hey guys. i know this is a little off topic but just stopped by to say hi while im in class. this is my first day of college and my computer class is about to start. ok. im off now. don't want to be caught later
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Originally posted by Amd64_FX_53 Murt This is gone on for too long.I think u have learned by now What ur going to get.Now your just trying to get atention.If u havent learned by now....Hmm
ask people on the website, is this topic for my attention (wtf) or for helping people out with computer related things without making a thousand threads
obviously you're at the point of posing right now, where you feel you need to get the most posts, and are jealous of those who have more than you...
I DON'T CARE HOW MANY POSTS I HAVE
i asked a computer question, that is all, now get off my case
*EDIT
and yes, i "learned" what i was going to get
and I got it
but you can't stop there, UPGRADING IS MANDATORY!
and if you would have read my posts, the last thing i posted was for UPGRADING
*EDIT II
and now if someone can answer this specifically
here's the deal
i need a new CPU, as everyone knows..lol
BUT, i don't wanna spend more than 400 bucks
thing is..i need a new motherboard to, as my biostar m7ncd ultra only supports up to a 3000
so what i'm looking for
1. new cpu, good bang for the buck 2. new motherboard that can hold that cpu 3. heatsink that won't let that cpu burn 3. under 400 bucks
Originally posted by MurtBijani well i guess i can cross from AMD to pentium if it saves me some cash and if it works better thanks bud..i await the information
Crossing back to Pentium wont make you happy. The AMD 64 chip is by far the coolest running cpu on the market. You want a good combo below 400$ go with Master Shakes advice. You want an asus mobo try this combo. Even after shipping your cost will be @ 350$ usd.
Originally posted by MurtBijani thanks bonnie..but it only has 512k cache i'm not saying that's a bad thing..just wondering is there a BIG difference between the ones with 1mg cache and 512kcache? if so..how much is the next cpu with 1mg? lol thanks again
I posted the wrong link for the cpu, you want this one(has fan)its about 10$ more
I have a cpl with 1mb and several with 512. I see no difference in speed. They have pulled back from making them with 1mb as it does nothing for the average joe. With any luck some one with the tech knowledge can explain it for us. I asked at a recent meeting and it was explained why they did it but it all sounded like this to me. http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=retro.wmv
Any way if you still want the 1 mb cache there are 2 in your range.
BTW you can prolly find all this even cheaper on pricecheck or some of the other discount outlets, I just used NewEgg as i knew i could find quick links
LOL just realised the last 2 links where for dtr note books. I'll search out some in pricecheck and post em later.
Good luck!I dont start school till tommorow.I meet my teachers today
Thanks! Now to get busy on the other 5 hours of my homework!
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"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
Ok guys here we go. This is just the Motherboard and CPU COMBO, but I already have everything else I need. Hows this for price....
PC CHIPS M916 Socket 478 DDR MB with Pentium4 3.0Ghz 800FSB CPU & Fan
Product Details
Processor
One Socket 478 supports the Intel Pentium 4 processor with Hyper Threading Technology ready, support 800/533/400MHz FSB
Memory
Two DDR 184-pin 2.5V DIMM Sockets (DDR266/333/400) Maximum: 2GB
Chipset
HT1683 Northbridge and HT1563 Southbridge Chipset Supports six USB 2.0 ports Supports four 32-bits PCI slots of arbitration and decoding for all integrated functions and LPC bus. Audio C-Media CMI9738 AC97 Codec(4 Channel) 8x AGP Support LAN Realtek 10/100BaseT LAN onboard
System BIOS
AMI 2Mb Firmware Hub Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI Support ACPI revision 1.0 specification
Expansion Slots
