Its easy why Tera is bad, other than the combat which its newness wears off fast, the game honestly offers nothing else that you can't find in other far better mmo's, its bascally just another themepark wow clone once the combat gets old. I had high hopes for Tera till I actually got into the beta and played it, same for diablo 3, neither of these games are worth my money, I can get Torchlight 2 for 20 US, that also comes with a free copy of Torchlight which sells by itself for 15 US on steam. Both games are far better than diablo 3 in many ways other than maybe graphics. Then there is path fo exile a soon to be f2p diablo 2 like game, that has gotten really good reviews from players, its bascally what diablo 3 should have been if blizzard didn't fail so effing hard.
Who is talking about D3? A political system isn't currently in any other mmo so what are you talking about? You just spewed out some vague none sense comparing the game to another because wow is probably the only mmo you've ever played. Please explain to me why this is a "wow clone". Is it because it's an mmo? Because that's probably the only thing the 2 game got in common.
While I understand having multi-starting zones makes playing alts somewhat refreshing, But I am wondering how you would implement multable starting zones in a non-faction game and why would you want to ?
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
It's jaw dropping hilarious to see comments that go way beyond the realm of opinion about TERA. I mean I actually chuckle. I'm not going to name names, they know who they are, because I just don't see the point. Anyone can type what they want in this box.
To those reading at home that have not played TERA: Watch some videos, study how you have to move in combat, search words "Tera bam" and "Tera argon" along with specific class videos. Do not listen here, see it for yourself.
It's jaw dropping hilarious to see comments that go way beyond the realm of opinion about TERA. I mean I actually chuckle. I'm not going to name names, they know who they are, because I just don't see the point. Anyone can type what they want in this box.
To those reading at home that have not played TERA: Watch some videos, study how you have to move in combat, search words "Tera bam" and "Tera argon" along with specific class videos. Do not listen here, see it for yourself.
While I understand having multi-starting zones makes playing alts somewhat refreshing, But I am wondering how you would implement multable starting zones in a non-faction game and why would you want to ?
Originally posted by Kuppa Originally posted by stayontarget While I understand having multi-starting zones makes playing alts somewhat refreshing, But I am wondering how you would implement multable starting zones in a non-faction game and why would you want to ?
It could be per race.
Back on topic I suppose, the only thing per race I might be able to see would be a flashback to say how each race became part of the Federation. I think that would be really awesome because of how rich the back story is to each race. Aman freedom from the giants, humans wondering aimlessly before their goddess saved them ect. super cool story.
It's jaw dropping hilarious to see comments that go way beyond the realm of opinion about TERA. I mean I actually chuckle. I'm not going to name names, they know who they are, because I just don't see the point. Anyone can type what they want in this box.
To those reading at home that have not played TERA: Watch some videos, study how you have to move in combat, search words "Tera bam" and "Tera argon" along with specific class videos. Do not listen here, see it for yourself.
They know who they are cause they are always the same names popping up in every Tera post to bash it a bit, just in case.
And you are quite right, it's hilarious how in every post they attack a different side of Tera on the line of "well the is decent, but the X feature is really terrible. It totally ruins it." to sound objective, while if you read every post from them there is not a single thing in Tera they like.
Same starting zone for everyone. When are they going to learn this is the worst design mistake. Here's the deal I received a nice $50 visa gift card figured why not give this a shot (not like its any money out of my pocket anyway). So I then purchased Tera and all I have to say is why? Rift had the same issues same starting zone for each side l. Now I am not the biggest fan of anime artstyle but this game does look nice with the UT3 engine. Unfortunately things went downhill because all the classes are absolutely boring, engine is okay though its not the greatest. Nice artwork but same starter zone for everyone is a huge mistake. Combat is okay though and a nice change I will give them that.
I use to enjoy Wow when it came out, I played it alot from 2004 til 2006. The reason why Blizz still has 10 million people playing WOW is because there's different starting areas for everyone. I am not a big fan of WOW's gameplay anymore though. GW2 has this as well, different starting zones for all races (and I played beta and it destroys this game big time, they have to do some more work on the engine and other things but its so vast it's incredible). Sorry but idiotic companies that want to compete and then they create a game where there's literally one starting area Warhammer did this , Aion l, Star Wars TOR because of this. When are they going to learn to create different starting areas from 1 - 20 for each race = win.
BTW = uninstalled Tera for good and awaiting Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 = pretty much my whole summer and winter lol.
