If you played Shadowbane and said it ruined you for other games I'd agree. Terra? Hardly.
The one good thing I can say about Terra is that they processed my refund within just a few hours.
Shadowbane? You liked bugs terrible unbalanced classes desync issues and lag? Guessing you logged into tera saw there was an exclamation mark over an npcs head and logged out, hipster mmoer.
Tera doesn't have the most awesome featurelist out of MMOs coming out, but after playing four CBT events, nothing else seems to compare.
I recently tried RaiderZ and Dragon Nest (both frequently mentioned F2P comparisons), along with Path of Exile, and another mmo (in CBT with NDA). But I can't stand playing these games more than an hour before they bore me to tears. I can't seem to capture the same excitement I had playing TERA or same awe when looking around the world. I can't even imagine playing SWTOR anymore. The combat is just so lackluster, and I don't feel like I'm constantly fighting for my life. I can't describe the feeling I had when I took down my first basilisk and barely backstepped out of the way as he charged me. It was crazy exciting. Fun is an understatement.
Now, I'm wary that TERA may be ONLY combat, which sucks because eventually I do get tired of playing. After several hours, my hands feel worn and I feel drained. But then if I play any other MMORPGs, they just aren't satisfying viscerally. It's an awkward place to be. I hope they add more to the crafting system and add some fluff features like fishing etc.
BTW: This is not an April Fools Troll.
combat is good but that being the only redeeming quality of the game, sorry not interested. It takes more then combat to satisfy me, it's gotta be a more improved everything for an experience to keep me. Especially if they are asking a monthly fee. They better make it the second coming for a monthly fee imo. The old models are dead. Don't wish anything bad to happen to the company but i suspect they won't have many subs for an extended period considering the economy and other games showing the way to do it with high profits without the need for a subscription model AT ALL.
Good thing it's not it's only redeeming quality, and complaining about the old gaming models you have a guild wars 2 fanboy sig. Ironic much?
name one thing that's different then the old model? LFD LFG Dungeon treadmill running back to the quest givers to turn in the stuff? what?
Well, it depends on what you mean by Old model. By old model do you mean WoW? I imagine that to be the benchmark that MMO's nowadays go with, so if that is what you mean then yes, Tera is very different. Think about it this way, quests and "dungeon treadmills" to what you are referring to are two of the many content that Tera has (There's some differences, but I'll give you these two.) obviously if you focus on these two aspects it would seem very much Like WoW, however, for the rest of the People who have experienced Ktera and the Tera Closed beta weekends, there is more to it then just those two aspects.
Combat system is the one you want to start with. This affects every aspect of pvp, Duels, Deathmatches, World Pvp, Guild Vs Guild, and in the near future Battlegrounds and Server vs Sever.
The Political system is something only 2 MMOs have tried before, maybe 3 if you count ShadowBane back in the day, you can read about this anywhere, that's a lot of content, and along with Guild housing in the future, it's gonna something a lot of people will enjoy.
Dark crevices, although nothing new only 2 other MMOs have done this, just watch some youtube videos on that in your own time, and again, they're fun. I personally cannot wait to see the Dark crevices during Guild vs Guild, it's gonna get nasty and dramatic.
Now this is a biggie, enchanting, major cause of drama...some people like the Grind some don't. Thank goodness we are not getting the grind since EME changed this for NA Tera. Consequently, very different than the WoW model.
This are just a few things Tera has that is much different than WoW (or MMO model how u describe it). Just remember, it is not bad to keep some of the old content, it is bad if an MMO keeps the old content and doesn't improve upon it. WoW is the same as Everquest, but improved the content and therefore it is 10 million strong now. Ultimately, and I said this before, it is the content that will make people come back. GW2 and Tera will have their fanbase, but these two MMOs have to adequately improve their content fairly fast to be interesting...I support Tera with a Monthly subscription because they know content and have proven it in Korea. Ktera was crap at the beggining, now it is more stable and has improved drastically. Hell, lots of Americans still play it, just watch Steparu, that guy has 3 Level 60s and plays the hell ouf of the game...
Now see that's an informed response. I have four things i'd like to know, does it force pvp upon you like other sandbox games have in the past?
And, does it offer more pve content other then grinding? (I'm specifically talking about solo duo dungeons like LOTRO Rift) with a currency that can be used for any number of things other then gear, like recipes, mass production recipes etc.
Does it have other activities like fishing for something other then trophies or for food? I loved fishing in WoW but often wished to find more things then fish and grey useless items. I tried fishing in LOTRO got really far with it only to find things only for the house. Does it have minipet taming or anything like it?
I don't like Sector because of his obsession with the game. Just check his post history. I strongly believe it's someone with a personal agenda or worse. Someone being paid to campaign against TERA. No one is that obsessed with a game and convincing others that they are right.