4 x PCI 1 x AGP (8x) 1 x CNR
Back Panel I/O Ports
PS/2 keyboard and mouse connectors Four USB2.0 Ports and a LAN connector One EPP/ECP mode parallel port One 16550 high-speed serial I/O port Audio ports (Mic, Audio-in, Audio-out)
Onboard ports
IDE connectors supports four IDE devices (Ultra DMA 66/100/133) One FDD connector supports 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 Mode FDDs or LS120 P4 ATX Power Supply Connector (4-Pin 12V power connector require) USB Card Reader Connector (share one USB port from back panel) IrDA header Internal PC speaker header CD ROM/DVD Audio Input header 2 Extra USB2.0 onboard header HDD LED, Reset Switch, Suspend LED, Power Switch headers CPU and System Fan headers
damn nice, except go with an amd 64, imo, i have a 2500 mobile, and it is alot better than the 2.8 ghz 800 fsb 1mb l2 cache p4 i had, so an amd 64 with blow that away, and prices are dropping everyday
Processor: AMD Athlon Xp 2500 Mobile "Barton" Mobo: Abit NF-7 RAM:1 GB Corsair PC3200 Video: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb 256 bit Hard Drive: 80 GB 7200 rpm Seagate "Barracuda" CD/RW: Lite-On 48x read/48x write/24x rewrite/8x dvd read Sound:7.1 Channel Sound Blaster (not audigy) Processor HS and Fan: Thermaltake Volcano 12+ PSU: Antec 420 Watt Case: Powmax Demon ATX Style
Question for some the individuals who know more about the power supply of a computer
Right now I have an AMD Athlon Xp 1800+ Processor while running 512 DDR Memory and running a Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB Video Card.. Curently its being powered by a nice 300 watt power supply.
My question is that in about 3 hours i will be purchasing new parts.. Actually just a PC CHIPS motherboard with a Pentium 4 3.0 GHZ processor 800FSB... This is really the only new thing that I'll be putting in the computer.. Just gonna strip off everything on my current board and put it on this new one. Im curious if the 300 watt Power Supply is OK for the Processor's new speed. My computer runs just fine like it is and am curious for all who know, if it will be just fine with the new processor? I keep thinking i need a more powerfull power supply, but I really dont want to spend an extra 40+ bucks for a 400+ watt power supply if i dont have to.. Thanks...
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You may be ok, depends on the quality of your PSU. But youre pushing the limits of your 300w. Id recommend a 400+ just so your psu has plenty of breathing room and is not being pushed to its limits.
The Athlon64 is a 64 bit proc but it runs 32 bit procs as well. It just already has the ability to run 64 bit OS and apps when they become available. In other words, you don't have to go out and buy and run a 64bit OS. You can run any 32bit OS or app, no problem.
Another thing, the difference in cache in the 2800+ vs the P4 2.4A does not make the Athlon64 proc suffer. The Athlon64 socket754, socket939 , socket940 procs are faster in games and some other apps due to there design and shorter pipelines than Intel's procs. Here is an older article, Dec of 03 that talks about the socket754 proc.
Where the Intel proc may be better is if you do any media or video encoding and/or decoding as well as multi-tasking, but in games and general apps the AMD proc blows it away.
Good luck in your decision, and hope you enjoy and have fun with whatever you choose.
No, it doesn't run any slower. It is just the difference of running a 32bit vs a 64bit app. The proc is designed to run 32bit programs if it doesn't detect a 64bit app. What this does mean is when you want to upgrade to a 64bit os you can without having to buy a whole new system. It also gives you the freedom to run both 32bit and 64bit apps.
I know my 64bit 3000+ will last me a year easy, and the 2800+ could last a year so the 3200+ won't be a problem. The socket754 procs are really good for their price when it comes to gaming and general pc performance, and in that, the socket939 is even that much better....just you pay a nice $$$$ for it.
