Edit. The guy posting above me is a perfect example. He does not know how to type other currency's even when the thread is littered with examples. Edit
Thus why would I have to re-type it? You couldnt understand what I meant?
I am perfectly happy with the price of GW2. It's MUCH better value than any other subscription based mmo. They could charge even more and it would still be better value than its competitors. How much money have you wasted on other mmos with subscription fees?
If you are happy to pay the standard price of any other mmo and then continually pay roughly £10 more every single month just for the privelege of being able to log into it, it seems a bit ridiculous to complain about the price of GW2. It's a mere £15 more than most other games, and for that £15 ArenaNet is giving you a lifetime subscription. Complaining about that makes no sense at all. If any other sub based mmo offered a lifetime subscription for £15 then you wouldnt be complaining about it would you.
I wish all mmos were sold this way. I currently own a number of them but if I want to simply go back and play them for a little while (like any of my other games) then I have to pay a £10 fee for each and every one which is a load of bollocks, especially as I work full time and dont play games every day. Mmos with subscription fees are really bad value for my money. With GW2 I wont have this problem which is great. In fact I hope the price of the game NEVER goes down as ArenaNet deserves every penny of it.
Oh and I couldnt care less about the cash shop as I know that it's optional and isn't like the cash shops found in some other F2P games.........despite all of the silly posts to the contrary.
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
How is ANet responsible for exchange rates or VAT? That's a government issue.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I bet it's the same people who say GW2 does not have a subscription fee so it's okay to pay a bit more. Completely forgetting (most) other games with a cash shop are free.
Whats your point? You plan to change the pricing model? If its too much for you don't play. Its not a matter if its ok or not, its a matter of fact thats what it is.
If you played F2P games which I do, you'll realize that you dont have to use the Cash Shop to play... so where does this 'extra' cost come in?
I am perfectly happy with the price of GW2. It's MUCH better value than any other subscription based mmo. They could charge even more and it would still be better value than its competitors. How much money have you wasted on other mmos with subscription fees?
If you are happy to pay the standard price of any other mmo and then continually pay roughly £10 more every single month just for the privelege of being able to log into it, it seems a bit ridiculous to complain about the price of GW2. It's a mere £15 more than most other games, and for that £15 ArenaNet is giving you a lifetime subscription. Complaining about that makes no sense at all. If any other sub based mmo offered a lifetime subscription for £15 then you wouldnt be complaining about it would you.
I wish all mmos were sold this way. I currently own a number of them but if I want to simply go back and play them for a little while (like any of my other games) then I have to pay a £10 fee for each and every one which is a load of bollocks, especially as I work full time and dont play games every day. Mmos with subscription fees are really bad value for my money. With GW2 I wont have this problem which is great. In fact I hope the price of the game NEVER goes down as ArenaNet deserves every penny of it.
Oh and I couldnt care less about the cash shop as I know that it's optional and isn't like the cash shops found in some other F2P games.........despite all of the silly posts to the contrary.
Unless the stuff I've read about GW2 CS is wrong, it is the same with F2P-Cash shops actually.
Contrary to popular belief in this forum, most F2P-Cash shops don't sell 'Epic Sword +10' and are similar to GW2.
Gdemami - Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
You are wasting your keyboard. We're at page 19 and some people do not understand how there can be different countries or currency. You could show them a globe and Euro or Pound notes and they still would not be any wiser.
Edit. The guy posting above me is a perfect example. He does not know how to type other currency's even when the thread is littered with examples. Edit
I bet it's the same people who say GW2 does not have a subscription fee so it's okay to pay a bit more. Completely forgetting (most) other games with a cash shop are free.
And you don't know how to type "currencies," form a proper first sentence, use the word "I'll" or use a complete sentence to finish off your thought.
At least the various currencies and exchange rates are foreign to people. You are tearing apart your native language.
Edit. The guy posting above me is a perfect example. He does not know how to type other currency's even when the thread is littered with examples. Edit
Thus why would I have to re-type it? You couldnt understand what I meant?
The thread is about UK (and EU) having to pay the equivalent of $85 (and $80) while the US has to pay only $60.
