If you played 600 hours in one month to max out ur character its your own fault that ur paying for nothing. You maxed out your character at 2 cents an hour, that practically is for free. You think that companies should give special benifits to ppl that have no life and use up the most bandwith and gobble up all the content as fast as they can? Do you call up your cable company and ask them to stop billing you when you cant find anything to watch on t.v? Cancel your account all u want but they still get their money anyways, why do u think u pay more per one month sections then u do for multiple month sections.
You however dont respect others views. I ''barely'' play around 300 hours per month and I dont take maximised roads to it. WoW take about 200 hours to get to 60.
And no, I dont say I deserve more then any other player, I just say I need stuff I enjoy to do or I am out like every other player. If my cable company would be running, endlessly, the same 200 hours of programs, you could be sure after 1 month I would cancel. Or maybe after 3 months, I am a very casual TV watcher.
MMORPGs that have nothing to offer once I am maxed are not going to see my subscription and they wont see it either for most peoples that are maxed. If they want me to play or pay for their game, I need a motivation and an interest in it.
I never pay for any monthly fee in WoW, I maintain CoH for a few months, and EQ for years.
Monthly fees suppose I always have more INTERESTING stuff to do in the game, this is the unofficial bragging of the devs who make a MMORPG like Verant did! Like everyone else, I deserve stuff to do, which I am denied if I am maxed! Which is like a suicide from a company.
PS: $15 US is almost half a day of work at minimal wages, while $10 was over an hour, and THIS make a difference, I wont maintain half a day of work for something I dont play a LOT on. And you can be freaking sure I wont maintain more then 1 account and to garbage with SoE Station pass for me...and...guess what? I am not alone to think in such a way! Devs always panics when the players pool reach the level limit, because they know their subscriptions are fading at that exact moment, and the more time that pass, the more players who reach that point...and possibly leave. Some players may, out of loyalty, temporarily support a game even when they are maxed, but this is like a fashion for the average supporter, after a few months bored, they leave especially if they already support CoH that way not long ago, then they are unlikely to do it again.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I am trying desperately not to crack up. First, $15 is nothing. At minimum wage it is three hours of work. THREE HOURS of your life for a months worth of entertainment. Further, the vast majority of people make significantly more the min wage. So a few lazy 16 year old kids can't afford it. Boo-freakin-ho. If $15 a month is expensive to you, spend less time playing WoW, and more time getting a job. Even a brain dead idiot can get a janitor job for min wage. For most people, in the time it takes to take a dump at work, they have paid for WoW.
Second, to the guy who keeps bitching that if you max out your levels you shouldn't have to pay, I can only laugh my ass off. Your "ultimatum" comes down this; either WoW stop charging you money or you will leave. Now, I know you think this a threat, but perhaps you need to reexamine the economics of this threat. The two options you have given WoW is either 1) Continue to pay your bandwidth and content costs but not get any money, or 2) Don't pay your band width and content costs and not get any money. Granted, I took an introductory economics course 10 years ago so I might have the advantage here, but I am pretty sure option 2, the one where you quit and they get to stop supporting your 300 hour a month addiction, is the better one for WoW.
High level people a burden on these games. A level 60 looser in WoW is the guy you need to constantly make up new content for, consumes the most amount of bandwidth time, and is also in the vast minority. You should be thankful that these games spend so much time catering to the high end game when it turns out that you guys are not only the most expensive to support, buy you also pay the least amount of money per hour.
Thankfully, WoW has gotten a clue. They have realized that it is a-okay to loose a few level 60 people if it means that they get a small horde of people with jobs playing on lower levels who are completely content. Instead of having to slug through levels and take days to do it (like EQ), they get to do it in hours. Sure, the people with far too much time on their hands might not like that, but everyone else does. OMG, they have catered to the casual gamer. Is anyone going to pretend to be shocked that the first game that is balanced for the casual gamer and not the 16 year old kid in his mom's basement without a job is by far the most successful MMORPG of all times? I'll give you a subtle hint... the answer is no.
