Just have to laugh how biofans post something like its set in stone good information, even though its based on a f2p giveaway. I am patient, will gladly come back to this two weeks from now for its "reevaluation".
To what end? It's a subject I find highly pointless, what does it matter where any game settles in terms of numbers? That should only matter to EA. The only reason people on these forums even bring it up is to rub into someones face, be it fans or non. Which is as petty as petty gets.
Seeing EA suffer is very heartwarming to me. Not on a gaming level but a business one. As for the fan base. Let me remind you that I was a beta tester, who was banned from the forums because I discussed the clunky responsiveness of the game. Spoke negatively about the hypocracy of the beating on a single boss like WOW issues. Not very heroic concept, and said it would come back to haunt them if they took this WoW approach.
Not only was i banned, but the thread had over 200+ fanbois telling me I was a hater and troll. I shook that off. Even bought my son a copy. But then when basic facts about the game became obvious to all but the demented few, its hard to not enjoy the misery they so deserve. So like I said, I'm more than willing to once again wait it out and get the final laugh here. To me, there is no doubt about where this game is headed, its just a matter of when, not if. Pardon me for smiling for being patient.
Cause your opinion is obviously the only one that mattered? Self importanace is very unbecoming. And so much hate over a GAME is pathetic
Just have to laugh how biofans post something like its set in stone good information, even though its based on a f2p giveaway. I am patient, will gladly come back to this two weeks from now for its "reevaluation".
To what end? It's a subject I find highly pointless, what does it matter where any game settles in terms of numbers? That should only matter to EA. The only reason people on these forums even bring it up is to rub into someones face, be it fans or non. Which is as petty as petty gets.
Seeing EA suffer is very heartwarming to me. Not on a gaming level but a business one. As for the fan base. Let me remind you that I was a beta tester, who was banned from the forums because I discussed the clunky responsiveness of the game. Spoke negatively about the hypocracy of the beating on a single boss like WOW issues. Not very heroic concept, and said it would come back to haunt them if they took this WoW approach.
Not only was i banned, but the thread had over 200+ fanbois telling me I was a hater and troll. I shook that off. Even bought my son a copy. But then when basic facts about the game became obvious to all but the demented few, its hard to not enjoy the misery they so deserve. So like I said, I'm more than willing to once again wait it out and get the final laugh here. To me, there is no doubt about where this game is headed, its just a matter of when, not if. Pardon me for smiling for being patient.
Cause your opinion is obviously the only one that mattered? Self importanace is very unbecoming.
Somehow I get his feeling that this thread, a week from now, is going to be similiar to that thread about how 1.2 was a perfect patch.
I must ask, do you guys practice the new non trinity combat system? I notice you guys take turns on putting out threads that end up humiliating yourselves and send you into a downed state a day or two later, then someone else steps up and takes over the tanking till you recover.
I beg to differ. I'm sure in a few weeks they will provide the exact proof they need when BW state a significant overwhelming vast majority of people currently playing the game are paying customers. Therefore proving to them the game is not only growing but their original estimate of 80% retention is clearly wrong and should be much higher at around 90%
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Just have to laugh how biofans post something like its set in stone good information, even though its based on a f2p giveaway. I am patient, will gladly come back to this two weeks from now for its "reevaluation".
To what end? It's a subject I find highly pointless, what does it matter where any game settles in terms of numbers? That should only matter to EA. The only reason people on these forums even bring it up is to rub into someones face, be it fans or non. Which is as petty as petty gets.
Seeing EA suffer is very heartwarming to me. Not on a gaming level but a business one. As for the fan base. Let me remind you that I was a beta tester, who was banned from the forums because I discussed the clunky responsiveness of the game. Spoke negatively about the hypocracy of the beating on a single boss like WOW issues. Not very heroic concept, and said it would come back to haunt them if they took this WoW approach.