I am not convinced from your post you grasped that idea..
You are wasting your keyboard. We're at page 19 and some people do not understand how there can be different countries or currency. You could show them a globe and Euro or Pound notes and they still would not be any wiser.
Edit. The guy posting above me is a perfect example. He does not know how to type other currency's even when the thread is littered with examples. Edit
I bet it's the same people who say GW2 does not have a subscription fee so it's okay to pay a bit more. Completely forgetting (most) other games with a cash shop are free.
And you don't know how to type "currencies," form a proper first sentence, use the word "I'll" or use a complete sentence to finish off your thought.
At least the various currencies and exchange rates are foreign to people. You are tearing apart your native language.
Wow thanks English is not my native language so that's a big compliment.
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
How is ANet responsible for exchange rates or VAT? That's a government issue.
They are responsible in that they should price the product to account for exchange rates. That's why the majority of games in the EU are priced at 35-40 Euros, to make it equivalent with the US price.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
Unless the stuff I've read about GW2 CS is wrong, it is the same with F2P-Cash shops actually.
Contrary to popular belief in this forum, most F2P-Cash shops don't sell 'Epic Sword +10' and are similar to GW2.
The argument is that it is so easy to catch up gear-wise with the best, that it won't matter neither in PvE nor PvP once the 1st month is up.
Normally, in F2P P2W games, they can buy so much convenience that they are many months ahead of everyone else both PvE and PvP wise.
Edit:
However, both cosmetically and merchant-wise it is definitely pay to win. Although those aspects are not as important as PvE and PvP, they are sufficiently important for a significant amount of people.
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
Solution for which problem, exactly? I am suspecting you haven't understood the actual problem.
The problem is that ANet is not accounting for exchange rates, that's why games in the EU are standardly priced at 35-40 euros. ANet is basically doing a 1:1 dollar to euro conversion, which is not the going exchange rate. As others have pointed out before, the simple solution is to vote with your wallet.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
Edit. The guy posting above me is a perfect example. He does not know how to type other currency's even when the thread is littered with examples. Edit
Thus why would I have to re-type it? You couldnt understand what I meant?
The thread is about UK (and EU) having to pay the equivalent of $85 (and $80) while the US has to pay only $60.
I am not convinced from your post you grasped that idea..
I get that. My point is we cant change the pricing model, so calling it expensive is moot. At the end of the day you have a choice. You will either eat the 80 dollars and be able to play, or say its not fair and not play.
If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd pay 85 dollars - why? Because I want to play the game. I've spent more on less. Is it a waste? No one can determine that but me, and I can tell you for me its a good value. I never use cash shops and I play F2P games. Now, throw in a monthly sub and then I'd have to re-consider. But at no point would I be complaining about the price (difference). I simply speak with my wallet (i.e. - you aint getting whats in it if I feel its too high).
So the real question is how bad do you want to play? And what are you willing to pay to do it?
I'm not sure what games OP has been playing the last 2 or 3 years. Games being priced at 59.99 is nothing new, the price increases have been coming for a while. I remember when it was big debate for the consoles when X360 and PS3 started charging 50 and 60 dollars for games.
This is pretty much the average pricing on high-end games. I'm not suprised by it, I think the OP just needs to do a little more research there.
60 pounds is not 60 dollars. It's actually close to 80 dollars for this game in Europe. So yeah, that's why I'm pissed.
Read my post before commenting.
The price of this game is NOT AVERAGE in the UK at least.
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
Solution for which problem, exactly? I am suspecting you haven't understood the actual problem.
The problem is that ANet is not accounting for exchange rates, that's why games in the EU are standardly priced at 35-40 euros. ANet is basically doing a 1:1 dollar to euro conversion, which is not the going exchange rate.
So, if one European doesn't buy the game, Arenanet will change their plans regarding pricing? If that doesn't happen, the problem isn't solved, now is it?
I pay 40 euros for wow (at launch! Let's make it cheap) and pay 15 euros every month!
THUS:
If I play wow for 2 months I have paid 70 euros!! WHICH means that gw2 is cheaper then wow AND all other subscription model mmorpgs that are out there!
now stop whining and go flush yourself in some toilet please..