WizGamer, the more I play the more I like it. My friend who got to 32 this past weekend playing the betas casually said "I like the game a lot. But it's too easy." While making large pulls on his zerker or going against BAMs. I was working on a second toon, trying to catch up to him when in the party I see him starting to die a lot lol. I asked him "I thought you said the game was easy Y u no live?!" He replied that the mobs were getting smarter and faster he he. I was happy to read that.
The glyph system makes me want to level up more. I have certain glyphs purchased that I want to activate. My personal play style. I like that. As a sorc I play it safe so that will be reflected in my choices. Dying is a no-no as I have some nice crystals I'd hate to lose! But it happens and it's really a punishment. Unless I go cheap and only go for vendor bought crystals...but I'd be gimping myself.
I love running out of the city to other zones without a single loading screen. Why? Because I fricking can I was able to climb hills/mountains and jump over to other zones. Which tells me high walls or mountains were a design choice. To see more from the zone I'm in and not just a cop out. Weird game.
It isn't all rosy but what I do like outweighs what I don't. While that is the case, I'll keep playing. No game...NO game is 100% to your liking. Don't fall prey to hype.
Now see that's an informed response. I have three things i'd like to know, does it force pvp upon you like other sandbox games have in the past?
And, does it offer more pve content other then grinding? (I'm specifically talking about solo duo dungeons like LOTRO Rift) with a currency that can be used for any number of things other then gear, like recipes, mass production recipes etc.
Does it have other activities like fishing for something other then trophies or for food? I loved fishing in WoW but often wished to find more things then fish and grey useless items. I tried fishing in LOTRO got really far with it only to find things only for the house. Does it have minipet taming or anything like it?
If you enter a pve server then "no" it doesn't "force" pvp on you.
Please keep in mind that this isn't exactly a sandbox game. I woudl say, other than the ffa pvp on pvp servers and the player interaction this will cause (guild wars, guild drama, fighitng for resources, etc) that it's a standard themepark game.
If you use the pvp serer the you will be ganked at some point. Hasn't happened to me yet but it will at some point I'm sure.
The pve content ranges from horribly mundane (quests) to the BAM fights (which I find fun) which are the huge monster fights. There are also dungeons you can run and eventually some sort of rift like system but I'm unusre if that's pve or pvp.
Doesn't have mini-pet taming or fishing.
The way I look at Tera is that it's sort of a proof of concept mmo that will build on itself over time. For those who like ffa pvp it could be a lot of fun. And for those who really enjoy the combat style, the same.
If you are looking for an old school mmo that has fishing and planting crops, etc, I would look toward ArcheAge.
This is not to say that Tera won't have fishing but It seems that' it's more about the combat. Which to me is fine but won't appeal to others.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
If you played Shadowbane and said it ruined you for other games I'd agree. Terra? Hardly.
The one good thing I can say about Terra is that they processed my refund within just a few hours.
Shadowbane? You liked bugs terrible unbalanced classes desync issues and lag? Guessing you logged into tera saw there was an exclamation mark over an npcs head and logged out, hipster mmoer.
Did I say that? I don't think I did. You don't know what I liked about Shadowbane. You don't know how long I played Shadowbane. You don't even know much about Shadowbane from what I can tell. You didn't play SB, or didn't play it long. The most accurate thing about your abbreviated post is the hipster ad hominem. That's about right. I look down my nose at every game since Shadowbane, as do most all of the players who ever actually played in a real seige of another guild's city and burned it to the ground. But hey, you've got an opinion. That's unique.
SB had bad bugs early on, but even with those bugs, it was amazing. The bugs and lag went away. Money would have made the game better. Updated server architecture would have made the game better. It was amazing the way it was.
Search any legit gaming forum, ask any real old school gamer (who actually enjoys PvP), read what the players who actually pleyed SB for any length of time say about the game, and you still won't be able to understand why no other game has come close to the thrill that game engendered. It quite literally, ruined gaming for a lot of gamers. It was that good.
For anyone who didn't have the pleasure, this is a good, recent read on the most ambitious and addictive game ever created:
No matter how you slice it, Terra is a boring, grindy, pointless game designed for the lowest common denominator. It happens that there are quite a few people who belong to that group.
I hear you OP! Surprised the hell out of me too, but I have really enjoyed my time with TERA. I playing Dragon Nest at the moment to hold me over, and it's actually a great little game! Action combat 4TW!
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
If you played Shadowbane and said it ruined you for other games I'd agree. Terra? Hardly.
The one good thing I can say about Terra is that they processed my refund within just a few hours.
good thing you got a refund for Terra. that game must suck :P oh, hey you should try Tera Online, good game...
Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man.