So, you can remain firm in your belief that a maxed out character is entitled to a free acount, but I am pretty sure that Blizzard is going to remain firm in their belief that they simply don't care. Your level 60 account pays just as much out as the guy with a level 15. If they have to pick between a level 60 guy who logs 300 hours in a month, or a level 15 guy who logs 20 hours in a month, guess who they are going to pick each and every single time?
Originally posted by Bama1267 For the amount of time I play.......im totally ripping them off,lol.
LMAO, I was thinking the exact same thing! We're like the 350lb fat people that spend 4 hours at the chinese all you can eat buffet. "You go now! You be here 4 hour!"
My take on it is simple, I certainly don't mind paying a 10-15 dollar monthly fee to play as long as I see results for my money. Results as in updates, new material, good support and so on. If I'm playing a game and I'm asking my self things like "I wish they'd give us some new material" or "When the hell are they going to fix...." THEN I'll have a problem with a monthly fee. I realize you "can't make everyone happy" but anyone with any common sense can see an effort being made. That should be good enough for us, no?
And no, I dont say I deserve more then any other player, I just say I need stuff I enjoy to do or I am out like every other player. If my cable company would be running, endlessly, the same 200 hours of programs, you could be sure after 1 month I would cancel. Or maybe after 3 months, I am a very casual TV watcher.
MMORPGs that have nothing to offer once I am maxed are not going to see my subscription and they wont see it either for most peoples that are maxed. If they want me to play or pay for their game, I need a motivation and an interest in it.
I never pay for any monthly fee in WoW, I maintain CoH for a few months, and EQ for years.
Monthly fees suppose I always have more INTERESTING stuff to do in the game, this is the unofficial bragging of the devs who make a MMORPG like Verant did! Like everyone else, I deserve stuff to do, which I am denied if I am maxed! Which is like a suicide from a company.
PS: $15 US is almost half a day of work at minimal wages, while $10 was over an hour, and THIS make a difference, I wont maintain half a day of work for something I dont play a LOT on. And you can be freaking sure I wont maintain more then 1 account and to garbage with SoE Station pass for me...and...guess what? I am not alone to think in such a way! Devs always panics when the players pool reach the level limit, because they know their subscriptions are fading at that exact moment, and the more time that pass, the more players who reach that point...and possibly leave. Some players may, out of loyalty, temporarily support a game even when they are maxed, but this is like a fashion for the average supporter, after a few months bored, they leave especially if they already support CoH that way not long ago, then they are unlikely to do it again.[/b][/quote]
OK, so what kind if sick mutant are you, does mommy or daddy pay! If you pay no monthly fee in WoW then i think yer stealing. I make $15 an hour for my job (IS Support Specialist), so that's one hour of sitting here reading ppl bitching about not wanting to pay for someones hard work that CONTINUES to work. That's right, I'm at work RIGHT NOW!!!
It's not like paying for one meal at a restaurant, it's like paying $15 to a restaurant and eating there whenever you want as much as you want. If you go to the restaurant and eat everything on the menu then complain that the menu never changes then don't pay dummy. Do you have a right to complain? Yes you do, Can we blame you and call you a whiner for complaining and still playing? Yes. I play CoH a lot, They listen to ppl and are constantly working on things to change the game, each major update has new stuff. That's why I pay to play CoH. If i didn't, I wouldn't have PvP and new powers and stuff to look foreward to. Hell, CoV alone is going to be worth the $15 i pay for CoH. I feel sorry for you if all you are going to do is whine and hope that you get everything you want from Blizz. I respect them as a company, but i think they bit off more than they can chew. I read more complaints about WoW than all other games on this site combined. And yes i have played a lot of other MMOs. I played WoW in beta, then I quit because I found it not for me. Will I ever play it again, and pay for it? Maybe if i see less complaints and more solid positive criticism... yes. And if i end up not liking it, i'll quit.... .
Sold a million copies, but do you want the game to die and run out of content within a few months? No. MMORPGs are evolving games, compared to your average game without monthly fee that remains the same and has the ocassional bug fixes.
And what's expensive about paying 15$ per month? Don't tell me you still buy other games AND play a MMORPG at the same time. They are so time consumming, how can you even consider buying and playing other games at the same time?
