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  • bookworm438bookworm438 Member Posts: 647

    Originally posted by Goreson

    Originally posted by EagleDelta2

    ...  A stress test is specifically to allow as many users as possible on at once to see how much the servers can handle and slowly adjust accordingly.  Stress Test =/= Demo.  Stress Test = Testing so they can release a better game at launch.

    Errr, sorry but this is exactly what AN doesn't do!

    They are reducing the people allowed to log in to just folfs who have the game pre-purchased.

    I was bored, so I tried loggin in with my GW2 login details (that worked perfectly fine for the BWE) and it comes back saying there either is no event or my account is not authorized for access.

    Please not that my GW2 registration key was NOT a pre-purchase key but instead a beta key that I won thru a raffle on a website.

    So there will probably be a bunch of player less in there compared to the BWE simply due to this.

    Further: AN picket a perfect day and time of day when the number of people that could actually log in is very limited due to school/work.

    So yeah, there will be pre-purchaser say in the PDT that would love to log in but due to having to be at work until 5pm and then heading home won't make it while the server is up...

    Yes, it has been said that this might be a test with a focus on Europe... still, rather odd...

    And anyway, if AN really wanted to do a stress test, why not do what other companies over the years have done: free access for everybody who wants to... because wouldn't a stress test where you have expected population +20% make a bit more sense than a "stress test" with population of 50 - 75% of the pre-purchasers?

    Or are you telling me that unless one has pre-purchased GW2 one won't be able to play it... ever?

    1) If you did not pre-purchase, then the key you got for the BWE only worked for then. 

    2) There's no reason why they couldn't have sent out stress test invites to more people that signed up back in february for the beta events that didn't prepurchase the game.

    3) I'm pretty sure this stress test targetted europe more since there were some problems coming from over there. And it's not like the US won't be able to play at all. It may be a bit harder for the the west coast, but the rest of the country should still be able to play (assuming most people get out at about 4 or 5).

    4) They still want to have control of the servers at this point. As has been stating many times, people don't see betas or even STRESS TESTs as those anymore. They seem them as demos. If they let any average joe and their cat into the stress test, people would b***h to no end and say GW2 sucks because they experienced lag or some problems. People are already doing that.

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    That's horrible... We have another Warhammer or RIFT on our hands a complete unoptimized mess. 

    I really hope they fix these optimization issues before launch.

    My rig can play BF3 and Witcher 2 on damn near max settings at 60 fps ill be damned if a mmo that looks like GW2 will run at sub 20fps during world vs world.

    Playing: Nothing

    Looking forward to: Nothing 


  • bookworm438bookworm438 Member Posts: 647

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    One thing that has been noticed is that those running AMD CPUs have been having more problems. I think once they move the load from the CPU to the GPU, you'll have no problem. I have an intel i5 and I have absolutely no problem.

     

    To s4nder: IF you would have read the current known issues, you would have seen that the game is unoptimized and for the most part is CPU bound. As a result, changing the graphics settings will not have much of an effect. Plus it seems like the newer chips have more problems than the older ones. 

  • indigo203indigo203 Member Posts: 4

    You're complaining about a stress test now?? Do you understand the purpose of a stress test??

  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709

    Originally posted by Replicah

    Hey all,

    I really looked forward to play the stress test today, well it gave me alot of "stress" . The whole world is too crowded, and the lagg-issues are enormous. Even if I put everything on very low/off and also in my Catalyst Control Center everything on off, i still get to manage an fps of 10. And when I'm in a space which isn't very crowded it runs fine.

     

    What are your experiences with this?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Greetings,

    Leon Muizer

    Apart from having to repeat the same stage of one of the events a few times before it moved on, for a stress test it was fine.

    Hardly any lag, mob spawns were fine even though there were a lot of players running round.

    Not bad at all.