Not only was i banned, but the thread had over 200+ fanbois telling me I was a hater and troll. I shook that off. Even bought my son a copy. But then when basic facts about the game became obvious to all but the demented few, its hard to not enjoy the misery they so deserve. So like I said, I'm more than willing to once again wait it out and get the final laugh here. To me, there is no doubt about where this game is headed, its just a matter of when, not if. Pardon me for smiling for being patient.
Cause your opinion is obviously the only one that mattered? Self importanace is very unbecoming.
Apparently I wasn't alone.
That argument goes both ways as well right? Apparently
The apologists for this game are just downright pathetic. I am glad that i stopped playing this poorly executed mess. The community is even worse.
I find it all rather pathetic. Especially statements like this. You actually think it's just fans spreading nonsense? If people didn't instigate this perpetual fued it wouldn't exist as it does.
Well, in a way he is right!
I have proven in several posts how bad the average population is on a STANDARD load server.
And yet those Bioware "fans" keep spouting about hundreds of players on fleet, hundreds of people on each planet, with several instances up and running on each planet.... yada yada yada! Without backing it up with screenshots!
As I haven't seen any of that kind of activity since the first week/two weeks of launch.
My two servers I play on, where both VERY HEAVY to FULL load the first 3 weeks or so, with those kind of numbers yes.
But ever since week 4 it has gone more and more downhill... and now the average activity is a mere shadow of it's former past.
Finding groups is a total pain in the butt! when you have only an average of 5-12 people running around on each planet.
Doing flashpoints is just as worse, when you got only 30ish people online on Fleet during primetime.
Queue times for Warzones have skyrocketed since the last month or two.
FACT is! There are only a handful servers left with a healthy popultion! Mostly due to lots of desperate people from LIGHT/STANDARD pop servers rerolling there.
After so many chars on my current two servers... I can't stomach rerolling again on a new server! Thanks but no thanks.
I bought SWTOR and have enjoyed my time in the game, theres so many good games to play at the moment though that I havnet had time to stay in SWTOR, I will come back to it definitely. I want to see the game do well, its a good game and gives you that mmo pve feeling of exploring the world and doing quest's like any good mmo does.
Even so, playing the first month of release, I had people coming up to me asking why the server was so dead. I thought that was very weird, I seem to be the type of player that will continue playing not noticing the population. I played warhammer online, on a dead server not even noticing it(sea of malice server) untill it was closed down, I guess I cant say I didnt notice it, cause when ID log into the server, there would be like one other person on the entire server!
I think SWTOR needs alot of things, namely better optimization and social interaction being the most basic things that your average joe might notice playing the game. If it cant do the social interaction thing, this game is going to drop well below a million subscribers soon, so when we see the next player population count I think the anticipation of SWTOR pulling off a upset of being sucessfull might be fully evaporated.
Seeing EA suffer is very heartwarming to me. Not on a gaming level but a business one. As for the fan base. Let me remind you that I was a beta tester, who was banned from the forums because I discussed the clunky responsiveness of the game. Spoke negatively about the hypocracy of the beating on a single boss like WOW issues. Not very heroic concept, and said it would come back to haunt them if they took this WoW approach.
Not only was i banned, but the thread had over 200+ fanbois telling me I was a hater and troll. I shook that off. Even bought my son a copy. But then when basic facts about the game became obvious to all but the demented few, its hard to not enjoy the misery they so deserve. So like I said, I'm more than willing to once again wait it out and get the final laugh here. To me, there is no doubt about where this game is headed, its just a matter of when, not if. Pardon me for smiling for being patient.
What you just described though is gaming forums as a whole. The same thing happens to many who post a concern or opinion that isn't positive about any game. As for your banning, I don't know what you wrote or how you wrote it so won't comment on that.
As for the "fanbois", It's not exclusive behavior to TOR and it's not any more prominent from it's community. I've seen it everywhere I've been when it comes to gaming, be it MMO's, shooters, consoles etc..