Seriously? Your "defense" of Terra is "nuh uh?"
Psst ... buddy, several of my guild members pre-ordered the game, wanted to like it, hated it, and got a refund. What a genuine {insert word that will get me a warning here}.
For your curiosity, this is what En Masse says in their (admittedly professional and prompt) refund emails:
" GM Cade said... 03/13/2012 08:01 PM
Charles,
I understand and would be more than happy to help you out. As you requested I have initiated a refund of your order #************, which may take up to 72 hours to complete. If you have any additional questions or concerns in the meantime, don't hesitate to ask! Have a great evening, and take care.
Respectfully,
Chris "Cade"
EME Customer Support - Specialist
** OUR STAFF WILL NEVER ASK FOR YOUR PASSWORD **
** Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe**"
The game blows big ones /genious. I think you'll enjoy it.
Now see that's an informed response. I have four things i'd like to know, does it force pvp upon you like other sandbox games have in the past?
Yes if you roll on a pvp server then pvp will be forced upon you, that's the way it works.
And, does it offer more pve content other then grinding? (I'm specifically talking about solo duo dungeons like LOTRO Rift) with a currency that can be used for any number of things other then gear, like recipes, mass production recipes etc.
Yes Tera has lots of open world dungeons that can be solo'ed or with a duo, even bams can be solo'ed or with a smaller party. Food recipes NO. Campfire crafting in the open world YES along with your usual armor, weapon, pot crafting in the main cities.
Does it have other activities like fishing for something other then trophies or for food? I loved fishing in WoW but often wished to find more things then fish and grey useless items. I tried fishing in LOTRO got really far with it only to find things only for the house. Does it have minipet taming or anything like it?
NO tera does not have fishing nor does it have mini pets.
edited: for counting.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I don't like Sector because of his obsession with the game. Just check his post history. I strongly believe it's someone with a personal agenda or worse. Someone being paid to campaign against TERA. No one is that obsessed with a game and convincing others that they are right.
Too bad no one cares what you think or believe. Would you feel better if I bash GW2 instead? Of course you would, cause you only care cause I am saying stuff about a game you like. Also, even if this was a personal agenda or a paid campaign, would that change anything? Nope, I'm still just a guy on the internet with an opinion that rattles your cage cause its about something you like. Well, too bad.
Now see that's an informed response. I have four things i'd like to know, does it force pvp upon you like other sandbox games have in the past?
And, does it offer more pve content other then grinding? (I'm specifically talking about solo duo dungeons like LOTRO Rift) with a currency that can be used for any number of things other then gear, like recipes, mass production recipes etc.
Does it have other activities like fishing for something other then trophies or for food? I loved fishing in WoW but often wished to find more things then fish and grey useless items. I tried fishing in LOTRO got really far with it only to find things only for the house. Does it have minipet taming or anything like it?
edited: for counting.
Ok, that's a lot of questions but I will try to answer what I can
Tera has seperate servers, pvp and pve, therefore if you chose pve, pvp will not be forced upon you. As a matter of fact, the only ways you can pvp in a pve server is from dueling, Deathmatches, Battlegrounds (delayed till August) and Guild vs Guild (server vs server also in the future.) If you roll in a pvp server you will be killed after level 11 by pvp'ers, many times plus all of the above ways to pvp and if a political leader decides to make their lands Pvp, well then that area you will be forced to fight others.
As far as Pve content goes, you get your instances started at level 20, but I must stress...Pve really starts with your first BAM, big Ass monster. These are the elite mobs that are all over the open world that you can solo but usually need a group to be on the safe side. If anything, it is because of BAMs that people get hooked on Tera, it is the best use of their action combat that they have always talked about since the start. There's more pve, a lot more, like Dark Crevices aka Rifts in RIFT, but if I go on, this would be way too long.
Your question about duo'ing instances and other Pve content is a big fat yes. the mobs, whether they are elite, named or bosses will never have a guaranteed hit on you, therefore you can dodge all you want, move away from their attacks all you want and effectively two-man them IF you have the time and skills.
Currency is funny in Tera. There's so much of it but people still run out because there's so many uses for it. Enchanting, sealing and unsealing, Dye system, reskinning armor, potions, crafting and much more....recently the pet system in Tera was removed, it's not the typical pet system we know, it was more of a Korean private shop kinda thing and they are pretty much have taken that away. But if you like collecting pets, there's a massive amount of horses, panthers and lions you can buy and ride on.
If you played Shadowbane and said it ruined you for other games I'd agree. Terra? Hardly.
The one good thing I can say about Terra is that they processed my refund within just a few hours.
good thing you got a refund for Terra. that game must suck :P oh, hey you should try Tera Online, good game...
Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man.
Seriously? Your "defense" of Terra is "nuh uh?"
