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Why is Tera not that hyped ? Is it not that good or are more people waiting for other games ?

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  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    The average MMO player isnt looking for TERA's combat system, and since thats all it really has going for it most people arent interested.

     

    The game IS hyped plenty though.  Not sure where you are seeing no hype from, in fact its closer to over hyped than under hyped

  • PivotelitePivotelite Member UncommonPosts: 2,145

    Originally posted by teakbois

    The average MMO player isnt looking for TERA's combat system, and since thats all it really has going for it most people arent interested.

     

    The game IS hyped plenty though.  Not sure where you are seeing no hype from, in fact its closer to over hyped than under hyped

     Over-hyped is not people who've played the game talking about it...so no, I think it is actually under hyped.

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  • Southpaw.GamerSouthpaw.Gamer Member CommonPosts: 572

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

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  • kanedaAkanedaA Member Posts: 66

    Originally posted by Zylaxx

    the major things why I dislike Tera and will not play is becasue of the following:


    • Its Asian themed

    • has anime/maga looking character i.e. popori and the lil 5 year old female only race

    • The male characters are to feminine and girly looking

    • Fighting Reindeer, treemen, Bumble Bees, and plishie toy like mobs.

    • self rooting on combat animations

    • generic (even more generic then WoW or Rift) go kill 5 treemen, return and get another quest to collect 4 treemen hearts.  I detest fed-ex and kill tasks as a form of questing.

    .Its west-east combined

    .again west-east....u want west ? humans,elves and the castanics wich is basicaly  dark elves with horns,u want east u got popori,elin wich btw if u even BOTHER to read some lore about them u should know they are 200+ year old and if u payed attention their "behind" - legs shows they are not childs.

    .That goes for the elves only

    .Hmmmm trees and bees

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    You dont like it ? u can go back a kill another dragon

    .Like all mmos the last 10 years you talk to ppl and you go gather and kill stuf for them thats the mmofantasy way...

    and if pl think gw2 will change it o boy i smell massive rage...you will still go kill 10 this and that not in "quest hub tho"good way to hiding it

    its like an fps..u expect to open doors and shoot at ppl...it didnt change and it certainly wont change in the future.

    and btw that doesn look asian to me 

    Nice try tho...better next time

  • kanedaAkanedaA Member Posts: 66

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

  • korent1991korent1991 Member UncommonPosts: 1,364

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

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  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,345

    The court battles have deterred my enthusiasm. If they survive those then I might think more positively about the situation. See, I like to invest time in building up mains and alts, and if the court battle goes badly then all that investment of time might be ruined and my toons won't get to where I would want them to be and so I have stayed away a lot more than I might have,

  • GanatharGanathar Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by nyxium

    The court battles have deterred my enthusiasm. If they survive those then I might think more positively about the situation. See, I like to invest time in building up mains and alts, and if the court battle goes badly then all that investment of time might be ruined and my toons won't get to where I would want them to be and so I have stayed away a lot more than I might have,

    For what it's worth NCsoft lost the case against TERA in Korea.

  • otacuotacu Member UncommonPosts: 547

    Originally posted by Ganathar

    Originally posted by nyxium

    The court battles have deterred my enthusiasm. If they survive those then I might think more positively about the situation. See, I like to invest time in building up mains and alts, and if the court battle goes badly then all that investment of time might be ruined and my toons won't get to where I would want them to be and so I have stayed away a lot more than I might have,

    For what it's worth NCsoft lost the case against TERA in Korea.

    That's incorrect.

    The case was not Ncsoft vs Bluehole (or Tera) but Ncsoft vs former 4 core developers from Lineage 3. And Ncsoft just recently won.

    Just the Bluhole studio as a whole wasn't ruled as guilty but indeed software and hardware was stolen. Some developers went to jail and had to pay compensation.

    It was the supreme court so there is no way to change that.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/17/korean-court-confirms-guilty-verdict-in-tera-criminal-trial/

    And there is still a linked $5.7milion civil suit pending.

    Since the former ncsoft developers just lost it doesn't look like it will well. But we shall see.

    Anyway i doubt the game itself is at risk. At most Bluehole studio will just pay some money as compensation for the theft

  • Mith_PKMith_PK Member Posts: 8

    I think the reason why Tera is not this hyped,  is also the same reasons why other games are not realy getting hyped anymore...