But what if I've never played and paid for WoW or any other sub game.
I paid for the Global Agenda box, 30 pounds, I won't pay 60 pounds for GW2 which is also a B2PF2P(with cash shop) game.
I get that. My point is we cant change the pricing model, so calling it expensive is moot. At the end of the day you have a choice. You will either eat the 80 dollars and be able to play, or say its not fair and not play.
If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd pay 85 dollars - why? Because I want to play the game. I've spent more on less. Is it a waste? No one can determine that but me, and I can tell you for me its a good value. I never use cash shops and I play F2P games. Now, throw in a monthly sub and then I'd have to re-consider. But at no point would I be complaining about the price (difference). I simply speak with my wallet (i.e. - you aint getting whats in it if I feel its too high).
So the real question is how bad do you want to play? And what are you willing to pay to do it?
I think asking whether or not ANet's price will work in the UK or not is worth discussing.
Gdemami - Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
Solution for which problem, exactly? I am suspecting you haven't understood the actual problem.
The problem is that ANet is not accounting for exchange rates, that's why games in the EU are standardly priced at 35-40 euros. ANet is basically doing a 1:1 dollar to euro conversion, which is not the going exchange rate.
So, if one European doesn't buy the game, Arenanet will change their plans regarding pricing? If that doesn't happen, the problem isn't solved, now is it?
If more than one European doesn't buy the game, then ANet may change their plans. Stop with the strawman arguments.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
However, both cosmetically and merchant-wise it is definitely pay to win. Although those aspects are not as important as PvE and PvP, they are sufficiently important for a significant amount of people.
How do you 'win' cosmetically? You have more things to wear than I do? I fail to see the advantage (other than envy that I couldnt have it without buying) - but thats hardly winning imo.
I think people take the whole cash shop pay 2 win thing too seriously. I have to grind "longer" then someone who bought xp packs? ok. Guess Im lucky, for me its not the destination but the journey...
So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
Solution for which problem, exactly? I am suspecting you haven't understood the actual problem.
The problem is that ANet is not accounting for exchange rates, that's why games in the EU are standardly priced at 35-40 euros. ANet is basically doing a 1:1 dollar to euro conversion, which is not the going exchange rate.
So, if one European doesn't buy the game, Arenanet will change their plans regarding pricing? If that doesn't happen, the problem isn't solved, now is it?
If more than one European doesn't buy the game, then ANet may change their plans. Stop with the strawman arguments.
Then it is not for certain a solution, it may be a solution; but that is far from certain. You are the one that claimed that you had a solution, which you evidently didn't.
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So ANet is screwing Europeans over with exchange rates, simple solution is to just not buy the game.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO
Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
Normal B2P games (IE Non-monthly-fee) tend to drop in prices fairly quickly or subject to 'loss leaders' by various retailers nowadays.
I saw a recent title 'The Darkness2' for $35 USD on Amazon so yeah.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
Thus why would I have to re-type it? You couldnt understand what I meant?
I am perfectly happy with the price of GW2. It's MUCH better value than any other subscription based mmo. They could charge even more and it would still be better value than its competitors. How much money have you wasted on other mmos with subscription fees?
If you are happy to pay the standard price of any other mmo and then continually pay roughly £10 more every single month just for the privelege of being able to log into it, it seems a bit ridiculous to complain about the price of GW2. It's a mere £15 more than most other games, and for that £15 ArenaNet is giving you a lifetime subscription. Complaining about that makes no sense at all. If any other sub based mmo offered a lifetime subscription for £15 then you wouldnt be complaining about it would you.
I wish all mmos were sold this way. I currently own a number of them but if I want to simply go back and play them for a little while (like any of my other games) then I have to pay a £10 fee for each and every one which is a load of bollocks, especially as I work full time and dont play games every day. Mmos with subscription fees are really bad value for my money. With GW2 I wont have this problem which is great. In fact I hope the price of the game NEVER goes down as ArenaNet deserves every penny of it.
Oh and I couldnt care less about the cash shop as I know that it's optional and isn't like the cash shops found in some other F2P games.........despite all of the silly posts to the contrary.