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Its like 5 screens of info. No one is posting your frakkin screenshots. Use the server status page like everyone else. This is not a fucking court of law...burden of proof is on whoever needs proof. You're on a computer ..it's not hard to verify info despite how busy your life must be.
They could name their population labels using drink sizes and it would have the same effect. Small, Medium, Big Gulp, Super Big Gulp. Do I know how many ounces are in a Small? Nope. I just know it is tiny relative to the others. In their defense every MMO does it and it's pretty darn frustrating that they can't just post the actual population of the server.
Oh..I agree with you completely....but thats pretty much what any screenshot would show and it was easy enough to find. That was my point.
I think we'd all be surprised (pleasantly or otherwise) by actual population numbers from all the MMOs. It's all talk. I just find a server that's good for me and go.
Somehow I get his feeling that this thread, a week from now, is going to be similiar to that thread about how 1.2 was a perfect patch.
I must ask, do you guys practice the new non trinity combat system? I notice you guys take turns on putting out threads that end up humiliating yourselves and send you into a downed state a day or two later, then someone else steps up and takes over the tanking till you recover.
I beg to differ. I'm sure in a few weeks they will provide the exact proof they need when BW state a significant overwhelming vast majority of people currently playing the game are paying customers. Therefore proving to them the game is not only growing but their original estimate of 80% retention is clearly wrong and should be much higher at around 90%
I wonder if that statement comes before or after the CEO is canned. After all, the CFO was thrown under the bus for the last false claim. They will need a scapegoat if someone slips on the truth again.
Bio gives away free time to practically all the former players; former players come back to see if 1.2 is worth coming back to; this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy.
Wrong...flat wrong jedi Convenant went full, Fatman had a 35 min que, several others, just cant remember their names. MOST were standard. BTW, Standard is what you want for server stability anyway. Keep trying tho Im here all week to help with the misinformation.
Wow, you can see into the future? You're amazing! What's next week's lottery numbers?
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Bio gives away free time to practically all the former players; former players come back to see if 1.2 is worth coming back to; this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy.
Wrong...flat wrong jedi Convenant went full, Fatman had a 35 min que, several others, just cant remember their names. MOST were standard. BTW, Standard is what you want for server stability anyway. Keep trying tho Im here all week to help with the misinformation.
Wow, you can see into the future? You're amazing! What's next week's lottery numbers?
Somehow I get his feeling that this thread, a week from now, is going to be similiar to that thread about how 1.2 was a perfect patch.
I must ask, do you guys practice the new non trinity combat system? I notice you guys take turns on putting out threads that end up humiliating yourselves and send you into a downed state a day or two later, then someone else steps up and takes over the tanking till you recover.
I beg to differ. I'm sure in a few weeks they will provide the exact proof they need when BW state a significant overwhelming vast majority of people currently playing the game are paying customers. Therefore proving to them the game is not only growing but their original estimate of 80% retention is clearly wrong and should be much higher at around 90%
I wonder if that statement comes before or after the CEO is canned. After all, the CFO was thrown under the bus for the last false claim. They will need a scapegoat if someone slips on the truth again.
Somehow I get his feeling that this thread, a week from now, is going to be similiar to that thread about how 1.2 was a perfect patch.
I must ask, do you guys practice the new non trinity combat system? I notice you guys take turns on putting out threads that end up humiliating yourselves and send you into a downed state a day or two later, then someone else steps up and takes over the tanking till you recover.
I beg to differ. I'm sure in a few weeks they will provide the exact proof they need when BW state a significant overwhelming vast majority of people currently playing the game are paying customers. Therefore proving to them the game is not only growing but their original estimate of 80% retention is clearly wrong and should be much higher at around 90%
I wonder if that statement comes before or after the CEO is canned. After all, the CFO was thrown under the bus for the last false claim. They will need a scapegoat if someone slips on the truth again.
What in the 9 hells did this person just say?