    A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    Originally posted by bookworm438

    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    One thing that has been noticed is that those running AMD CPUs have been having more problems. I think once they move the load from the CPU to the GPU, you'll have no problem. I have an intel i5 and I have absolutely no problem.

     

    To s4nder: IF you would have read the current known issues, you would have seen that the game is unoptimized and for the most part is CPU bound. As a result, changing the graphics settings will not have much of an effect. Plus it seems like the newer chips have more problems than the older ones. 

    You really do get what you pay for when you purchase an AMD product -- processor or video card.  I got my garbage 5870s out of my system last Christmas, so now I've just gotta get my hands on an Intel processor and supported MB.

    Their products have decent specs, but optimization has been piss poor for awhile now.  

  • aegolinaegolin Member UncommonPosts: 17

    Got an 4,7ghz oc I5 and 7950, the game runs around 40fps in dense areas (some 30 fps dips) and well above 50 in sparse populated zones. Seems quite good to me given the 40% use of the GPU my system reports. Maybe they still got the CPU bond to fix cause theres a hell of difference when playing at 3,6ghz stock speed. (maxed settings)

  • bookworm438bookworm438 Member Posts: 647

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by bookworm438


    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    One thing that has been noticed is that those running AMD CPUs have been having more problems. I think once they move the load from the CPU to the GPU, you'll have no problem. I have an intel i5 and I have absolutely no problem.

     

    To s4nder: IF you would have read the current known issues, you would have seen that the game is unoptimized and for the most part is CPU bound. As a result, changing the graphics settings will not have much of an effect. Plus it seems like the newer chips have more problems than the older ones. 

    You really do get what you pay for when you purchase an AMD product -- processor or video card.  I got my garbage 5870s out of my system last Christmas, so now I've just gotta get my hands on an Intel processor and supported MB.

    Their products have decent specs, but optimization has been piss poor for awhile now.  

    I would expect that you'll have no problem when the game is actually optimized, but for the most part I noticed that those who seem to have the most problems are those running AMD CPUs and new Intel CPUs (i7s). As I said, I'm on an i5 and have absolutely no problems. No lag, ~60fps. The only time the fps dips a bit is when there's hundreds of people in the area and each are using very flashy attacks along with trebuchet blasts going off. And obviously I'm not the only one who have absolutely no problems.

  • TerrorizorTerrorizor Member Posts: 326

    Originally posted by bookworm438

    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by bookworm438


    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    One thing that has been noticed is that those running AMD CPUs have been having more problems. I think once they move the load from the CPU to the GPU, you'll have no problem. I have an intel i5 and I have absolutely no problem.

     

    To s4nder: IF you would have read the current known issues, you would have seen that the game is unoptimized and for the most part is CPU bound. As a result, changing the graphics settings will not have much of an effect. Plus it seems like the newer chips have more problems than the older ones. 

    You really do get what you pay for when you purchase an AMD product -- processor or video card.  I got my garbage 5870s out of my system last Christmas, so now I've just gotta get my hands on an Intel processor and supported MB.

    Their products have decent specs, but optimization has been piss poor for awhile now.  

    I would expect that you'll have no problem when the game is actually optimized, but for the most part I noticed that those who seem to have the most problems are those running AMD CPUs and new Intel CPUs (i7s). As I said, I'm on an i5 and have absolutely no problems. No lag, ~60fps. The only time the fps dips a bit is when there's hundreds of people in the area and each are using very flashy attacks along with trebuchet blasts going off. And obviously I'm not the only one who have absolutely no problems.

    I really don't know, but I wonder if the problems with the i7's have anything to do with hyperthreading. Wouldn't think so, but ...

  • ZzadZzad Member UncommonPosts: 1,401

    I´ve noticed a huge improvement from Beta too.

    Game is still not fully optimized yet but kudos to ArenaNet for such an ejoyable Stress Test!!