Psst ... buddy, several of my guild members pre-ordered the game, wanted to like it, hated it, and got a refund. What a genuine {insert word that will get me a warning here}.
For your curiosity, this is what En Masse says in their (admittedly professional and prompt) refund emails:
" GM Cade said... 03/13/2012 08:01 PM
Charles,
I understand and would be more than happy to help you out. As you requested I have initiated a refund of your order #************, which may take up to 72 hours to complete. If you have any additional questions or concerns in the meantime, don't hesitate to ask! Have a great evening, and take care.
Respectfully,
Chris "Cade"
EME Customer Support - Specialist
** OUR STAFF WILL NEVER ASK FOR YOUR PASSWORD **
** Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe**"
The game blows big ones /genious. I think you'll enjoy it.
Trust me, I didn't say I didn't believe you in getting a refund, it's your money, you do what you want with it. What is funny to me was that you didn't even bother spelling the name right, it's Tera, with one "r", if you didn't mind spelling the game right, you didn't mind trying the game out anyways. It looks like just an afterthought to you, and consequently seems you were setting yourself up to not liking it. You obviously didn't approach it as something you would probably enjoy from the beggining. But hey, more power to you, some people just won't like Tera. I for one, love it and I am having a blast with my brother and Girlfriend.
Alls I did was come on here and mention about the Honeymoon effect and fans jumped on my case. That says more about TERA fans being overly protective then it does about me. Anyone whose played MMOs in the last few years would know about that. It's not something I made up to bash TERA. So, no idea how that makes me a shill.
Not being overly protective, most of us have been very up front about tera (the good and not so good). We have stated over and over that tera is not for everyone (case in point YOU and that other guy that always post here). I've played Tera for over a year now so you really can't say that i'm still in the honeymoon stage now can you?
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
If you played Shadowbane and said it ruined you for other games I'd agree. Terra? Hardly.
The one good thing I can say about Terra is that they processed my refund within just a few hours.
good thing you got a refund for Terra. that game must suck :P oh, hey you should try Tera Online, good game...
Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man.
Seriously? Your "defense" of Terra is "nuh uh?"
Psst ... buddy, several of my guild members pre-ordered the game, wanted to like it, hated it, and got a refund. What a genuine {insert word that will get me a warning here}.
For your curiosity, this is what En Masse says in their (admittedly professional and prompt) refund emails:
" GM Cade said... 03/13/2012 08:01 PM
Charles,
I understand and would be more than happy to help you out. As you requested I have initiated a refund of your order #************, which may take up to 72 hours to complete. If you have any additional questions or concerns in the meantime, don't hesitate to ask! Have a great evening, and take care.
Respectfully,
Chris "Cade"
EME Customer Support - Specialist
** OUR STAFF WILL NEVER ASK FOR YOUR PASSWORD **
** Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe**"
The game blows big ones /genious. I think you'll enjoy it.
Trust me, I didn't say I didn't believe you in getting a refund, it's your money, you do what you want with it. What is funny to me was that you didn't even bother spelling the name right, it's Tera, with one "r", if you didn't mind spelling the game right, you didn't mind trying the game out anyways. It looks like just an afterthought to you, and consequently seems you were setting yourself up tp not liking it. You obviously didn't approach it as something you would probably enjoy from the beggining. But hey, more power to you, some people just won't like Tera. I for one, love it and I am having a blast with my brother and Girlfriend.
Ok. Good gor you, your brother and GF. I hated it, but I didn't want to. As for the reason I believed you were calling me a liar, it's because you called me a liar: "Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man."
I actually assumed (from my HS Latin and Greek) that En Masse (I did not spell check that FYI) took the name from an actual thing, like an ancient goddess:
Rather than a prefix in the international system of measurements ... which makes a TON of sense.
Anyway, don't Hardy Boys my spelling all that much (or the spelling of the En Masse devs for that matter ...)
My crappy spelling aside (or the developers crappy spelling?) I just think the game isn't even a good stop-gap for GW2. Not for my guild anyway. I wish it were.
Tera's combat was pretty awsome, a game that will take me a long time to master in pvp and i like it.
It has some pretty big issues though.
End game voteing i have 0 interest in, just as rl politics it cant be fun for anyone except those that are candidates. It could have been so much better with siege and engaged way more people then the voteing will sadly do.
The power difference by only a few levels was hugh, way to high for a pvp game but ktera didt have the same pvp as us so was never an issue there, but it is a hugh issue with our pvp ruleset.
I had 28 slayer with lvl 27 green gear and i got 1shot or atleast killed in under a second by a level 32 archer, that made me cry a little on the inside. We did bams as a group of 3 level 24 and a 31 warrior tryd to gank us but for some odd reason we managed to kill him(if that was a range char or slayer we would all have died pretty fast). +/- 2 levels was quite adictive in pvp though. Becouse of this i will suck it up and endure it until endgame.