     

    To many people bought games that were hyped, and after a month, realised the game was not what they were looking for, and after buying some games,  people are likely to talk less about new MMO's and start to dislike huge game Hyping!!

     

    i burned myself several times on games i thought to become Tha New BomB, and hyped them into the sky!!  and in the end, most ppl i played with, ended up playing other games, because the mmo's just lacked the "new thing" after a month or so....  like vanguard,  had to many bugs, age of conan got boring realy fast, aion became to much of a gind, esp. the pvp zone....  just to give some fast examples....

     

    Now,  i bought this game,  but on our guild forum, barely spoke about it.  (maby 5 post or something...)   . 

     

    Every MMO that becomes a failure, demotivates alot of players, to try another one when it launches...

     

    I think there will come an end, to the game-hyping....  well, some websites like MMORPG will still try to hype games,  but people like me, wont be jumping on that train to fast anymore... except after some decent weeks of research and playing a beta...

     

    oh well.... :)  my 2 cents o Hyping,  ....  in this case, Tera,    but i think it counts for most new MMO's coming out.... anytime soon....

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by korent1991

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    Ya it doesn't, while its there for escape moving the fck out of way is what your suppose to do most of the time.

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Execpt for the fact that almost ever ranged i seen ability lock on and hom.

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    So its basically tab target with a save skill every now and than, know what? in Tera i can dodge every skill by just moving =O i know shocking isn't it.

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

    LOL omg fanboys twisting fact, omg this just made my day. If you could read at all, the supreme court found 3 ex-NCSoft employees guildy for selling NCSoft trade secrets. Never said what, but if anything it has to do with lineage 3 that got scrapped not GW2. Many there is no end in which you guys won't go to make GW2 look good.

    @Otacu EME already made an offical statement that BHS is not guilty and that only the ex-employee were.

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow Member UncommonPosts: 1,186

    Tera is just released a bit too late imho.

    D3/TSW just around the corner.

    GW2 is coming.

     

  • kanedaAkanedaA Member Posts: 66

    Originally posted by GoldenArrow

    Tera is just released a bit too late imho.

    D3/TSW just around the corner.

    GW2 is coming.

     

    D3 is already a big flop 

    TSW plz next time mention a more serious mmo something like archeage maybe...but TSW ?

    lol

  • helthroshelthros Member UncommonPosts: 1,449

    Originally posted by teakbois

    The average MMO player isnt looking for TERA's combat system, and since thats all it really has going for it most people arent interested.

     

    The game IS hyped plenty though.  Not sure where you are seeing no hype from, in fact its closer to over hyped than under hyped

     

    The average MMO player doesn't know what they are looking for. They say they want "innovation", yet they don't try the games actually innovating such as EVE. They really all just regurgitate the same bs they've seen others use while they sit back in their chairs waiting for someone to reinvent the wheel for them.

  • kanedaAkanedaA Member Posts: 66

    Originally posted by korent1991

    Originally posted by kanedaA


    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

    I just love you gw2 fangirls trying to find any tiny excuse to favor gw2 and bash tera no matter what

    dude....TERA has the best combat system start DEALING with it end of story

  • xposeidonxposeidon Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by korent1991

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

    I just love you gw2 fangirls trying to find any tiny excuse to favor gw2 and bash tera no matter what

    dude....TERA has the best combat system start DEALING with it end of story

     Best combat system in YOUR opinion start DEALING with it end of story.

    Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  • KehdarKehdar Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by kanedaA

     

    D3 is already a big flop 

     

    Oh i disagree...

    D3 is a big flop, if you read the comments on this board.

    I'm pretty sure it is going to top every possible selling chart for the next month, moreover i don't see why people complain so much about it.

    I found in D3 exactly what i was looking for, a version of D2 with a better graphic. Yes, they remove the skill trees, but before calling this  new system more linear, I'm waiting to play it a bit longer than 2 hours of demo/beta.

     

    Now, if someone can take Ultima Online and remakes it upgrading the graphic, i'll be a happy player.

     

  • Mith_PKMith_PK Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by helthros

    Originally posted by teakbois

    The average MMO player isnt looking for TERA's combat system, and since thats all it really has going for it most people arent interested.