Definitely no worries if you went with a 3200+, but you could save the $$$ and oc a 3000+ or 2800+ to the 2.2ghz of a 3200+ fairly easily.
maybe i'll get it in like a month or so..i'm hoping for prices to drop
and is it just me, or have pc cases lost their "zing"?
i can't find any good ones! they all look the same!
and thermaltake... THEY'RE UGLY!
oh yea..and is soltok a good mobo brand?
if not..how about msi?
because I was looking at this
MSI "K8T NEO2-FIR" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
Model#K8T NEO2-FIR
Item # N82E16813130463
Specifications: Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 64 FX Chipset: K8T800Pro+VT8237 RAM: 4x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2x PS/2,1x COM,1x LPT,8x USB2.0(Rear 4),1x IEEE1394,1x RJ45,1x S/PDIF out,1x IrDA, Audio Ports IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices, 1x ATA 133 up to 2 Devices by Promise 20579 with RAID 0/1/0+1 SATA: 2x SATA with RAID 0/1, 2x SATA by Promise 20579 with RAID 0/1/0+1 Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-CH Onboard LAN: Realtek 8110S Gbt LAN Onboard IEEE1394: VT6306 Form Factor: ATX
Soltech makes a very good socket754 mobo for the Athlon64 proc. The MSI socket939 board is probably one of the best for the socket939 Athlon64s right now, and the Asus socket939 boards are a close second. I'm very happy with my ASUS K8V socket754 board so just want to throw that one out there. Abit, Epox and Asrock also make good socket754 boards.
FYI, which you probably already know, if you buy the MSI "K8T NEO2-FIR" socket939 board, the cheapest proc for it is the Athlon64 3500+ which is running around $350+ and is hard to find in stock.
edit: On the cases. There are a ton of cases to choose from so just keep searching. I originally bought a Thermaltake VA3000 Dream Tower Black Tsunami at newegg
This is what is confusing Murt. Here is what you need to know. AMD makes 3 different socketed Athlon64 procs, the socket754, 939 and 940. A socket754 Athlon64 will not fit in a socket939 board because the interface is not compatible. Likewise a socket939 Athlon64 will not fit in a socket754 board and so on. The number of pins in a socket754 is 754 and the number of pins in a socket939 is 939 and so on. Yes, they are all Athlon64 procs, but there socket interface is the difference.
The first Athlon64s made by AMD were the socket754, and then they came out with socket940 for servers. The socket939 platform is AMDs newest Athlon64 platform and offers the newest Athlon64 and Athlon64 FX procs.
One other difference between socket754 and socket939 besides the interface and price, the socket939 supports dual channel memory using unregistered, non-ecc ram. The socket754 platform supports only single channel. AMD views socket754 as its entry to mid price 64bit platform while its socket939 is for mid to high price platforms. Socket940 is mainly used and marketed as a 64bit server platform. Interesting note, socket754 will eventually replace the socket A platform as well and will be the main home for AMDs new Sempron proc.
now i feel stupid, I know i'm supposed to match the socket number things, but I guess i took the easy way out..which was the wrong way too
and now to find a case, i have a mid tower..i think around 16 or 17 high..thing is, I don't know if the new motherboard with that cpu and the heatsink will fit
when I bought the coolermaster jet heatsink it didn't fit, because the raidmax cases are so squished together..the power supply had to be removed to put the heatsink in..and then you couldn't get the psu back in without breaking the heatsink off
lol
so err...do you think it'll fit? i have a raidmax scorpio 868 mid tower..
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dude i think this is going way over your head
ask people on the website, is this topic for my attention (wtf) or for helping people out with computer related things without making a thousand threads
obviously you're at the point of posing right now, where you feel you need to get the most posts, and are jealous of those who have more than you...
I DON'T CARE HOW MANY POSTS I HAVE
i asked a computer question, that is all, now get off my case
*EDIT
and yes, i "learned" what i was going to get
and I got it
but you can't stop there, UPGRADING IS MANDATORY!