I realy doubt this will be fixed by Enmasse but if they did, it would be a far better pvp game.
All in all i liked this game and will play it for a short while atleast, i doubt this game will hold me long term sadly but i will realy enjoy it while it last. I hope to see more action oriented games in the future that will suit me even more.
I don't like Sector because of his obsession with the game. Just check his post history. I strongly believe it's someone with a personal agenda or worse. Someone being paid to campaign against TERA. No one is that obsessed with a game and convincing others that they are right.
Too bad no one cares what you think or believe. Would you feel better if I bash GW2 instead? Of course you would, cause you only care cause I am saying stuff about a game you like. Also, even if this was a personal agenda or a paid campaign, would that change anything? Nope, I'm still just a guy on the internet with an opinion that rattles your cage cause its about something you like. Well, too bad.
Look at the thread, look at the overwhelming number of people who don't value your opinion. You are most likely a shill.
Alls I did was come on here and mention about the Honeymoon effect and fans jumped on my case. That says more about TERA fans being overly protective then it does about me. Anyone whose played MMOs in the last few years would know about that. It's not something I made up to bash TERA. So, no idea how that makes me a shill.
i don't like your prodigious anti-Tera posts either. or any person who constantly rails on ANY game.
i'm not a Tera fanboy. i think its an important game, but i hate all the rooting stopping my movements all the time. to me its not a real action game because of that, altho its a cut above the standard MMORPG combat, and it DOES take real life skills unlike them.
but fanboys are alot easier to take. they are just people loving a game. totally normal. but flamboys like you, who appear to LIVE for flaming a game in every thread about it (and i don't even read this site that much, but seems like i've seen you post some nonsense in EVERY single Tera thread), seem to either be paid by some competing company, or have..... life imbalances. hating so much is a sickness.
name one thing that's different then the old model? LFD LFG Dungeon treadmill running back to the quest givers to turn in the stuff? what?
Sounds like you are talking about gw2 not TERA
LMAO wtf ever dude, no point having an argument with someone who's unarmed. Have fun wasting more monthly fee's tho.
I really can't see the resistance to subs. It's 10-15$ per month, not hundreds. That's nothing to pay for a quality game(which is the real problem as many games aren't as good or ready as they should be at release). But really, thats too much to pay that it is a big deal? I'd much rather a sub and have everything in game and not nickel and dimed by a CS. (which is another problem as new releases seem to be getting away with having both.)
I actually like DDO's way-no pay for game (F2P with restrictions), CS to get restrictions lifted on content/classes + vanity crap, or 10/month sub and get 500pts p/month for CS. Since they went to this model, they have added a ton of content (more than they were with subs only). And sub gets new content w/o extra charge. Even with F2P you could get all content and classes opened for probably $75, and not pay a sub. Very flexible.
As for GW2's model (which I am going to play), I just hope they put a lot of effort into it between expansions.
I don't like Sector because of his obsession with the game. Just check his post history. I strongly believe it's someone with a personal agenda or worse. Someone being paid to campaign against TERA. No one is that obsessed with a game and convincing others that they are right.
Too bad no one cares what you think or believe. Would you feel better if I bash GW2 instead? Of course you would, cause you only care cause I am saying stuff about a game you like. Also, even if this was a personal agenda or a paid campaign, would that change anything? Nope, I'm still just a guy on the internet with an opinion that rattles your cage cause its about something you like. Well, too bad.
Look at the thread, look at the overwhelming number of people who don't value your opinion. You are most likely a shill.
Alls I did was come on here and mention about the Honeymoon effect and fans jumped on my case. That says more about TERA fans being overly protective then it does about me. Anyone whose played MMOs in the last few years would know about that. It's not something I made up to bash TERA. So, no idea how that makes me a shill.
i don't like your prodigious anti-Tera posts either. or any person who constantly rails on ANY game.
i'm not a Tera fanboy. i think its an important game, but i hate all the rooting stopping my movements all the time. to me its not a real action game because of that, altho its a cut above the standard MMORPG combat, and it DOES take real life skills unlike them.
but fanboys are alot easier to take. they are just people loving a game. totally normal. but flamboys like you, who appear to LIVE for flaming a game in every thread about it (and i don't even read this site that much, but seems like i've seen you post some nonsense in EVERY single Tera thread), seem to either be paid by some competing company, or have..... life imbalances. hating so much is a sickness.
Seems to be bothering you more then me. What other excuses are you going to come up with to try and rationalize why someone has a different opinion then you? Sickness ... now that's a funny one. Maybe I should go down as the first person with 'Haters disease'. lol
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Sounds like you are talking about gw2 not TERA
Shadowbane?You liked bugs terrible unbalanced classes desync issues and lag?