    Shame is too short :/

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    No problems for me OP! Sorry you are having issues. Perhaps an upgrade is due or just wait for the graphics to be optimized. ;)

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • VaultFairyVaultFairy Member UncommonPosts: 566

    Originally posted by kevjards

    logged in for 15 mins,but could'nt be bothered playing.dont know why,just one of those days i suppose,no lag..got in first time no prbs,gameplay very fluid.

    You are not the only one.. I just logged in and thought "meh". Don't know what's wrong with ME!!

  • DerpybirdDerpybird Member Posts: 991

    No lag on this end.

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • bookworm438bookworm438 Member Posts: 647

    Originally posted by Terrorizor

    Originally posted by bookworm438


    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by bookworm438


    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by s4nder

    For all the people who claim the game runs "fine," install Fraps and give us the fps. For some people, 20 fps is "fine," for others like me, it's unplayable.

    The engine is very unoptimized to the point of chaos. A friend with i5 gets 60 fps, another with i7 gets 20 fps. Personally I won't touch the game again before it starts perfoming at an acceptable level for an mmo. Anyone should be able to hit 30+ fps on low settings which is currently problematic for the vast majority of players.

    I hit 40-50 when I'm in a smallish area around not too many NPCs but whenever I go out to an open field or a heavily wooded area, my FPS drops down to around 20.  It's usually 12-15 when I'm in Divinity's Reach or taking place in a Dynamic Event.

    Phenom X6 1090T

    One thing that has been noticed is that those running AMD CPUs have been having more problems. I think once they move the load from the CPU to the GPU, you'll have no problem. I have an intel i5 and I have absolutely no problem.

     

    To s4nder: IF you would have read the current known issues, you would have seen that the game is unoptimized and for the most part is CPU bound. As a result, changing the graphics settings will not have much of an effect. Plus it seems like the newer chips have more problems than the older ones. 

    You really do get what you pay for when you purchase an AMD product -- processor or video card.  I got my garbage 5870s out of my system last Christmas, so now I've just gotta get my hands on an Intel processor and supported MB.

    Their products have decent specs, but optimization has been piss poor for awhile now.  

    I would expect that you'll have no problem when the game is actually optimized, but for the most part I noticed that those who seem to have the most problems are those running AMD CPUs and new Intel CPUs (i7s). As I said, I'm on an i5 and have absolutely no problems. No lag, ~60fps. The only time the fps dips a bit is when there's hundreds of people in the area and each are using very flashy attacks along with trebuchet blasts going off. And obviously I'm not the only one who have absolutely no problems.

    I really don't know, but I wonder if the problems with the i7's have anything to do with hyperthreading. Wouldn't think so, but ...

    I have no idea. It could cause some problems, but I have no idea.

  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Before anyone comments on *ANY* fps issue they need to state at least the following at an absolute minimum.

     

    Processor model and speed

    Amount of system RAM

    Graphics Card

    Resolution they are playing at (And if it is windowed or full screen)

     

    It is also worth checking the nvidia control panel or catalyst control center to see if you are running any additional settings such as depth of field or anti aliasing and also adding those.

    If people do not do this then there is no point even posting, seriously.

     

  • snapfusionsnapfusion Member Posts: 954

    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    Originally posted by Replicah

    Hey all,

    I really looked forward to play the stress test today, well it gave me alot of "stress" . The whole world is too crowded, and the lagg-issues are enormous. Even if I put everything on very low/off and also in my Catalyst Control Center everything on off, i still get to manage an fps of 10. And when I'm in a space which isn't very crowded it runs fine.

     

    What are your experiences with this?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Greetings,

    Leon Muizer

    I'm having no issues really,, tiny bit of lag but nothing major in the charr starting area

    Im pretty sure your idea of no issues and my idea of no issues are about 14 miles apart.  Anything less than 65 FPS in any part of a game is an issue.

    There are a large number of people that think 30FPS is just peachy.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Before anyone comments on *ANY* fps issue they need to state at least the following at an absolute minimum.

