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Censoring undone by Frogster
https://forum.tera-europe.com/showthread.php?t=66235
[Quote]Hello to all TERA fans out there,
Last weekend, there were many questions and discussions on all TERA-related boards regarding the recent changes to the game. We are now able to provide more details on these issues.
We want to let you know that we heard your message, loud and clear. We sincerely ask you to understand that we take all these issues very seriously.
As you have all noticed, the blood effect slider was removed from the OBT client. We want first of all to apologise to you for not communicating this change as it should have been. We understand the importance of being transparent with our community.
Developing and publishing a game requires the cooperation of many teams, so in order to give you comprehensive and accurate feedback, some issues need to be discussed and deliberated amongst our various departments. And this particular case underwent the same procedure which led to a response time longer than you had expected.
After intensive deliberation both internally and with our developer, we have decided that the gore slider will be back with the original three different graduations and blood will still be spread on the ground during combat. This change will take effect shortly after the release of the game, planned for the middle of May, through a patch. And just to be clear, the game-play experience will not be compromised and none of the TERA environments were or would have to be modified due to this change.
The European release version of the game will still have to be slightly different from the North American and Korean build: the only threat to our 12+ classification was the blood splattered on your screen when you are slaying certain monsters. This effect is slightly modified in the European version.
Another comment we read a lot this weekend was linked to some alleged modifications on some physical attributes and some armour pieces. We would like to give you some insight on those topics.
Elins were once more pointed at. Yes, the appearance of the Elins has been changed in both northern American and European version of the game. Not to comply with a demand from any official board, but because those characters in particular could have attracted to the game a population of unsavoury users, and it is part of our responsibility to protect our younger audiences from them. All partners involved in the project decided to ask Bluehole Studios for a solution, so they created new textures and designs for Elin wear. We are sure you all agree that this effort for child protection was the right thing to do. We all did, here, at Frogster.
Some of you also raised questions over reduction in the breast size of certain races, or some armour, which were not as suggestive as they used to be…, in the very first Korean TERA closed beta. We want to underline the fact that these changes are present in all versions of the game worldwide, including the original Korean version.
Many of you have a long history with MMO games, and we are sure you are familiar with updates and changes. Unfortunately, we might have to, at some point, postpone the release of certain features, because we feel like they need some more balancing or further testing. This is the case for the guild emblem feature. It has never been declared by any Frogster official that this feature was going to be removed permanently. It is only temporarily absent from the game, until a solution is found to allow a proper moderation of its use, so we can avoid you being exposed to potentially illegal or offensive content. We have a responsibility towards our audience we take very seriously.
Several possibilities are currently being considered, like a webpage added to the official website which would allow players to submit their emblem for the community managers’ approval before it is actually introduced into the game, or a community approval system asking a committee of players to make sure the submitted logos match the game rules. All the solutions we come up with would need an intervention of the developer at some point of the process. It might take some time, but we are already working on it.
Again, we apologise for not informing you in advance on this one, and we will do our best to keep you in the loop on further developments. We really hope that we have addressed the concerns you have about TERA.
Wishing you a very pleasant last day on the open beta,
Your Frogster Team[/Quote]
Enjoy.
Comments
Well glad they going back on the right track. I still think all of EU should just play on NA server =X
Great post!
This is a PERFECT example of some nit picking BS.
Folks really go out of there way to cry about the stupidest things!
With or without blood this never effected my gameplay.
Neat.
Now remove the 12 year old girl race! lol.
Nah, but seriously, that race is seriously stupid.
I'm absolutely fuming right now. They didn't touch on what this was ultimately about: THE PEGI 12 RATING IS WRONG FOR TERA.
Vague wordings all around, bravo. That's why it took them 2 days to respond.
Yes, the splatter won't come back. It's that thing that splashes on your screen. Personally, I didn't like it anyway. I hated it in Age of Conan and I won't need it in Tera. It takes me out of the game, it's just so OOC - or OOG to be more precise.
I don't give a guano about the splatter either. What scared me is: they stealth watered down something to shoehorn it into the PEGI 12 rating.
"The European release version of the game will still have to be slightly different from the North American and Korean build"
The Korean version is getting more gruesome, more graphic and what will happen to the content then when it gets to European shores?
Just how is the rating wrong? Tera's world, story, quests and graphics are mostly PEGI 12. If Frogster needs to censor only some blood splatters on-screen and player made guild emblems to keep PEGI 12, then it's a PEGI 12 game and Frogster would have been stupid to go over that rating for just guild emblems and a single graphical effect.
Frogster totally messed up how they did the censoring, I'm not arguing that, but I think their decision to release Tera as PEGI 12 was a good one.
How far in did you get?
PEGI responded to the hundreds of complaints they received from us by saying what they were shown may have been limited as well so a re-rating might be in order.
The post and any other post relating to this has been removed from the forums.