Just keep thinking what you think, this ins't the reality you are looking for.
I wonder if that statement comes before or after the CEO is canned. After all, the CFO was thrown under the bus for the last false claim. They will need a scapegoat if someone slips on the truth again.
Thing is though they never lied. If anything their vague statements both times they mentioned paid subs proved to me that things were not faring as well as they hoped. Well...that and my own personal experiences in game and on some servers I played on. It was the fans and some sites that jumped to imaginary numbers based on their statements. Not BW...
The fact they did it two times in a row should have been a glaring red fucking flag. But instead some amazingly trotted it around like it was a good thing.
Probably will do it again too. Can thank the free trial offers to ensure another vague paying sub statement coming to forums near you. Now in 3D!
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Bio gives away free time to practically all the former players; former players come back to see if 1.2 is worth coming back to; this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy.
Wrong...flat wrong jedi Convenant went full, Fatman had a 35 min que, several others, just cant remember their names. MOST were standard. BTW, Standard is what you want for server stability anyway. Keep trying tho Im here all week to help with the misinformation.
Wow, you can see into the future? You're amazing! What's next week's lottery numbers?
Huh?
Here, let me spell it out for you: If you read my original post instead of spewing your fanboism all over the face of this forum, you'd notice that I said, and I quote, this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy. You replied that I was flat wrong - how would you know unless you're an amazing future-seer-who-sees-things-in-the-future guy? Do you actually know for sure that next week the servers will be jammed packed? No, you don't. I believe the odds are more than good the servers will be back down to their previous deadness prior to Bio's game-time-giveaway-extravaganza. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
That's because they artificially inflated the populations of the servers by providing free game time for old and "valued" subscribers.
Come back to me in 30 days again and we'll see how well the game is doing. People will go back to requesting much needed server merges and characters transfers because the majority of the servers are dead and will continue remain to be ghost towns.
The apologists for this game are just downright pathetic. I am glad that i stopped playing this poorly executed mess. The community is even worse.
Im not apolgizing for anything,Just for kicks how do you even back up your statement "artifically inflated" server status? Just here to clear up the misinformation somewhat. BTW, This same argument started 2 Weeks after launch LOL, then it was after the 1st billing period, then it was after the first game update, then it was 1.2 update, whats next? Thats right anything the GW2 shills can make up. BTW, GW2 will be out soon, cut and paste these comments to a word file and prepare to use them again, cause guess what those forums will be the SAME way. =D
It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor. Also, what does Guild Wars 2 have anything to do with what i said? Could you sound any more non sensical?
This is still the free week reactivation week right? Also the start of the free month for lvl 50? I would expect it to be busy. Of course I don't think TOR is going to fail by any reasonable metric anyway. It is a decent game though it could be better. It has a great story. I don't think they distinguished themselves enough from WoW but even so, there is no shortage of starwars fans out there. The game might shrink some, there might even be a server merger some day but the game will still be a long ways from failing.
That's because they artificially inflated the populations of the servers by providing free game time for old and "valued" subscribers.
Come back to me in 30 days again and we'll see how well the game is doing. People will go back to requesting much needed server merges and characters transfers because the majority of the servers are dead and will continue remain to be ghost towns.
The apologists for this game are just downright pathetic. I am glad that i stopped playing this poorly executed mess. The community is even worse.
Im not apolgizing for anything,Just for kicks how do you even back up your statement "artifically inflated" server status? Just here to clear up the misinformation somewhat. BTW, This same argument started 2 Weeks after launch LOL, then it was after the 1st billing period, then it was after the first game update, then it was 1.2 update, whats next? Thats right anything the GW2 shills can make up. BTW, GW2 will be out soon, cut and paste these comments to a word file and prepare to use them again, cause guess what those forums will be the SAME way. =D
It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor. Also, what does Guild Wars 2 have anything to do with what i said? Could you sound any more non sensical?
