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  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,521

    playing hardcore when you know the servers are going to be unstable during a launch is pretty stupid

  • OpapanaxOpapanax Member Posts: 973

    Yeah, it's probably not in anyones best interest to run on Hardcore until we get some confirmation on stability with the server. This is including myself.

    To people out there running Hardocre. Do you guys have trusted people you are rolling with? I'd be interested in finding a a couple people to run thru with at some point.

    PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  • IrusIrus Member Posts: 774

    Originally posted by Draemos

    playing hardcore when you know the servers are going to be unstable during a launch is pretty stupid

    True HC players play right during a launch. :P

    Although I think I'll level some low level HC characters to feed my main.

  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    Originally posted by Painlezz

    Level 27 just died in Hardcore because servers lagged out completely...  I'm playing by myself... with myself.. only myself...  And I die from LAG...

    Took almost a full minute for me to actually fall over dead while nothing was around my character on my screen.

     

    Spells stopped casting.. spammed healing potions.. even attempted to exit the game quickly... no luck.

     

    THank you blizzard for wasting half my day with your epic failure of a launch.... 

    Single player rpg where you have to be online to play it is just silly. Does Blizzard honestly expect this move to stop people from posting the torrent with the crack? You are correct to be pissed, but people ride Blizzards nuts hard so they will keep shitting on players. Nothing ever changes.

  • IrusIrus Member Posts: 774

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Does Blizzard honestly expect this move to stop people from posting the torrent with the crack?

    Not that I believe it was Blizzard's main reason, but the current implementation is immune to what is normally understood as "posting torrent with crack", because the only way to pirate DIII right now is to emulate the whole thing from scratch, which is a whole other issu.

  • spikers14spikers14 Member UncommonPosts: 531

    Originally posted by Dahkot72

    Honestly , causing a single player experience to constantly depend on their servers is rather irritating , an initial key check fine whatever , but to continue to depend on their connection after launching when you simply want to play pure single player really is overboard ,

    Stupid actually.

     

     

    POE has online hardore mode too. You can't have it both ways. Anyway, I know people who have died in hardcore mode in offline games due to equipment failures, computer cfreezes etc. Stuff happens...offline and online. Simply not possible to avoid the fact that machines run all this stuff, and unfortunately, none of them are perfect.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Originally posted by spikers14

    Originally posted by Dahkot72

    Honestly , causing a single player experience to constantly depend on their servers is rather irritating , an initial key check fine whatever , but to continue to depend on their connection after launching when you simply want to play pure single player really is overboard ,

    Stupid actually.

     

     

    POE has online hardore mode too. You can't have it both ways. Anyway, I know people who have died in hardcore mode in offline games due to equipment failures, computer cfreezes etc. Stuff happens...offline and online. Simply not possible to avoid the fact that machines run all this stuff, and unfortunately, none of them are perfect.

    You make it sound like the D3 servers are experiencing a slight random disconnect, when this is not, in fact, the case.  My friends who play are telling me they have gotten seven "error 3003" codes while playing in the last 24 hours, each one taking 2+ hours to fix.  I am sorry, but having servers down for 14 of your first 24Hrs AND requiring online connections to play single player mode are two examples of unprecedented Epic Failure.  There are several, but these first two top the list.

    Read metacritic.  Users are buying the game, but when skeptics see how let down the fantatics have been about this game, they won't touch it.  Diablo 3, at once the biggest launch and the worst failure in electronic gaming since Ben Franklin's kite experiment some 200+ years ago.  Let's hope that, like Ben, electronic gaming devs learn from this disaster!

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  • PainlezzPainlezz Member UncommonPosts: 646

    - My computer doesn't fail.  2700 dollar gaming rig designed for only gaming and ONLY ever plays games.  I have never used an internet browser on this machine, no anti-virus... nothing.  It does one thing, plays video games.

    - The power cannot go out.  I have battery backup (about 10 min with everything on) which is more than enough time to log out IF something were to happen.  I strongly suggest any gamer invest in a $150-200 dollar backup battery system.  Power blinks, breakers pop, so many things can happen and I never have to worry about it.

    - Cat jump on keyboard?  I do have a cat, and he'll never jump on my keyboard... But lets say mouse were to die?  Nope, I have G9 which has LED display of battery life and I would never let it go red without plugging it in while on Hardcore. 

    - I've played enough Diablo2 hardcore to know the story.  I expected my first death to be an insta gib from some unknown enemy that I didn't know could 1 shot me somehow.  Thats how Diablo2 typically works, you get 1 shot.

     

    I probably shouldn't be playing Hardcore considering...  The servers are bad, there isn't any ladder or way to show off your hardcore-ness anyway.

