It looks like they are doing this to stop EU players from buying the cheaper US version. But as someone who travels around for work this really fucking annoys me.
Yes we can probably work around it with proxy and VPN, but we shouldn't have to. Region locking is just fucking stupid.
Here is a better idea, dont rip the EU customers off in the first place! Then they will buy the EU version.
Theres a reason why European stuff is more expensive.
On topic though, if you want to do get around it in the first place because of friends or what have you then have them buy you the copy and send you the key/s. simple solutions
See that wouldnt work because if you buy a copy in the US, you have to play from the US. If you buy it in EU, you have to play in EU. Getting someone from another country to send you a copy would be incredibly stupid since you would be region locked from playing it.
If you want to play with people from the US as a EU player you are free to choose a US server / shard. But if you actually travel to the US you can no longer play. So not really a simple solution at all. But it looks like ANet is looking into it thank god. Lets hope they just flush the stupid idea down the toilet.
well looks like it's just another money grapping company with no consideration for their customer's needs.
imo, we should all vote with our wallets there are better stuff out there rather than give them $$$ to push us around.
well looks like it's just another money grapping company with no consideration for their customer's needs.
imo, we should all vote with our wallets there are better stuff out there rather than give them $$$ to push us around.
Well I won't be buying it unless it gets resolved. As someone who travels a lot for work there is no point in buying a game I will only be able to play for 1/4 of a year.
If I have to resort to proxies I probably won't play, as I enjoy PvP and the ping would just be too annoying.
It's not to buy a "cheaper version". Their doing it to help you and them not commit tax fraud.
huh?, arenanet is an american company they developed the s/w in america, pay all the employees in usd, running cost in usd, guess what we are buying a product from them in us and why shouldnt we be allowed to pay in USD????
why are we forced to pay for the middleman when we dont need one????
"Finally, we are aware that a lot of our players travel, and we are looking into a solution for you."
Good to see they are on the ball at least with player complaints.
That's great. But its a little disturbing they apperently didn't realize this could be a problem before now?
just because the techies are gamers, doesn't mean the marketing department do. in fact, that insidious breed only plays games involving live children and stakes, i'm sure of it. and you can bet they had a hand in the decision to lock regions.
This isn't new, though. I've encountered this with WoW like three years back - had nothing to do and wanted to play with an American friend of mine, couldn't do it. Not exactly ANet's fault, but definitely a chance missed.
That is pretty strange, back when I was playing WoW I played on business trips to Thailand, UK and the US with no IP restriction.
Hehehehe....."business trip to thailand"
I went to a financial responsibility seminar in vegas too.
This isn't new, though. I've encountered this with WoW like three years back - had nothing to do and wanted to play with an American friend of mine, couldn't do it. Not exactly ANet's fault, but definitely a chance missed.
That is pretty strange, back when I was playing WoW I played on business trips to Thailand, UK and the US with no IP restriction.
Hehehehe....."business trip to thailand"
I went to a financial responsibility seminar in vegas too.
Hahaha that does sound dodgy now that I think of it. I am actually an Environmental Scientist that remediates contaminated sites, like after oil spills and such. No ladyboy action.
This forum is one of the many place on the internet where if the CEO of Arenanet farted it would generate a 25 page topic about people who aggree with the fart, are against the fart, wonder if the fart is real, if the fart is hyped, will be fart live to it's hype, why that fart is the worst thing that ever happen in the universe history, why this fart is in fact another fart-clone, why this fart will the the ultimate fart killer, if the fart should be free for all to smell or if we should pay every month to enjoye it, why the fart is evil, why the fart is good, why we are at page 13 now and talking about a fart, what was this fart about and finally why this fart fail/win and generated a clash of the nerds for month to come.
And that was just one fart! Now imagine people after a whole digestion period!
+1 internets and a cookie.
on topic or not its funny and i agree (this forum is like a border connecting 30 countrys all at war... over the whether the sun is in fact good.... but some people think the war is actualy about whether the sun exists.... or if its good... no one really knows why it just all sorta happens and people dont bother to untangle it).
This forum is one of the many place on the internet where if the CEO of Arenanet farted it would generate a 25 page topic about people who aggree with the fart, are against the fart, wonder if the fart is real, if the fart is hyped, will be fart live to it's hype, why that fart is the worst thing that ever happen in the universe history, why this fart is in fact another fart-clone, why this fart will the the ultimate fart killer, if the fart should be free for all to smell or if we should pay every month to enjoye it, why the fart is evil, why the fart is good, why we are at page 13 now and talking about a fart, what was this fart about and finally why this fart fail/win and generated a clash of the nerds for month to come.
