to try. She started a toon and played for a couple of months - we made a corp together just so her and I could play while I was deployed in Iraq. Well some pirate tried to flip my can and I didn't fall for it, I also told her to be careful of that trick. He got mad and started saying nasty things to us. I asked him to please stop because my sister was only 13 years old, and he started saying it more, calling her a "c-nt" and a "sl-t" and telling her to ... you get the picture. We blocked him but he made new characters.
I reported him to CCP. After a week we got no reply to our petition. We wardecced us and sent me a message calling me a crybaby and taddle tale. CCP never replied to our petition, but apparently someone at CCP told him about it. What ensued was 3 weeks that we could not play the game because she was only 1 month old and he was flying T2 ships with 10 other people. I petitioned CCP again about the harassment and they completely glossed over it and gave me a stock "wardeccing is a valid game mechanic".
Our issue never got resolved until 1.5 months when he got bored and left us alone. CCP never punished or did anything to this player - CCP took his side and enabled him to harass us and sexually harass my sister.
This sort of thing is commonplace in EVE, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Now that EVE is becoming more popular, CCP is finally started to see what it's like to run a legitimate gaming business. EVE has a bad enough reputation as it is, and CCP is doing what it can to tweak game mechanics to make it more "user friendly". This Mittani thing couldn't have come at a worse time for CCP. I don't know how that guy ever became CSM - he is obviously not a good person and Goons only exist, admittedly, to harass and harm other players. CCP is just going to have to change the schtick or watch their subscription numbers dwindle even more than it already has been.
If it's true and not a GS ploy then I sense a special election for an open seat....
From what he said and put on the overhead I was able to gather the highlighted about the player from the definition that you provided:
Recorded information about an identifiable individual that may include his or her (1) name, address, email address, phone number, (2) race, nationality, ethnicity, origin, color, religious or political beliefs or associations, (3) age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, (4) identifying number, code, symbol, (5) finger prints, blood type, inherited characteristics, (6) health care history including information on physical/mental disability, (7) educational, financial, criminal, employment history, (8) others' opinion about the individual, and (9) personal views except those about other individuals.
Now let's read the rule again:
3) You may not post or communicate any real life information about other players.
"Lectroids? Planet 10? Nuclear extortion? A girl named "John"?
The mitanni has made a public appology to go on the forums
#1 Posted: 2012.03.27 00:09
This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.
Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.
Christ.
I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.
I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.
If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.
Please remember this is the goons so take this with a whole salt shakers worth of salt as to weather it is serious/meaningful or not.
Into the breach meatbags
i'm still confused. what does this have to do with mars again?
It "mars" the fanfest. Like...how do I explain.
It....dirties it. When you mar something you blemish it. Here maybe this will help.
mar [m??]
vb mars, marring, marred
(tr) to cause harm to; spoil or impair
n a disfiguring mark; blemish
Dont worry man, I had the same reaction. Mars? In EvE? But but.....thats in another part of the galaxy and...ummm.
Exactly
Answer: I would aim for your crotch and attempt to rob you of your tiny man hood. Did I win? Did I get the answer right? OH PLEASE TELL ME I DID!
you think i'm an aeroplane, don't you, mike?
goonsquad.
basically explains the whole problem
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
If you have ever played EVE you know this type of behavior is not uncommon. In fact I would go so far to say that it is actually condoned by CCP(despite their saying otherwise) and many of players that play the game.
So instead of actually showing me where the fuck he says this you are just gonna keep on going like a train? Ignoring my actualy question? Cool.
Or are you just trying to bait me? Either way I think I'm done TRYING to ask you.
It's not common, hardly even in comparison to other games. The only thing is that EVE players generally tend to play the game a bit harder than others by trying to really crush the ones they can ingame. Out of game? No, not so much. He even posted an apology.
Myself I haven't found a bad player in EVE yet, I got killed when I was at war but thats how the game works. Who said games are supposed to be risk free? Its only MMORPGs nowadays that are pathetic in the sense that there is not much GAME left.
I was truly dumbfounded. I didn't know what to say.
I was lost for words on 2 levels.
1. Are you so twisted that you pose a socially unacceptable REAL LIFE scenario to gague a player...Meaning a loss of separation?
2. It's a catch 22 because you know dam well this was a real life hypothetical situation, anyone who answered "correctly" is a liar.
Yeah, I'd post that too if I risked a perma-ban.
Open-PVP, not just EVE, often attracts people I'd never want to associate with. It is all about game mechanics and the ABILITY of people to discern what IS or IS NOT allowed. If something can happen it usually will. That in no way should be the reason why someone takes extreme measure OUTSIDE OF GAME. If people are that emotionally invested (on both sides) then they should not be playing THAT game.
Let's party like it is 1863!
you might say that as long as "whatever happens in EVE, stays in EVE" holds true, sure. few people in EVE care if you lose a ship, ISK, cargo, skill points, you name it. it's part of the game. people will offer both advice and laugh at you, sometimes at the same time.
but when someone threatens will RL harm, it's entirely different story. people have been banned for this. anyone that doesn't get importance of separating in-game and out-of-game should be put in place.