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Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

$60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

 

So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

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  • DarkDemon69DarkDemon69 Member Posts: 154

    NO. /how ever many chars

  • ariestearieste Member UncommonPosts: 3,309

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

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  • HeavyTrafficHeavyTraffic Member Posts: 54

    Completely agree.  Gone are the days I buy one of these new MMORPGs thinking I'm going to play them for more than a month.  I determine if the box price will give me value for one month and then make my purchasing decision.

     

    I am currently playing Tera for one month.  I'll certainly get my money's worth and then probably play The Secret World for a month and decide between the two.

    The price for this game is standard for games on the PC.  I'm curious why the OP thought this game would be any different from any other PC game unless it's just a troll and I just fed it.

     

     

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643

    The game is cheaper than any other MMO to come out in the last five years that was made by a major studio.

    F2P launch titles are almost exclusively indie titles and offer little to no support.  People accept that because they're free and indie.

    Funcom's past reputation isn't a factor on a quality of a game now.  It can be a wait and see factor for you, but doesn't require them to drop their price to 25 bucks.

    A lot of their game is about discovery.  There's a good chance that if a player sees everything now, they  won't buy the game anyways.  Having more access to it isn't going to change their mind on that front.  On top of that every investigative mission will be up on a wiki before the game even launches.

    Bottom line:  Some people (in general - not directed at you) want everything for nothing.  If companies don't give them that, then they're being greedy for wanting to...*gasp*  make a profit.

    And AFAIK there's only one game releasing a buy the box and play model.  If there's other AAA MMOs doing the same thing, please let me know.  I'd be interested in checking them out.

    Oddly, I agree with you about TSW following GW2 lead about Buy and Play with cash shop.  I just don't agree with your reasons behind it.

     

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643

    Originally posted by arieste

     
    So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent dea

    It's actually 50 bucks :)

  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    I also find it to expensive for me. It plays to much like a SPRPG for me and I won't pay a sub for a SPRPG anytime soon.

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  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    Originally posted by arieste

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

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  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by arieste


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

    I think what he meant was it will take you longer to complete Kingsmouth than it does to finish a ME game, and in that he is correct as a play throught of ME titles takes me around 30 hours roughly

  • zevni78zevni78 Member UncommonPosts: 1,146

    I think it should be sub as I think the game needs the steady funds to improve, and I want to see all the future content fully realized. The box price is the problem for me, as buying it right now would mean not enough cash for rent. I guess Kingsmouth will have to survive without me. If every zone is as full of great content as that town, then I will have to buy it somehow, I just hope it wasnt this game's Tortage.

  • FangrimFangrim Member UncommonPosts: 616

    Why are there so many people that are happy to buy every MMO thats released just to play it for a month?I want a game I can play for years.I know its not likely but I'm not giving up hope just yet.....


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  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    Originally posted by jdnewell

    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by arieste


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

    I think what he meant was it will take you longer to complete Kingsmouth than it does to finish a ME game, and in that he is correct as a play throught of ME titles takes me around 30 hours roughly

    Was I playing a different Kingsmouth or something? Cause I played around 10-12 hours(very slowly mind you) and I am pretty close to leaving Kingsmouth......

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,963

    how about people not buying every game that comes out just becasue it comes out?

    Because essentially what this whole f2p thing seems to be is "I want to play for free and not pay anything. Let others carry the financial burden. Make it so!

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  • Ambros123Ambros123 Member Posts: 877

    P2P MMOs should not even charge a retail price instead just only charge just for the subscription as they will more than get their monies worth out of the consumers.  But hey... when pigs fly right? 

    GW2 has made me stop investing into P2P games.  It's not because I'm a cheapskate but more of I'm tired of gambling $60-$90 on a "promising game" when in short it failed drastically to my expectations.  I'm hopeing the Neverwinter to be a raging success not because I love D&D but more of to show companies that a B2P/F2P is a very profitable model if not more so than a P2P model in it;s current form.  But in the West people buy up P2P MMOs like a child gobbles down the free sampler desert section in a grocery store.

  • HeavyTrafficHeavyTraffic Member Posts: 54

    Originally posted by Fangrim

    Why are there so many people that are happy to buy every MMO thats released just to play it for a month?I want a game I can play for years.I know its not likely but I'm not giving up hope just yet.....

    If you are replying to me, you completely misunderstood my post.  I'm saying my BUYING decision is based on whether I get my money's worth in a month.