and if you would have read my posts, the last thing i posted was for UPGRADING
*EDIT II
and now if someone can answer this specifically
here's the deal
i need a new CPU, as everyone knows..lol
BUT, i don't wanna spend more than 400 bucks
thing is..i need a new motherboard to, as my biostar m7ncd ultra only supports up to a 3000
so what i'm looking for
1. new cpu, good bang for the buck
2. new motherboard that can hold that cpu
3. heatsink that won't let that cpu burn
3. under 400 bucks
would appreciate it much, thanks
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well i guess i can cross from AMD to pentium if it saves me some cash
and if it works better
thanks bud..i await the information
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Crossing back to Pentium wont make you happy. The AMD 64 chip is by far the coolest running cpu on the market. You want a good combo below 400$ go with Master Shakes advice. You want an asus mobo try this combo. Even after shipping your cost will be @ 350$ usd.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-499&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-425&depa=1
You wont be dissapointed. We run both P4 and A64 chips at work and play. The A64 out performs the P4 in all catagories and run's at least 10c cooler.
thanks bonnie..but it only has 512k cache
i'm not saying that's a bad thing..just wondering
is there a BIG difference between the ones with 1mg cache and 512kcache?
if so..how much is the next cpu with 1mg?
lol thanks again
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I posted the wrong link for the cpu, you want this one(has fan)its about 10$ more
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-486&depa=1
I have a cpl with 1mb and several with 512. I see no difference in speed. They have pulled back from making them with 1mb as it does nothing for the average joe. With any luck some one with the tech knowledge can explain it for us. I asked at a recent meeting and it was explained why they did it but it all sounded like this to me. http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=retro.wmv
Any way if you still want the 1 mb cache there are 2 in your range.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-443&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-444&depa=1
Both will keep you just under 400$
BTW you can prolly find all this even cheaper on pricecheck or some of the other discount outlets, I just used NewEgg as i knew i could find quick links
LOL just realised the last 2 links where for dtr note books. I'll search out some in pricecheck and post em later.
Good luck!I dont start school till tommorow.I meet my teachers today
Thanks! Now to get busy on the other 5 hours of my homework!
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www.skyandbeyond.tk
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
"Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
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thanks a lot bonnieAWPS
you rock
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Ok guys here we go. This is just the Motherboard and CPU COMBO, but I already have everything else I need. Hows this for price....
PC CHIPS M916 Socket 478 DDR MB with Pentium4 3.0Ghz 800FSB CPU & Fan
Maximum: 2GB
Supports six USB 2.0 ports
Supports four 32-bits PCI slots of arbitration and decoding for all integrated functions and LPC bus.
Audio C-Media CMI9738 AC97 Codec(4 Channel)
8x AGP Support
LAN Realtek 10/100BaseT LAN onboard
Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
Support ACPI revision 1.0 specification
1 x AGP (8x)
1 x CNR
Four USB2.0 Ports and a LAN connector
One EPP/ECP mode parallel port
One 16550 high-speed serial I/O port
Audio ports (Mic, Audio-in, Audio-out)
One FDD connector supports 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 Mode FDDs or LS120
P4 ATX Power Supply Connector (4-Pin 12V power connector require)
USB Card Reader Connector (share one USB port from back panel)
IrDA header
Internal PC speaker header
CD ROM/DVD Audio Input header
2 Extra USB2.0 onboard header
HDD LED, Reset Switch, Suspend LED, Power Switch headers
CPU and System Fan headers
...................$223.86..................Your 2 cents?
"When i grow up, Im gonna be a Predator!"
"I fear no enemy! For the Khala is my strength! I fear not death. For our strength is eternal!" - Fenix
damn nice, except go with an amd 64, imo, i have a 2500 mobile, and it is alot better than the 2.8 ghz 800 fsb 1mb l2 cache p4 i had, so an amd 64 with blow that away, and prices are dropping everyday
Processor: AMD Athlon Xp 2500
Mobile "Barton"
Mobo: Abit NF-7
RAM:1 GB Corsair PC3200
Video: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb 256 bit
Hard Drive: 80 GB 7200 rpm Seagate "Barracuda"
CD/RW: Lite-On 48x read/48x write/24x rewrite/8x dvd read
Sound:7.1 Channel Sound Blaster (not audigy)
Processor HS and Fan: Thermaltake Volcano 12+
PSU: Antec 420 Watt
Case: Powmax Demon ATX Style
Question for some the individuals who know more about the power supply of a computer
Right now I have an AMD Athlon Xp 1800+ Processor while running 512 DDR Memory and running a Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB Video Card.. Curently its being powered by a nice 300 watt power supply.