I bought Half-Life 2 cause of the hype, amazing game, I was not disapointed, but with the so little gaming time I have these days, I invest all my time into World of Warcraft and only got halfway into Half-Life 2 and never finished it. When will I finish Half-Life 2? Probably only when I get bored of WoW and who knows when that's gonna happen, Blizzard will keep adding more and more stuff all the time, I might never let it go.
So stop buying hundreds of dollars of games every month, only play WoW, and you will see it's the CHEAPEST gaming experience you will have ever experienced in your life.
I mean think about it. You buy 1 game for 50$, finish it in 1 week. Buy another game for 50$ finish it in 1 week. Already for only 2 weeks of gameplay you've spended 100$ of games in less than a month.
MMORPGs, you buy the game once for 50$, pay only 15$ per month and STOP buying games for a long time cause you won't have time to play anything else. You've saved over 85$ per month.
So please explain to me WHAT is expensive about paying 15$ per month for a longterm evolving game that will keep you hooked for a long period of time and stopping you from purchasing more games? Please explain.
Originally posted by Anofalye I respect others opinions, but I am firm in my beliefs. If I am maxed, they wont get $1 until they add new stuff for me to do, it mean I cancel account or it is free, it is up to them.
When I reach the ''TOP'', the game is over, I am done with it, I understand some peoples feel everything just start, but for me, it is over, there is nothing left to do(unless gear acquisition is interesting, forget it if raiding).
I may sound harsh, but their fees, their personnal to pay, their expenses, those are none of my concerns as a customer. Is the product worth paying $15 per month? If I am maxed, the answer is no. If they rather have me leave then make the game free until they add stuff, it is fine with me, but getting someone to return is always harder when they stop completely, not to mention others players may appreciate or not a maxed character in game, to ask them stuff, yet, I really dont mind, cancelling fees and stopping to play is a fine solution for me.
as i said. so be it.
But you want to tell me that you never do alts?
And i still believe, fine. better one player gone than one remaining, using resources and not paying because that is like a player gone BUT is consuming server resources that could be used by somebody else. i understand the community and all that, but frankly i think there are enough max level people that do not feel the need to change game as soon as they get maxed. (geez, SWG would be a desert if that would be true!.. UO? oh my)
in addition... i am curious on what kind of business model you had in mind. No fees for ... ever? or until next patch? and then? fees for a month and then no more?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Originally posted by LoStCaUz3 $15 a month is less than going to the movies for one night. Look at it this way: You're a fan of the movies, right? Around here, it costs $8 to get in. Oh of course, you won't go alone, taking a date? $16 easy. Now, I know you don't wanna be hungry while you're watching the movie, do you? $5+ for popcorn. Tasty...salty, though. Salt makes me kinda thirsty. Gotta get a coke. Another $4. That's $25 right there. I'd rather spend $15 a month than $25 every week. Cut a lawn and you can play for a month.
I think that $15 per month for an MMO is quite fair and I am more than willing to pay for it as long as the game keeps me interested. Compare the monthy rate of MMOs to other monthly fees. I am sure your telephone bill is more that that. I am sure you spend a lot more on gasoline each month if you drive a car. Fifteen dollars each month is reasonable enough that I play four different MMOs. I may only play one of them for a few hours during one month. I am not stuck on the computer the whol;e time either, but I know it is there if I want to have some fun. It is hard to find fun that is accessable twenty-four hours a day for seven days a week. So pay fifteen measly dollars a month and have fun playing a game that you enjoy.
Don't care much either since I am working, but I understand that younger people might have a more difficult time, but so far the game gives credit for the fees imo...
I think that without fees, then they cant advance with patches. But it is kinda a bit too high for me since i dont work at all and live at home cause im too young.
Originally posted by Jatez Well I'm canadian, so its more like 20 dollars for me. After I spend $60 on a game, is it fair to be paying $20 more dollars every month.
That makes sense, Imagine how much money they spend in places like Japan. 1500 per month? HOW CAN THEY AFFORD IT?