And that was just one fart! Now imagine people after a whole digestion period!
Does it smell pleasant? Vry good analogy. I upvote. At least, I didn't start the darn threads, lol.
I have to agree with what some others have said, this is another non-issue that people will use to try to stir the pot with. I'm just psyched that there is no region lock on which servers you play on. They've already said they are working on a solution for people who travel between regions. The EU VAT tax situation is probably the reason for this restriction. The work around could just be a mechanism that would check to see that you actually live in the appropriate region, maybe even just requiring that the first log-in be from the appropriate region, or using your credit card verified address for the determination.
Are you people REALLY arguing about REGION LOCKING? Is this the best you can come up with against GW2??
HOW many of you plan on RELOCATING to another friggin COUNTRY???? Not a single one of you, i bet.
BUT, EVEN saying that SOME of you, are going to move to this country or that country, and have the money to DO sucha lifestyle change, AND YET NOT have an extra 60 bucks to just buy the fucking game again to play where you move??? That's
REALLY
Stretching it.
And before we go there with the 'OH i'm a transfer college student' or some bullshit, You STILL should have the money to buy this game again. Or better yet, FOCUS ON COLLEGE numbnuts!!!
Furthermore, wtf did all of you do with console games of Past? I don't remember hearing complaints from rarities that actually did move to another country, but oh snap, an MMO DID IT! RAAAAGE!
For goodness sake people, get a life.
Look at me i can toss around capitalized words and yell at people! Then i ll tell them to get a life too since that is soo cool.
You suggest people who relocate to buy another copy and start over? You need to get a brain.
Not to mention the whole problem of ANET wanting to do esports then shitting on the players just like Blizzard.
Region locking is just corporate BS. Why would any consumer defend this crap? Oh wait... fanbois.
Sure, yeah, call mea fanboi. It doesnt change the fact that this is how shit's been being done FOR YEARS with other gaming avenues. Region Locking is corporate bullshit? For realz? That what ya think? If it WASN'T region locked, then everyone in EU would just buy the NA version for cheaper so they can save some money, which is a CRIME. Learn some things before you talk about them, dude.
I have to agree with what some others have said, this is another non-issue that people will use to try to stir the pot with. I'm just psyched that there is no region lock on which servers you play on. They've already said they are working on a solution for people who travel between regions. The EU VAT tax situation is probably the reason for this restriction. The work around could just be a mechanism that would check to see that you actually live in the appropriate region, maybe even just requiring that the first log-in be from the appropriate region, or using your credit card verified address for the determination.
al qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristOriginally posted by bazak
Originally posted by Toxia
Originally posted by bazak
Originally posted by asianbboy101
bohoho. don't buy the game you whiny babies. Aren't you europeans freeloading enough. You got your high taxes, free healthcare, one stupid euro currency, too many paid vacations, 4-5 days work a week and you guys pissed over one little semantics over a mmo.
OMG again? do any of you people friggen read the OP's post b4 u post?? people like oyu are one of the 3 major problems on this forum.
the problem the OP has is with the fact that if you move to another country and try to log in with the software you bought it wont let you play this is a problem for people who move around a lot (like living in multiple countrys throughought(yes i know i spelt it wrong grammar nazi's, i forgot sue me :P ) the year.
i mean really come on...
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Or, AGAIN, the SAME Thing applies to Console Games. What do you do then, when your region locked PS2 can't play the game you hbuy in another country??What do you? YOU BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE. that costs MORE than buying another copy of Guild Wars 2. If it's FINE for that to happen, then it is just as FINE for a MMO to do it.
i only have one word for you like i said in my response to your actual post... SOLDIERS (among others) they dont pay for their moveing the government does remember sometimes peoples JOB makes them do this not them...
Lazy soldiers? One soldier thinks about playing gw2 in few hours after a night shift and while he aimlessly thinks abouts gw2; he gets shafted by the al qaeda terrorist in the head. soldiers shouldn't be distracted by games when their life is on the line......
"Finally, we are aware that a lot of our players travel, and we are looking into a solution for you."
Good to see they are on the ball at least with player complaints.
sounds like code for: "we're getting ready to stick it to ya."
or do you think that you're really going to beat the system? maybe you might get lucky, and they give you the choice of the sticking options. G-Rated, T for Teen, or UNRATED Edition.
al qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristOriginally posted by bazak
Originally posted by Toxia
Originally posted by bazak
Originally posted by asianbboy101
bohoho. don't buy the game you whiny babies. Aren't you europeans freeloading enough. You got your high taxes, free healthcare, one stupid euro currency, too many paid vacations, 4-5 days work a week and you guys pissed over one little semantics over a mmo.