My question is that in about 3 hours i will be purchasing new parts.. Actually just a PC CHIPS motherboard with a Pentium 4 3.0 GHZ processor 800FSB... This is really the only new thing that I'll be putting in the computer.. Just gonna strip off everything on my current board and put it on this new one. Im curious if the 300 watt Power Supply is OK for the Processor's new speed. My computer runs just fine like it is and am curious for all who know, if it will be just fine with the new processor? I keep thinking i need a more powerfull power supply, but I really dont want to spend an extra 40+ bucks for a 400+ watt power supply if i dont have to.. Thanks...
"When i grow up, Im gonna be a Predator!"
"I fear no enemy! For the Khala is my strength! I fear not death. For our strength is eternal!" - Fenix
You may be ok, depends on the quality of your PSU. But youre pushing the limits of your 300w. Id recommend a 400+ just so your psu has plenty of breathing room and is not being pushed to its limits.
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ok here's the deal, I found two about the same price
HOWEVER, this is the problem
one is pentium
thing is..the pentium has 1mb l2 cache, and the amd is a 64 bit with only 512k cache
Model#BX80546PE2400E
Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K, L2/1MB
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail (with Heatsink/Fan)
$124
Model#ADA2800BOX
Model: AMD Athlon 64 2800+
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 1.8GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail(Heatsink and Fan included)
$149
so which should I get, sacrifice an extra 512k cache for the 64 bit? or go just straight to the 1mb cache but not a 64 bit..and a pentium
i've always been an amd guy, and switching over would feel kinda weird
thing is..i want the best bang for my buck
so does the 64 bit processor out do the pentium's with 1mb l2 cache?
or does the extra cache on the pentium out do the 64 bit processor?
*OH AND ANOTHER THING
is it true I woudl have to get another OS to use the 64 bit processor?
*THESES
the pentium is faster in speed and has more cache
the amd has a 64 bit processor
does a 64 bit processor really make that much of a difference?
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Murt, I'm gonna help you out here.
If you are using your pc for gaming and general use, buy the AMD Athlon64 2800+.
The 2800+ blows the Intel P4 2.4A out of the water in gaming especially on newer games.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7
The Athlon64 is a 64 bit proc but it runs 32 bit procs as well. It just already has the ability to run 64 bit OS and apps when they become available. In other words, you don't have to go out and buy and run a 64bit OS. You can run any 32bit OS or app, no problem.
Another thing, the difference in cache in the 2800+ vs the P4 2.4A does not make the Athlon64 proc suffer. The Athlon64 socket754, socket939 , socket940 procs are faster in games and some other apps due to there design and shorter pipelines than Intel's procs. Here is an older article, Dec of 03 that talks about the socket754 proc.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=1937&p=1
Where the Intel proc may be better is if you do any media or video encoding and/or decoding as well as multi-tasking, but in games and general apps the AMD proc blows it away.
Good luck in your decision, and hope you enjoy and have fun with whatever you choose.
you rock..and one more thing
let's say i get the athlon 64, and the 32bit os which I have already...will it slow the speed compared to a 64 bit os?
Model#ADA3200AXBOX
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrated int chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
$218
thing is..it says The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor
are you SURE i can run my regular win xp with it and not slow the performance?
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so do you think this 64 bit 3200 will last me atleast a year?
and will it run high end games?
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I know my 64bit 3000+ will last me a year easy, and the 2800+ could last a year so the 3200+ won't be a problem. The socket754 procs are really good for their price when it comes to gaming and general pc performance, and in that, the socket939 is even that much better....just you pay a nice $$$$ for it.
Definitely no worries if you went with a 3200+, but you could save the $$$ and oc a 3000+ or 2800+ to the 2.2ghz of a 3200+ fairly easily.
hmm...
maybe i'll get it in like a month or so..i'm hoping for prices to drop
and is it just me, or have pc cases lost their "zing"?
i can't find any good ones! they all look the same!
and thermaltake...