Um you didnt answer my question, where did you get your information they artifically inflated the server status? Concrete proof not just "because? LOLZ"
Um you didnt answer my question, where did you get your information they artifically inflated the server status? Concrete proof not just "because? LOLZ"
Bio gives away free time to practically all the former players; former players come back to see if 1.2 is worth coming back to; this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy.
Wrong...flat wrong jedi Convenant went full, Fatman had a 35 min que, several others, just cant remember their names. MOST were standard. BTW, Standard is what you want for server stability anyway. Keep trying tho Im here all week to help with the misinformation.
Wow, you can see into the future? You're amazing! What's next week's lottery numbers?
Huh?
Here, let me spell it out for you: If you read my original post instead of spewing your fanboism all over the face of this forum, you'd notice that I said, and I quote, this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy. You replied that I was flat wrong - how would you know unless you're an amazing future-seer-who-sees-things-in-the-future guy? Do you actually know for sure that next week the servers will be jammed packed? No, you don't. I believe the odds are more than good the servers will be back down to their previous deadness prior to Bio's game-time-giveaway-extravaganza. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
Technically...you're just guessing too. No less a "Nostradamus" then the one you accuse.
I happen to THINK the pops will drop back too..how far..I have no clue . I hope I'm wrong. If I'm not then I hope they don't drop too much as I still enjoy the game. Then again..despite the drop since launch I've never had much of a problem On "The Ebon Hawk" server.
I will like to see someone poll and headcount on a good server how many players originated on that server or rerolled there because their original server is dead.
I'm curious to know if the good servers are able to maintain retention or living off refugees.
Ya I would say there are reason why so many people were on this weekend. But I dont see the big deal on how many people are playing as long as your having fun or not, I wasnt so I quit, but to those still enjoying themselves then enjoy.
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Cause your opinion is obviously the only one that mattered? Self importanace is very unbecoming. And so much hate over a GAME is pathetic
Please do not personally attack other users or post inflammatory comments that bait fans of a game.
Apparently I wasn't alone.
I beg to differ. I'm sure in a few weeks they will provide the exact proof they need when BW state a significant overwhelming vast majority of people currently playing the game are paying customers. Therefore proving to them the game is not only growing but their original estimate of 80% retention is clearly wrong and should be much higher at around 90%
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
That argument goes both ways as well right? Apparently
Well, in a way he is right!
I have proven in several posts how bad the average population is on a STANDARD load server.
And yet those Bioware "fans" keep spouting about hundreds of players on fleet, hundreds of people on each planet, with several instances up and running on each planet.... yada yada yada! Without backing it up with screenshots!
As I haven't seen any of that kind of activity since the first week/two weeks of launch.
My two servers I play on, where both VERY HEAVY to FULL load the first 3 weeks or so, with those kind of numbers yes.
But ever since week 4 it has gone more and more downhill... and now the average activity is a mere shadow of it's former past.
Finding groups is a total pain in the butt! when you have only an average of 5-12 people running around on each planet.
Doing flashpoints is just as worse, when you got only 30ish people online on Fleet during primetime.
Queue times for Warzones have skyrocketed since the last month or two.
FACT is! There are only a handful servers left with a healthy popultion! Mostly due to lots of desperate people from LIGHT/STANDARD pop servers rerolling there.
After so many chars on my current two servers... I can't stomach rerolling again on a new server! Thanks but no thanks.
I bought SWTOR and have enjoyed my time in the game, theres so many good games to play at the moment though that I havnet had time to stay in SWTOR, I will come back to it definitely. I want to see the game do well, its a good game and gives you that mmo pve feeling of exploring the world and doing quest's like any good mmo does.
Even so, playing the first month of release, I had people coming up to me asking why the server was so dead. I thought that was very weird, I seem to be the type of player that will continue playing not noticing the population. I played warhammer online, on a dead server not even noticing it(sea of malice server) untill it was closed down, I guess I cant say I didnt notice it, cause when ID log into the server, there would be like one other person on the entire server!
