This is the only forum ive ever seen where a problem is proposed.
"region locking hurts traveling gamers"
A, albeit vague, solution is offered.
"We realize our gamers travel and are looking into a solution"
Then people go on for 6 more pages arguing about Anet's Audacity.
When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol.
I guess they are region locking because the game is unfairly priced in Europe. I am not going to pay 30-50% more for the game. This is not common practice as there are a gazillion games which are fairly priced in Europe.
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Originally posted by evilastro Looks like they posted a quick update: "Finally, we are aware that a lot of our players travel, and we are looking into a solution for you." Good to see they are on the ball at least with player complaints.
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bohoho. don't buy the game you whiny babies. Aren't you europeans freeloading enough. You got your high taxes, free healthcare, one stupid euro currency, too many paid vacations, 4-5 days work a week and you guys pissed over one little semantics over a mmo.
OMG again? do any of you people friggen read the OP's post b4 u post?? people like oyu are one of the 3 major problems on this forum.
the problem the OP has is with the fact that if you move to another country and try to log in with the software you bought it wont let you play this is a problem for people who move around a lot (like living in multiple countrys throughought(yes i know i spelt it wrong grammar nazi's, i forgot sue me :P ) the year.
i mean really come on...
Again, If you have the lifestyle to be ABLE to live in TWO countries, you do NOT need to be catered to. You can BUY another copy of this game. EVERYONE cannot be pleased. Gamer Entitlement is REALLY peaking these days.
Or, AGAIN, the SAME Thing applies to Console Games. What do you do then, when your region locked PS2 can't play the game you hbuy in another country??What do you? YOU BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE. that costs MORE than buying another copy of Guild Wars 2. If it's FINE for that to happen, then it is just as FINE for a MMO to do it.
Having to buy two copies of the game just so you can play it whenever you want should never, ever have to be the solution to a problem.
Additionaly even if paying double the price for the game (and expansions, cash shop items, etc) was a viable solution you would still have 2 different sets of characters and you'd never be able to play the one character you want at any particular time/location.
Honestly this is a braindead 'solution' to a problem that shouldnt even exist in the first place. Region locking is stupid and hopefully it gets resolved.
Are you people REALLY arguing about REGION LOCKING? Is this the best you can come up with against GW2??
HOW many of you plan on RELOCATING to another friggin COUNTRY???? Not a single one of you, i bet.
BUT, EVEN saying that SOME of you, are going to move to this country or that country, and have the money to DO sucha lifestyle change, AND YET NOT have an extra 60 bucks to just buy the fucking game again to play where you move??? That's
REALLY
Stretching it.
And before we go there with the 'OH i'm a transfer college student' or some bullshit, You STILL should have the money to buy this game again. Or better yet, FOCUS ON COLLEGE numbnuts!!!
Furthermore, wtf did all of you do with console games of Past? I don't remember hearing complaints from rarities that actually did move to another country, but oh snap, an MMO DID IT! RAAAAGE!
For goodness sake people, get a life.
Wow, just wow. I thought the people on the TERA and Archage forums were exaggerating when they said that some GW2 fanboys are incredibly stupid and ignorant, but here you are.
If you had fucking read my initial post you would know that I am currently in another country for the remainder of the year for work and by the thousands of posts on Facebook, Twitter and GW2Guru forums I would say that there are quite a lot of people impacted by region locking. Why should we buy a game that will become unplayable when we return home? Or travel next?
Are you really such a blind fanboy that you cannot see how stupid region locking where you can play from is? Just because it doesnt affect you because you are uncultured and never travel, does not mean that the practise of region locking is acceptable.
What did I do with console games? Uh take my console with me? My games didnt stop working in another country.
dont judge all the fans based upon that
most of us are pretty reasonable
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I guess they are region locking because the game is unfairly priced in Europe. I am not going to pay 30-50% more for the game. This is not common practice as there are a gazillion games which are fairly priced in Europe.