     

    But, I just don't enjoy playing softcore.  It doesn't do it for me.  The risk of death in hardcore is what adds that extra joy that keeps me playing these games.

     

     

    P.S.  If anyone in NA wants to do Hardcore with me feel free to shoot me a message.  I don't know how well it will work with level differences and such but i'm sure we'll eventually both die and be at same place anyway!  ;)

  • spikers14spikers14 Member UncommonPosts: 531

    Originally posted by Painlezz

    - My computer doesn't fail.  

    Eventually everything fails...and to the OP. I feel bad for ya, I really do...but more so if this is the first online game you've ever played. If not, its a big game that had problems out of the gate. No online service has a 100% uptime guarantee, so that is part of the risk you are taking playing hardcore. If this bothers you, you should probably wait a day or two until things calm down a bit and Blizz gets it all straightened out. Better yet, maybe try a ticket if you want your toon back so badly (but that really doesnt sound so hardcore imo...lol).

    And every launch has fanatics...who cares? I care about the radical fringe about as much as I care about what's in a hot dog...either way, I'm not eating it :)

  • PainlezzPainlezz Member UncommonPosts: 646

    Blizzard will never recover a Hardcore character ever.  No a chance.  A nuclear bomb could land on the servers (and lets pretend they had backup servers somewhere) and they would not recover your character.

     

    I'm not asking them to.  I don't want them to.  I just want to play the game.  I want to die because the GAME killed me not the fail servers.

     

    As many others have said, playing Hardcore while servers are bad is... a bad idea.

     

     

  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Member UncommonPosts: 2,341

    Originally posted by expresso

    Originally posted by Tirinas


    Originally posted by jusomdude

    Lag is part of the stakes for hardcore. Don't like it don't play hardcore. Might be safer to wait a bit, until the zerg is over.

    No offence but that's just plain stupid. Hardcore does not mean you have to accept lag that shouldn't be there in the first place.

    Hardcore means you accept that if you die, it's permanent and nothing else.

    But who lagged was it Blizzard or the User? who is to blame? how would we know? 

    It's Blizzard's fault no matter what, because in their infinite wisdom, they decided to require you be online even for single-player games. So ya, pretty much doesn't matter if he had the worst internet connection in the world.

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  • kevjardskevjards Member UncommonPosts: 1,452

    i died because of lag as well..not on hardcore though,i,m a noob..but i,m doin a lot of rubber banding around areas as well atm.

  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,063

    I didn't make it home until 8 pm this evening and servers have been unavailable, has it really been this bad? I have to admit, I didn't partake in the WoW launch so I just don't know how bad that was.... this is my first "Blizzard" launch.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Originally posted by Cosmonaut79

    One benefit it could have of being online, are the characters saved server side? Meaning, am I able to play on my desktop at home and then use the same character on a laptop at my friend's house?

    The great thing about characters being stored Server side is a few have already been lost due to crashes lol. So yeah, server side character saves are a plus........

  • RollgunnerRollgunner Member UncommonPosts: 61

    Originally posted by jusomdude

    Lag is part of the stakes for hardcore. Don't like it don't play hardcore. Might be safer to wait a bit, until the zerg is over.

    So death due to circumstances beyond the player's conrol is a *feature* now ?

  • NightvergeNightverge Member Posts: 211

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 Member UncommonPosts: 2,770

    D3 requires internets? Great. How am I going to play it after the zombie apocolypse happens.

  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Member UncommonPosts: 2,341

    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

    So you don't allow offline characters to transfer to Online mode of any kind. If you want to play single-player online, instead you create an online game and give it a password so no one else can access it. There, problems solved, everyone has what they want. They spent like what, a decade going through two iterations of the game, and that idea never snuck somewhere in there?

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  • CorehavenCorehaven Member UncommonPosts: 1,533

    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

     

    Really now?  How about seperate the Single Player game from the Multiplayer one?   Totally seperate.  I dont see how that wouldnt work. 

  • NightvergeNightverge Member Posts: 211

    Originally posted by gaeanprayer

    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

    So you don't allow offline characters to transfer to Online mode of any kind. If you want to play single-player online, instead you create an online game and give it a password so no one else can access it. There, problems solved, everyone has what they want. They spent like what, a decade going through two iterations of the game, and that idea never snuck somewhere in there?

         You don't understand. They added that to Diablo 2. It doesn't work. They added dual item tags that were supposed to be untransferable to online play. Not only did it piss everyone off (most people do a lot of farming on their own to bring into the multiplayer) but it didn't stop the problem at all. You underestimate hackers.

         Give any offline at all and you can take that time in the offline mode to alter item tags, stats, looks, everything. You can fool the game into believing any item is legit if you have the freedom of offline to do it in.