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Great choice my man. I feel bad you had to waste that money though. You could of done so much more things, open up so many opportunities for other things in your life.
And your wrong about combat. Tera did a terriable job at their misleading advertising about how Tera is the "FIRST TRUE ACTION MMO". Too bad it's it's not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Why would their company lie? It obviously mean they have no hope of their game ever succeeding in NA or EU.
True story bro. *Look Tera Korea - ghost town
*Look at Tera Japan - ghost town, and they fing love anime and loli
Well, Darkfall is probably the first true action mmorpg (well, or DDO if we ignore the presence of tab targetting), followed by other UO derivatives. Still, I think Tera is the first that has some actual class balance, a really good game engine and decent developers to back the game up.
As for its market share in the East, you have to keep in mind that:
It's a lot more competitive market than the west
Aion is godly there, while not so much in he west. So doing good (or bad) in the Asian market is no indication of success or failure in the western market.
Well, Darkfall is probably the first true action mmorpg (well, or DDO if we ignore the presence of tab targetting), followed by other UO derivatives. Still, I think Tera is the first that has some actual class balance, a really good game engine and decent developers to back the game up.
As for its market share in the East, you have to keep in mind that:
It's a lot more competitive market than the west
Aion is godly there, while not so much in he west. So doing good (or bad) in the Asian market is no indication of success or failure in the western market.
^^ What he said.I am not a fan of asian mmo in general so when I hear it is not doing well in the east I actually take more notice of it.I bought Aion on release date couldn't manage to stay interested in it for a week .Jury is still out on Tera for me but I will say it has already entertained me more than Aion,Lineage2,.and pretty much every other asian mmo I have tried or played.
Great choice my man. I feel bad you had to waste that money though. You could of done so much more things, open up so many opportunities for other things in your life.
And your wrong about combat. Tera did a terriable job at their misleading advertising about how Tera is the "FIRST TRUE ACTION MMO". Too bad it's it's not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Why would their company lie? It obviously mean they have no hope of their game ever succeeding in NA or EU.
True story bro. *Look Tera Korea - ghost town
*Look at Tera Japan - ghost town, and they fing love anime and loli
you know at least try to make some sense..... first of all thats 1 phrase, since when you identify by each indivual word idk. but not a mmo? i can't believe you had the nerve to even type that.
Second any game would be a ghost town if your chaged 35 dollar a month for it, thats the only reason why Tera in Japan is failing. And why don't you metion the fact that Tera in Korea is ranked 5th most played mmorpg? and 9th most play mmo? Seriously can't people come up with some troll that at least make sense any more?
It's jaw dropping hilarious to see comments that go way beyond the realm of opinion about TERA. I mean I actually chuckle. I'm not going to name names, they know who they are, because I just don't see the point. Anyone can type what they want in this box.
To those reading at home that have not played TERA: Watch some videos, study how you have to move in combat, search words "Tera bam" and "Tera argon" along with specific class videos. Do not listen here, see it for yourself.
They know who they are cause they are always the same names popping up in every Tera post to bash it a bit, just in case.
And you are quite right, it's hilarious how in every post they attack a different side of Tera on the line of "well the is decent, but the X feature is really terrible. It totally ruins it." to sound objective, while if you read every post from them there is not a single thing in Tera they like.
I just block them instead of wasting any more energy on people like them.
While I understand having multi-starting zones makes playing alts somewhat refreshing, But I am wondering how you would implement multable starting zones in a non-faction game and why would you want to ?
You make multiple starting zones per race. You know... variety and freedom for the player. Some games managed to do it Tera didn't and having a single starting zone is a big "meh". Kills the fun in making alts.
I guess that's one of the reasons they made a prologue. To let you try a class before starting the level grind. This way you won't reach level 20-30 until to realize it wasn't the class meant for you and go "OMG please no. I don't want to grind the early levels again".
Smart move by Enmasse trying to solve a big mistake on Bluehole's part.
Originally posted by teakbois
They are in exactly the same ballpark development money wise.
This make sense considering how Tera had a bad first year financial-wise. Too big expectations and too big investments that didn't pay off. Something like swtor.