OMG again? do any of you people friggen read the OP's post b4 u post?? people like oyu are one of the 3 major problems on this forum.
the problem the OP has is with the fact that if you move to another country and try to log in with the software you bought it wont let you play this is a problem for people who move around a lot (like living in multiple countrys throughought(yes i know i spelt it wrong grammar nazi's, i forgot sue me :P ) the year.
i mean really come on...
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Or, AGAIN, the SAME Thing applies to Console Games. What do you do then, when your region locked PS2 can't play the game you hbuy in another country??What do you? YOU BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE. that costs MORE than buying another copy of Guild Wars 2. If it's FINE for that to happen, then it is just as FINE for a MMO to do it.
i only have one word for you like i said in my response to your actual post... SOLDIERS (among others) they dont pay for their moveing the government does remember sometimes peoples JOB makes them do this not them...
Lazy soldiers? One soldier thinks about playing gw2 in few hours after a night shift and while he aimlessly thinks abouts gw2; he gets shafted by the al qaeda terrorist in the head. soldiers shouldn't be distracted by games when their life is on the line......
I'm not pointing this to poilitical, but soldiers move ALL over the world to peaceful countries with "normalish" working hours and plenty of time to hit up GW2.
I think that it is BS but only really if you can't access your characters otherwise it is still BS but just a smaller pile that i could swallow if i do have to travel
al qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terroristal qaeda terrorist(really now? cmon)Originally posted by bazak
Originally posted by Toxia
Originally posted by bazak
Originally posted by asianbboy101
bohoho. don't buy the game you whiny babies. Aren't you europeans freeloading enough. You got your high taxes, free healthcare, one stupid euro currency, too many paid vacations, 4-5 days work a week and you guys pissed over one little semantics over a mmo.
OMG again? do any of you people friggen read the OP's post b4 u post?? people like oyu are one of the 3 major problems on this forum.
the problem the OP has is with the fact that if you move to another country and try to log in with the software you bought it wont let you play this is a problem for people who move around a lot (like living in multiple countrys throughought(yes i know i spelt it wrong grammar nazi's, i forgot sue me :P ) the year.
i mean really come on...
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Or, AGAIN, the SAME Thing applies to Console Games. What do you do then, when your region locked PS2 can't play the game you hbuy in another country??What do you? YOU BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE. that costs MORE than buying another copy of Guild Wars 2. If it's FINE for that to happen, then it is just as FINE for a MMO to do it.
i only have one word for you like i said in my response to your actual post... SOLDIERS (among others) they dont pay for their moveing the government does remember sometimes peoples JOB makes them do this not them...
Lazy soldiers? One soldier thinks about playing gw2 in few hours after a night shift and while he aimlessly thinks abouts gw2; he gets shafted by the al qaeda terrorist in the head. soldiers shouldn't be distracted by games when their life is on the line......
wow do you really know nothing about the military? every soldier isnt on the front lines they dont work 24/7 either (not to say they cant get called in) and not ever soldier is an actual "Combatant" a lot of them just do paperwork (majority of the military actualy isnt combatants im not even sure if percentage wise they are above 10% at the very least im pretty sure its no larger than 25%).
so ya no sry man not gona fly even combatants have off time man, you cant work well if you arent happy (morale is important in militarys very very important). so again back to the point they are getting shafted by this as well as others. every soldier has a hobby of some sort man. i dont expect ur thinking about your job 24/7 either.
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Are you people REALLY arguing about REGION LOCKING? Is this the best you can come up with against GW2??
HOW many of you plan on RELOCATING to another friggin COUNTRY???? Not a single one of you, i bet.
BUT, EVEN saying that SOME of you, are going to move to this country or that country, and have the money to DO sucha lifestyle change, AND YET NOT have an extra 60 bucks to just buy the fucking game again to play where you move??? That's
REALLY
Stretching it.
And before we go there with the 'OH i'm a transfer college student' or some bullshit, You STILL should have the money to buy this game again. Or better yet, FOCUS ON COLLEGE numbnuts!!!
Furthermore, wtf did all of you do with console games of Past? I don't remember hearing complaints from rarities that actually did move to another country, but oh snap, an MMO DID IT! RAAAAGE!
For goodness sake people, get a life.
when you get older and finish high school, you'll maybe get a job and move out of your mum's house. maybe then you'll begin to understand. until then, maybe you should leave the text-size keys alone, yeah?
bohoho. don't buy the game you whiny babies. Aren't you europeans freeloading enough. You got your high taxes, free healthcare, one stupid euro currency, too many paid vacations, 4-5 days work a week and you guys pissed over one little semantics over a mmo.