Guessing you logged into tera saw there was an exclamation mark over an npcs head and logged out, hipster mmoer.
Sounds like you are talking about gw2 not TERALMAO wtf ever dude, no point having an argument with someone who's unarmed. Have fun wasting more monthly fee's tho.
Have fun paying to win while I don't pay for TERA chronoscrolls ftwJust not worth my time anymore.
Well, it depends on what you mean by Old model. By old model do you mean WoW? I imagine that to be the benchmark that MMO's nowadays go with, so if that is what you mean then yes, Tera is very different. Think about it this way, quests and "dungeon treadmills" to what you are referring to are two of the many content that Tera has (There's some differences, but I'll give you these two.) obviously if you focus on these two aspects it would seem very much Like WoW, however, for the rest of the People who have experienced Ktera and the Tera Closed beta weekends, there is more to it then just those two aspects.
Combat system is the one you want to start with. This affects every aspect of pvp, Duels, Deathmatches, World Pvp, Guild Vs Guild, and in the near future Battlegrounds and Server vs Sever.
The Political system is something only 2 MMOs have tried before, maybe 3 if you count ShadowBane back in the day, you can read about this anywhere, that's a lot of content, and along with Guild housing in the future, it's gonna something a lot of people will enjoy.
Dark crevices, although nothing new only 2 other MMOs have done this, just watch some youtube videos on that in your own time, and again, they're fun. I personally cannot wait to see the Dark crevices during Guild vs Guild, it's gonna get nasty and dramatic.
Now this is a biggie, enchanting, major cause of drama...some people like the Grind some don't. Thank goodness we are not getting the grind since EME changed this for NA Tera. Consequently, very different than the WoW model.
This are just a few things Tera has that is much different than WoW (or MMO model how u describe it). Just remember, it is not bad to keep some of the old content, it is bad if an MMO keeps the old content and doesn't improve upon it. WoW is the same as Everquest, but improved the content and therefore it is 10 million strong now. Ultimately, and I said this before, it is the content that will make people come back. GW2 and Tera will have their fanbase, but these two MMOs have to adequately improve their content fairly fast to be interesting...I support Tera with a Monthly subscription because they know content and have proven it in Korea. Ktera was crap at the beggining, now it is more stable and has improved drastically. Hell, lots of Americans still play it, just watch Steparu, that guy has 3 Level 60s and plays the hell ouf of the game...
good thing you got a refund for Terra. that game must suck :P oh, hey you should try Tera Online, good game...
Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man.
Now see that's an informed response. I have four things i'd like to know, does it force pvp upon you like other sandbox games have in the past?
And, does it offer more pve content other then grinding? (I'm specifically talking about solo duo dungeons like LOTRO Rift) with a currency that can be used for any number of things other then gear, like recipes, mass production recipes etc.
Does it have other activities like fishing for something other then trophies or for food? I loved fishing in WoW but often wished to find more things then fish and grey useless items. I tried fishing in LOTRO got really far with it only to find things only for the house. Does it have minipet taming or anything like it?
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WizGamer, the more I play the more I like it. My friend who got to 32 this past weekend playing the betas casually said "I like the game a lot. But it's too easy." While making large pulls on his zerker or going against BAMs.
I was working on a second toon, trying to catch up to him when in the party I see him starting to die a lot lol. I asked him "I thought you said the game was easy
He replied that the mobs were getting smarter and faster he he. I was happy to read that.
The glyph system makes me want to level up more. I have certain glyphs purchased that I want to activate. My personal play style. I like that. As a sorc I play it safe so that will be reflected in my choices.
Dying is a no-no as I have some nice crystals I'd hate to lose! But it happens and it's really a punishment. Unless I go cheap and only go for vendor bought crystals...but I'd be gimping myself.
I love running out of the city to other zones without a single loading screen. Why? Because I fricking can
I was able to climb hills/mountains and jump over to other zones. Which tells me high walls or mountains were a design choice. To see more from the zone I'm in and not just a cop out. Weird game.
It isn't all rosy but what I do like outweighs what I don't.
While that is the case, I'll keep playing. No game...NO game is 100% to your liking. Don't fall prey to hype.
If you enter a pve server then "no" it doesn't "force" pvp on you.
Please keep in mind that this isn't exactly a sandbox game. I woudl say, other than the ffa pvp on pvp servers and the player interaction this will cause (guild wars, guild drama, fighitng for resources, etc) that it's a standard themepark game.
If you use the pvp serer the you will be ganked at some point. Hasn't happened to me yet but it will at some point I'm sure.