         Blame the players who ruined it for everyone. I'd most certainly have online only in a heartbeat then the dissapointment that D2 turned into after hackers got to it.

         

  • NightvergeNightverge Member Posts: 211

    Originally posted by Corehaven

    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

     

    Really now?  How about seperate the Single Player game from the Multiplayer one?   Totally seperate.  I dont see how that wouldnt work. 

         Read as I said above. It was tried (to a certain degree) In Diablo 2 already. Basically you just couldn't transfer items from offline to online. Not only did it not stop hackers (who just hacked the offline items anyways to place the online tags on them to get them past the checks) but it pissed off everyone who played legally and did much of their farming for hell runs offline to do later with friends online. 

     

         So, to answer your question...Yes, really now.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

    Could you give some links. Being a part of the diablo 2 community I actually remember the online only not being a very favorable idea. Most seemed to want single player chars to be single player only and not allowed in multiplayer. Many different versions of this were suggested. Seperate clients like BF3, a single client with an offline mode and a multiplayer selection before going to char list, etc.

    The plus side to them going with online only is that it's going to ensure we get Diablo 3 server emulators just like we have for WoW, UO and other MMO's. This will allow the community to do some creative modding at least.

    The community wanted offline characters to be seperate from multiplayer and vice versa. The online only thing wasn't well recieved then and it isn't well recieved now lol.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    Originally posted by Nightverge

    Originally posted by Corehaven


    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

     

    Really now?  How about seperate the Single Player game from the Multiplayer one?   Totally seperate.  I dont see how that wouldnt work. 

         Read as I said above. It was tried (to a certain degree) In Diablo 2 already. Basically you just couldn't transfer items from offline to online. Not only did it not stop hackers (who just hacked the offline items anyways to place the online tags on them to get them past the checks) but it pissed off everyone who played legally and did much of their farming for hell runs offline to do later with friends online.

    You can allow people to play alone in multiplayer mode just as it's set up right now.

     

    Then you also allow the full single player experience to players without going online at all. (Minus the AH and all multiplayer features).

     

    Two game modes - Single Player and Multiplayer.

     

    It could ahve easily worked and the fact that you can't see that is a bit nuts.

  • CorehavenCorehaven Member UncommonPosts: 1,533

    Originally posted by Nightverge

    Originally posted by Corehaven


    Originally posted by Nightverge

         *sigh* I feel like I've explained this a thousand times. There can not be any offline single player. Online only was a specific request from the Diablo 2 community due to the complete and utter game ruining that was item hacking. The only way to completely stop Item hacking is to make the game online only. They even asked the D2 community if that's what they wanted and the results were overwhelmingly YES, ADD ONLINE ONLY!!!

          I'm sure its not the same people complaining. But still. Most of you aren't even aware of the true issue with offline Diablo. Especially when you consider there is going to be structured PvP and the auction houses. We absolutely hated Item hackers. It literally ruined loot hunting which was like 98% of the game.

         Why even play the game at all after you beat it sense you can just hack all of your armor to be a god?

         It was aweful and gravely impacted the community. So online only was added to D3. Not just for piracy reasons but because the community itself wanted the feature to preserve the integrity of the game. Any offline at all opens the door to hacking. In a game like this, it ruins everything.

     

    Really now?  How about seperate the Single Player game from the Multiplayer one?   Totally seperate.  I dont see how that wouldnt work. 

         Read as I said above. It was tried (to a certain degree) In Diablo 2 already. Basically you just couldn't transfer items from offline to online. Not only did it not stop hackers (who just hacked the offline items anyways to place the online tags on them to get them past the checks) but it pissed off everyone who played legally and did much of their farming for hell runs offline to do later with friends online. 

     

         So, to answer your question...Yes, really now.

     

    Yea I can see how that might annoy some people.  I wonder if thats more annoying or if not being able to play....at all....is more annoying.  Hmmmm.......

     

    And that was exactly what I was suggesting.  You can have a muliplayer toon or an offline toon.  Heck even make a single player online mode too where they can go ahead and not play with others but keep all their stuff and then everyone under the sun wins.  

     

    Have :   Offline Single Player (Warning, you will not be able to transfer any character or gear to Online play.  This is Offline only. ) 

    Online Single Player ( With this mode any character and all items can be used in multiplayer)

    Online Multi Player ( Play with your friends) 

     

    With all the explanations in the ( ) .   How does that not work? 

  • XiveilXiveil Member UncommonPosts: 12

    It does, and he's not seeing that.  The problem with D2 is that your online characters were STORED LOCALLY on your computer.  By NOT storing the online chracters on local machines, you CANNOT hack the character unless you hack Blizzards servers.

    And if they manage that, hacked gear is the least of anyones concerns.

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