OMG again? do any of you people friggen read the OP's post b4 u post?? people like oyu are one of the 3 major problems on this forum.
the problem the OP has is with the fact that if you move to another country and try to log in with the software you bought it wont let you play this is a problem for people who move around a lot (like living in multiple countrys throughought(yes i know i spelt it wrong grammar nazi's, i forgot sue me :P ) the year.
i mean really come on...
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Or, AGAIN, the SAME Thing applies to Console Games. What do you do then, when your region locked PS2 can't play the game you hbuy in another country??What do you? YOU BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE. that costs MORE than buying another copy of Guild Wars 2. If it's FINE for that to happen, then it is just as FINE for a MMO to do it.
Well it sucks for those that travel back and forth. If you bought two different copies of the game I wonder if both could use the same account so you could keep playing your same characters. Otherwise the option of buying two versions of the game doesnt really help.
You are right in that it wont affect many players but it sucks for those that it does. Glad Anet noticed, and said they are doing something to rectify the problem.
I dont think anyone is saying its a major issue, but before you come down on those who do switch between countries because of life style or employment, take all issues into account. Since it doesnt apply to you, I guess its not important to you. If it DID however, I think you'd be singing a different tune. Like I said, it may not be possible for one copy of the game to share an account with another copy. Meaning you'd have to play totally different characters. Im not sure on that. And no one in this thread has lashed out like you have, at Anet, the mmorpg community, or otherwise.
You're just a little wound up there bud. I dont think anyone was saying this is a HUGE issue, even those that it might affect, but it is an issue for some and you could respect that. No one is saying the sky is falling. You're griping at people who are dissapointed because they want to play GW2 freely. They're fans just like you. Something else to keep in mind.
Hell of a lot better thread than the ones going on about "hype" or GW2 is going to suck, or the cash shop. This is actually a legitimate issue I dont mind reading.
it's a simple fix imo. like when playing any other game. if you log into your account and you arent using the computer that you normally do. you have to go to the official site and click "yes this is really me". problem solved.
My friend live in Uk. he will buy a copy in uk and he will join my server in NA.
Simple if u ask me,
It may be a slight obstacle for travellers.
True i dont see any problem too it dont matetr what place you buy you can still play whit same people or in diferent part of world even in wvwvw you can change color and help others and still play whit friends
That is annoying indeed, and I do hope they change it. If nothing else, I hope my account isn't region-locked (just the CD). That I can live with.
Unfortunately due to my career, I am one of those people that has to travel a lot, and not always within the USA (atm I'm looking at a few possible gig overseas). This is something that I really do hope they change. Can I afford to buy multiple copies of the game? Yes. However, I don't know if (say I buy the collector's edition) all my features from the NA version will still be there if I play overseas, or if I will have to roll an entirely new character all over again.
I'd prefer to play on the american servers, and I hope this decision doesn't prevent me from doing that, if I happen to be working in another country for a few months - a year.
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well looks like it's just another money grapping company with no consideration for their customer's needs.
imo, we should all vote with our wallets there are better stuff out there rather than give them $$$ to push us around.
Well I won't be buying it unless it gets resolved. As someone who travels a lot for work there is no point in buying a game I will only be able to play for 1/4 of a year.
If I have to resort to proxies I probably won't play, as I enjoy PvP and the ping would just be too annoying.
huh?, arenanet is an american company they developed the s/w in america, pay all the employees in usd, running cost in usd, guess what we are buying a product from them in us and why shouldnt we be allowed to pay in USD????
why are we forced to pay for the middleman when we dont need one????
just because the techies are gamers, doesn't mean the marketing department do. in fact, that insidious breed only plays games involving live children and stakes, i'm sure of it. and you can bet they had a hand in the decision to lock regions.
Hehehehe....."business trip to thailand"
I went to a financial responsibility seminar in vegas too.
To thier credit, the population of "Internationally Travelling Gaming Enthusiasts" is probably .00001 % of total game population.
Hahaha that does sound dodgy now that I think of it. I am actually an Environmental Scientist that remediates contaminated sites, like after oil spills and such. No ladyboy action.
+1 internets and a cookie.
on topic or not its funny and i agree (this forum is like a border connecting 30 countrys all at war... over the whether the sun is in fact good.... but some people think the war is actualy about whether the sun exists.... or if its good... no one really knows why it just all sorta happens and people dont bother to untangle it).
Does it smell pleasant? Vry good analogy. I upvote. At least, I didn't start the darn threads, lol.