But game developers don't seem to learn that it's not like more money = more profit. You can be a niche little game and still make money even without milion players. Rift managed to do that
First off, the starting area takes about an hour to get out of so why does it even matter if everyone starts there? It would be a waste of resources to create induvidual content for each race when a player spends such a small fraction of their time there. Judging from most of the comments about the combat being the only big feature in the game haven't researched anything about what end game is like or particiapted in GvG. I was honestly on the fence with this game until the GvG started taking place during the open betas. If you love pvp this game is really for you. The combat and play style of all the classes is not even the same at higher levels, and with end game gear you can speed up the ability animations. No one even playing the game has experienced the political system in all its glory.
tl;dr say what you want about it but until you get past level 20 or actually play the game (which i can tell some of the negative commmentors haven't) you won't really see how awesome this game is.
The starting area is where most people decide to keep playing the game. Even if the starting area only takes an hour, if it is dull enough (which it is), most people will quit before even getting out of it. I know they are not doing themselves justice or what-have-you, but it does not change the fact that a starting area is one of the key elements of the game. It is not just that there is only one starting area, its that the only starting area offered is terrible.
You can't tell anyone that if they don't get past level 20 they can't judge the game, because they can judge it whenever they want. Most people will judge the game well before that, and you have to get over it. You should know how "awesome the game is" 10 minutes after playing it.
Same starting zone for everyone. When are they going to learn this is the worst design mistake. Here's the deal I received a nice $50 visa gift card figured why not give this a shot (not like its any money out of my pocket anyway). So I then purchased Tera and all I have to say is why? Rift had the same issues same starting zone for each side l. Now I am not the biggest fan of anime artstyle but this game does look nice with the UT3 engine. Unfortunately things went downhill because all the classes are absolutely boring, engine is okay though its not the greatest. Nice artwork but same starter zone for everyone is a huge mistake. Combat is okay though and a nice change I will give them that.
I use to enjoy Wow when it came out, I played it alot from 2004 til 2006. The reason why Blizz still has 10 million people playing WOW is because there's different starting areas for everyone. I am not a big fan of WOW's gameplay anymore though. GW2 has this as well, different starting zones for all races (and I played beta and it destroys this game big time, they have to do some more work on the engine and other things but its so vast it's incredible). Sorry but idiotic companies that want to compete and then they create a game where there's literally one starting area Warhammer did this , Aion l, Star Wars TOR because of this. When are they going to learn to create different starting areas from 1 - 20 for each race = win.
BTW = uninstalled Tera for good and awaiting Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 = pretty much my whole summer and winter lol.
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Although I do enjoy Tera I will say that the same starting zone is a killer for not only alts but for casual players who alt. The very good PvP may bring up popularity but the lack of starting zones will hurt. Look at AOC and the excellent Tortage, even with that great starting area people could not put themselves through the same starting zone again and again. I dont think Tear will die but it will be a game with limited population and a niche game
First off, the starting area takes about an hour to get out of so why does it even matter if everyone starts there? It would be a waste of resources to create induvidual content for each race when a player spends such a small fraction of their time there. Judging from most of the comments about the combat being the only big feature in the game haven't researched anything about what end game is like or particiapted in GvG. I was honestly on the fence with this game until the GvG started taking place during the open betas. If you love pvp this game is really for you. The combat and play style of all the classes is not even the same at higher levels, and with end game gear you can speed up the ability animations. No one even playing the game has experienced the political system in all its glory.
tl;dr say what you want about it but until you get past level 20 or actually play the game (which i can tell some of the negative commmentors haven't) you won't really see how awesome this game is.
my metabolism is not on hyper drive so it takes me about 2 hours or so to leave the starter Island, but why should you have to get past lvl 20 to get to the "good" stuff? That being said I have experienced GvG and it is alot of fun, the polititical system has not really started yet so cant comment on that. One of WOW's brilliiant achievements was building seperate worlds for its characters and tht is one of the major reasons why there are 10 million players-it increases alt viability-. Tera is a fun game but it will not be an alt game and that will hurt population wise, it will be a niche game. Look at AOC and the brilliant Tortage, even with that great starting area they could not convince people to play alts in the same starting zone.
The good news is their developers seem open to listining to customers and that will help with world building
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Who is talking about D3? A political system isn't currently in any other mmo so what are you talking about? You just spewed out some vague none sense comparing the game to another because wow is probably the only mmo you've ever played. Please explain to me why this is a "wow clone". Is it because it's an mmo? Because that's probably the only thing the 2 game got in common.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
To those reading at home that have not played TERA: Watch some videos, study how you have to move in combat, search words "Tera bam" and "Tera argon" along with specific class videos. Do not listen here, see it for yourself.
Just not worth my time anymore.
This
It could be per race.