"Elins were once more pointed at. Yes, the appearance of the Elins has been changed in both northern American and European version of the game. Not to comply with a demand from any official board, but because those characters in particular could have attracted to the game a population of unsavoury users, and it is part of our responsibility to protect our younger audiences from them. All partners involved in the project decided to ask Bluehole Studios for a solution, so they created new textures and designs for Elin wear. We are sure you all agree that this effort for child protection was the right thing to do. We all did, here, at Frogster."
I guess that settles it. If you played an Elin female before, you will have to get your pedophile jollies elsewhere
Censorship is wrong. If you aren't adult enough to experience something, don't purchase it. People under 18 should have what's called parenting to guide the young people with what may or may not be appropriate to their specific upbringing. Parents abdicating the parenting responsibilities is another subject.
Sounds like Tera is cowardly. I'd be curious to see screenshots of the ingame changes. One of the things I loved about the game was how it looked. If they are altering the appearance of the game's textures and models then my interest has gone down several notches unless the new changes are as aesthetically pleasing.
the thing i find funny is how they claim the changes to elin armor and etc wasn't because of some official board, but because they didnt want to attract pedo's....which begs to question how did they not think of that when they first designed the race/armor.
seriously, they say they understand the need for transparency yet lie right to our faces. not that it really matters. but i just find it funny. cause either they're lying, or the people in charge are to dumb to think ahead, which is pretty bad either way.
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LOL Thats the reason i dont play KOR game they never shine in NA and alwais they change the game as theyr desire,same reason why Aion die and same reason all KOR game in NA never going to be a success.
BTW Tera is not cowardly honey ,when a KOR game comes to NA they dont have anithing to do whit it NA server have the right to change lightly the game on drop rate ,skin,gender,skills.
they control the game in diferent ways if you play Aion you know what im talking about kor game still uncensored but NA or EU its another thing other nation they have the control in wtv they wanna do whit the product and theyr servers.
yes it is cowardly. And I'd appreciate it if you don't call me honey unless you are agreeing with me.
Here some example of what changed for the elin (on the left the original on the right the modified version):
Castanic:
The bloos is just the effect of blood on the borders of the screen.
If you ask me nothing we can't live without.
I was just preoccupied for the istances, they said the istances will be exactly the same as in NA, I'm happy.
Simple, this game was release an year ago in Korea and there the Elin are not modified. They changed them for the western market.
That Castanic boob/nipple thing again...when do people actually realize that it was a HACK and has NEVER been official work.
Some nerd was working on a nude patch, nobody in Korea ever saw nipples or even parts of nipples on any armor ingame.
All that has changed is Elin clothing. Nothing else.
When do people will learn to read...
Some of you also raised questions over reduction in the breast size of certain races, or some armour, which were not as suggestive as they used to be…, in the very first Korean TERA closed beta. We want to underline the fact that these changes are present in all versions of the game worldwide, including the original Korean version.
http://community.tera-europe.com/home/news/article/tera-letter-to-the-community.html
Censorship zzz, next we'll have women needed to cover up their whole body like in the middle east.....get a life
Did you even get to the second dungeon? one of the room in the second dungeon where the second boss is have a freaken blood fountain in the middle with the entire floor covered in blood.... If blood splatter going to stop it form been Pegi 12 than well that room itself already killed any chance of Pegi 12.
Because they didn't designed it DUH! BHS the development company that made the game design it. They have no issue with this in Korea, is Korea full of pedos? no but i seem US here in the west have some insecurities about it and though have to censor it.
I'm more than happy about this, it's much appreciated.
so we can avoid you being exposed to potentially illegal or offensive content. We have a responsibility towards our audience we take very seriously.
Oh God, can you give me a clean nappy as well?
WOW,eq2,Vanguard,WAR,LOTRO,AOC,Rift Aion, SWTOR, TERA.
Currently playing GW2.
okay fine, they didn't design it, but guess what, they knew they were releasing it in NA, and they are changing it now, so my original point doesn't change, why didn't they change the races and etc BEFORE the game went open beta
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Wait what? Ok first one all on the Elin issue it was change before CLOSE BETA.
Second, it wasn't really their fault, the game was oringally intended to be rated M 17+ like it is in the US. However frogest try to shoot for 16+ (because it seem US and EU have differen't rating) but some one got a 12+, than they saw the blood was like o that can't be 12+. So it was either wait for a long time for a new rating or remove the blood. Oviousl the latter was a simpler solution than waiting for the entire game to be re-reviewed for a new rating.
Before the beta ended on the NA servers I ran the 2nd dungeon of the game. It had rooms with vampires and massive blood puddles on the floor and clear blood stains on the wall.
The EU version will be an extremely dumbed down version compared to KR/JP/NA and it will be getting censored more and more. The whole "will be added after launch" is complete bullshit to try to direct people into buying the EU version instead of the NA version.
Word of warning, AVOID EU VERSION AND FROGSTER AT ALL COSTS.
(Proud owner of NA collector's edition and playing without any issues from EU.)
And here I was thinking that Europe was far more socially progressive than the United States. This is an amusing development.