If games were free for download and then came the fees I'd say okay, that's somewhat reasonable. But with it being the way it is they sure are expensive. First off you gotta buy the package that might cost up to 50$ (in many cases you don't even have a trial or demo to judge if you actually like the game, bad luck if you don't). Then your required to pay monthly fees of 15$ (that's 180$/year!). Sooner or later some 'expansions' will show up which cost another 30$ or so and totally revert the 'new content' arguement for those 'monthly fees' some of you named. But best of all SOE has launched it's virtual shopping franchise, despicable imho, thus some people will even pay good money for virtual items. If SOE are successful with their scheming others will do so aswell and we might end up with special and unique uberitems being introduced just for sale for real money, a terrifying idea. Fact is there is no regulation whatsoever and the prices are too high and this has always been the case in the PC franchise. How can the industry explain for instance that one pays the same amount for say Half Life which kept one busy from 1996 to present (if that's your thing) while games like Max Payne take a mere 8 hours to finish and that's it, shouldn't there be more content or replayability for the same amount of money? Not to mention that classic economic rules like 'mass production equals lowprice' doesn't apply here, WoW is the biggest game so far but also one of the most expensive with the poorest amount of CS, so something is definitely wrong here.
What I really don't understand though, usually people will always argue with prices being too high on everything you can think of, but some 65% on this board actually think prices of MMORPG are reasonable which just shows how fubar and addicted a broad mass of MMORPG customers really are, they'd probably pay more if asked to.
Originally posted by punchline cheap??? not unless you have a job....15 bucks a month X 12 months a year... 180 dollars a year... and lets say you plan on playing it for 5 years ... 900 bucks is quite a bit of change to throw around.. just play guild wars and everythign will be ok
15 bucks a month for 24/6.7 days a week is cheap as hell. Man even way back when. Mow 1 lawn and get 20 bucks easy. Sorry to say but like they above guy said. Get a Job. About the 12x a year thing. Name one thing you dont do repeatedly. Hence soda, candy bars, or beer. I do have to admit the guild wars paying scale works better I think. No new content no paycheck for them. With the monthly charge you can delay as long you dont lose clients. The other hand paying monthly does give you little more power then not paying with there support. They will do what they can to keep from losing clients.
honestly i think the price can be lover, blizard makes around 12 million each month with this game , they only need around 5 mill for all the wages etc and server costs and make a profit the rest can be given back to the fans so they would only have to pay $5-6 but 15.00 is still very cheap
In my opinion, I think you should buy the game and play as you please. Fees are unnecessary and I'd rather chill with my friends for free than pay $15 a month to sit on my ass. I like mmorpg's, but I'd rather not pay monthly for them.
i think fees are in place for a reason man i would quit playing if the game was infested with idiots and spamming little kids these fee's keep up the game and the company (god knows they deserve a lil green for making it !) and they make more stuff for it cause if they didnt put out an a expansion ppl would get bored poeple are fickle they need "new" and "more" me personally so long as you give me that im good charge me 15 bucks fine at least i got have lil kids spamming oneoneone in general chat the fee's make it to were you have to be serois about it to want to play. i will not play a game thats infested with children heh that why they made toon town lol. na but really idiots ruin a game when its free it atracts more so they sell a couple copyies guild war will always be just that guild wars( i havent played it but alot of the ppl i know that have say content is lacking) but wow will grow and change in to somthing else given enough time,patches and expansions and im okay with that it keeps me stimulated and that what i pay my 15 bucks a month for.
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You however dont respect others views. I ''barely'' play around 300 hours per month and I dont take maximised roads to it. WoW take about 200 hours to get to 60.
And no, I dont say I deserve more then any other player, I just say I need stuff I enjoy to do or I am out like every other player. If my cable company would be running, endlessly, the same 200 hours of programs, you could be sure after 1 month I would cancel. Or maybe after 3 months, I am a very casual TV watcher.
MMORPGs that have nothing to offer once I am maxed are not going to see my subscription and they wont see it either for most peoples that are maxed. If they want me to play or pay for their game, I need a motivation and an interest in it.
I never pay for any monthly fee in WoW, I maintain CoH for a few months, and EQ for years.