     

    That does not in any way conflict with my desire to find a game I can play for years.  Until I can forsee the future I'm thinking this is the most rational way to make purchases.  I actually thought SWTOR might have legs (silly me), but I'm not upset about the purchase because I got my one month fix for the game.

     

    I'm sure we'd all like to have a crystal ball to tell us which game is going to be a massive hit so we could just buy that one, but crystal balls are not real, unfortunately, so I'm stuck buying games on my criteria of being a value for a month.

     

     

     

     

     

  • HeavyTrafficHeavyTraffic Member Posts: 54

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by jdnewell


    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by arieste


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

    I think what he meant was it will take you longer to complete Kingsmouth than it does to finish a ME game, and in that he is correct as a play throught of ME titles takes me around 30 hours roughly

    Was I playing a different Kingsmouth or something? Cause I played around 10-12 hours(very slowly mind you) and I am pretty close to leaving Kingsmouth......



    No you're not.  Half the quests in Kingsmouth were locked for the first Beta.

     

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by jdnewell


    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by arieste


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

    I think what he meant was it will take you longer to complete Kingsmouth than it does to finish a ME game, and in that he is correct as a play throught of ME titles takes me around 30 hours roughly

    Was I playing a different Kingsmouth or something? Cause I played around 10-12 hours(very slowly mind you) and I am pretty close to leaving Kingsmouth......

    not a chance, half the zone isnt even unlocked

     

  • DarkDemon69DarkDemon69 Member Posts: 154

    How about we dont drop the price so we dont have a venomous community like all f2p games?

  • LagozLagoz Member Posts: 92

    50€ (headstart+1st month included) is a lot more content you get for buying ME3.

    If you still want to experience more content you can pay 14€~~ per month.

    I don't find that expensive if you take account that ME3 runs out of content in 2 weeks if you play it slowly.

    TSW is worth the box price even if you played it as a SRPG just like SWTOR. If you tend to illegally dowload games from the interwebs then these games are rather expensive. But in comparison it's not a bad price for the amount of content you get.

    Funcom won't make the game cheaper until or if it goes F2P. But if the price is too much for you to handle then wait with fingers crossed :j

  • Dahkot72Dahkot72 Member Posts: 261

    The odd aspect of the time/$$$ is when you throw in single player games the cost is the same or worse even if you only play said mmorpg for a month , as you are gonig to get that free month initially so no sub fee and just box cost.

    I'd have to say that $$/time wise , the original EQ likely was my biggest bang for the buck , as 14.99 month got me many , many hour of playtime I enjoyed.

    Sadly , past few years have made me just accept that the days of one mmorpg for years is likely over. Still hoping something might come along like that one day though.

  • DarkDemon69DarkDemon69 Member Posts: 154

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by jdnewell

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by arieste

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    MAybe its just me, but with that many AAA+ games available for free (tough a subscription is advisable)  and other upcomming games free of subscription with only the price of the box to play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    $60 boxprice and $15 monthly costs, just seems to much for this game to me. Yes, the game would be worth devoting time too, and discovering the lands, but in these times of economical trouble the price might just be to high to pull people away from cheaper alternatives.

     

    So they should either lower the boxprice with atleast 50% or remove the subscription requirement.   The game currently just doesn't have the quallity to convince me to buy it at that price. Espescially comming from funcom, only showing us small part of the game with tortage still fresh in my memmory.

    Well that's you.

     

    To me, Kingsmouth area alone has more content than an average Mass Effect game.  So $60 to play for a month and experience all the areas is an excellent deal.  And if i either get through it all or stop liking it after that time, I simply won't pay the monthly sub.  Good deal either way.

    Kingsmouth area more content than an entire Mass Effect game?????? Did I miss something here.....image

    I think what he meant was it will take you longer to complete Kingsmouth than it does to finish a ME game, and in that he is correct as a play throught of ME titles takes me around 30 hours roughly

    Was I playing a different Kingsmouth or something? Cause I played around 10-12 hours(very slowly mind you) and I am pretty close to leaving Kingsmouth......

    Impossible, took me 2 days straight in cb to finish Kingsmouth, had put in at least 30 hours over the weekend to do it. If you did all that you are missing tonnes.

  • NethriilNethriil Member Posts: 178
    Whats is 50 dollars. My Xbox games cost me 100 dollars each here in scandinavia. A beer out costs 10 dollars :( tsw + beers at Home = priceless :))))
  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    Leaving aside the shortcomings I believe the game has (and I have decided against playing at launch) who says that a monthly sub fee must be $15/EU14/BPS10 automatically?