     

    Processor model and speed

    Amount of system RAM

    Graphics Card

    Resolution they are playing at (And if it is windowed or full screen)

     

    It is also worth checking the nvidia control panel or catalyst control center to see if you are running any additional settings such as depth of field or anti aliasing and also adding those.

    If people do not do this then there is no point even posting, seriously.

     

    DoF is a game related graphics option you can't set DoF inside control panel or anything like that.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928

    Originally posted by snapfusion

    Originally posted by Aerowyn


    Originally posted by Replicah

    Hey all,

    I really looked forward to play the stress test today, well it gave me alot of "stress" . The whole world is too crowded, and the lagg-issues are enormous. Even if I put everything on very low/off and also in my Catalyst Control Center everything on off, i still get to manage an fps of 10. And when I'm in a space which isn't very crowded it runs fine.

     

    What are your experiences with this?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Greetings,

    Leon Muizer

    I'm having no issues really,, tiny bit of lag but nothing major in the charr starting area

    Im pretty sure your idea of no issues and my idea of no issues are about 14 miles apart.  Anything less than 65 FPS in any part of a game is an issue.

    There are a large number of people that think 30FPS is just peachy.

    I'm running 2600k running at 4.7 Ghz and two 560 Ti's running SLI having no major issues on my end game ran smooth for me..also there is a SLI profile available if you use nvidia inspector you need to point it to read whatever directory you have the beta client downloaded to

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Before anyone comments on *ANY* fps issue they need to state at least the following at an absolute minimum.

     

    Processor model and speed

    Amount of system RAM

    Graphics Card

    Resolution they are playing at (And if it is windowed or full screen)

     

    It is also worth checking the nvidia control panel or catalyst control center to see if you are running any additional settings such as depth of field or anti aliasing and also adding those.

    If people do not do this then there is no point even posting, seriously.

     

    DoF is a game related graphics option you can't set DoF inside control panel or anything like that.

    Sorry for not being specific but the Nvidia Control Panel you can set Ambient Occlusion amongst other things. You can also set filters for Anti Aliasing in the Catalyst Control Center as well for example.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    I'm running 2600k running at 4.7 Ghz and two 560 Ti's running SLI having no major issues on my end game ran smooth for me

    I have a 3.2 x 6 Ghz AMD PHII and a single 480. Run it great until my net started to mess with me an hour ago, whole BWE 'cept friday night went with no lag whatsoever maxed out.

    But CPU power seems very important right now.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Originally posted by Aerowyn


    Originally posted by Zezda

    Before anyone comments on *ANY* fps issue they need to state at least the following at an absolute minimum.

     

    Processor model and speed

    Amount of system RAM

    Graphics Card

    Resolution they are playing at (And if it is windowed or full screen)

     

    It is also worth checking the nvidia control panel or catalyst control center to see if you are running any additional settings such as depth of field or anti aliasing and also adding those.

    If people do not do this then there is no point even posting, seriously.

     

    DoF is a game related graphics option you can't set DoF inside control panel or anything like that.

    Sorry for not being specific but the Nvidia Control Panel you can set Ambient Occlusion amongst other things. You can also set filters for Anti Aliasing in the Catalyst Control Center as well for example.

    true but none of those work ingame as of now so "shouldn't" really have much effect on anything at the moment.. but doesn't hurt to try

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Before anyone comments on *ANY* fps issue they need to state at least the following at an absolute minimum.

     

    Processor model and speed

    Amount of system RAM

    Graphics Card

    Resolution they are playing at (And if it is windowed or full screen)

     

    It is also worth checking the nvidia control panel or catalyst control center to see if you are running any additional settings such as depth of field or anti aliasing and also adding those.

    If people do not do this then there is no point even posting, seriously.

     

    DoF is a game related graphics option you can't set DoF inside control panel or anything like that.