Monthly fees suppose I always have more INTERESTING stuff to do in the game, this is the unofficial bragging of the devs who make a MMORPG like Verant did! Like everyone else, I deserve stuff to do, which I am denied if I am maxed! Which is like a suicide from a company.
PS: $15 US is almost half a day of work at minimal wages, while $10 was over an hour, and THIS make a difference, I wont maintain half a day of work for something I dont play a LOT on. And you can be freaking sure I wont maintain more then 1 account and to garbage with SoE Station pass for me...and...guess what? I am not alone to think in such a way! Devs always panics when the players pool reach the level limit, because they know their subscriptions are fading at that exact moment, and the more time that pass, the more players who reach that point...and possibly leave. Some players may, out of loyalty, temporarily support a game even when they are maxed, but this is like a fashion for the average supporter, after a few months bored, they leave especially if they already support CoH that way not long ago, then they are unlikely to do it again.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I am trying desperately not to crack up. First, $15 is nothing. At minimum wage it is three hours of work. THREE HOURS of your life for a months worth of entertainment. Further, the vast majority of people make significantly more the min wage. So a few lazy 16 year old kids can't afford it. Boo-freakin-ho. If $15 a month is expensive to you, spend less time playing WoW, and more time getting a job. Even a brain dead idiot can get a janitor job for min wage. For most people, in the time it takes to take a dump at work, they have paid for WoW.
Second, to the guy who keeps bitching that if you max out your levels you shouldn't have to pay, I can only laugh my ass off. Your "ultimatum" comes down this; either WoW stop charging you money or you will leave. Now, I know you think this a threat, but perhaps you need to reexamine the economics of this threat. The two options you have given WoW is either 1) Continue to pay your bandwidth and content costs but not get any money, or 2) Don't pay your band width and content costs and not get any money. Granted, I took an introductory economics course 10 years ago so I might have the advantage here, but I am pretty sure option 2, the one where you quit and they get to stop supporting your 300 hour a month addiction, is the better one for WoW.
High level people a burden on these games. A level 60 looser in WoW is the guy you need to constantly make up new content for, consumes the most amount of bandwidth time, and is also in the vast minority. You should be thankful that these games spend so much time catering to the high end game when it turns out that you guys are not only the most expensive to support, buy you also pay the least amount of money per hour.
Thankfully, WoW has gotten a clue. They have realized that it is a-okay to loose a few level 60 people if it means that they get a small horde of people with jobs playing on lower levels who are completely content. Instead of having to slug through levels and take days to do it (like EQ), they get to do it in hours. Sure, the people with far too much time on their hands might not like that, but everyone else does. OMG, they have catered to the casual gamer. Is anyone going to pretend to be shocked that the first game that is balanced for the casual gamer and not the 16 year old kid in his mom's basement without a job is by far the most successful MMORPG of all times? I'll give you a subtle hint... the answer is no.
So, you can remain firm in your belief that a maxed out character is entitled to a free acount, but I am pretty sure that Blizzard is going to remain firm in their belief that they simply don't care. Your level 60 account pays just as much out as the guy with a level 15. If they have to pick between a level 60 guy who logs 300 hours in a month, or a level 15 guy who logs 20 hours in a month, guess who they are going to pick each and every single time?
LMAO, I was thinking the exact same thing! We're like the 350lb fat people that spend 4 hours at the chinese all you can eat buffet. "You go now! You be here 4 hour!"
My take on it is simple, I certainly don't mind paying a 10-15 dollar monthly fee to play as long as I see results for my money. Results as in updates, new material, good support and so on. If I'm playing a game and I'm asking my self things like "I wish they'd give us some new material" or "When the hell are they going to fix...." THEN I'll have a problem with a monthly fee. I realize you "can't make everyone happy" but anyone with any common sense can see an effort being made. That should be good enough for us, no?
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And no, I dont say I deserve more then any other player, I just say I need stuff I enjoy to do or I am out like every other player. If my cable company would be running, endlessly, the same 200 hours of programs, you could be sure after 1 month I would cancel. Or maybe after 3 months, I am a very casual TV watcher.