    I think this game (and some of the others released these last few years) would be better offering a sub fee closer to $10. It would probably reduce the comparisons to other games charging $15/mo and make the pricepoint a positive instead of a negative.

    Sub fees (in the original UO/EQ/SWG period) were set at $15/mo because bandwith and server maint fees and infrastructure costs were much, much higher back then. A couple devs have stated in various articles that those costs are about 10% now of what they were back then, and yet, the sub fee is the same.

     

    I just don't understand it: if companies are willing to and can afford to put games out F2P and eat all the overhead for 80-90% of the average F2P MMO playerbase that pays nothing, why the resistence to lower a sub fee from $15/mo?

     

    I think a lower sub fee instead of all this F2P/cash shop nonsense could work for many games...

  • DarkDemon69DarkDemon69 Member Posts: 154

    Originally posted by Burntvet

    Leaving aside the shortcomings I believe the game has (and I have decided against playing at launch) who says that a monthly sub fee must be $15/EU14/BPS10 automatically?

    I think this game (and some of the others released these last few years) would be better offering a sub fee closer to $10. It would probably reduce the comparisons to other games charging $15/mo and make the pricepoint a positive instead of a negative.

    Sub fees (in the original UO/EQ/SWG period) were set at $15/mo because bandwith and server maint fees and infrastructure costs were much, much higher back then. A couple devs have stated in various articles that those costs are about 10% now of what they were back then, and yet, the sub fee is the same.

     

    I just don't understand it: if companies are willing to and can afford to put games out F2P and eat all the overhead for 80-90% of the average F2P MMO playerbase that pays nothing, why the resistence to lower a sub fee from $15/mo?

     

    I think a lower sub fee instead of all this F2P/cash shop nonsense could work for many games...

    If you cant afford 15 dollars dont be playing video games.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    Originally posted by DarkDemon69

    Originally posted by Burntvet

    Leaving aside the shortcomings I believe the game has (and I have decided against playing at launch) who says that a monthly sub fee must be $15/EU14/BPS10 automatically?

    I think this game (and some of the others released these last few years) would be better offering a sub fee closer to $10. It would probably reduce the comparisons to other games charging $15/mo and make the pricepoint a positive instead of a negative.

    Sub fees (in the original UO/EQ/SWG period) were set at $15/mo because bandwith and server maint fees and infrastructure costs were much, much higher back then. A couple devs have stated in various articles that those costs are about 10% now of what they were back then, and yet, the sub fee is the same.

     

    I just don't understand it: if companies are willing to and can afford to put games out F2P and eat all the overhead for 80-90% of the average F2P MMO playerbase that pays nothing, why the resistence to lower a sub fee from $15/mo?

     

    I think a lower sub fee instead of all this F2P/cash shop nonsense could work for many games...

    If you cant afford 15 dollars dont be playing video games.

    I don't disagree with you, and I play P2P titles exclusively, but my point is who says $15/mo has to be "the number".

    For several "mostly" AAA titles, with "limited innovation and creativity", a lower price point on the sub fee might have encouraged a few more people to stay around longer. Without as manycomparisons to other "better" games charging $15/mo. "Well this game is not quite as good as ____, but at least the sub fee is $10 instead of $15."

     

  • HeavyTrafficHeavyTraffic Member Posts: 54

    Originally posted by DarkDemon69

    Originally posted by Burntvet

    Leaving aside the shortcomings I believe the game has (and I have decided against playing at launch) who says that a monthly sub fee must be $15/EU14/BPS10 automatically?

    I think this game (and some of the others released these last few years) would be better offering a sub fee closer to $10. It would probably reduce the comparisons to other games charging $15/mo and make the pricepoint a positive instead of a negative.

    Sub fees (in the original UO/EQ/SWG period) were set at $15/mo because bandwith and server maint fees and infrastructure costs were much, much higher back then. A couple devs have stated in various articles that those costs are about 10% now of what they were back then, and yet, the sub fee is the same.

     

    I just don't understand it: if companies are willing to and can afford to put games out F2P and eat all the overhead for 80-90% of the average F2P MMO playerbase that pays nothing, why the resistence to lower a sub fee from $15/mo?

     

    I think a lower sub fee instead of all this F2P/cash shop nonsense could work for many games...

    If you cant afford 15 dollars dont be playing video games.

    You missed his entire point, I'm afraid.  When you can pay $15/month for Wow which is well established and popular, then you invite a direct comparison to WoW when you charge the same price as they do. 

     

    If TSW was $9.99/month people would look at it more as, "well, it's only $10 so why not?"  Not every online game just automatically deserves a $15/month price tag.

     

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