    [EDIT]

     

    Ignore this part, my browser was playing silly buggers with me and I didn't think I had submitted the previous reply! Everything below the line though was what I was wanting to add :)

    Sorry, I meant Ambient Occlusion in the Nvidia panel :)

    There's also some AA filtering modes and such like in the CCC as well that most people don't often think about.

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    I'll add my bit in here as well regarding FPS.

    i7-950 - Stock speed (3.06Ghz)

    12GB 1600Mhz Ram

    HD7970 - 1150Mhz Core/1700Mhz Memory

    Playing at 5280x1050 with all in game settings set as high as possible. FXAA enabled. No additional settings or tweaks made withing the Catalyst Control Center that would impact performance.

    Outside while running out and about and doing DE's with less than 10 people on screen my FPS ranges from 40-50 FPS to as low as 30 FPS in more graphically challenging spots. In WvW my FPS will go as low as 20 FPS when involved in large scale fights.

    If i set my CPU to 4.2Ghz rather than stock (3.06Ghz) then the FPS tends to be a lot smoother and it tends to stick towards the upper end of 40/50FPS and I did not notice any significant dips as low as 30 or below while playing. 

    This stress test seems to be the exact same in terms of FPS and graphics as the previous BWE since we are afterall using the exact same build of the game. Changing down to a single monitor resolution of 1680x1050 did not increase my FPS by a significant amount in busy places suggesting that indeed the CPU is the main bottleneck for the game at this point in time.

    Given that the CPU is the bottleneck then the Intel platforms are likely to offer a significant advantage over AMD platforms. First gen i7 or i5 setups will likely place somewhere similar as higher end Phenom 2 parts (Not the 6 core phenoms, their ICT is slightly worse than the quad cores and GW2 will not utilize the extra cores). The Newer AMD parts are likely to be at best on par with the phenom 2 cores and anything SandyBridge or IvyBridge should have a decent lead over pretty much everything else. Until someone with access to all the platforms can test though the best we can do is offer conjecture based on platform performance in synthetic benchmarks and other titles which would back up my thought.

    If you are having FPS issues when you believe you should not be then first and foremost try lowering your resolution. If this helps it is generally an indication that you have a GPU issue. If lowering the resolution does not increase your FPS by a significant amount then you are likely experiencing a CPU based limitation. In that regard you could try overclock the CPU to lift the headroom a little. (Although if the client is passing off stuff to the CPU that the GPU would traditionally do then that would skew with things a little but I'm not sure why they would be doing that in the first place)

    Here are 3/4 screenshots I took at the last BWE that I took time out to upload [The actual JPG's on my PC where about 25-30MB each and measure 21100x4200 pixels!!! I was struggling to find places I could actually upload them lol - The high quality screenshot option must be doing some sort of fancy interpolation to make the images larger]

    http://photobucket.com/corgw2

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    My son and I are having the best time we have ever had playing an mmorpg together!

    Stress Test? Yes Thanks!!! 

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • ariboersmaariboersma Member Posts: 1,802

    Originally posted by Replicah

    Hey all,

    I really looked forward to play the stress test today, well it gave me alot of "stress" . The whole world is too crowded, and the lagg-issues are enormous. Even if I put everything on very low/off and also in my Catalyst Control Center everything on off, i still get to manage an fps of 10. And when I'm in a space which isn't very crowded it runs fine.

     

    What are your experiences with this?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Greetings,

    Leon Muizer

    I only found issues when I made a new char however I also realized I was uploading at a high rate AND had effin facebook open with a flashgame the whole time... even with all that I had no issues when i swapped to my old char and there were quite a few ppl in the zone but nothing like the madness of the starting area.

     

    edit: Figured I should add my comp is 4 yrs old and was made for AoC. 

    image

  • GroovyFlowerGroovyFlower Member Posts: 1,245

    No problems i run it on ultra and i even fraps most in WvWvW dunno why some claim have problems i did not however.

     

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