Back on topic I suppose, the only thing per race I might be able to see would be a flashback to say how each race became part of the Federation. I think that would be really awesome because of how rich the back story is to each race. Aman freedom from the giants, humans wondering aimlessly before their goddess saved them ect. super cool story.
They know who they are cause they are always the same names popping up in every Tera post to bash it a bit, just in case.
And you are quite right, it's hilarious how in every post they attack a different side of Tera on the line of "well the is decent, but the X feature is really terrible. It totally ruins it." to sound objective, while if you read every post from them there is not a single thing in Tera they like.
Great choice my man. I feel bad you had to waste that money though. You could of done so much more things, open up so many opportunities for other things in your life.
And your wrong about combat. Tera did a terriable job at their misleading advertising about how Tera is the "FIRST TRUE ACTION MMO". Too bad it's it's not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Why would their company lie? It obviously mean they have no hope of their game ever succeeding in NA or EU.
True story bro. *Look Tera Korea - ghost town
*Look at Tera Japan - ghost town, and they fing love anime and loli
Well, Darkfall is probably the first true action mmorpg (well, or DDO if we ignore the presence of tab targetting), followed by other UO derivatives. Still, I think Tera is the first that has some actual class balance, a really good game engine and decent developers to back the game up.
As for its market share in the East, you have to keep in mind that:
It's a lot more competitive market than the west
Aion is godly there, while not so much in he west. So doing good (or bad) in the Asian market is no indication of success or failure in the western market.
^^ What he said.I am not a fan of asian mmo in general so when I hear it is not doing well in the east I actually take more notice of it.I bought Aion on release date couldn't manage to stay interested in it for a week .Jury is still out on Tera for me but I will say it has already entertained me more than Aion,Lineage2,.and pretty much every other asian mmo I have tried or played.
you know at least try to make some sense..... first of all thats 1 phrase, since when you identify by each indivual word idk. but not a mmo? i can't believe you had the nerve to even type that.
Second any game would be a ghost town if your chaged 35 dollar a month for it, thats the only reason why Tera in Japan is failing. And why don't you metion the fact that Tera in Korea is ranked 5th most played mmorpg? and 9th most play mmo? Seriously can't people come up with some troll that at least make sense any more?
I just block them instead of wasting any more energy on people like them.
You make multiple starting zones per race. You know... variety and freedom for the player. Some games managed to do it Tera didn't and having a single starting zone is a big "meh". Kills the fun in making alts.
I guess that's one of the reasons they made a prologue. To let you try a class before starting the level grind. This way you won't reach level 20-30 until to realize it wasn't the class meant for you and go "OMG please no. I don't want to grind the early levels again".
Smart move by Enmasse trying to solve a big mistake on Bluehole's part.
This make sense considering how Tera had a bad first year financial-wise. Too big expectations and too big investments that didn't pay off. Something like swtor.But game developers don't seem to learn that it's not like more money = more profit. You can be a niche little game and still make money even without milion players. Rift managed to do that
The starting area is where most people decide to keep playing the game. Even if the starting area only takes an hour, if it is dull enough (which it is), most people will quit before even getting out of it. I know they are not doing themselves justice or what-have-you, but it does not change the fact that a starting area is one of the key elements of the game. It is not just that there is only one starting area, its that the only starting area offered is terrible.
You can't tell anyone that if they don't get past level 20 they can't judge the game, because they can judge it whenever they want. Most people will judge the game well before that, and you have to get over it. You should know how "awesome the game is" 10 minutes after playing it.
Although I do enjoy Tera I will say that the same starting zone is a killer for not only alts but for casual players who alt. The very good PvP may bring up popularity but the lack of starting zones will hurt. Look at AOC and the excellent Tortage, even with that great starting area people could not put themselves through the same starting zone again and again. I dont think Tear will die but it will be a game with limited population and a niche game
my metabolism is not on hyper drive so it takes me about 2 hours or so to leave the starter Island, but why should you have to get past lvl 20 to get to the "good" stuff? That being said I have experienced GvG and it is alot of fun, the polititical system has not really started yet so cant comment on that. One of WOW's brilliiant achievements was building seperate worlds for its characters and tht is one of the major reasons why there are 10 million players-it increases alt viability-. Tera is a fun game but it will not be an alt game and that will hurt population wise, it will be a niche game. Look at AOC and the brilliant Tortage, even with that great starting area they could not convince people to play alts in the same starting zone.
The good news is their developers seem open to listining to customers and that will help with world building