I have to agree with what some others have said, this is another non-issue that people will use to try to stir the pot with. I'm just psyched that there is no region lock on which servers you play on. They've already said they are working on a solution for people who travel between regions. The EU VAT tax situation is probably the reason for this restriction. The work around could just be a mechanism that would check to see that you actually live in the appropriate region, maybe even just requiring that the first log-in be from the appropriate region, or using your credit card verified address for the determination.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
Sure, yeah, call mea fanboi. It doesnt change the fact that this is how shit's been being done FOR YEARS with other gaming avenues. Region Locking is corporate bullshit? For realz? That what ya think? If it WASN'T region locked, then everyone in EU would just buy the NA version for cheaper so they can save some money, which is a CRIME. Learn some things before you talk about them, dude.
The Deep Web is sca-ry.
Thank You. +1
The Deep Web is sca-ry.
Lazy soldiers? One soldier thinks about playing gw2 in few hours after a night shift and while he aimlessly thinks abouts gw2; he gets shafted by the al qaeda terrorist in the head. soldiers shouldn't be distracted by games when their life is on the line......
sounds like code for: "we're getting ready to stick it to ya."
or do you think that you're really going to beat the system? maybe you might get lucky, and they give you the choice of the sticking options. G-Rated, T for Teen, or UNRATED Edition.
I'm not pointing this to poilitical, but soldiers move ALL over the world to peaceful countries with "normalish" working hours and plenty of time to hit up GW2.
I think that it is BS but only really if you can't access your characters otherwise it is still BS but just a smaller pile that i could swallow if i do have to travel
wow do you really know nothing about the military? every soldier isnt on the front lines they dont work 24/7 either (not to say they cant get called in) and not ever soldier is an actual "Combatant" a lot of them just do paperwork (majority of the military actualy isnt combatants im not even sure if percentage wise they are above 10% at the very least im pretty sure its no larger than 25%).
so ya no sry man not gona fly even combatants have off time man, you cant work well if you arent happy (morale is important in militarys very very important). so again back to the point they are getting shafted by this as well as others. every soldier has a hobby of some sort man. i dont expect ur thinking about your job 24/7 either.
Not sure if trolling ...
My brand new bloggity blog.
when you get older and finish high school, you'll maybe get a job and move out of your mum's house. maybe then you'll begin to understand. until then, maybe you should leave the text-size keys alone, yeah?
good lad.
Well it sucks for those that travel back and forth. If you bought two different copies of the game I wonder if both could use the same account so you could keep playing your same characters. Otherwise the option of buying two versions of the game doesnt really help.
You are right in that it wont affect many players but it sucks for those that it does. Glad Anet noticed, and said they are doing something to rectify the problem.
I dont think anyone is saying its a major issue, but before you come down on those who do switch between countries because of life style or employment, take all issues into account. Since it doesnt apply to you, I guess its not important to you. If it DID however, I think you'd be singing a different tune. Like I said, it may not be possible for one copy of the game to share an account with another copy. Meaning you'd have to play totally different characters. Im not sure on that. And no one in this thread has lashed out like you have, at Anet, the mmorpg community, or otherwise.
You're just a little wound up there bud. I dont think anyone was saying this is a HUGE issue, even those that it might affect, but it is an issue for some and you could respect that. No one is saying the sky is falling. You're griping at people who are dissapointed because they want to play GW2 freely. They're fans just like you. Something else to keep in mind.
Hell of a lot better thread than the ones going on about "hype" or GW2 is going to suck, or the cash shop. This is actually a legitimate issue I dont mind reading.
it's a simple fix imo. like when playing any other game. if you log into your account and you arent using the computer that you normally do. you have to go to the official site and click "yes this is really me". problem solved.
I've got the straight edge.
True i dont see any problem too it dont matetr what place you buy you can still play whit same people or in diferent part of world even in wvwvw you can change color and help others and still play whit friends
That is annoying indeed, and I do hope they change it. If nothing else, I hope my account isn't region-locked (just the CD). That I can live with.
Unfortunately due to my career, I am one of those people that has to travel a lot, and not always within the USA (atm I'm looking at a few possible gig overseas). This is something that I really do hope they change. Can I afford to buy multiple copies of the game? Yes. However, I don't know if (say I buy the collector's edition) all my features from the NA version will still be there if I play overseas, or if I will have to roll an entirely new character all over again.
I'd prefer to play on the american servers, and I hope this decision doesn't prevent me from doing that, if I happen to be working in another country for a few months - a year.
This is the only forum ive ever seen where a problem is proposed.
"region locking hurts traveling gamers"
A, albeit vague, solution is offered.
"We realize our gamers travel and are looking into a solution"
Then people go on for 6 more pages arguing about Anet's Audacity.