The pve content ranges from horribly mundane (quests) to the BAM fights (which I find fun) which are the huge monster fights. There are also dungeons you can run and eventually some sort of rift like system but I'm unusre if that's pve or pvp.
Doesn't have mini-pet taming or fishing.
The way I look at Tera is that it's sort of a proof of concept mmo that will build on itself over time. For those who like ffa pvp it could be a lot of fun. And for those who really enjoy the combat style, the same.
If you are looking for an old school mmo that has fishing and planting crops, etc, I would look toward ArcheAge.
This is not to say that Tera won't have fishing but It seems that' it's more about the combat. Which to me is fine but won't appeal to others.
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Did I say that? I don't think I did. You don't know what I liked about Shadowbane. You don't know how long I played Shadowbane. You don't even know much about Shadowbane from what I can tell. You didn't play SB, or didn't play it long. The most accurate thing about your abbreviated post is the hipster ad hominem. That's about right. I look down my nose at every game since Shadowbane, as do most all of the players who ever actually played in a real seige of another guild's city and burned it to the ground. But hey, you've got an opinion. That's unique.
SB had bad bugs early on, but even with those bugs, it was amazing. The bugs and lag went away. Money would have made the game better. Updated server architecture would have made the game better. It was amazing the way it was.
Search any legit gaming forum, ask any real old school gamer (who actually enjoys PvP), read what the players who actually pleyed SB for any length of time say about the game, and you still won't be able to understand why no other game has come close to the thrill that game engendered. It quite literally, ruined gaming for a lot of gamers. It was that good.
For anyone who didn't have the pleasure, this is a good, recent read on the most ambitious and addictive game ever created:
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/23/the-game-archaeologist-uncovers-shadowbane-talking-with-josef-h/
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/23/the-game-archaeologist-uncovers-shadowbane-talking-with-josef-h/
No matter how you slice it, Terra is a boring, grindy, pointless game designed for the lowest common denominator. It happens that there are quite a few people who belong to that group.
I hear you OP! Surprised the hell out of me too, but I have really enjoyed my time with TERA. I playing Dragon Nest at the moment to hold me over, and it's actually a great little game! Action combat 4TW!
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
Seriously? Your "defense" of Terra is "nuh uh?"
Psst ... buddy, several of my guild members pre-ordered the game, wanted to like it, hated it, and got a refund. What a genuine {insert word that will get me a warning here}.
For your curiosity, this is what En Masse says in their (admittedly professional and prompt) refund emails:
" GM Cade said... 03/13/2012 08:01 PM
Charles,
I understand and would be more than happy to help you out. As you requested I have initiated a refund of your order #************, which may take up to 72 hours to complete. If you have any additional questions or concerns in the meantime, don't hesitate to ask! Have a great evening, and take care.
Respectfully,
Chris "Cade"
EME Customer Support - Specialist
** OUR STAFF WILL NEVER ASK FOR YOUR PASSWORD **
** Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe**"
The game blows big ones /genious. I think you'll enjoy it.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Too bad no one cares what you think or believe. Would you feel better if I bash GW2 instead? Of course you would, cause you only care cause I am saying stuff about a game you like. Also, even if this was a personal agenda or a paid campaign, would that change anything? Nope, I'm still just a guy on the internet with an opinion that rattles your cage cause its about something you like. Well, too bad.
Let's stop baiting each other and insulting each other.
here are the rules of conduct for those of you who have forgotten:
http://www.mmorpg.com/disclaimers.cfm#conduct
It's ok to have differences in opinion, it's not ok to insult people.
Ok, that's a lot of questions but I will try to answer what I can
Tera has seperate servers, pvp and pve, therefore if you chose pve, pvp will not be forced upon you. As a matter of fact, the only ways you can pvp in a pve server is from dueling, Deathmatches, Battlegrounds (delayed till August) and Guild vs Guild (server vs server also in the future.) If you roll in a pvp server you will be killed after level 11 by pvp'ers, many times plus all of the above ways to pvp and if a political leader decides to make their lands Pvp, well then that area you will be forced to fight others.
As far as Pve content goes, you get your instances started at level 20, but I must stress...Pve really starts with your first BAM, big Ass monster. These are the elite mobs that are all over the open world that you can solo but usually need a group to be on the safe side. If anything, it is because of BAMs that people get hooked on Tera, it is the best use of their action combat that they have always talked about since the start. There's more pve, a lot more, like Dark Crevices aka Rifts in RIFT, but if I go on, this would be way too long.
Your question about duo'ing instances and other Pve content is a big fat yes. the mobs, whether they are elite, named or bosses will never have a guaranteed hit on you, therefore you can dodge all you want, move away from their attacks all you want and effectively two-man them IF you have the time and skills.