The prices are not unfair, it's not Arenanet or NCSoft who decided that europe has to
pay more for GW2 or anything. The taxes are just higher which makes to game effectively cost more.
There is nothing that Arenanet or NCSoft could do to change that because it's they
can't decide how much tax you'll have to pay for the game.
Its 15 dollars cheaper to get the US version, even after you take VAT into account. Has nothing to do with taxes.
When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol.
Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.
How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.
I loathe the concept of regional locking, whether it's for a game that you purchase or any other content that's denied to some regions but not to others. How many times have I followed a link to some content or another and been told "This is not available in your region". Makes me want to setup a US proxy just to circumvent it.
So yeah, region locking sucks ass. Chances are it will never affect me directly but I still hope they reconsider it.
To our Euro allies I would say: "Sorry for the inconvenience this puts you in... " ...but I'm sure they'll get a work-around put in place soon enough. Anet always finds a way to fix stuff like this even if they aren't the fastest at getting around to it.
To everyone else: Tough Shit. Stop buying Taiwan serials for a 1/10th of the price the game is actually worth and then reselling those accounts through RMT sites. We all know there's a bunch of you who do this and you can complain on the forums all you want... but you're not entitled to make money off Anet's hard work. Just GTFO and stop making excuses.
Not a huge fan of region locking but I can sort of understand why it's in place. Publisher, retail partners, etc.
What I think ANet should do as far as region locking goes, is to require the game to be activated from the region where it was purchased, and then allow it to be played from anywhere in the world.
So if you live in France, you have to purchase and activate the game in France. Once you do that, the region lock is lifted and you can play from anywhere in the world. There is no subscription fee so there really is no point in maintaining the region lock after the game is activated.
I'm really hyped for Guildwars 2, but ArenaNet's business decisions are starting to piss me off.
The funny part ist, the best prevention for europeans to buy the US version is, that they will probably only accept credit cards. Many europeans don't have one and those who do, are reluctant to use them for online shopping.
And the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...
Not a huge fan of region locking but I can sort of understand why it's in place. Publisher, retail partners, etc.
What I think ANet should do as far as region locking goes, is to require the game to be activated from the region where it was purchased, and then allow it to be played from anywhere in the world.
So if you live in France, you have to purchase and activate the game in France. Once you do that, the region lock is lifted and you can play from anywhere in the world. There is no subscription fee so there really is no point in maintaining the region lock after the game is activated.
well someone can buy it for a friend and then activate it in the states to avoid whatever Ncsoft is trying to prevent.
I'm really hyped for Guildwars 2, but ArenaNet's business decisions are starting to piss me off.
The funny part ist, the best prevention for europeans to buy the US version is, that they will probably only accept credit cards. Many europeans don't have one and those who do, are reluctant to use them for online shopping.
And the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...
This seems more like a publisher decision than developer's because Publisher handle everything after the developer makes the game. But honestly ppl like you are making a mountain out of molehills, the only people that are affected are ppl that travel a lot which only happens to be a fraction of the players.
When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol.
Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.
How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.
You make it sound like Anet is part of some conspiracy to scam europeans.
There is a market difference, and Anet is compensating for it, like any other business would do. This will stop people from scamming Anet.
When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol.
Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.
How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.
You make it sound like Anet is part of some conspiracy to scam europeans.
There is a market difference, and Anet is compensating for it, like any other business would do. This will stop people from scamming Anet.
They announced the price, everyone told them that the conversion was way off, especially for the CE, and then there is region locking announced, It doesnt take a genius to realise why they did it.
There is no market difference, every other game I have purchased here i the UK has been equivalent to the US cost after including VAT. GW2 is not. There is no reasonable justification for the extra cost either which is why they decided to region lock rather than review the prices that they set.
In terms of world economies, I consider NA and EU to be in the same region. I don't see a reason for ArenaNet to isolate the two.
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When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol.
I guess they are region locking because the game is unfairly priced in Europe. I am not going to pay 30-50% more for the game. This is not common practice as there are a gazillion games which are fairly priced in Europe.