MMORPGs that have nothing to offer once I am maxed are not going to see my subscription and they wont see it either for most peoples that are maxed. If they want me to play or pay for their game, I need a motivation and an interest in it.
I never pay for any monthly fee in WoW, I maintain CoH for a few months, and EQ for years.
Monthly fees suppose I always have more INTERESTING stuff to do in the game, this is the unofficial bragging of the devs who make a MMORPG like Verant did! Like everyone else, I deserve stuff to do, which I am denied if I am maxed! Which is like a suicide from a company.
PS: $15 US is almost half a day of work at minimal wages, while $10 was over an hour, and THIS make a difference, I wont maintain half a day of work for something I dont play a LOT on. And you can be freaking sure I wont maintain more then 1 account and to garbage with SoE Station pass for me...and...guess what? I am not alone to think in such a way! Devs always panics when the players pool reach the level limit, because they know their subscriptions are fading at that exact moment, and the more time that pass, the more players who reach that point...and possibly leave. Some players may, out of loyalty, temporarily support a game even when they are maxed, but this is like a fashion for the average supporter, after a few months bored, they leave especially if they already support CoH that way not long ago, then they are unlikely to do it again.[/b][/quote]
OK, so what kind if sick mutant are you, does mommy or daddy pay! If you pay no monthly fee in WoW then i think yer stealing. I make $15 an hour for my job (IS Support Specialist), so that's one hour of sitting here reading ppl bitching about not wanting to pay for someones hard work that CONTINUES to work. That's right, I'm at work RIGHT NOW!!!
It's not like paying for one meal at a restaurant, it's like paying $15 to a restaurant and eating there whenever you want as much as you want. If you go to the restaurant and eat everything on the menu then complain that the menu never changes then don't pay dummy. Do you have a right to complain? Yes you do, Can we blame you and call you a whiner for complaining and still playing? Yes. I play CoH a lot, They listen to ppl and are constantly working on things to change the game, each major update has new stuff. That's why I pay to play CoH. If i didn't, I wouldn't have PvP and new powers and stuff to look foreward to. Hell, CoV alone is going to be worth the $15 i pay for CoH. I feel sorry for you if all you are going to do is whine and hope that you get everything you want from Blizz. I respect them as a company, but i think they bit off more than they can chew. I read more complaints about WoW than all other games on this site combined. And yes i have played a lot of other MMOs. I played WoW in beta, then I quit because I found it not for me. Will I ever play it again, and pay for it? Maybe if i see less complaints and more solid positive criticism... yes. And if i end up not liking it, i'll quit.... .
Sold a million copies, but do you want the game to die and run out of content within a few months? No. MMORPGs are evolving games, compared to your average game without monthly fee that remains the same and has the ocassional bug fixes.
And what's expensive about paying 15$ per month? Don't tell me you still buy other games AND play a MMORPG at the same time. They are so time consumming, how can you even consider buying and playing other games at the same time?
I bought Half-Life 2 cause of the hype, amazing game, I was not disapointed, but with the so little gaming time I have these days, I invest all my time into World of Warcraft and only got halfway into Half-Life 2 and never finished it. When will I finish Half-Life 2? Probably only when I get bored of WoW and who knows when that's gonna happen, Blizzard will keep adding more and more stuff all the time, I might never let it go.
So stop buying hundreds of dollars of games every month, only play WoW, and you will see it's the CHEAPEST gaming experience you will have ever experienced in your life.
I mean think about it. You buy 1 game for 50$, finish it in 1 week. Buy another game for 50$ finish it in 1 week. Already for only 2 weeks of gameplay you've spended 100$ of games in less than a month.
MMORPGs, you buy the game once for 50$, pay only 15$ per month and STOP buying games for a long time cause you won't have time to play anything else. You've saved over 85$ per month.
So please explain to me WHAT is expensive about paying 15$ per month for a longterm evolving game that will keep you hooked for a long period of time and stopping you from purchasing more games? Please explain.
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they are high i agree, some of us are kids u know!
as i said. so be it.
But you want to tell me that you never do alts?