THEY'RE UGLY!
oh yea..and is soltok a good mobo brand?
if not..how about msi?
because I was looking at this
Model#K8T NEO2-FIR
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 64 FX
Chipset: K8T800Pro+VT8237
RAM: 4x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2,1x COM,1x LPT,8x USB2.0(Rear 4),1x IEEE1394,1x RJ45,1x S/PDIF out,1x IrDA, Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices, 1x ATA 133 up to 2 Devices by Promise 20579 with RAID 0/1/0+1
SATA: 2x SATA with RAID 0/1, 2x SATA by Promise 20579 with RAID 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-CH
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8110S Gbt LAN
Onboard IEEE1394: VT6306
Form Factor: ATX
$123
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Soltech makes a very good socket754 mobo for the Athlon64 proc. The MSI socket939 board is probably one of the best for the socket939 Athlon64s right now, and the Asus socket939 boards are a close second. I'm very happy with my ASUS K8V socket754 board so just want to throw that one out there. Abit, Epox and Asrock also make good socket754 boards.
FYI, which you probably already know, if you buy the MSI "K8T NEO2-FIR" socket939 board, the cheapest proc for it is the Athlon64 3500+ which is running around $350+ and is hard to find in stock.
edit: On the cases. There are a ton of cases to choose from so just keep searching. I originally bought a Thermaltake VA3000 Dream Tower Black Tsunami at newegg
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-133-132-13.jpg/11-133-132-02.jpg/11-133-132-18.jpg/11-133-132-06.jpg/11-133-132-05.jpg/11-133-132-07.jpg/11-133-132-08.jpg/11-133-132-04.jpg/11-133-132-09.jpg
but couldn't get my Asus board to work in it because of a grounding issue so I went with a Lian-Li case instead
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-112-040-01.JPG/11-112-040-07.JPG/11-112-040-03.JPG/11-112-040-05.JPG/11-112-040-04.JPG/11-112-040-06.JPG/11-112-040-02.JPG/11-112-040-08.JPG
I am going to mod my case anyway, but it is hard to find a case. Good luck.
but it says Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 64 FX
so shouldn't it support all athlon 64's?
*i'm just asking..i'm not too sure
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This is what is confusing Murt. Here is what you need to know. AMD makes 3 different socketed Athlon64 procs, the socket754, 939 and 940. A socket754 Athlon64 will not fit in a socket939 board because the interface is not compatible. Likewise a socket939 Athlon64 will not fit in a socket754 board and so on. The number of pins in a socket754 is 754 and the number of pins in a socket939 is 939 and so on. Yes, they are all Athlon64 procs, but there socket interface is the difference.
The first Athlon64s made by AMD were the socket754, and then they came out with socket940 for servers. The socket939 platform is AMDs newest Athlon64 platform and offers the newest Athlon64 and Athlon64 FX procs.
One other difference between socket754 and socket939 besides the interface and price, the socket939 supports dual channel memory using unregistered, non-ecc ram. The socket754 platform supports only single channel. AMD views socket754 as its entry to mid price 64bit platform while its socket939 is for mid to high price platforms. Socket940 is mainly used and marketed as a 64bit server platform. Interesting note, socket754 will eventually replace the socket A platform as well and will be the main home for AMDs new Sempron proc.
Hope that helped and didn't confuse.
ah i see
now i feel stupid, I know i'm supposed to match the socket number things, but I guess i took the easy way out..which was the wrong way too
and now to find a case, i have a mid tower..i think around 16 or 17 high..thing is, I don't know if the new motherboard with that cpu and the heatsink will fit
when I bought the coolermaster jet heatsink it didn't fit, because the raidmax cases are so squished together..the power supply had to be removed to put the heatsink in..and then you couldn't get the psu back in without breaking the heatsink off
lol
so err...do you think it'll fit? i have a raidmax scorpio 868 mid tower..
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