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little boy all you do is come up with idiotc responses. just stop.
this is now a non issue until we see what they're solution is
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"Guild wars 2 international Edition: region free! now available in the cashshop. only $100"
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Having to buy two copies of the game just so you can play it whenever you want should never, ever have to be the solution to a problem.
Additionaly even if paying double the price for the game (and expansions, cash shop items, etc) was a viable solution you would still have 2 different sets of characters and you'd never be able to play the one character you want at any particular time/location.
Honestly this is a braindead 'solution' to a problem that shouldnt even exist in the first place. Region locking is stupid and hopefully it gets resolved.
I bet the solution will be simply contacting a customer service and asking them to change your lock from eu>us or us to eu.
Arena net have said on twitter, they are looking into a solution for those who travel around the world.
dont judge all the fans based upon that
most of us are pretty reasonable
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I am a GW2 fan, I wouldnt be annoyed by region locking if I wasnt. I was just amazed by that guys stupidity. It really was mind boggling.
Its 15 dollars cheaper to get the US version, even after you take VAT into account. Has nothing to do with taxes.
there's been a few responses from clueless children in this thread that is mind boggling
it makes me wonder how they survive in the real world
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Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR
Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.
How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.
I loathe the concept of regional locking, whether it's for a game that you purchase or any other content that's denied to some regions but not to others. How many times have I followed a link to some content or another and been told "This is not available in your region". Makes me want to setup a US proxy just to circumvent it.
So yeah, region locking sucks ass. Chances are it will never affect me directly but I still hope they reconsider it.
Hey - here's a video detailing our opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE-akVaK8KA
To our Euro allies I would say: "Sorry for the inconvenience this puts you in... " ...but I'm sure they'll get a work-around put in place soon enough. Anet always finds a way to fix stuff like this even if they aren't the fastest at getting around to it.
To everyone else: Tough Shit. Stop buying Taiwan serials for a 1/10th of the price the game is actually worth and then reselling those accounts through RMT sites. We all know there's a bunch of you who do this and you can complain on the forums all you want... but you're not entitled to make money off Anet's hard work. Just GTFO and stop making excuses.
Not a huge fan of region locking but I can sort of understand why it's in place. Publisher, retail partners, etc.
What I think ANet should do as far as region locking goes, is to require the game to be activated from the region where it was purchased, and then allow it to be played from anywhere in the world.
So if you live in France, you have to purchase and activate the game in France. Once you do that, the region lock is lifted and you can play from anywhere in the world. There is no subscription fee so there really is no point in maintaining the region lock after the game is activated.
I'm really hyped for Guildwars 2, but ArenaNet's business decisions are starting to piss me off.
The funny part ist, the best prevention for europeans to buy the US version is, that they will probably only accept credit cards. Many europeans don't have one and those who do, are reluctant to use them for online shopping.
And the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...
well someone can buy it for a friend and then activate it in the states to avoid whatever Ncsoft is trying to prevent.
This seems more like a publisher decision than developer's because Publisher handle everything after the developer makes the game. But honestly ppl like you are making a mountain out of molehills, the only people that are affected are ppl that travel a lot which only happens to be a fraction of the players.
You make it sound like Anet is part of some conspiracy to scam europeans.
There is a market difference, and Anet is compensating for it, like any other business would do. This will stop people from scamming Anet.
ncsoft accepts PaySafe cards too
https://help.ncsoft.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6037/~/what-is-paysafecard%3F
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They announced the price, everyone told them that the conversion was way off, especially for the CE, and then there is region locking announced, It doesnt take a genius to realise why they did it.
There is no market difference, every other game I have purchased here i the UK has been equivalent to the US cost after including VAT. GW2 is not. There is no reasonable justification for the extra cost either which is why they decided to region lock rather than review the prices that they set.
I was planning to ge the US version since it's bound to be a LOT cheaper.
I will wait f or the bargain bin now or not buy at all.
In terms of world economies, I consider NA and EU to be in the same region. I don't see a reason for ArenaNet to isolate the two.