And i still believe, fine. better one player gone than one remaining, using resources and not paying because that is like a player gone BUT is consuming server resources that could be used by somebody else. i understand the community and all that, but frankly i think there are enough max level people that do not feel the need to change game as soon as they get maxed. (geez, SWG would be a desert if that would be true!.. UO? oh my)
in addition... i am curious on what kind of business model you had in mind. No fees for ... ever? or until next patch? and then? fees for a month and then no more?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
You just gave the perfect example as to why they could charge more in my opinion..
Depends on how much free time you have
That makes sense, Imagine how much money they spend in places like Japan. 1500 per month? HOW CAN THEY AFFORD IT?
oh wait... it doesnt make sense.
If games were free for download and then came the fees I'd say okay, that's somewhat reasonable. But with it being the way it is they sure are expensive. First off you gotta buy the package that might cost up to 50$ (in many cases you don't even have a trial or demo to judge if you actually like the game, bad luck if you don't). Then your required to pay monthly fees of 15$ (that's 180$/year!). Sooner or later some 'expansions' will show up which cost another 30$ or so and totally revert the 'new content' arguement for those 'monthly fees' some of you named. But best of all SOE has launched it's virtual shopping franchise, despicable imho, thus some people will even pay good money for virtual items. If SOE are successful with their scheming others will do so aswell and we might end up with special and unique uberitems being introduced just for sale for real money, a terrifying idea. Fact is there is no regulation whatsoever and the prices are too high and this has always been the case in the PC franchise. How can the industry explain for instance that one pays the same amount for say Half Life which kept one busy from 1996 to present (if that's your thing) while games like Max Payne take a mere 8 hours to finish and that's it, shouldn't there be more content or replayability for the same amount of money? Not to mention that classic economic rules like 'mass production equals lowprice' doesn't apply here, WoW is the biggest game so far but also one of the most expensive with the poorest amount of CS, so something is definitely wrong here.
What I really don't understand though, usually people will always argue with prices being too high on everything you can think of, but some 65% on this board actually think prices of MMORPG are reasonable which just shows how fubar and addicted a broad mass of MMORPG customers really are, they'd probably pay more if asked to.
Frankly, given the number of illiterate dingbats I run into ingame, I'd say they need to up the fees.
I'd gladly pay $25 a month to play on a server where people use proper grammar, and punctuation.
15 bucks a month for 24/6.7 days a week is cheap as hell. Man even way back when. Mow 1 lawn and get 20 bucks easy. Sorry to say but like they above guy said. Get a Job. About the 12x a year thing. Name one thing you dont do repeatedly. Hence soda, candy bars, or beer. I do have to admit the guild wars paying scale works better I think. No new content no paycheck for them. With the monthly charge you can delay as long you dont lose clients. The other hand paying monthly does give you little more power then not paying with there support. They will do what they can to keep from losing clients.
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honestly i think the price can be lover, blizard makes around 12 million each month with this game , they only need around 5 mill for all the wages etc and server costs and make a profit the rest can be given back to the fans so they would only have to pay $5-6 but 15.00 is still very cheap
"Frankly, given the number of illiterate dingbats I run into ingame, I'd say they need to up the fees"
Well said.
Yeah lets stop paying monthly so they wont make any patches and updates, and keep up crappy servers. GOOD IDEA MAN!
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i think fees are in place for a reason man i would quit playing if the game was infested with idiots and spamming little kids these fee's keep up the game and the company (god knows they deserve a lil green for making it !) and they make more stuff for it cause if they didnt put out an a expansion ppl would get bored poeple are fickle they need "new" and "more" me personally so long as you give me that im good charge me 15 bucks fine at least i got have lil kids spamming oneoneone in general chat the fee's make it to were you have to be serois about it to want to play. i will not play a game thats infested with children heh that why they made toon town lol. na but really idiots ruin a game when its free it atracts more so they sell a couple copyies guild war will always be just that guild wars( i havent played it but alot of the ppl i know that have say content is lacking) but wow will grow and change in to somthing else given enough time,patches and expansions and im okay with that it keeps me stimulated and that what i pay my 15 bucks a month for.
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hmmm No seems to be the right answer
i think they need money to live. I dont see why guild wars will last long at all without the money