I think SWTOR needs alot of things, namely better optimization and social interaction being the most basic things that your average joe might notice playing the game. If it cant do the social interaction thing, this game is going to drop well below a million subscribers soon, so when we see the next player population count I think the anticipation of SWTOR pulling off a upset of being sucessfull might be fully evaporated.
What you just described though is gaming forums as a whole. The same thing happens to many who post a concern or opinion that isn't positive about any game. As for your banning, I don't know what you wrote or how you wrote it so won't comment on that.
As for the "fanbois", It's not exclusive behavior to TOR and it's not any more prominent from it's community. I've seen it everywhere I've been when it comes to gaming, be it MMO's, shooters, consoles etc..
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Oh..I agree with you completely....but thats pretty much what any screenshot would show and it was easy enough to find. That was my point.
I think we'd all be surprised (pleasantly or otherwise) by actual population numbers from all the MMOs. It's all talk. I just find a server that's good for me and go.
I wonder if that statement comes before or after the CEO is canned. After all, the CFO was thrown under the bus for the last false claim. They will need a scapegoat if someone slips on the truth again.
Wow, you can see into the future? You're amazing! What's next week's lottery numbers?
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Huh?
What in the 9 hells did this person just say?
I half expected to see a just kidding as the first post. HAHAHA man that would have been funny.
Just keep thinking what you think, this ins't the reality you are looking for.
Thing is though they never lied. If anything their vague statements both times they mentioned paid subs proved to me that things were not faring as well as they hoped. Well...that and my own personal experiences in game and on some servers I played on. It was the fans and some sites that jumped to imaginary numbers based on their statements. Not BW...
The fact they did it two times in a row should have been a glaring red fucking flag. But instead some amazingly trotted it around like it was a good thing.
Probably will do it again too. Can thank the free trial offers to ensure another vague paying sub statement coming to forums near you. Now in 3D!
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Here, let me spell it out for you: If you read my original post instead of spewing your fanboism all over the face of this forum, you'd notice that I said, and I quote, this time next week the servers will be back at their Standard to Low capacity, with The Fat Man the only server ever to touch Heavy. You replied that I was flat wrong - how would you know unless you're an amazing future-seer-who-sees-things-in-the-future guy? Do you actually know for sure that next week the servers will be jammed packed? No, you don't. I believe the odds are more than good the servers will be back down to their previous deadness prior to Bio's game-time-giveaway-extravaganza. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor. Also, what does Guild Wars 2 have anything to do with what i said? Could you sound any more non sensical?
This is still the free week reactivation week right? Also the start of the free month for lvl 50? I would expect it to be busy. Of course I don't think TOR is going to fail by any reasonable metric anyway. It is a decent game though it could be better. It has a great story. I don't think they distinguished themselves enough from WoW but even so, there is no shortage of starwars fans out there. The game might shrink some, there might even be a server merger some day but the game will still be a long ways from failing.
All die, so die well.
Maybe it's that you single out one side and their pretense, yet make no mention of the other?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Um you didnt answer my question, where did you get your information they artifically inflated the server status? Concrete proof not just "because? LOLZ"
Technically...you're just guessing too. No less a "Nostradamus" then the one you accuse.
I happen to THINK the pops will drop back too..how far..I have no clue . I hope I'm wrong. If I'm not then I hope they don't drop too much as I still enjoy the game. Then again..despite the drop since launch I've never had much of a problem On "The Ebon Hawk" server.
Haven't seen anyone do this and don't know why.
I will like to see someone poll and headcount on a good server how many players originated on that server or rerolled there because their original server is dead.
I'm curious to know if the good servers are able to maintain retention or living off refugees.
Ya I would say there are reason why so many people were on this weekend. But I dont see the big deal on how many people are playing as long as your having fun or not, I wasnt so I quit, but to those still enjoying themselves then enjoy.