     

    The game IS hyped plenty though.  Not sure where you are seeing no hype from, in fact its closer to over hyped than under hyped

     

    The average MMO player doesn't know what they are looking for. They say they want "innovation", yet they don't try the games actually innovating such as EVE. They really all just regurgitate the same bs they've seen others use while they sit back in their chairs waiting for someone to reinvent the wheel for them.

    All i want is:

    a new ultima online, in 3D   :)  with felucca ruleset.

    (you will say play darkfall, but i dont like first person only play :( )

     

    sandbox game with open huge hard dungeons / mobs.

    player law - (red - blue system,) outlaw, ...

    open world pvp, not boxed in battleground crap.

    player crafted gear to be extremely important, and player economy with player vendors

    player housing

    :)

    i honestly would go play vanguard if there was a pvp server !!

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by korent1991


    Originally posted by kanedaA


    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

    I just love you gw2 fangirls trying to find any tiny excuse to favor gw2 and bash tera no matter what

    dude....TERA has the best combat system start DEALING with it end of story

    I wouldn't call it the best combat system because if I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.

     



    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.


    Action games having animation lock is a staple. Suck on and deal with THAT. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,963

    Originally posted by NBlitz

     

    I wouldn't call it the best combat system because if I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.

     



    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.


    Action games having animation lock is a staple. Suck on and deal with THAT. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

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  • Vunak23Vunak23 Member UncommonPosts: 633

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by NBlitz


     

    I wouldn't call it the best combat system because if I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.

     



    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.


    Action games having animation lock is a staple. Suck on and deal with THAT. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

    I completely agree.

    I agree. The tatical sense of Tera is amazing. I can't just run in and bust out a rotation and destroy someone, because every situation is completely different and calls for different actions/reactions.

    As for the people complaining about TERA and the feel etc. There is something to remember about these people. They died on Vekas. Nuff Said. 

    "In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Originally posted by NBlitz

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by korent1991

    Originally posted by kanedaA

    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    I've bought the game... but if the PvP isn't compelling enough the moment GW2 is out I'm done with the game.  

    Oo u mean another tab lock system mmo wich it all depens on % if u gonna evade an attack or spell ?

    and plz dont bother with the "GW2 has a manual evasion skill"

    i know all that already but it still a tab lock spam target system.

    the pvp of tera is the best an fantasy mmo can offer to date. (and yes i experience gw2 pvp)

    O, you mean in tera it doesn't depend on evading the attack or spell? I think you try to avoid as much damage as possible, unless you're saying in tera you have to stand like a tree and take all the hits you can get?

    It's the same thing only with mouse crosshair targeting (which gets really tedious after a while, atleast for me since I've played games which had the same combat mechanic) and without the proper evade mechanic...

    It's not a tab lock spam system because even if you tab lock someone (if you're not a caster, tho even then) you can't just press spell #1 and wait till your character walks towards that target automatically and watch it do the dmg... If you're positioning sucks, your spells and attacks will suck as well... Since you can cast your spells without having a target you don't have to tab lock just to hit someone, you can walk into a group of people and start using your spells to do damage... So tab doesn't have a huge role in this combat system...

    Evasion skill is important mechanic to stay alive, it's not like you can evade every attack with that.... It's ment to be life saving skill which should be used at the right moment to evade the most dmg and gain advantage... With this skill the game only feels more dynamic but doesn't change the way skills work... You can play the game without any tab targeting or mouse targeting and still be successful...

    If you experienced GW2 PVP you should've known this, since it's the first main thing you learn when you teleport to WvWvW... 

    Ofcourse then there's this supreme court case which 4 core devs of TERA lost. Which confirms they were stealing game mechanics from GW2 since they were the employees of ANet before they left and stole what could've been stolen at that time...

    I just love you gw2 fangirls trying to find any tiny excuse to favor gw2 and bash tera no matter what

    dude....TERA has the best combat system start DEALING with it end of story

    I wouldn't call it the best combat system because if I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.

     



    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.


    Action games having animation lock is a staple. Suck on and deal with THAT. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

       the combat system is good , but i dont find it as engageing as AOC with its combo attacks and movement

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