Currency is funny in Tera. There's so much of it but people still run out because there's so many uses for it. Enchanting, sealing and unsealing, Dye system, reskinning armor, potions, crafting and much more....recently the pet system in Tera was removed, it's not the typical pet system we know, it was more of a Korean private shop kinda thing and they are pretty much have taken that away. But if you like collecting pets, there's a massive amount of horses, panthers and lions you can buy and ride on.
Trust me, I didn't say I didn't believe you in getting a refund, it's your money, you do what you want with it. What is funny to me was that you didn't even bother spelling the name right, it's Tera, with one "r", if you didn't mind spelling the game right, you didn't mind trying the game out anyways. It looks like just an afterthought to you, and consequently seems you were setting yourself up to not liking it. You obviously didn't approach it as something you would probably enjoy from the beggining. But hey, more power to you, some people just won't like Tera. I for one, love it and I am having a blast with my brother and Girlfriend.
Not being overly protective, most of us have been very up front about tera (the good and not so good). We have stated over and over that tera is not for everyone (case in point YOU and that other guy that always post here). I've played Tera for over a year now so you really can't say that i'm still in the honeymoon stage now can you?
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Ok. Good gor you, your brother and GF. I hated it, but I didn't want to. As for the reason I believed you were calling me a liar, it's because you called me a liar: "Love how some people want to prove that they played a game but in reality they didn't at all....not a good way to hate on Tera, man."
I actually assumed (from my HS Latin and Greek) that En Masse (I did not spell check that FYI) took the name from an actual thing, like an ancient goddess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_(mythology) (maybe she has a copyright filing inprogress from a few thousand years ago?)
Rather than a prefix in the international system of measurements ... which makes a TON of sense.
Anyway, don't Hardy Boys my spelling all that much (or the spelling of the En Masse devs for that matter ...)
My crappy spelling aside (or the developers crappy spelling?) I just think the game isn't even a good stop-gap for GW2. Not for my guild anyway. I wish it were.
Tera's combat was pretty awsome, a game that will take me a long time to master in pvp and i like it.
It has some pretty big issues though.
End game voteing i have 0 interest in, just as rl politics it cant be fun for anyone except those that are candidates. It could have been so much better with siege and engaged way more people then the voteing will sadly do.
The power difference by only a few levels was hugh, way to high for a pvp game but ktera didt have the same pvp as us so was never an issue there, but it is a hugh issue with our pvp ruleset.
I had 28 slayer with lvl 27 green gear and i got 1shot or atleast killed in under a second by a level 32 archer, that made me cry a little on the inside. We did bams as a group of 3 level 24 and a 31 warrior tryd to gank us but for some odd reason we managed to kill him(if that was a range char or slayer we would all have died pretty fast). +/- 2 levels was quite adictive in pvp though. Becouse of this i will suck it up and endure it until endgame.
I realy doubt this will be fixed by Enmasse but if they did, it would be a far better pvp game.
All in all i liked this game and will play it for a short while atleast, i doubt this game will hold me long term sadly but i will realy enjoy it while it last. I hope to see more action oriented games in the future that will suit me even more.
Refreshing mmorpg combat for sure
i don't like your prodigious anti-Tera posts either. or any person who constantly rails on ANY game.
i'm not a Tera fanboy. i think its an important game, but i hate all the rooting stopping my movements all the time. to me its not a real action game because of that, altho its a cut above the standard MMORPG combat, and it DOES take real life skills unlike them.
but fanboys are alot easier to take. they are just people loving a game. totally normal. but flamboys like you, who appear to LIVE for flaming a game in every thread about it (and i don't even read this site that much, but seems like i've seen you post some nonsense in EVERY single Tera thread), seem to either be paid by some competing company, or have..... life imbalances. hating so much is a sickness.
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I really can't see the resistance to subs. It's 10-15$ per month, not hundreds. That's nothing to pay for a quality game(which is the real problem as many games aren't as good or ready as they should be at release). But really, thats too much to pay that it is a big deal? I'd much rather a sub and have everything in game and not nickel and dimed by a CS. (which is another problem as new releases seem to be getting away with having both.)
I actually like DDO's way-no pay for game (F2P with restrictions), CS to get restrictions lifted on content/classes + vanity crap, or 10/month sub and get 500pts p/month for CS. Since they went to this model, they have added a ton of content (more than they were with subs only). And sub gets new content w/o extra charge. Even with F2P you could get all content and classes opened for probably $75, and not pay a sub. Very flexible.
As for GW2's model (which I am going to play), I just hope they put a lot of effort into it between expansions.
Seems to be bothering you more then me. What other excuses are you going to come up with to try and rationalize why someone has a different opinion then you? Sickness ... now that's a funny one. Maybe I should go down as the first person with 'Haters disease'. lol