How is ANet responsible for exchange rates or VAT? That's a government issue.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Whats your point? You plan to change the pricing model? If its too much for you don't play. Its not a matter if its ok or not, its a matter of fact thats what it is.
If you played F2P games which I do, you'll realize that you dont have to use the Cash Shop to play... so where does this 'extra' cost come in?
Solution for which problem, exactly? I am suspecting you haven't understood the actual problem.
Unless the stuff I've read about GW2 CS is wrong, it is the same with F2P-Cash shops actually.
Contrary to popular belief in this forum, most F2P-Cash shops don't sell 'Epic Sword +10' and are similar to GW2.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
And you don't know how to type "currencies," form a proper first sentence, use the word "I'll" or use a complete sentence to finish off your thought.
At least the various currencies and exchange rates are foreign to people. You are tearing apart your native language.
The thread is about UK (and EU) having to pay the equivalent of $85 (and $80) while the US has to pay only $60.
I am not convinced from your post you grasped that idea..
I haven't really looked at the prices over here in America. I will say that you cannot compare this to a WoW expansion. That hardly seems fair.
Wow thanks English is not my native language so that's a big compliment.
They are responsible in that they should price the product to account for exchange rates. That's why the majority of games in the EU are priced at 35-40 Euros, to make it equivalent with the US price.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO
Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
The argument is that it is so easy to catch up gear-wise with the best, that it won't matter neither in PvE nor PvP once the 1st month is up.
Normally, in F2P P2W games, they can buy so much convenience that they are many months ahead of everyone else both PvE and PvP wise.
Edit:
However, both cosmetically and merchant-wise it is definitely pay to win. Although those aspects are not as important as PvE and PvP, they are sufficiently important for a significant amount of people.
60.00 digital edition
80.00 Digital deluxe edition
150.00 CE edition
These are US prices - directly from the a.net website
The problem is that ANet is not accounting for exchange rates, that's why games in the EU are standardly priced at 35-40 euros. ANet is basically doing a 1:1 dollar to euro conversion, which is not the going exchange rate. As others have pointed out before, the simple solution is to vote with your wallet.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO
Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
I get that. My point is we cant change the pricing model, so calling it expensive is moot. At the end of the day you have a choice. You will either eat the 80 dollars and be able to play, or say its not fair and not play.
If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd pay 85 dollars - why? Because I want to play the game. I've spent more on less. Is it a waste? No one can determine that but me, and I can tell you for me its a good value. I never use cash shops and I play F2P games. Now, throw in a monthly sub and then I'd have to re-consider. But at no point would I be complaining about the price (difference). I simply speak with my wallet (i.e. - you aint getting whats in it if I feel its too high).
So the real question is how bad do you want to play? And what are you willing to pay to do it?
60 pounds is not 60 dollars. It's actually close to 80 dollars for this game in Europe. So yeah, that's why I'm pissed.
Read my post before commenting.
The price of this game is NOT AVERAGE in the UK at least.
Most games are priced at 30-40 pounds.
So, if one European doesn't buy the game, Arenanet will change their plans regarding pricing? If that doesn't happen, the problem isn't solved, now is it?
But what if I've never played and paid for WoW or any other sub game.
I paid for the Global Agenda box, 30 pounds, I won't pay 60 pounds for GW2 which is also a B2PF2P(with cash shop) game.
Guess this needs to be reposted.
Stop crying and read ^
I think asking whether or not ANet's price will work in the UK or not is worth discussing.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
If more than one European doesn't buy the game, then ANet may change their plans. Stop with the strawman arguments.
Playing - FFXIV, ESO
Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
How do you 'win' cosmetically? You have more things to wear than I do? I fail to see the advantage (other than envy that I couldnt have it without buying) - but thats hardly winning imo.
I think people take the whole cash shop pay 2 win thing too seriously. I have to grind "longer" then someone who bought xp packs? ok. Guess Im lucky, for me its not the destination but the journey...
Then it is not for certain a solution, it may be a solution; but that is far from certain. You are the one that claimed that you had a solution, which you evidently didn't.